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Name Page

My name is Bencino Carmine, I had a wikepedia page created by whoever under the name Benny Ciaramello. I contracted folks and thankfully they moved the title to my correct name. However whenever you type my name in google, it will still show a “Benny Ciaramello” wimkepdia page and once you click on it, of course it’s updated. But it says “redirected from Benny Ciaramello” can someone please fix this. There shouldn’t be any “Benny Ciaramello” link to wikepedia at all. Or link to that specific pages I have no idea how to fix this and anyone’s help would be highly appreciated. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:387:8:F:0:0:0:82 (talk) 22:13, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello Bencino and welcome to the Teahouse. It takes time for Google to index pages, so it should start showing up correctly in the near future(I don't know exactly how long). 331dot (talk) 22:14, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

What's the story with the two names here? "Bencino Carmine" returns 680 Google results, versus 23,500 for "Benny Ciaramello". Usually, we go with the most commonly used name in the sources. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:24, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

IMDB offers yet another version of his name, "Benjamin Ciaramello". Maproom (talk) 08:17, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Presumably the person has decided to change his name. Both (all three) names need to be included, but I am not sure which one should be the article title. I'm not even sure the article should be kept at all - he doesn't really look like a notable actor. --bonadea contributions talk 09:32, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

How do add a picture?

I was trying to add a picture in a talk page for an article but I didn't know how. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erfson (talk • contribs) 22:11, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Erfson, welcome to our Teahouse. Before answering in further detail, could you just clarify whether you have already identified an image on Wikimedia Commons that you want to insert (which won't be a problem for you to add), is it an image you created and therefore own the copyright to, or is it an image you've found on the internet somewhere (which probably hasn't been released with a licence we can accept). Perhaps you could paste in a url to the image, and then we can guide you further? (I note you have recently asked elsewhere about using images from this website. As I see nothing there that releases any of those images under any licence we can accept, you should definitely not attempt to copy and upload these as they will very swiftly be deleted. I hope this helps, regards Nick Moyes (talk) 22:47, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Could I also recreate the diagram in a program such as notsbility and screenshot it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erfson (talk • contribs) 23:00, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

@Erfson: I don't fully understand your question.Is 'notsbility' a graphics package? I would give a cautious 'yes', but you would need to ensure you were still not breaching anyone's copyright. i.e. could you change the appearance of some diagram sufficiently for it to be your own work, rather than an obvious copy? If you can, then that might be fine. I have created maps or diagrams in PowerPoint and then saved a screenshot which I've then uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, from where it's easy to find the 'Use this file' link and copy and insert it into an article. I hope this is sufficient to assist you. In future, do please remember to sign every post on any talk page by simply typing four tildes at the end,like this: ~~~~ That will add your username and a timestamp. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:11, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Well I'm not an wholly experienced editor, My English might be broken and I hope my Message would be helpful to the others even those who don't know about uploading media contents, Hey @Erfson: At the time I used to upload 4 pictures on Wikipedia but got removed due to copyvios see there,I uploaded 3 pics but removed, even I put descriptions and details about owner of the pictures, If you want to add pictures, still needed to be careful about uploading media contents because some images could be copyrighted and not allowed by original author. For example, the article Alexa Bliss has title picture but with every detail that where, when, why, who and how captured. As link was provided here of maker.pro, I visited and checked that these pictures are owned/uploaded by Chetan Kumar, I don't know if you're talking about maker.pro website from where you want pictures to uploaded here. If yes then I hope that my message would be helpful to you and other editors. I try to help somebody if I see 1% trouble or problem, i.e why I wrote this message to help somebody Thank You. CK (talk) 22:00, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Use of photos found online

Hi all, I'm still new here, with just two articles published, and haven't fully got my head round where to search about the editing process and so on, so I thought I'd ask this here: I published the article on the architect Giovanni Bernasconi, and found some pictures of a building he designed here: http://photoprogulki.narod.ru/spb_por1.htm Can we just take these pictures from that website, or is there some approved procedure for such things? Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 14:50, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Benchik Pelmenchik - No, you cannot use them, as that web-page clearly states that it is copyright at the bottom of the page. Most publications no longer have to claim copyright, so we have to assume that they are copyright. unless they have a clear copyleft or other copyright free licence. This covers websites, books, magazines or any other areas of "publication" - Arjayay (talk) 14:55, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Benchik Pelmenchik: Most photographs you will find on the web are copyrighted and nonfree. Wikipedia does sometimes allow nonfree images to be used, but only under a restricted set of conditions that you can find at the nonfree content criteria. If these buildings are still standing (or, since the article is about the architect rather than the building, if any building he designed is still standing), nonfree images would fail criterion 1, since they would be replaceable by free content by someone taking a photo of the building and releasing it under a free license. You could take a look at Wikimedia Commons to see if someone already has done that, and if not, maybe you could try finding an editor who lives nearby to see if they'd be willing to do so. You can also ask the copyright holder of those images if they would be willing to release them under a free license such as CC-BY-SA, but they are of course free to refuse. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 14:58, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Wow, so quick! Many thanks, guys! I suspected it would be like that. I'll send a friend to go take some pics. :) Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 15:04, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

@Benchik Pelmenchik: Be aware that if you do send a friend to take the pictures, the copyright of those images will then reside with him/her. So the photographer would need to be the person who uploads them to Wikimedia Commons, not you. There'll be no problem them doing that, but it does make an extra task for them. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 15:43, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Ah now, looks like I'll have to purchase the copyright, with a few glasses of beer. ;) Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 17:28, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

It is worth bearing in mind that in some countries the copyright in photos of a building belongs to the owner of the copyright in the building itself, rather than to the photographer, see WP:Public domain#Photographs of buildings. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:23, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Malformed pages

Hi, is there are an easy way to fix article pages that have been malformed due to overlong horizontal tables such as Audi R8. Also does AWB work on ipad safari or ipad chrome? thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 15:29, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Atlantic306 - I don't see any issues with Audi R8 on my PC, do you mean the tables overlap/are malformed on mobile? Unfortunately AWB doesn't work on anything but Windows. You could try JWB, I've not used it in a mobile browser, but it's worth a try! Richard⁰⁶¹² 19:13, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

• Hi, thanks for your answer, on my ipad the page only displays at 80% due to a long horizontal table halfway down that extends into the extra 20%, its the same in portrait mode, am using desktop version, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 20:28, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I'll have a look on an iPad later today and see what can be done. Richard⁰⁶¹² 13:17, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Leaving messages on blocked users

Is there some spoken or unspoken guideline/rule/expectation regarding leaving messages on blocked users talk pages? Or am I free to leave them messages regardless? The Verified Cactus 100% 16:43, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello VerifiedCactus and welcome back to the Teahouse.

Blocked users may become unblocked. Leaving messages on the talk pages of a blocked user is allowed. While they may not be able to edit generally, they should still get notifications and - as many blocked users still have talk page access - may respond to you. (Talk page access is primarily to be used for unblock requests - abuse of the privilege may lead to loss of access). If a talk page has been blanked, however, that's usually a signal that there's no point leaving a message there. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:39, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Understood, thank you. The Verified Cactus 100% 02:10, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Adding to the answer, VerifiedCactus, blocked editors are not free to engage in general discussions on their talk page while they are blocked. Their talk page is for understanding why they were blocked and requesting to be unblocked. Take a look at the duration of the block. If it is a 24 block, there is nothing wrong with saying, "After your block expires, can we discuss improving article X based on source Y?" If it is an indefinite block, then leave the editor alone. Their only options are exit from Wikipedia, or formulating a successful unblock request. Anything distracting is not helpful and may be perceived as disruptive by administrators. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:30, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

My bad, I'll keep that in mind next time. The Verified Cactus 100% 02:46, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

How do I 'lock' editing on a page?

