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Name Page

My name is Bencino Carmine, I had a wikepedia page created by whoever under the name Benny Ciaramello. I contracted folks and thankfully they moved the title to my correct name. However whenever you type my name in google, it will still show a “Benny Ciaramello” wimkepdia page and once you click on it, of course it’s updated. But it says “redirected from Benny Ciaramello” can someone please fix this. There shouldn’t be any “Benny Ciaramello” link to wikepedia at all. Or link to that specific pages I have no idea how to fix this and anyone’s help would be highly appreciated. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:387:8:F:0:0:0:82 (talk) 22:13, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello Bencino and welcome to the Teahouse. It takes time for Google to index pages, so it should start showing up correctly in the near future(I don't know exactly how long). 331dot (talk) 22:14, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

What's the story with the two names here? "Bencino Carmine" returns 680 Google results, versus 23,500 for "Benny Ciaramello". Usually, we go with the most commonly used name in the sources. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:24, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

IMDB offers yet another version of his name, "Benjamin Ciaramello". Maproom (talk) 08:17, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Presumably the person has decided to change his name. Both (all three) names need to be included, but I am not sure which one should be the article title. I'm not even sure the article should be kept at all - he doesn't really look like a notable actor. --bonadea contributions talk 09:32, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

How To Use Wikiscript

How do I use Wikiscript? What are the commands I can use? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samwikiuel (talk • contribs) 11:21, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Samwikiuel

Firstly, please sign all posts on talk pages with 4 tildes ( ~~~~ ) which will add your signature and a timestamp

As for your question - there are lots of commands - I suggest you start with Help:Wikitext, although there is also a useful summary at Help:Cheatsheet - if these raise further questions, please come back here and ask - Arjayay (talk) 11:26, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Biography

Hi everyone!

I'm having some trouble with the {biography} template. Especially the info box is giving me some problems. I would like to enter the country of the person I'm writing about. However, i immediately get a error that 'country' is a faulty parameter. Does someone know what I should do or which parameter I should use? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daphne.visser93 (talk • contribs) 13:37, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Greetings, @Daphne.visser93: Template:Biography apparently uses {{Infobox person}} for the infobox. The relevant parameters are |residence=, |nationality=, and |citizenship=. See the documentation at Template:Infobox person#Parameters for explanations of when each parameter should be used. Deor (talk) 13:57, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

View history - watchlist

Hi. Coming from Norwegian WP I am used to some practical functions there. When I click on the | hist) in my watchlist in Norwegian all the diffs I have not yet looked at will have a text added . . oppdatert siden mitt forrige besøk (.. updated since my last visit) and I can sort out what changes I have not yet looked at. I do not always look at changes right away and it is practical to be able to identify all the changes that have taken place since I last looked. I don't seem to be able to find a way to turn this functionality on in English. Is it possible at all? --ツ^ツDyveldi ^{☯ prat} _{✉ post} 17:19, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Dyveldi, and welcome to the Teahoiuse. I see such tags in page histories all the time on en wikipedia. I think if you go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist and choose the expanded watchlist, and go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and choose "Display green collapsible arrows and green bullets for changed pages in your watchlist, page history and recent changes" you will see this. But there may be other preference settings involved. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 18:51, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I needed to loose "Subtle update marker" and then I was able to read what was there. It was not a good idea to tick off everything. Your reading help, DES, is much appreciated.--ツ^ツDyveldi ^{☯ prat} _{✉ post} 19:07, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Eggs-actly how to create interwiki link to specific Wikiquote article section?

Bought a great new/old book, and immediately made a new section, Notebooks, for the insightful observation (esp. for an opium addict):

I lay too many Eggs ... with Ostrich Carelessness & Ostrich Oblivion.

of Samuel Taylor Coleridge on Wikiquote at Samuel Taylor Coleridge#Notebooks.

I carefully linked back to WP nest Coleridge's_notebooks. How best share the link love from WP with Template:Wikiquote back to the nest egg, ensuring no careless linkrot, tho' section name be "trod underfoot, & smashed"?

