Talk:Winchester Model 1200

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April 24, 2010	Good article nominee	Listed

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comments

Okay, good work so far. Some issues (beyond grammar etc.)

first issue

Middle two sections sound very much like a "how to" manual, and should sound more like "this is what the weapon is, this is its difference from previous weapons, these are its uses, and these are its controversies." You might include a small section on maintenance and loading if it relates to these other issues. For example, if this model is simpler to maintain, or simpler to load, than the venerable predecessor...

second issue

needs proper citations. I've done one, sort of, toward the end. You need authors, publications, etc., plus page numbers. If you want to use the named reference template, let me know. See WP:Cite for more instructions on how to cite.

third issue

What is Olive drab? Is this a para-military group, a group of re-enactors, a supply? What makes them reliable?

Make sense? Auntieruth55 (talk) 23:07, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Winchester 1200/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: S Masters (talk) 03:36, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for criteria)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Comments:

"The major parts of the shotgun which must be destroyed are the receiver and magazine group, the barrel assembly and bayonet assembly, the breech bolt group and the trigger guard group." - I know that the different groups have specific meaning, however, given that so many of them are not working pages, I suggest you just wikify magazine, barrel, bayonet, etc. instead of magazine group, etc.
There are issues with the references and citation sections. There are retrieved dates missing; 2, 7 and 9, and the citation section are not in the right format. Please refer to WP:REF to see how they should be presented.

I will put this article On Hold for up to seven days. Let's try and see if we can resolve these issues.

Thanks for the speedy review of my article. I will try to fix those couple things as soon as possible, but I this week is rather busy for me because finals are right around the corner. Hopefully I can have it finished by the end of the week. I'll send you a message when I fix those things for you to review.Mzwhiz21 (talk) 14:38, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, please let me know when all of the improvements have been completed. Good luck with your exams. -- S Masters (talk) 10:50, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Final summary: Thank you for all your work in making this a better article. I am confident that it now meets all the requirements for a Good Article, and can be passed. Well done! -- S Masters (talk) 07:39, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification

This phrase is used verbatim twice in the article: "The Model 1200 is a takedown type of shotgun; meaning that it can be taken apart for easy storage and transportation." Just wondering if its necessary. Also, the term extremities is used once when discussing cleaning the weapon - just checking that this is the right term. Great article! Ragfin (talk) 14:03, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not only is it not necessary, it's not even true. While the Winchester 1887 and 12 were takedown models, the 1200 series lacks this ability. I have removed this section from the article.75.141.253.81 (talk) 17:06, 21 July 2016 (UTC)Tim[reply]

Name

Hi, Shoulden't the page title be Winchester Model 1200, as with Winchester Model 1897, Winchester Model 1912 and most of the others? --Amendola90 (talk) 10:28, 1 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

slanted toward military model

The article reads like it was adapted from a field manual for the military version. Most versions in circulation in the US are the civilian version for hunting and clay target shooting, some home defense use of the extended magazine version, and police use. It was intended to replace the Model 12, which also was used (in declining order of numbers) by hunters, target shooters, police and military. Naaman Brown (talk) 14:03, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

companion to the 1400

The Winchester Model 1200 pump action shotgun was developed in parallel with the Winchester Model 1400 semi-auto shotgun; (Numrich Gun Parts Corp. Firearms Parts Catalog lists a number of parts in common between the two models.) Naaman Brown (talk) 14:16, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Removed "destruction to prevent capture" info

Had nothing to do with M1200's history, and is nothing more than standard military boilerplate to be found in technical manuals for any piece of equipment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.152.84.99 (talk) 05:45, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wars

Only two wars are listed: Vietnam and Darfur. Surely a weapon that's so widespread and in US Army inventories as late as the 2000s was used in other wars the US was involved in? Hairy Dude (talk) 01:09, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]