I would like to prevent vandals from messing with a page, how do I prevent them from being able to edit it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by A 10 fireplane (talk • contribs) 18:50, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, A 10 fireplane, and welcome to the Teahouse! Pages are not locked per-emtpively. They are protected upon request if there is evidence that high levels of vandalism has already occurred. You can read all about it here: Wikipedia:Protection policy. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:53, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Some more info here: Pages can only be directly protected by administrators. If you think that a page needs to be protected, you can request this at WP:RFPP. More detailed information is covered in the link that Finnusertop provided. :)--SkyGazer 512 ^{What will you say? / What did I do?} 20:30, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

@SkyGazer 512: @Finnusertop: ok awesome, thank y'all for the help/information :) A 10 fireplane (talk) 20:11, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Bloody Margaret entry

i have been criticised for not entering information correctly and yet do not know how to amend this. I tried to add a page for the cocktail "Bloody Margaret - aka Red Snapper" - a Bloody Mary made with Gin and not Vodka, but was told I had not done things sufficiently and yet was given no further advice or information how to "fix" things - I have autism , I would like to try to get this corrected, please, can someone assist? Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamsirius (talk • contribs) 00:30, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Adamsirius, Welcome to Teahouse and thank you for the question above. I believe you are referring to the the draft article, Draft:Bloody Margaret, that you had created and has been declined. Do note that the editor who declined you article did leave a message on the page, and if you find the explanation on the "grey box' within the "Salmon colour" box of the draft page. Since the rejection, another editor has added 3 sources. The reasons for the rejection was the draft article content was not provide independent, reliable source to gauge the notability is met under the guidelines of Wikipedia. To learn more, please visit Wikipedia:Your first article. Thank you for your contribution and do come back if you have any other questions. Cheers! CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 00:57, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Sorry but this still makes no sense to me whatsoever, being something of a Luddite. Can someone help perhaps please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamsirius (talk • contribs) 00:56, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

THANKS TO WHOEVER HELPED WITH THIS !! APPRECIATED :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamsirius (talk • contribs) 18:07, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

"Age" vs. "aged" in infobox

Does Wikipedia have a style guideline to govern whether to use "age" or "aged" in an infobox after a person's date of death? As an example: "Died August 27, 1981 (age 62)" or "Died August 27, 1981 (aged 62)"? I tried using my browser's search tool on the Manual of Style, but it did not find "aged" as a word unto itself (only at the ends of other words, such as "discouraged".) Eddie Blick (talk) 00:52, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Teblick, Welcome to Teahouse! {{Death year and age}} would produce (aged) which is commonly found in infobox. Do drop by if you have any other questions. Cheer! CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 01:14, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you,CASSIOPEIA ! I appreciate that clarification. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:26, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Teblick You are welcome and drop by anytime if you need any help. Cheers! CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 21:00, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Translation of a Chinese news article title

Hi! Could anyone help me out with an accurate translation of this Chinese news article title (which I want to use as trans-title=). I feel that Google Translate's version is kind of innacurate. Thanks! Robertgombos (talk) 06:52, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Robertgombos Welcome to Teahouse. Well, according to my friend from Hong Kong, it means "Besides SEO, you can also use these 10 foreign directory websites to help you browse". If anyone could help to interpret a better version, pls jump in. Cheers!. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 09:11, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! ;) Robertgombos (talk) 09:22, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

How To Use Wikiscript

How do I use Wikiscript? What are the commands I can use? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samwikiuel (talk • contribs) 11:21, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Samwikiuel

Firstly, please sign all posts on talk pages with 4 tildes ( ~~~~ ) which will add your signature and a timestamp

As for your question - there are lots of commands - I suggest you start with Help:Wikitext, although there is also a useful summary at Help:Cheatsheet - if these raise further questions, please come back here and ask - Arjayay (talk) 11:26, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

A geographical search tool for Wikipedia

Hi all, I love Wikipedia and use it daily, thank you all for your devoted work. I hope this is the right place for asking this. If not please refer me to the right one.

I have created a site (a type of search engine) that can help search geographical information and places from Wikipedia. It basically lets users choose an area and a subject and get results on a map. Like "art deco architecture" in New York.

I would like to find a way to let Wikipedia users know about it. Is there a way I can do that through Wikipedia?

If you wish to see for yourself (it works best on a computer but mobile works too):

Examples: copernix.io/about

Search page: copernix.io

Omryv (talk) 12:26, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Omryv - this is a very cool app you created - thanks for creating and sharing. There are some interesting applications. Is there a way to filter the results so only lists are displayed, as one option? In other words, exclude any results that doesn't have the word list in it. Items like State Capitals, Presidential birthplaces/libraries, NFL Stadiums, locations of mass shootings, etc. - are all items that are interesting to see visualized on maps. Three quick fixes I'd recommend - 1) add a reset button, which would reset the searches and take users back to the start page - it wasn't easy to change the search once I did the first one or clicked on an example, 2) change the second sentence on https://copernix.io/about/ to "Ever been to a place which you didn't know anything about?" and 3) don't have the "To see places from Wikipedia..." prompt keep popping up - it may be better and less distracting to have it in a fixed location on the side, or perhaps allow users to click a checkbox to suppress its recurrence? I think posting this here was the right way to promote it - and once it's fine tuned people will may save the URL and maybe even share it on social media. Have you seen these cool apps also? wiki.polyfra.me, wikiverse.io/ and listen.hatnote.com/? TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:00, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

You might also want to put it on your user page, and give some background on its genesis. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:02, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

How do I become an administrator?

Hello. I am Fft47hg and I was wondering how a user can become an administrator. When I become an extended confirmed user, I want to become one but there seems to be no such place to do so.Fft47hg (talk) 13:33, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

@Fft47hg:, welcome to the Teahouse. In order to become an administrator, a user has to place a request for adminship - there are no formal requirements for that, but in practice, you will have to have quite a lot of experience of editing Wikipedia. You must show that you have a thorough knowledge of the important policies, and the way to show it is by making constructive edits, writing article content, and participating in discussions. So please don't focus on becoming an admin for a while. Becoming extended confirmed means that you can do almost all the necessary tasks here anyway. --bonadea contributions talk 13:59, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

@Fft47hg: Specifically here. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:33, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

I think Wikipedia:Not now would have been a more appropriate link. Except for the first couple of years of this site, all admins have been users for at least a year (usually longer) before they become admins. I believe we'll see Half-Life before we see an exception to that trend. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:25, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

@Fft47hg: If you're looking to get involved in the 'maintenance' side of Wikipedia, as opposed to article-writing, there are lots of ways in which you can contribute without being an admin. For example, you can help to fight vandalism (see WP:CUV for some tips), or copyedit articles (see WP:COPYEDIT) to improve their grammar or spelling. There are a lot of editors (myself included) whose contributions are mainly this type of thing, and we provide a very valuable input to the project by doing this. Neiltonks (talk) 12:29, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Biography

Hi everyone!

I'm having some trouble with the {biography} template. Especially the info box is giving me some problems. I would like to enter the country of the person I'm writing about. However, i immediately get a error that 'country' is a faulty parameter. Does someone know what I should do or which parameter I should use? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daphne.visser93 (talk • contribs) 13:37, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Greetings, @Daphne.visser93: Template:Biography apparently uses {{Infobox person}} for the infobox. The relevant parameters are |residence=, |nationality=, and |citizenship=. See the documentation at Template:Infobox person#Parameters for explanations of when each parameter should be used. Deor (talk) 13:57, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Meghan Markle

Please correct your references to Meghan Markle as a princess as she is not a princess . You have to be of royal blood to be called a princess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.201.170.145 (talk) 13:56, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, IP user, and welcome to the Teahouse. Comments about a particular article should go on that article's talk page. Click "Talk" at the top of the article to access it. That said, what matters is what independent reliable sources call her. 331dot (talk) 14:40, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

(ec) Though Talk:Meghan, Duchess of Sussex would be the correct place to ask this question, as she is the wife of a British Prince then she is technically a British Princess. Polyamorph (talk) 14:43, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Where is she called a princess? If you refer to Meghan, Duchess of Sussex being in Category:British princesses by marriage then some sources say her rank but not her title should be "princess by marriage of the United Kingdom, Great Britain and Northern Ireland".[1]. "princess by marriage" is apparently not the same as saying she is a princess. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:06, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Creating link question

In the article Racial segregation, there are two subentries for the United States. I want to create a link to the second of these, the one under “Contemporary segregation”, but cannot figure out how. Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 14:59, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Deisenbe (talk · contribs). Do you mean this: Racial_segregation#Contemporary_segregation. Add a '#' symbol between the article title and section you want to link to. Then if you want to change the title of the wikilink, use a piped link.