N.B. A score of his works with WP articles and ample Wikiquote sections could survive oblivion from such nurture. Is there not an automated solution?-- Paulscrawl (talk) 18:36, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Paulscrawl. You could for example produce the box to the right with this code:

{{Wikiquote|Samuel Taylor Coleridge#Notebooks|Samuel Taylor Coleridge's notebooks}}

I don't know Wikiquote policies. wikiquote:Template:Anchor can be used to make an anchor which keeps working if a section name is changed but the template is rarely used. If you use it to duplicate a current section name then it's possible another editor will notice the duplication and remove the template. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:42, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Creating link question

In the article Racial segregation, there are two subentries for the United States. I want to create a link to the second of these, the one under “Contemporary segregation”, but cannot figure out how. Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 14:59, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Deisenbe (talk · contribs). Do you mean this: Racial_segregation#Contemporary_segregation. Add a '#' symbol between the article title and section you want to link to. Then if you want to change the title of the wikilink, use a piped link.

Unfortunately that is not what I mean. I want a link to Racial segregation - Contemporary segregation - United States. deisenbe (talk) 15:28, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

I see. I think you can add an {{anchor}} to the section and link to that? Polyamorph (talk) 15:48, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

This Racial_segregation#RS-US works. Polyamorph (talk) 15:52, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. I had never heard of anchors. deisenbe (talk) 15:56, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Deisenbe, links to anchors also have an advantage over section links. If the name of a section is changed, which may happen in an article reorganization, the link will be broken, while a link to an anchor will not be. Simialrly if a different subsection with the same name is created earlier in the article, a section link will thereafter go to the new section, while the destination of an anchor link is unchanged. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 17:03, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

@Deisenbe: When there are two sections called "United States", the second can be linked with Racial segregation#United States 2. Clicking the section in the table of contents will reveal this in the url. But if the first "United States" section is renamed or removed then the link with " 2" will fail. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:50, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Meghan Markle

Please correct your references to Meghan Markle as a princess as she is not a princess . You have to be of royal blood to be called a princess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.201.170.145 (talk) 13:56, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, IP user, and welcome to the Teahouse. Comments about a particular article should go on that article's talk page. Click "Talk" at the top of the article to access it. That said, what matters is what independent reliable sources call her. 331dot (talk) 14:40, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

(ec) Though Talk:Meghan, Duchess of Sussex would be the correct place to ask this question, as she is the wife of a British Prince then she is technically a British Princess. Polyamorph (talk) 14:43, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Where is she called a princess? If you refer to Meghan, Duchess of Sussex being in Category:British princesses by marriage then some sources say her rank but not her title should be "princess by marriage of the United Kingdom, Great Britain and Northern Ireland".[1]. "princess by marriage" is apparently not the same as saying she is a princess. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:06, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Adding proper information with citations for verification.

Hello,

I am beside myself.... Seems like every time I add valid content with references, Chrissymad removed every single addition I make. What on earth am I doing wrong?? Following guidelines, citing other people as reference, and nothing.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by SteveLauryRep (talk • contribs) 20:17, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, SteveLauryRep. You were adding overtly promotional content, such as "Well known for his compelling style and arrangements, perhaps no track better illustrates these qualities than the selection Keeping the Faith, released in 1993", which was unreferenced. You were also adding a link to a commercial website that sells CDs. This type of editing violates the neutral point of view. In addition, your user name indicates that you are a PR person with a conflict of interest regarding Laury. Read about our mandatory Paid editing disclosure, and please comply in full. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:28, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

This editor has been blocked by another administrator. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:30, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

