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Undeletion request

Draft: The Croatan at ECU was deleted from Wiki but also from my sandbox. Can this please be reveresed so I may continue my work in the sandbox.

Happy Easter!

	Happy Easter!
	Happy Easter! L293D (☎ • ✎) 05:36, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

L293D, thank you for the note. Sorry for the late response. I had a wonderful, relaxing Easter. Hope you did as well. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:10, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please see

This essay. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 22:18, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Smallbones, sorry for the late response. Have been busy IRL of late and focusing on some more gnomish stuff on-wiki the past few weeks just to avoid stretching myself thin. I'll take a look at it in the next few days. Something that I think we need to do more about in general (not a comment on the essay) is explain the concept of native advertising to people. I've begun to WikiLink to it in AfDs, and I see that it is starting to catch on, but I would prefer more people be aware of it. Half the battle in dealing with the issue of spam on Wikipedia is educating the editor base of what current marketing techniques are: with native advertising being one of the preferred methods for many companies (if not the preferred method).

In that regard, I think this essay is very important: I know it goes beyond native advertising, but that's really the thing we are most up against, especially in understanding how it interacts with NPOV principles (I think you can guess my views on it). Anyway, I'll look at it soonish. Talk page stalkers might also have thoughts on both the essay and the problem in general. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:06, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Question

How about restoring the page to Draft:Jane Doe minus the origional name and full birthdate? That would facilitate proper discussion while protecting the potentially real person. Legacypac (talk) 03:16, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Legacypac, I'm not an oversighter, so I can't. That might be a way to do it (and how I would have requested it if I were the deleting admin), but at the time, I just sent the undelete link in. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:52, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's hard to have a discussion blind obviously. Thanks Legacypac (talk) 04:06, 4 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:أشواق الجبوري

Hello Tony, see here, also be aware about this user, she is a sockmaster in ar.wiki --Alaa :)..! 14:28, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Alaa. I'll keep an eye on the contribs. If she has other socks that are active on en.wiki, let me know and I'll look at them. TonyBallioni (talk) 16:59, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User rename thanks :)

Thanks for renaming my account for me :) I feel bad though, you had to take the time to move a whole lot of long-forgotten subpages I'd totally forgotten about (& that I've now speedied!). Sorry about that. --- PageantUpdater (talk) 08:06, 9 April 2018 (UTC) ... annnd, that's how I figured out it doesn't automatically change the signature. So thanks indirectly & unintentionally for that too! ... Thanks, CJ [a Kiwi] in Oz 10:00, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Your signature should contain a link to your userpage, talk, etc... WP:SIGLINK: "Signatures must include at least one direct internal link to your user page, user talk page, or contributions page; this allows other editors easy access to your talk page and contributions log. The lack of such a link is widely viewed as obstructive." — regards, Revi 10:09, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, @-revi:, I realised as soon as I published the changes that I'd missed that when I reworked the sig, have fixed it now ... Thanks, CJ [a Kiwi] in Oz 10:13, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Great. Last PS (also known as "Too much information"): Without link to your userpage/user talk, Ping do not work. — regards, Revi 10:14, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@CJinoz: not a problem :) Don’t worry about the subpages: the software does the moves automatically once the rename has been accepted. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:38, 9 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment needing eyes

If any talk page stalkers who may be interested in early modern history (or are willing to take a look at an article and the sourcing) would mind commenting at Talk:Papal conclave, 1769/GA2, it would be appreciated. It is only an individual reassessment, not a community one, but as I'm one of the few people who is currently working on the conclaves, I'd like to have feedback from others as well. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:40, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppet investigation

I gathered some diffs for the sockpuppet investigation that I think establish a behavioral pattern. More evidence can be provided.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 18:56, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I commented at the SPI. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:46, 10 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Need advice

I am not looking for any blocks, but I wanted to discuss this comment by Johnpacklambert. I see him around AFD regularly so you can imagine my surprise when I read this. Although he rephrased his !vote, it was not a "oops, made a typo" sort of thing, but rather a "opps, cannot let anyone see that". A part of me wants to learn where this came from, but I do not want to appear like I am "escalating" the situation. Should I just ignore it instead and move on?TheGracefulSlick (talk) 13:32, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

TheGracefulSlick, I gave a discretionary sanctions awareness alert and left a note. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:55, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Like I said, after working with JPL for awhile, I was suprised that came from him and worried that is how he feels about me and others. I am glad I came to you about it.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 14:22, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Palestinians especially Hamas want to expell Jews

The Palestinians have yet to acknowledge the right of Israel to exist. Helen Thomas called for expulsion of the Jews and sending them back to Poland. This despite the fact most Israelis trace their recent lineage to Arab countries, at least a lot more than to Poland. How else can we see the Poland call then an allusion to the gas chambers. It is an entirely fair comment and no Palestinian has yet demonstrated a sincere desire to accept Israel's right to exist.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:25, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Johnpacklambert: A contested geopolitical situation where one side doesn't recognize the right of the other to exist is not the same thing as want[ing] to send the Jews back to the gas chambers. I'm not familiar with Helen Thomas's comments, but I don't see them as particularly relevant to an AfD about someone who is recently deceased as she's been dead for almost 5 years (and she also denied your reading of them anyway). One can be anti-semitic without advocating for genocide.

Anyway, the AfD is about whether or not someone who died 6 days ago is notable. I don't have an opinion on that question. I do, however, think it is inappropriate for you to leave such a broad comment on a contentious AfD where it could easily be read as you stating that you think the authors of that article support mass genocide of the Jewish people. Even if you are only referencing what you think that some Palestinians believe, I hope you realize the chilling effect such rhetoric could have at an AfD conversation. Like I said, I'm glad you changed it afterwards, but I was leaving a note because it really shouldn't happen again. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:50, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I will admit my statement was probably an overreaction, which is why I removed it. However I grow tired on the one-sided attacks on the actions of Jews in the middle-east, their constatnly being villified in the media, and the fact that those who publish such hate filled rhetoric are never called into question for the real world consequences they create for Jews living in such countries as France.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:56, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate that those are your views, and I am grateful that you removed the comment. I also think anti-semitism is a cancer, and was dealing with an anti-semitic SPA here yesterday behind the scenes. I do request, however, that you not repeat accusations like that on Wikipedia without proof. We wouldn't accept them in article space unless they are sourced, and in project space, they can be read as a personal attack. From your statement above, you seem to recognize that it was a mistake, so as far as I'm concerned, there's nothing really more to talk about and we can all move on :) TonyBallioni (talk) 16:03, 12 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Curation

There is something seriously wrong within the WMF. See Horn;'s latest at m:Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2018-2019/Draft#Tools. It's bordering on the farcical. Is there anything you can do? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:16, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]