Unfortunately that is not what I mean. I want a link to Racial segregation - Contemporary segregation - United States. deisenbe (talk) 15:28, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

I see. I think you can add an {{anchor}} to the section and link to that? Polyamorph (talk) 15:48, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

This Racial_segregation#RS-US works. Polyamorph (talk) 15:52, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. I had never heard of anchors. deisenbe (talk) 15:56, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Deisenbe, links to anchors also have an advantage over section links. If the name of a section is changed, which may happen in an article reorganization, the link will be broken, while a link to an anchor will not be. Simialrly if a different subsection with the same name is created earlier in the article, a section link will thereafter go to the new section, while the destination of an anchor link is unchanged. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 17:03, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

@Deisenbe: When there are two sections called "United States", the second can be linked with Racial segregation#United States 2. Clicking the section in the table of contents will reveal this in the url. But if the first "United States" section is renamed or removed then the link with " 2" will fail. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:50, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Copyright question

I am trying to upload some images from a state archive, Florida Memory, to Wikimedia. Their statement of rights is:

https://www.floridamemory.com/photographiccollection/disclaimer.php

This does not seem to fit in any of the categories on the Wikimedia Upload Wizard, so I don’t know what to do. Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 17:18, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Deisenbe, and welcome to the Teahouse. That looks like an acceptable free license to me. I will look into exactly what tag should be used. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 18:44, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Any progress? deisenbe (talk) 14:06, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

View history - watchlist

Hi. Coming from Norwegian WP I am used to some practical functions there. When I click on the | hist) in my watchlist in Norwegian all the diffs I have not yet looked at will have a text added . . oppdatert siden mitt forrige besøk (.. updated since my last visit) and I can sort out what changes I have not yet looked at. I do not always look at changes right away and it is practical to be able to identify all the changes that have taken place since I last looked. I don't seem to be able to find a way to turn this functionality on in English. Is it possible at all? --ツ^ツDyveldi ^{☯ prat} _{✉ post} 17:19, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Dyveldi, and welcome to the Teahoiuse. I see such tags in page histories all the time on en wikipedia. I think if you go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist and choose the expanded watchlist, and go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and choose "Display green collapsible arrows and green bullets for changed pages in your watchlist, page history and recent changes" you will see this. But there may be other preference settings involved. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 18:51, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I needed to loose "Subtle update marker" and then I was able to read what was there. It was not a good idea to tick off everything. Your reading help, DES, is much appreciated.--ツ^ツDyveldi ^{☯ prat} _{✉ post} 19:07, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Eggs-actly how to create interwiki link to specific Wikiquote article section?

Bought a great new/old book, and immediately made a new section, Notebooks, for the insightful observation (esp. for an opium addict):

I lay too many Eggs ... with Ostrich Carelessness & Ostrich Oblivion.

of Samuel Taylor Coleridge on Wikiquote at Samuel Taylor Coleridge#Notebooks.

I carefully linked back to WP nest Coleridge's_notebooks. How best share the link love from WP with Template:Wikiquote back to the nest egg, ensuring no careless linkrot, tho' section name be "trod underfoot, & smashed"?

N.B. A score of his works with WP articles and ample Wikiquote sections could survive oblivion from such nurture. Is there not an automated solution?-- Paulscrawl (talk) 18:36, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Paulscrawl. You could for example produce the box to the right with this code:

{{Wikiquote|Samuel Taylor Coleridge#Notebooks|Samuel Taylor Coleridge's notebooks}}

I don't know Wikiquote policies. wikiquote:Template:Anchor can be used to make an anchor which keeps working if a section name is changed but the template is rarely used. If you use it to duplicate a current section name then it's possible another editor will notice the duplication and remove the template. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:42, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Adding proper information with citations for verification.

Hello,

I am beside myself.... Seems like every time I add valid content with references, Chrissymad removed every single addition I make. What on earth am I doing wrong?? Following guidelines, citing other people as reference, and nothing.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by SteveLauryRep (talk • contribs) 20:17, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, SteveLauryRep. You were adding overtly promotional content, such as "Well known for his compelling style and arrangements, perhaps no track better illustrates these qualities than the selection Keeping the Faith, released in 1993", which was unreferenced. You were also adding a link to a commercial website that sells CDs. This type of editing violates the neutral point of view. In addition, your user name indicates that you are a PR person with a conflict of interest regarding Laury. Read about our mandatory Paid editing disclosure, and please comply in full. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:28, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

This editor has been blocked by another administrator. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:30, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

live water map, crowd sourced

I might be the only person scraping social media data for hydro epidemiology, so I'm having a lot of trouble siting anything. https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=15ECSnEzlpb7kYJFAkvE02sfzWKAgNt7X — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johncbbb (talk • contribs) 22:25, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Johncbbb, and welcome to Wikipedia. I'm not quite certain I understand what you want to say here, but I'm going to try to reply the best I can. Unfortunately, Wikipedia needs citations from reliable sources. One of our limitations is that we can't write about the things that others haven't properly written about before, but without that, our entire system for quality control would crash. /Julle (talk) 22:41, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

If this isn't an answer to your question, please state clearly what it is you want to ask us, and we'll do our best to help you. /Julle (talk) 22:44, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! can I site the theory of how something might be done, even if they're not talking about me specifically? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johncbbb (talk • contribs) 23:50, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Johncbbb. If you want to write an article about "Water crowd source remote sensing", then you must summarize what reliable, independent sources say about that specific topic, and provide references to those sources. Please read Your first article for lots of useful information. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:15, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Please also note, Johncbbb, that to refer to a reference is to "cite" it, while a place on the web (or any location) is a "site". This is an easy mistake to make, I have made it many times, but it can be a source of confusion, particularly here on Wikipedia where we talk about cites and citing things rather more often than most sites do.

Also, please sign your posts to talk and discussion pages with four tildes (~~~~). The software converts this to a link to your user page, or your custom\ signature if you set one up, and a time stamp. It helps keep discussions clear. Thank you. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 00:26, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Does anybody have some reliable sources for Kyle Lai-Fatt?

I am working on a draft. Does anybody have any reliable sources for YouTuber and Visual Concepts developer, Kyle Lai-Fatt? Thank you. Maude~Duggel (talk) 00:47, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to Teahouse, Maude~Duggel. In the submission declined box, there are some links which can help you to find sources (Find sources: "The Disney Brain" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · HighBeam · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · The Wikipedia Library · NYT · WP reference). Your submissions of the draft will be declined until he meets the requirements of WP:N. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 03:07, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I know that, but do you think he's mentioned in this VistaPrint reference? I'm not really sure, but when I googled his name up, this pops up and some Norwegian websites that has nothing to do with Brain. Thanks! Maude~Duggel (talk) 09:29, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

References

@Maude~Duggel: seems not. I suggest you to give up this article per WP:N. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:30, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Question

i am a new editor, are there any policies or things that i should know about? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rufus Rose (talk • contribs) 03:55, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Rufus Rose. Please familiarize yourself with our policies and guidelines. Also worth reading are Wikipedia's Five Pillars. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:03, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rufus Rose (talk • contribs) 04:11, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

@Rufus Rose: Please sign your name next time by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thanks. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 06:38, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! Rufus Rosè (talk) 06:43, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Error in the value for calculation density for Bangkok (Spanish)

The value for the population density is wrong. The value it currently shows is 0, which is wrong. I also believe the value for the city population is also wrong as well so it would be nice if it could get checked out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.198.51.241 (talk) 04:39, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

What article are you referring to, please? We aren't mind readers. General Ization ^Talk 04:42, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Apparently you're not referring to the article Bangkok, because it reports the population density as 5,300/km2 (14,000/sq mi). General Ization ^Talk

It seems you're referring to the article Bangkok at the Spanish Wikipedia, which shows the incorrect density. Please contact someone at that edition of Wikipedia to request a correction. This is the English Wikipedia. General Ization ^Talk 04:49, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

The Spanish article uses a template which pulls the area and population from Wikidata and uses it to compute the density. Wikidata unusually gave the area in square metre while the template assumed square kilometre. I have changed it at Wikidata [2] and purged es:Bangkok which now displays a sensible density. Other places may be affected by the same issue if Wikidata uses square metre. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:33, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Other places may be affected by the same issue if Wikidata uses square metre. Looks to be quite a bit, actually! [3] –FlyingAce^✈hello 15:02, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

I don't know Spanish but have posted to es:Template talk:Ficha de entidad subnacional#Wrong population densities. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:26, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

do all articles need references?

Do all Wikipedia articles need references? Why? Angela Maureen (talk) 09:32, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Basically, yes. Because verifiability is one of Wikipedia's key policies. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:08, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

A slightly longer explanation is that this is how our system of quality control works. A traditional encyclopedia could say "I, A, the write, say this is true, and I've been assigned to write this because I am an expert in my field. My editor, B, and publisher, C, also guarantee that this, to the best of their knowledge, is the truth". But we're an encyclopedia written by anonymous and pseudonymous persons. We can't rely on this. So we need the sources, because otherwise anyone could claim anything and we'd just have edit wars back and forth. /Julle (talk) 13:33, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello September 1988 and welcome to the Teahouse.

There are a few types of pages on WP that might still be considered articles but don't have a references section. These include list and disambiguation articles. Entries in these special articles are expected to be documented internally. That is to say, entries are generally "blue links", so they are documented in those destination articles.