"Age" vs. "aged" in infobox

Does Wikipedia have a style guideline to govern whether to use "age" or "aged" in an infobox after a person's date of death? As an example: "Died August 27, 1981 (age 62)" or "Died August 27, 1981 (aged 62)"? I tried using my browser's search tool on the Manual of Style, but it did not find "aged" as a word unto itself (only at the ends of other words, such as "discouraged".) Eddie Blick (talk) 00:52, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Teblick, Welcome to Teahouse! {{Death year and age}} would produce (aged) which is commonly found in infobox. Do drop by if you have any other questions. Cheer! CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 01:14, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you,CASSIOPEIA ! I appreciate that clarification. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:26, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Teblick You are welcome and drop by anytime if you need any help. Cheers! CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 21:00, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

live water map, crowd sourced

I might be the only person scraping social media data for hydro epidemiology, so I'm having a lot of trouble siting anything. https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=15ECSnEzlpb7kYJFAkvE02sfzWKAgNt7X — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johncbbb (talk • contribs) 22:25, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Johncbbb, and welcome to Wikipedia. I'm not quite certain I understand what you want to say here, but I'm going to try to reply the best I can. Unfortunately, Wikipedia needs citations from reliable sources. One of our limitations is that we can't write about the things that others haven't properly written about before, but without that, our entire system for quality control would crash. /Julle (talk) 22:41, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

If this isn't an answer to your question, please state clearly what it is you want to ask us, and we'll do our best to help you. /Julle (talk) 22:44, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! can I site the theory of how something might be done, even if they're not talking about me specifically? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johncbbb (talk • contribs) 23:50, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Johncbbb. If you want to write an article about "Water crowd source remote sensing", then you must summarize what reliable, independent sources say about that specific topic, and provide references to those sources. Please read Your first article for lots of useful information. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:15, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Please also note, Johncbbb, that to refer to a reference is to "cite" it, while a place on the web (or any location) is a "site". This is an easy mistake to make, I have made it many times, but it can be a source of confusion, particularly here on Wikipedia where we talk about cites and citing things rather more often than most sites do.

Also, please sign your posts to talk and discussion pages with four tildes (~~~~). The software converts this to a link to your user page, or your custom\ signature if you set one up, and a time stamp. It helps keep discussions clear. Thank you. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 00:26, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Question

i am a new editor, are there any policies or things that i should know about? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rufus Rose (talk • contribs) 03:55, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Rufus Rose. Please familiarize yourself with our policies and guidelines. Also worth reading are Wikipedia's Five Pillars. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:03, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rufus Rose (talk • contribs) 04:11, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

@Rufus Rose: Please sign your name next time by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thanks. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 06:38, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! Rufus Rosè (talk) 06:43, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Use of photos found online

Hi all, I'm still new here, with just two articles published, and haven't fully got my head round where to search about the editing process and so on, so I thought I'd ask this here: I published the article on the architect Giovanni Bernasconi, and found some pictures of a building he designed here: http://photoprogulki.narod.ru/spb_por1.htm Can we just take these pictures from that website, or is there some approved procedure for such things? Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 14:50, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Benchik Pelmenchik - No, you cannot use them, as that web-page clearly states that it is copyright at the bottom of the page. Most publications no longer have to claim copyright, so we have to assume that they are copyright. unless they have a clear copyleft or other copyright free licence. This covers websites, books, magazines or any other areas of "publication" - Arjayay (talk) 14:55, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Benchik Pelmenchik: Most photographs you will find on the web are copyrighted and nonfree. Wikipedia does sometimes allow nonfree images to be used, but only under a restricted set of conditions that you can find at the nonfree content criteria. If these buildings are still standing (or, since the article is about the architect rather than the building, if any building he designed is still standing), nonfree images would fail criterion 1, since they would be replaceable by free content by someone taking a photo of the building and releasing it under a free license. You could take a look at Wikimedia Commons to see if someone already has done that, and if not, maybe you could try finding an editor who lives nearby to see if they'd be willing to do so. You can also ask the copyright holder of those images if they would be willing to release them under a free license such as CC-BY-SA, but they are of course free to refuse. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 14:58, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Wow, so quick! Many thanks, guys! I suspected it would be like that. I'll send a friend to go take some pics. :) Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 15:04, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