The "why" part of your question is interesting. One of the tradeoffs of WP being an encyclopedia that "anyone can edit" means that the value or accuracy of an article is not derived from the authority of the author. Instead, the reliability of WP articles is based on ensuring that everything written is based on properly summarizing what is written in reliable, published sources. This approach sometimes frustrates experts, whose contribution here is welcome, but not if they expect to write out of their own authority. Instead, we value their expertise for knowing where the most reliable sources on a subject may be found. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:01, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Another reason for the inclusion of sources is so that the reader can verify to their own satisfaction that something being asserted is something that they can accept. The reader might want to read the actual source material for verification. And they may also want to read the source material for additional information related to what is being asserted in the Wiki article. The reader's interests in a particular point may be wider than the more focussed assertion expressed in the Wiki article, thus they may have reason to consult a good quality source on a general topic. Bus stop (talk) 15:19, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

One more reason, September 1988: Because of its dynamic nature, schools will never allow a student to cite Wikipedia in a formal paper. Due to our virtually zero-cost business model, it's almost inevitable that at some point, we will put all the traditional paper encyclopedias out of business. We have a moral imparative to provide students with something they can cite. They cannot cite Wikipedia, but they can cite our sources. John from Idegon (talk) 23:29, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

new pages

i accidentally created two similar pages on my page and they are not articles yet, is there a way they can be deleted and I can start all over again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sportsstatsguy (talk • contribs) 10:18, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

As they're pages within your user space you can put {{db-u1}} on the pages, and a sysop will delete them. Alternatively, if all you want to do is rewrite them, just blank the page and start work on the new version. Richard⁰⁶¹² 10:48, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

My account

Hello. I have a Wikipedia account named Fft47hg. Yesterday I used it. Today, I went on Wikipedia and it was not logged in and I forgot my password. In logging in, if you forget your password, it asks for your email address. However, my email address isn't connected to Wikipedia. What should I do? 94.207.178.252 (talk) 10:30, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately not. Without an email address to send a new password to there's nothing that can be done. Richard⁰⁶¹² 10:52, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

You can try to recall your password. If you fail, you can create a new account, and post a link to it on the user and user talk pages of the old account, with an explanation. On your new account, you can enter an email address in your preferences, and confirm it. Then should a similar problem occur in future, you could do a password reset via email. You could also write down your password and keep it somewhere safe. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 12:01, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Bio article

Within about 3 seconds of my submitting bio article it was rejected! Was that enough to time to even read it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aitreabh (talk • contribs)

Hi Aitreabh! Welcome to Wikipedia, we're very happy you want to help out here. You're writing a biography about a living person, but have not added any references. You need to show where the information is coming from, and that other, reliable sources have written in (some) depth about the person (that is, not just in passing). You can read more about reliable sources at Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. Please do follow up here if there's anything we can do to help you. /Julle (talk) 15:34, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

@Aitreabh: The decline [4] said "This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability." It's the fastest review I have seen but it only takes a second to see that the References section is empty. You can add references and resubmit. See Help:Referencing for beginners. See Wikipedia:Notability (people) for the criteria you should try to satisfy by giving references. Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Creative professionals mentions authors. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:45, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

@Aitreabh: See Tony Hoagland for an example of a referenced article about a living poet. David notMD (talk) 18:14, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Adding categories

Hi all, I just made this page here: Giuseppe Bernasconi and can't see how to add categories. Last few pages I did, there was something that came up automatically, asking me to add some categories, but I missed it here, somehow! Can anybody help a hapless novice? :D Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 18:49, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Benchik Pelmenchik - you add categories by placing [[Category:SomeCategoryHere]] at the bottom of the article. Please make sure to follow the guidelines on categorisation. Richard⁰⁶¹² 18:57, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks, Richard! I see somebody's already added one too! I'll get on to adding a few more right now. All the Best! Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 18:59, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

perfectly good edit removed by someone who knows little or nothing about the subject.

Meh..Rafaels1979..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.228.42 (talk) 20:44, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, anonymous IP. You'll have to be more specific if you seek feedback and assistance here. The user you named has made no edits , nor have you. What article are you referring to? Am I missing something? Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:12, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

There is no Rafaels1979 with lowercase s. With uppercase S, Special:Contributions/RafaelS1979 shows too many edits to easily guess what the post is about. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:21, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

adding music

HOW DOES ONE ADD A SHORT MUSIC CLIP TO A WIKIPEDIA PAGE.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A FEW CLIPS (SOME LESS THAN A MINUTE; SOME TWO OR THREE MINUTES?) TO THE PAGE "KATHARINE VON BORA".

Moetapeega (talk) 01:59, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Moetapeega Hi, Welcome to Teahouse!. for sound clip, pls visit Help:Sound file markup where the file must be uploaded to either Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Commons and for music score, please visit Help:Score. Cheers! CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 02:11, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

But in either case, the copyright must be appropriate, Moetapeega, just as for an image. Either the music must be in the public domain, or have been explicitly licensed under an acceptable free licence; or all the criteria in non-free content criteria must be met. --ColinFine (talk) 08:55, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Copyvio links

It appears that user Special:Contributions/WilsonPerez2 has added a lot of copyvio links (topcartoons.tv and b99.tv) to movie title pages - can someone more experienced look into this, thanks! --Janke | Talk 05:50, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

@Janke: Hi, Thank you. There are external link spams. Reverted and reported. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 10:14, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Need review help from members for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kankana_Banerjee

Hi Community,

I have almost followed every little instructions members suggested me on Teahouse community. 1. I have removed wikipedia links from citation and inserted into keywords as hyperlink 2. I have removed all keywords that are self promoting as cited by fellow members. 3. I have added citation wherever required and requested.

Also, my query is about what action is needed to be taken inorder to prove my neutral point of view as mentioned by my wikipedia members.

This article is very important to me as I have edited this article multiple number of times and willing to make further efforts to successfully publish it.

Regards Sarbavoum Bidhar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarbadigital (talk • contribs) 09:10, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

I've looked at the draft and made some minor changes. Please note that citations should follow punctuation marks, not precede them. But the most serious problem with the draft is the lack of citations of reliable independent published sources with significant discussion of the subject, needed to establish that she is notable. I've checked most of the sources currently cited, and failed to find any which qualify. Which three do you believe do most to satisfy the criteria "independent" and "significant discussion"? Incidentally, there are far too may "External links". If you're planning to cite those sources, you should do so; otherwise, you should remove almost all of them. Maproom (talk) 10:03, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks and welcome Maproom for your edits and guidance. Well, Kankana Banerjee has many links that satisfy the criteria "independent" and "significant discussion". Here are some listed below from the article https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Singing-notes-of-melody/articleshow/259987.cms http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/chennai-edition-of-akashvanis-sangeet-sammelan/article7765777.ece http://www.southasianoutlook.com/issues/2001/august/artiste_profile.htm https://www.thestatesman.com/supplements/candid-views-on-change-124781.html https://timesofindia.speakingtree.in/blog/sankat-mochan-hanuman-temple-varanasi http://www.itcsra.org/TributeMaestro.aspx?Tributeid=32

Note: Please, use ctrl+F and use Kankana Banerjee in the content search to find any mention about her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarbadigital (talk • contribs) 10:22, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Here and in article Talk, at the end of your comments type four of ~. That will add your signature to your comments. David notMD (talk) 11:27, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Picture upload format?

does a picture you want to upload have to be in a specific format? o_O Edith Edits Your Poor Mistakes (talk) 09:26, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Edith Edits Your Poor Mistakes - Please see Wikipedia:Preparing images for upload for the lists of preferred formats. and the allowed but "should be avoided" formats. If this raises any questions, please come back - Arjayay (talk) 09:38, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Edith Edits Your Poor Mistake: Hello, Welcome to Teahouse, for photographic pls use JPEG and for animated images pls use GIF. Pls convert to PNG format if uncompressed BMP and TIFF images are used.

Please read image use policy on images copyright and licensing prior upload the image. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 09:55, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

deleting a redirect and creating a new article instead?

Hi Teahouse, I'm wondering how I should go about fixing an issue with a redirect. Right now, British Institute in Eastern Africa redirects to Neville Chittick, its first director, but I really think that the British Institute in Eastern Africa (BIEA) deserves its own page. I'd like to delete the redirect from Neville Chittick and then create a new page for the BIEA, but I'm not sure if this will result in speedy deletion issues or if I'll somehow be violating rules for dealing with redirects. I can start the BIEA article in my sandbox, and thus have it ready to go, but I'd like some advice before I proceed. Thanks! Ninafundisha (talk) 12:52, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

• @Ninafundisha: Feel free to replace the redirect with your article; there are no issues with doing that or any rules against it. Galobtter (pingó mió) 12:56, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Galobtter is right, Ninafundisha. But you should treat this as creating a new article, and start by reading Your first article if you haven't done so already. Unless you are confident that you can write an acceptable article on the first attempt, I would advise you to simply start a Draft Draft:British Institute in Eastern Africa, using the Article wizard. When a reviewer accepts your draft, they will handle moving it over the redirect. --ColinFine (talk) 17:01, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Template problem

Template:History of slavery in the United States says Washington D.C. and it should be changed to District of Columbia. The reason is that the District of Columbia was a separate political entity until 1871, when it was merged with the city of Washington. (I’m at work on an article on that.) The topic “History of Slavery in Washington D.C.” is misleading at best. It should be “History of Slavery in the District of Columbia” (which I’m thinking of writing). However, looking at the code, and I’ve never seen anything like this, I don’t know how to correct it. Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 14:04, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Deisenbe, and welcome to the Teahouse! To link to History of Slavery in the District of Columbia, all you would have to do is add DC = District of Columbia as a parameter anywhere in the template. However, I honestly am not sure how to make the text display as something different. I'll look into this further and try to fix it the best I can if I'm able to and some point, but there's probably someone more knowledgeable with the topic that can help you more.--SkyGazer 512 ^{What will you say? / What did I do?} 14:19, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

I will add an option to change the displayed text for Washington D.C. in {{United States topic}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:37, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Done [5], documented and applied to {{History of slavery in the United States}}.[6] PrimeHunter (talk) 14:49, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

What's this?