@Benchik Pelmenchik: Be aware that if you do send a friend to take the pictures, the copyright of those images will then reside with him/her. So the photographer would need to be the person who uploads them to Wikimedia Commons, not you. There'll be no problem them doing that, but it does make an extra task for them. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 15:43, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Ah now, looks like I'll have to purchase the copyright, with a few glasses of beer. ;) Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 17:28, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

It is worth bearing in mind that in some countries the copyright in photos of a building belongs to the owner of the copyright in the building itself, rather than to the photographer, see WP:Public domain#Photographs of buildings. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:23, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

new pages

i accidentally created two similar pages on my page and they are not articles yet, is there a way they can be deleted and I can start all over again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sportsstatsguy (talk • contribs) 10:18, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

As they're pages within your user space you can put {{db-u1}} on the pages, and a sysop will delete them. Alternatively, if all you want to do is rewrite them, just blank the page and start work on the new version. Richard⁰⁶¹² 10:48, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

My account

Hello. I have a Wikipedia account named Fft47hg. Yesterday I used it. Today, I went on Wikipedia and it was not logged in and I forgot my password. In logging in, if you forget your password, it asks for your email address. However, my email address isn't connected to Wikipedia. What should I do? 94.207.178.252 (talk) 10:30, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately not. Without an email address to send a new password to there's nothing that can be done. Richard⁰⁶¹² 10:52, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

You can try to recall your password. If you fail, you can create a new account, and post a link to it on the user and user talk pages of the old account, with an explanation. On your new account, you can enter an email address in your preferences, and confirm it. Then should a similar problem occur in future, you could do a password reset via email. You could also write down your password and keep it somewhere safe. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 12:01, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Malformed pages

Hi, is there are an easy way to fix article pages that have been malformed due to overlong horizontal tables such as Audi R8. Also does AWB work on ipad safari or ipad chrome? thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 15:29, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Atlantic306 - I don't see any issues with Audi R8 on my PC, do you mean the tables overlap/are malformed on mobile? Unfortunately AWB doesn't work on anything but Windows. You could try JWB, I've not used it in a mobile browser, but it's worth a try! Richard⁰⁶¹² 19:13, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

• Hi, thanks for your answer, on my ipad the page only displays at 80% due to a long horizontal table halfway down that extends into the extra 20%, its the same in portrait mode, am using desktop version, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 20:28, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I'll have a look on an iPad later today and see what can be done. Richard⁰⁶¹² 13:17, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Does anybody have some reliable sources for Kyle Lai-Fatt?

I am working on a draft. Does anybody have any reliable sources for YouTuber and Visual Concepts developer, Kyle Lai-Fatt? Thank you. Maude~Duggel (talk) 00:47, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to Teahouse, Maude~Duggel. In the submission declined box, there are some links which can help you to find sources (Find sources: "The Disney Brain" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · HighBeam · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · The Wikipedia Library · NYT · WP reference). Your submissions of the draft will be declined until he meets the requirements of WP:N. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 03:07, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I know that, but do you think he's mentioned in this VistaPrint reference? I'm not really sure, but when I googled his name up, this pops up and some Norwegian websites that has nothing to do with Brain. Thanks! Maude~Duggel (talk) 09:29, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

References

@Maude~Duggel: seems not. I suggest you to give up this article per WP:N. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:30, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Bio article

Within about 3 seconds of my submitting bio article it was rejected! Was that enough to time to even read it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aitreabh (talk • contribs)

Hi Aitreabh! Welcome to Wikipedia, we're very happy you want to help out here. You're writing a biography about a living person, but have not added any references. You need to show where the information is coming from, and that other, reliable sources have written in (some) depth about the person (that is, not just in passing). You can read more about reliable sources at Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. Please do follow up here if there's anything we can do to help you. /Julle (talk) 15:34, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

@Aitreabh: The decline [2] said "This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability." It's the fastest review I have seen but it only takes a second to see that the References section is empty. You can add references and resubmit. See Help:Referencing for beginners. See Wikipedia:Notability (people) for the criteria you should try to satisfy by giving references. Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Creative professionals mentions authors. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:45, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

@Aitreabh: See Tony Hoagland for an example of a referenced article about a living poet. David notMD (talk) 18:14, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Adding categories

Hi all, I just made this page here: Giuseppe Bernasconi and can't see how to add categories. Last few pages I did, there was something that came up automatically, asking me to add some categories, but I missed it here, somehow! Can anybody help a hapless novice? :D Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 18:49, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Benchik Pelmenchik - you add categories by placing [[Category:SomeCategoryHere]] at the bottom of the article. Please make sure to follow the guidelines on categorisation. Richard⁰⁶¹² 18:57, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks, Richard! I see somebody's already added one too! I'll get on to adding a few more right now. All the Best! Benchik Pelmenchik (talk) 18:59, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

How do I 'lock' editing on a page?

I would like to prevent vandals from messing with a page, how do I prevent them from being able to edit it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by A 10 fireplane (talk • contribs) 18:50, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi, A 10 fireplane, and welcome to the Teahouse! Pages are not locked per-emtpively. They are protected upon request if there is evidence that high levels of vandalism has already occurred. You can read all about it here: Wikipedia:Protection policy. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 18:53, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Some more info here: Pages can only be directly protected by administrators. If you think that a page needs to be protected, you can request this at WP:RFPP. More detailed information is covered in the link that Finnusertop provided. :)--SkyGazer 512 ^{What will you say? / What did I do?} 20:30, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

@SkyGazer 512: @Finnusertop: ok awesome, thank y'all for the help/information :) A 10 fireplane (talk) 20:11, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

How do add a picture?

I was trying to add a picture in a talk page for an article but I didn't know how. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erfson (talk • contribs) 22:11, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Erfson, welcome to our Teahouse. Before answering in further detail, could you just clarify whether you have already identified an image on Wikimedia Commons that you want to insert (which won't be a problem for you to add), is it an image you created and therefore own the copyright to, or is it an image you've found on the internet somewhere (which probably hasn't been released with a licence we can accept). Perhaps you could paste in a url to the image, and then we can guide you further? (I note you have recently asked elsewhere about using images from this website. As I see nothing there that releases any of those images under any licence we can accept, you should definitely not attempt to copy and upload these as they will very swiftly be deleted. I hope this helps, regards Nick Moyes (talk) 22:47, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Could I also recreate the diagram in a program such as notsbility and screenshot it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erfson (talk • contribs) 23:00, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

@Erfson: I don't fully understand your question.Is 'notsbility' a graphics package? I would give a cautious 'yes', but you would need to ensure you were still not breaching anyone's copyright. i.e. could you change the appearance of some diagram sufficiently for it to be your own work, rather than an obvious copy? If you can, then that might be fine. I have created maps or diagrams in PowerPoint and then saved a screenshot which I've then uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, from where it's easy to find the 'Use this file' link and copy and insert it into an article. I hope this is sufficient to assist you. In future, do please remember to sign every post on any talk page by simply typing four tildes at the end,like this: ~~~~ That will add your username and a timestamp. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:11, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Well I'm not an wholly experienced editor, My English might be broken and I hope my Message would be helpful to the others even those who don't know about uploading media contents, Hey @Erfson: At the time I used to upload 4 pictures on Wikipedia but got removed due to copyvios see there,I uploaded 3 pics but removed, even I put descriptions and details about owner of the pictures, If you want to add pictures, still needed to be careful about uploading media contents because some images could be copyrighted and not allowed by original author. For example, the article Alexa Bliss has title picture but with every detail that where, when, why, who and how captured. As link was provided here of maker.pro, I visited and checked that these pictures are owned/uploaded by Chetan Kumar, I don't know if you're talking about maker.pro website from where you want pictures to uploaded here. If yes then I hope that my message would be helpful to you and other editors. I try to help somebody if I see 1% trouble or problem, i.e why I wrote this message to help somebody Thank You. CK (talk) 22:00, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

perfectly good edit removed by someone who knows little or nothing about the subject.