What is this teahouse thing? Savage2001 (talk) 14:39, 21 May 2018 (UTC)Savage2001

Greetings, Savage2001. See Meta:Research:Teahouse/FAQ. Deor (talk) 15:40, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Notability

Hello there.

My article keeps coming up rejected due to notability requirements. I have linked in published awards recently, but it seems that regardless the page should fall under "Creative Professionals", photography, then line item 3, "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. 8 published books, press house published all with ISBN numbers, not self published, would seem to me to fall into this category. What else needs to be done? When resubmitting, is there somewhere that this can be noted? Any guidelines and help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lmandrell (talk • contribs) 16:09, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Lmandrell. Your username indicates that you may be the subject of the article. Please be aware that Wikipedia strongly discourages autobiographies. You have a conflict of interest and should edit with great caution. Simply being the author of eight books is inadequate to establish notability. What we need is significant coverage of this person and their body of work in several reliable, independent sources. In most cases for authors, this will be mutiple reviews written by professional book reviewers and published in reliable, independent sources. This excludes coverage by publishers, book sellers, random reader reviews, and anything generated by press releases. Please read Your first article for more information. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:26, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Gatherings of wikipedia editors -- do wikipedia people get together with others in their area? How would I find out about such gatherings?

Do wikipedia people get together with others in their area? How would I find out about such gatherings? Thanks in advance. Summertime4 (talk) 16:42, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Indeed they do, Summertime4! The Wikimedia Meta-Wiki has information on Meetups and Events for users of all Wikimedia projects, and the English Wikipedia has a page at Wikipedia:Meetup. clpo13_(talk) 16:52, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Possible contribution to Wikipedia pages on Margaret Thatcher, Thatcherism and neo-liberalism

hello,

I am an academic who, as part of a larger research project, commissioned a professional documentary film maker to produce a film about Margaret Thatcher (UK Prime Minister 1979-1990) and Thatcherism. The film is avaialble here:

https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/GenerationRight

If any one is interested, could they provide a link to it from Wikipedia's pages on Margaret Thatcher, Thatcherism, noe-liberalism, perhaps?

Many thanks,

Professor Stephen Farrall, University of Sheffield, UK — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephen Farrall (talk • contribs) 16:43, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Stephen Farrall. A link to the film might be appropriate if independent film reviewers have written that it provides new information or a unique perspective on Thatcher, especially if those reviewers are historians or Thatcher biographers. The best place to discuss it would be Talk: Margaret Thatcher. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:16, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Citing references to websites

Hello! I am a complete newcomer to Wikipedia. I have created a new article - its on my sandbox - and I am struggling to understand the guidance on how to insert the citations (I'm using Visual Editor). All I need is to provide numbers in the text and ref list that take the reader to the specified site. Can anyone offer a very simple beginners' guide? Aspidistra1066 (talk) 16:52, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Help:Referencing for beginners includes a section on Using VisualEditor. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:59, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Article editing during AfD debate

Hello! I literally tried to find an answer to this question: As per WP:EDITATAFD which states "if you can address the points raised during the discussion by improving the article, you are encouraged to edit a nominated article", am I allowed, as a COI contributor to Jasmine Directory, to edit the live article to improve its notability? I already made use of the {{request edit}} template however, with no response yet. To facilitate the request edit I created a sandboxed version which is the improvement to the live article. I am unsure if I am allowed to edit the live article or not. Thank you! Robertgombos (talk) 17:53, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Robertgombos. This doesn't entirely answer your question, but I would point out that it's not articles that are notable or not, but rather their subjects. The easiest way to save an article nominated for deletion because of notability concerns is simply to demonstrate that significant coverage of the topic exists by posting links to that coverage in the AfD discussion. Updates to the article itself can wait until the discussion is over. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:05, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Larry for your input. I proceeded To be honest I've never been very active in AfD debates and I don't know what's the standard procedure when one policy contradicts itself with another. WP:EDITATAFD encourages to improve the article during AfD, however my COI with that specific article prohibits it. And I really don't want to get involved in COI fights nor to beat a dead horse. :) Robertgombos (talk) 20:12, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Robertgombos, I'm an AfD veteran myself, and while improvements to an article at AfD bolstering notability are almost always welcome (any other improvements, with deletion pending, are premature), with COI involved I applaud your caution. Larry's advice as to how to handle it is good; COI or not, and however much I fall on the deletionist side of the spectrum, show me indepth coverage in reliable sources that I missed myself, and I change my vote. Ravenswing 22:29, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Ravenswing, I tried to find a fair consensus to my question and, as I do when I need an advice, I like to ask from those who know. In real life, the same rule applies. The sources are added in my last comments on the AfD discussion. I have not pinged you to avoid being accused of... pinging you. You will have to excuse my English, it will get better by reading and writing (sometimes). ;) Robertgombos (talk) 00:13, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello Robertgombos and welcome to the Teahouse.

COI editors are welcome to participate in AfD discussions as long as they are not hiding their COI. Entries at AfD do need to be based on policy. If lack of notability is the main reason for deletion, then presenting references in AfD that properly support notability is the best way to prevent deletion. Adding them to the article or talk page during AfD is not as effective, and adding them to the article as a COI editor would likely raise issues. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:42, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

jmcgnh Thank you, respecting the policies is fundamental and when I feel that I need some help I always ask for it. Robertgombos (talk) 00:13, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Here is my friendly advice to you, Robertgombos, as a veteran of thousands of AfD debates. Be brief. Be concise. Your tendency to wordiness is your enemy in a forum like that. Do you think that editors working on dozens of articles simultaneously want to immerse themselves in excessive detail? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:51, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Huh, I know Jim about my tendency to wordiness. I have been writing weekly columns for a Romanian psychology(-ish) magazine since 2007 and lately I write a lot about contemporary art. To get my BFA I needed to write "minimum" 50 pages thesis. Everybody wrote exactly 50 pages and a few adventured themselves totowards 60 pages. I wrote a 140-page long one. No one intrerupted me nor asked a question while presenting it. Now, I am curious how my dissertation will look like. I'll try to remove from my comments in the AfD unnecessary phrases because I do not want readers to get distracted by unnecessary information. - did it. Thanks for the advice. Robertgombos (talk) 08:01, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

When to create a user page?

Hi, I am new to editing on Wikipedia, but I thought I'd share what I know about fragrances and essential oils. I assumed that it was good practice to create a 'user page', but hardly 3 minutes after creating a user page, and before I had a chance to even submit a first edit, my user page was marked for 'quick deletion'. I was somewhat surprised but I went ahead and created my first edit, but I am wondering now if I did the wrong thing by creating a user page? Should I wait to do this? Many thanks! Perfumehead — Preceding unsigned comment added by Perfumehead (talk • contribs) 18:52, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Greetings, Perfumehead. The request for speedy deletion of your user page was declined by the administrator Seraphimblade, so I don't think you have anything to worry about. Someone seems to have been a bit overzealous in tagging it for deletion. Deor (talk) 20:42, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

It's allowed to start by creating a user page as long as it satisfies Wikipedia:User pages. Many users create a promotional or long off-topic user page and never contribute to the encyclopedia but User:Perfumehead seems OK. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:50, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

retrieve deleted draft

Hi, how do I retrieve a deleted draft? I created an article yesterday, it was not perfect, but I was under the impression that it may take up to 2 months to review it, and I will have time to edit it meanwhile. Well, it was deleted before I could do anything. I would like to continue working on it, and I think I can improve it. thanks.

```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klaustrofobia (talk • contribs) 21:17, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

@Klaustrofobia: Try WP:REFUND. I can't access the draft, as I don't have access to deleted things. As far as I can tell, though, it was similar to your user sandbox, which I can see. I might suggest removing the "mission" and "organizational structure" sections, they're not usually in articles. I don't think it should have been deleted so quickly (personally) but a lot of editors are rather zero-tolerance when it comes to G11. Although, I will ask, do you have a conflict of interest? -A lad insane (Channel 2) 22:25, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

Hello Klaustrofobia and welcome to the Teahouse.

It appears you also posted a {{help me}} request on your talk page and have been answered. It's better to select just one place to ask a given question rather than multiple places. If the emailed article did not show up in your email, you need to check that you have recorded the correct email address with WP, check your spam folder, etc, etc.

Please note that when a drat has been deleted for being too promotional, there are good reasons to start over entirely and not try to tweak the old draft into some semblance of compliance. — jmcgnh<sup>(talk) (contribs)</sup> 22:26, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Unfounded remark on page's reliability

Recently, unfounded remark on Wikipedia's page devoted to professor Miodrag Petkovic has appear in the form: "The topic of this article may not met Wikipedia notability guidance for academic." Regarding the conditions required for removing this incorrect comment, one should emphasize that there are even 9 (nine) reliable sources (of renowned world companies) that confirm the correctess of all presented data. This can be easily verified by "calling" the marked sources.

Consequently, respecting Wikipedia's and academic's rules, should the comments in the heading be removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cubercuber (talk • contribs) 22:45, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

@Cubercuber: For starters, you can cite (in the article) three or more professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources that are specifically about Petković but independent of and not dependent upon Petković. That would firmly establish that he does indeed meet our standards for notability. There are no sources independent of Petković in the article.

I see that that the article was started by Petković himself. Between that, how you've turned the piece into advertising for him, and how you refer to the notability question as "unfounded," I can only conclude you are Petković. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:58, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello Cubercuber and welcome to the Teahouse.

It seems you are confusing the concepts of verifiability and notability as they are used on Wikipedia. As Ian.thomson has pointed out, the standard for notability requires independent sources. Simply being verifiable is insufficient, all by itself, to establish notability. — jmcgnh<sup>(talk) (contribs)</sup> 23:05, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Actually, Ian.thomson, WP:ACADEMIC does not require that type of coverage. Many notable academics have no such coverage, and are notable because their research is widely cited by their peers. I have removed the notability tag. Cubercuber, the referencing needs to be improved, and the external links in the body are not appropriate and should be removed. Cullen<sup>328</sup> Let's discuss it 23:09, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

How to create an info box?

How do I create an infobox on a page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Learningisthebest (talk • contribs) 23:40, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Search your category here and follow the instructions. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 00:09, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi,Learningisthebest Welcome to Teahouse! You could find here existing inboxes in Wikipedia which you could use. If you intend to insert an infobox to your Draft:Inspire Group page, then scroll to Business and economics and find a info box that suited for your use.

Note on your draft article - You did not cite the source correctly at the current stage. Please visit referencing for beginners on how to cite source in Wikipedia. Cheers! CASSIOPEIA<sup>(talk)</sup> 00:13, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Publish a draft

Hi I created a draft - Draft:Canetic Advisors. There is no button allowing me to move this page to Wikipedia. How do I have it approved or move it? This was a rewrite of a draft that was not accepted and has been completely rewritten. Thank you TONYLAAD 00:26, 22 May 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TONYLAAD (talk • contribs)

@TONYLAAD: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. It is true that you are missing the appropriate template to allow you to submit the draft for review; but I would tell you before adding it that your draft is a long way from being in shape to submit. It is very promotional in its language and nature, and it seems like you are attempting to spread the word about the company and its products. The links you offer as sources mention Canetic Advisors tangentially, if at all. Please review the notability guidelines for organizations at WP:ORG, which any organization must meet in order to merit an article. In short, they ask for in depth coverage of the subject in independent reliable sources. Routine announcements, brief mentions, press releases, or anything similar to those things does not establish notability. If no one has chosen to write about this company in depth(on their own), it is probably too soon for an article about this company. Wikipedia cannot be used to generate notability or spread the word about a company, it must already be notable.

I would surmise that you represent Canetic Advisors; if you do, you will need to review the conflict of interest policy and also the paid editing policy; the latter is required if you are paid to edit here(such as an employee editing about their employer). 331dot (talk) 00:35, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, TONYLAAD. I agree completely with 331dot above. There is no chance whatsoever that your draft will be approved in its current form. Your draft describes the company's founder as "a passionate entrepreneur and energy industry thought leader with over 25 years of renewables, clean-tech and start-up experience. Canetic has set out a mission to disrupt the impact investing ‘intelligence’ space." Let me be frank with you. Phrases like "passionate entrepreneur" and "thought leader" and "disrupt the blah blah space" are examples of the worst type of promotional corporatespeak baloney, devoid of any substantive content. There are many similar examples of promotional startup jargon in your draft. That kind of language violates one of our core content policies, the neutral point of view, and is utterly unacceptable in an encyclopedia article. So, your first step is to comply with our mandatory (non-negotiable) paid editing disclosure. Your second step is to find reliable, independent sources that devote significant coverage to this company. Then summarize what those sources say - no more and no less. Then, ruthlessly strip every single shred of promotional language from the draft, until it is the most boring and most rigorously factual thing that you have ever written. Once you have done all that, double check your work and remove any hint, trace or whiff of promotional language that remains. Finally, add this template to the top of your draft:

{{subst:submit}}

Save your draft, and you will see a button to submit. Click it. Cullen<sup>328</sup> Let's discuss it 01:25, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

TONYLAAD: you should be aware that when normal readers (not PR people) read "a passionate entrepreneur and energy industry thought leader", they mentally translate it as "a self-promoting bullshitter and generator of vaporware". Quite apart from Wikipedia policy, you would create a better impression by sticking to facts. Maproom (talk) 16:37, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

The draft was deleted as G11 before, and so I've nominated it again as it evidently meets that criterion now (it is clear that "rewrite" did not do anything meaningful) Galobtter (pingó mió)

How to add information when you have physical references

Hi,

I want to help out on the development of the Nintendo 64 page, I have some information that is not represented in the article. Specifically, there is no mention of the project director. I happen to be related to said project director, so I also have a related question about what to do when you are personally connected to a subject(person) that you intend to contribute information about. Do I need to declare a conflict of interests or something?

The more important question I have though is about offline material. So I have a stack of published articles and magazines that I was hoping to use as sources, but I'm not sure how I should go about using them. After all, I don't imagine I can just type up a bibliographical reference to some printed article no one else can verify.

Thank you, I appreciate the assistance in advance. Ignus3 (talk) 03:11, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Ignus3, Welcome to Teahouse! Anyone that is related to the subject and involves in editing the article in Wikipedia is considered with conflict of interest (COI). You could disclose your COI here. Wikipedia is strongly discourage COI editing and you could request other Wikipedia editors to edit for you on the page instead by placing {{request edit}} on the article talk page.

Any independent, reliable source such as from major newspaper, notable publisher could be used as a source irregardless they are obtain from the web or from print and it could be wriitten in any languages. Drop drop by again, if you have further questions. Cheers!. CASSIOPEIA<sup>(talk)</sup> 03:47, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Unless there is a published reference to the name of the project director, you may not add that information to the article. If you do find a published source, you should declare your conflict of interest according to the WP:COI guidelines. You can provide citations of published articles and magazines, as long as they are published by reputable publishers, even if they are offline. Self-published sources are not acceptable. I am not sure though, about your question regarding sources that "no one else can verify". If they were published, they can be used. Even old books etc., which are not online, can be used. But if it is some material that you have the only existing copy of, then it is not possible for Wikipedia readers to verify the information; in that case it can't be used. I hope this helps. --IamNotU (talk) 03:38, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you to both CASSIOPEIA and IamNotU! ^_^ my "unverifiable" comment was more theoretical, since I was assuming that regular publication alone was not enough, but rather that there needed to be some online reference showing that the article/magazine was indeed published.

I will check out the COI guidelines, and I'm very committed to the NPOV, so I don't mind just doing request edits. My goal here is to fill in missing information, the fact that I have a personal motivation for doing so is something I'm trying to make as irrelevant as possible, both by maintaining NPOV and following the rules and procedures :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ignus3 (talk • contribs) 04:33, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Rude!

Hi, I'd like to know about how to use Template:Uw-npa1. The text says: "Hello, I'm Example. I noticed that you made a comment that didn't seem very civil, so it has been removed. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you."

I know how to put the template on someone's talk page. But are there instructions or a guideline that explains under what circumstances I can remove another editor's comment (or portions thereof) on a talk page, because it "didn't seem very civil", as the template says? The actual case is here: Talk:Münsterstraße_(street_in_Dortmund)#Notability. It's not really terribly rude, I mean there's no swearing... but actually it's rude! There is an AfD discussion about the article, and I meant to politely suggest that people should direct any relevant notability comments there, while it's active, instead of to the talk page. The reply from Otr500 seems sarcastic, provocative, and, well, uncivil. "Thank you for your improper instructions", "you do not have the authority, unless you bought the rights from Wikipedia, to dictate that article content", "if you did purchase this article, I will apologize in advance and refrain from future edits"...

I've been active on Wikipedia for more than a decade now, and so far have never had the occasion to want to use this template, but for some reason, these particular sarcastic and rude remarks toward me and, further on to another editor (You will have to enlighten the Wikipedia world as to the meaning of [your comments]", "Please also note during this editing 101 class that...]] and so on, have really pushed my buttons! Any advice appreciated, thanks. --IamNotU (talk) 03:11, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello IamNotU and welcome to the Teahouse.

More a violation of AGF, I think. You could graciously ignore the comment, it's an easy way to go.

The warning templates are not magic. The wording has been worked out carefully to be civil, non-antagonistic, but firm. You could post your own admonition, based on the warning template, but ommitting the "so it has been removed" phrase. But you should not remove any comments.

My reading is that Otr500 was making an overly sarcastic response to your advice. I agree with them that your advice was largely incorrect. WP:EDITATAFD says that even if an article is up for AfD, one can continue to edit the article (within certain limits) and discuss improvements on its talk page. There is no need to wait for the Afd discussion to conclude. Of course, it's a also good idea to get any notability advocacy into the AfD discussion as well, so you were partially correct.

And if you watch the AfD, you'll see that it turns on rather fine points of policy; the consensus may see things Otr500's way or perhaps conclude, instead, that some aspect of NGEO or other argument for keep is more applicable.

So my strong recommendation is to leave everything alone and just use this incident as a learning experience. — jmcgnh<sup>(talk) (contribs)</sup> 06:43, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

jmcgnh, thanks for your answer. I guess they were deliberately trying to provoke me, and I guess it worked... but probably I shouldn't let it get to me. I'm still curious about the template, and why it says the comment "has been removed". I understood that you shouldn't remove other peoples' comments, so it seems odd. In the meantime I found WP:REMOVEUNCIVIL, which helps explain it, though not completely... I didn't suggest people shouldn't edit the article, I just meant to ask if there were additional arguments relevant to the AfD discussion, that they could go there, rather than splitting off into two separate threads and having to cross-reference each other. It didn't seem like a helpful idea to spill the AfD discussion over to the talk page while it was still active. I admit that saying "this page is about article content" is not really right. In any case, a polite correction would have been nice instead of uncivil sarcasm... I'll try to graciously ignore it, though it's maybe too late for that now, as it looks like you pinged the user who will come here and read this? I was kind of hoping to just get some advice before saying anything to them (or not)... Anyway, thanks again. --IamNotU (talk) 13:12, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi IamNotU, I do understand how you feel for being treated for what you are not accustom to as what your background would deem a behavior is not acceptable/polite in social setting. You could visit this page for information on what constitutes personal attack. Counter vandalism team members,(or any other editor), we do revert/remove the personal attack edit and placing a "npa" (no personal attack) warning template on the said editor talk page and would continue to increase the warning level if the same type of edit continues. If personal attack edit is on user page / user talk page then it is constitutes "vandalism" edit and if the attack is particularity serious and extremely derogatory such as sexual/sexual orientation harassment, trolling with profanity, legal/violent treats we could report the editor to Administrator intervention against vandalism immediately. There are some differences between what is not a civil behaviour vs personal attack. In Wikipedia, not respond to multiple requests on unexplained edits/ or not cooperative might consider not civil but editor has committed no personal attack here, and that would be the same for being condescending, patronizing, or silly name calling (such as calling editor an idiot even their behavior fits the term). I hope the above help. Cheers and have a wonderful day. CASSIOPEIA<sup>(talk)</sup> 00:06, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Why "award-winning" is peacock term?

Hello. I am korean wikipedian who trying to introduce Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch to kowiki. But I cannot understand why 'Award-winning'is considered peacock. Is it just neutral word told to "A subject win award"? I want to know if it is not, why.--Reiro (talk) 10:09, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi@Reiro:, Welcome to Teahouse! Content in Wikipedia should be written in neutral point of view. A peacock term is to use words show off the subject especially when adjective such as award wining is use as it has the connotation to puff up the subject in attempt to influence and appeal to an readers' emotions. Instead stating " Julianne Moore is an award wining actress', it is better to put the wording in a plain and factual manner - " Julianne Moore is an American actress and she won an Academy Award and two Golden Globes awards. Drop by again, should you have further question'. Have a good day. Cheers! CASSIOPEIA<sup>(talk)</sup> 10:50, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

@CASSIOPEIA:Oh, I got it. Thank you, CASSIOPEIA!--Reiro (talk) 10:54, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Oh, we've clashed in our replies. But Reiro, here's a similar and somewhat wordier explanation I've just written for you: It's a sensible question. My interpretation of "award-winning" is that it never gives enough information, and sounds rather similar to saying they're a really great person because they've won some awards. It seems unnecessary to say it. It may very occasionally be ok to use that term in the lead paragraph, providing there is also a section on "Awards and honours" further down which details (with references) all the awards they have bestowed upon them. But the question you could ask is "why do I need to say someone is an award-winning person when there's clearly a section on awards?" A person is a politician, a musician, a sportsman, a K-pop band or a scientist, and our encyclopaedia needs to say that. Only later does the article need to say that they have won awards of one sort or another for doing what they do. Whilst the award may help make the person notable by Wikipedia's standards, we generally don't need to say it in the introductory paragraph as if it's trying to 'big them up' - i.e using award-winning in that way is just another peacock term. I haven't checked, but I would not expect an article on Usain Bolt to say he is a medal-winning athlete. I'd expect the article to specify which races he won, records he broke or to list all his the honours and awards in a discrete section. I realise this is a rather wordy explanation, and I might not have answered it very well for you, but I appreciate the question and hope I've helped at least a little in your understanding. Please let me know if this make sense, or have I confused you further? Regards from the beautiful and award-winning United Kingdom. Nick Moyes (talk) 10:57, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

To add to what CASSIOPIA said, Reiro: an "award" could be anything from second prize in a swimming competition to Best Actor in the Oscars. Mentioning a specific award makes that clear; "award-winning" doesn't. But if somebody actually has won an Oscar, people will more likely describe them as "Oscar-winning" rather than "award-winning". So "award-winning" covers a range that at first sight seems to go from bottom to top, but in practice probably doesn't go to the top, and so tends to inflate their achievement. --ColinFine (talk) 10:58, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

My article was declined even after submission of solid proof

Hi All, I submitted a page for a film. I added references and articles that give you proof. But still, they are not accepting the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vignesh.pichai (talk • contribs)

Is this about User:Vignesh.pichai/sandbox? There is some advice on in-line referencing on your talk page. Dbfirs 11:02, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

@Vignesh.pichai: See WP:N. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 11:42, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Uk election

Can all of you grow up and put back the graphical summary of opinion polls for the next UK election. Just because your supreme leader corbyn isnt leading should not mean you should move to censorship

Truley pathetic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:270C:3B00:4C62:E8E7:4FDA:1F1C (talk) 11:14, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

If you have comments about a specific article, you should bring them to the talk page of that article- and there could be any number of reasons that the table was removed other than "censorship" which you have no evidence of. Also, this is a worldwide project and editors are not necessarily from the UK or involved in UK politics, so please don't make that sort of accusation without evidence. 331dot (talk) 11:17, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

• This is the article in question. The IP above has no previous edits, but is referring to a table added by James-Smillie99 which was subsequently removed, on the grounds that it was a bold edit with no talk page consensus (consensus was to remove the graph in the first place), and added a graph to the (table-heavy) article. I agree with 331dot that claims of censorship are not justified, and that all grievances should be taken to the relevant talk page. Stormy clouds (talk) 11:28, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Upload Music

How do I upload musical excerpts in ogg to wikimedia commons? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moetapeega (talk • contribs) 15:00, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Moetapeega, I believe the instructions are here c:Commons:Audio and upload happens here: c:Special:UploadWizard. Do note the strict licensing requirements: c:Commons:Licensing. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:59, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Why are our links removed as spamming ?

We have tried to add our link to those who are buried in either Key Hill Cemetery and Warstone Lane Cemetery in Birmingham Jewellery Quarter, Hockley. We are a voluntary group who researches the lives of the notable people buried in these two historic Cemeteries. We are the only group to maintain the cemeteries and graves. Such as Joseph Chamberlain , Joseph Gilliot (Pen Maker ) John Skirrow Wright ( Postal Order ) Plus many more. Our links have been removed as spam. We are not spamming. Other groups such as JQRT and the Hockley Flyer have links I see no reason why out voluntary group cannot also.

Friends of Key Hill Cemetery & Warstone Lane Cemetery  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grave-matters (talk • contribs) 15:08, 22 May 2018 (UTC) 

The same question has been asked, and answered, at the Help Desk. Maproom (talk) 15:26, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Questioning a product

This is the first time I am using this question page.

Decades ago I heard about and used a product called Vemma. I have since learned it is no longer available. However, I received an email about a product called Nutrabase which uses the same colors and print type extremely similar to the Vemma product. Can anyone find out if Nurtabase is related to Vemma? I'm curious because I received the infomercial via email and am wondering if it's the same Vemma product (that got in trouble) under different packaging and a different name. Personally, I have no idea how to go about investigating something like this.

Elteral3 (talk) 15:32, 22 May 2018 (UTC)Thanks for any thoughts or information. ~EL

The Teahouse is, as it says at the head of this page, "A friendly place to learn about editing Wikipedia." For more general enquiries not related to editing Wikipedia, try WP:Reference desk. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:35, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Referencing a Hebrew image file on English wikipedia (Left to right, vs right to left text)

I am trying to use this image file stored on the Hebrew Wikipedia, for this English article:

I finally figured out the unicode version of the url, but what is the proper way to figure this out? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shushugah (talk • contribs) 16:14, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

In English Wikipedia, you can use images that are at Wikimedia Commons, and those that are at English Wikipedia. You can't use any that are at other Wikipedias but not at either of those two. You may be able to copy the image from Hebrew Wikipedia to Commons, and then use it in an article here. Whether you can depends on its copyright status: Commons is more fussy about copyright than most individual Wikipedias. Maproom (talk) 17:28, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Johann Kremenezky

I'm sorry, I should read questions properly before I answer them. Here's the wikicode that produces the image to the right: [[File:יונה קרמנצקי-JNF012553.jpeg|thumb|80px|Johann Kremenezky]] . Maproom (talk) 19:38, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Duplicate entries

I see there is an entry for William Cray Brownell and another for W. C. Brownell. They are the same person. What can I or you do to fix it?

Louis Kessler KKMI1740 — Preceding unsigned comment added by KKMI1740 (talk • contribs) 16:27, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Wow, KKMI1740, you're right about that! I can't believe that went unnoticed for so many years - thank you so much for pointing that out. I've now turned the W.C. Brownell page into a redirect page pointing to William Crary Brownell. What this means is that if a reader searches for or clicks a link to W. C. Brownell, they will automatically be taken to the William Crary Brownell page, with a small notice at the top of the page saying "Redirected from W. C. Brownell." In the future, if there are two articles that obviously are the same topic and should obviously be the same article, replace the content of one of them (usually the one with the less appropriate title or with the lesser amount of content) with: #REDIRECT: [Other page here]. Make sure that if the article you're turning into a redirect has any content that is not mentioned in the duplicate article, that you make sure to include that information in the redirect target. Hope this helps, let me know if you have any questions, and once again, thanks for pointing this out!--SkyGazer 512 <sup>What will you say? / What did I do?</sup> 17:03, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Good advice, and good catch. However, if you do copy any content from the article you are about to convert into a redirect to the other article, be sure to comply with Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. In my view, the best way to do this is by using {{copied}}. But other methods, including a link in the edit summary when copying the content, can be used. Please keep this in mind. @SkyGazer 512KKMI1740: DES <sup>(talk)</sup><sub>DESiegel Contribs</sub> 23:50, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Trying to avoid an 'edit war' - need help from an experienced user or admin

I have been using and contributing to Wikipedia for many years, and I have found myself in a potential edit war which I want to avoid.

The page Dave Min is about a current candidate up for election in California. The page has been edited recently by user BrittonBurdick, a paid staffer of rival candidate Kia Hamandachy (it's easy enough to confirm this information by searching for Britton's LinkedIn page; I won't post the link to that in the interest of privacy). I believe he has also been 'sock-puppeting' on this page as anonymous user 2600:8802:2101:2fa0:71ac:614e:db16:b2b2

I have made some edits to this page which I have referenced on the Dave Min talk page. "the article referenced is a fabrication" documents a dispute which I feel was resolved and edited by an admin. "The editor has attributed information not found in the cited source" is self explanatory, but this user made edits to the page reverting my edits without commenting on the talk page.

Recently, he removed this second edit I made (Min response statement) and commented on my person talk page as if he were posting from an admin's perspective, saying "I removed the Ballotopedia article because the consensus of editors and administrators Wikipedia that it does not meet our standards of reliable sources." The article I posted referenced his employer, rival candidate Kia Hamandachy.

If you look at all 24 of the edits since May 11, with the exception of my 3 edits 3 minor edits, they are all by him or the referenced anonymous account. The way the page stands now these paragraphs reflect only his partisan opinion, and he has removed all referenced to his employer.

I'm hoping that an impartial editor might look at these changes and make appropriate changes that would reinstate my edit. Or can I confidently go ahead and reinstate my edits (which he as referred to as BLP/Vandalism)without being accused of 'edit warring'? Could a more experienced person also comment on whether some remedy such as blocking this user might be applied? Gbonline (talk) 16:31, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Gbonline. In my opinion, Dave Min fails our notability guideline for politicians since he is an unelected candidate for office. I believe that this article (and all similar articles) should be deleted. The best outcome would be rigorously neutral coverage of Min and all the other candidates at California's 45th congressional district or a spinoff article about the 2018 election in that district. As for your concerns about BrittonBurdick having a possible conflict of interest , you should discuss that at User talk:BrittonBurdick. If that editor is paid by a candidate, then a paid editing disclosure is mandatory. Cullen<sup>328</sup> Let's discuss it 17:54, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Help with photos and getting rid of "grey areas"

Please can anyone help me?

I've been posting several photos just lately, and the images are not displayed correctly. Grey bars have appeared. See for example St. Nicholas Monastery Church, Mesopotam

Rob Sherratt (talk) 23:41, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Rob Sherratt, welcome to the Teahouse. The problem is also in the original uploads like https:/upwiki/wikipedia/commons/8/85/The_Papas_of_Mesopotam_leading_the_dancing.jpg so the error is not introduced when our software scales them to smaller versions. Your uploads are exactly 5 MB: 5242880 bytes = 5 × 1024 × 1024. Something cuts off the images when they reach 5 MB. I don't know what it is but it's possible it's at your end. Others have uploaded larger files before and after. The limit is 100 MB. Do the images look OK right before you upload them? Are they above 5 MB? Can you try to upload with another browser or Internet connection? Or edit the images before upload so they are below 5 MB? You can use the link "Upload a new version of this file" on the pages with your existing uploads at commons:Special:ListFiles/Rob Sherratt. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:21, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi PrimeHunter, thank you for your welcome and for your advice. The original images are 6,094,223 bytes, and they are perfect. I believe the software fault is in the Wiki image uploader, it is not a browser-related issue since I have tried with several browsers. However, I will reduce the size of the images and "Upload a new version of this file" to work around the bug. Rob Sherratt (talk) 01:30, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

User:Rob Sherratt rejected?

Hi, I just had my user page rejected by Dan arndt There was no explanation what I had done wrong, I was doing my best ... There seems to be little or no guidance on what is expected in a user page ... Rob Sherratt (talk) 01:59, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

@Rob Sherratt: The decline reason is "bio - Submission is about a person not yet shown to meet notability guidelines". Read WP:N and WP:BLP. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 02:12, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Rob Sherratt, and welcome to the Teahouse. It appears that you created your user page using the article wizard. This is designed and intended to create drafts of articles that is, pages intended to eventually form part of the encyclopedia proper. Such a page need to establish the notability of the topic, using citations of reliable sources (See Wikipedia's Golden Rule.) To this end th4e wizard puts {{Userspace draft}} on the pages it creates in userspace.

However, your userpage seems to have been intended, quite properly, as a user page, that is, a page meant to describe a person as a Wikipedia editor, giving some idea of the person's background, interests, and possibly his or her accomplishments and plans in editing Wikipedia. My own user page is at User:DESiegel, for example. User pages need not, and indeed normally should not, cite sources or attempt to establish the notability of the editor.

The matter seems to have been corrected, and should you wish to restore the short "about" passage that you removed in a recent edit to the page, you are free to do so.

I hope this explanation clarifies matters a bit. DES <sup>(talk)</sup><sub>DESiegel Contribs</sub> 02:14, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

generating custom lists of articles.

Firstly: Is it possible to generate a list of articles according to the following criteria:

1. Page has 1 or less watchers and
2. Order by page view frequency over the last year with highest number of views first

Secondly: Where can I find some general info about making custom lists of articles? Many thanks Edaham (talk) 02:13, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Alternate account

This is an alternate account of my A 10 fireplane (talk · contribs) could you make sure I have done everything wright to avoid Sock puppetry A 10 iceplane (talk) 02:16, 23 May 2018 (UTC)