Meh..Rafaels1979..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.228.42 (talk) 20:44, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, anonymous IP. You'll have to be more specific if you seek feedback and assistance here. The user you named has made no edits , nor have you. What article are you referring to? Am I missing something? Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:12, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

There is no Rafaels1979 with lowercase s. With uppercase S, Special:Contributions/RafaelS1979 shows too many edits to easily guess what the post is about. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:21, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

adding music

HOW DOES ONE ADD A SHORT MUSIC CLIP TO A WIKIPEDIA PAGE.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A FEW CLIPS (SOME LESS THAN A MINUTE; SOME TWO OR THREE MINUTES?) TO THE PAGE "KATHARINE VON BORA".

Moetapeega (talk) 01:59, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Moetapeega Hi, Welcome to Teahouse!. for sound clip, pls visit Help:Sound file markup where the file must be uploaded to either Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Commons and for music score, please visit Help:Score. Cheers! CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 02:11, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

But in either case, the copyright must be appropriate, Moetapeega, just as for an image. Either the music must be in the public domain, or have been explicitly licensed under an acceptable free licence; or all the criteria in non-free content criteria must be met. --ColinFine (talk) 08:55, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Picture upload format?

does a picture you want to upload have to be in a specific format? o_O Edith Edits Your Poor Mistakes (talk) 09:26, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Edith Edits Your Poor Mistakes - Please see Wikipedia:Preparing images for upload for the lists of preferred formats. and the allowed but "should be avoided" formats. If this raises any questions, please come back - Arjayay (talk) 09:38, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Edith Edits Your Poor Mistake: Hello, Welcome to Teahouse, for photographic pls use JPEG and for animated images pls use GIF. Pls convert to PNG format if uncompressed BMP and TIFF images are used.

Please read image use policy on images copyright and licensing prior upload the image. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 09:55, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Copyvio links

It appears that user Special:Contributions/WilsonPerez2 has added a lot of copyvio links (topcartoons.tv and b99.tv) to movie title pages - can someone more experienced look into this, thanks! --Janke | Talk 05:50, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

@Janke: Hi, Thank you. There are external link spams. Reverted and reported. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 10:14, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Need review help from members for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kankana_Banerjee

Hi Community,

I have almost followed every little instructions members suggested me on Teahouse community. 1. I have removed wikipedia links from citation and inserted into keywords as hyperlink 2. I have removed all keywords that are self promoting as cited by fellow members. 3. I have added citation wherever required and requested.

Also, my query is about what action is needed to be taken inorder to prove my neutral point of view as mentioned by my wikipedia members.

This article is very important to me as I have edited this article multiple number of times and willing to make further efforts to successfully publish it.

Regards Sarbavoum Bidhar — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarbadigital (talk • contribs) 09:10, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

I've looked at the draft and made some minor changes. Please note that citations should follow punctuation marks, not precede them. But the most serious problem with the draft is the lack of citations of reliable independent published sources with significant discussion of the subject, needed to establish that she is notable. I've checked most of the sources currently cited, and failed to find any which qualify. Which three do you believe do most to satisfy the criteria "independent" and "significant discussion"? Incidentally, there are far too may "External links". If you're planning to cite those sources, you should do so; otherwise, you should remove almost all of them. Maproom (talk) 10:03, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks and welcome Maproom for your edits and guidance. Well, Kankana Banerjee has many links that satisfy the criteria "independent" and "significant discussion". Here are some listed below from the article https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Singing-notes-of-melody/articleshow/259987.cms http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday-review/chennai-edition-of-akashvanis-sangeet-sammelan/article7765777.ece http://www.southasianoutlook.com/issues/2001/august/artiste_profile.htm https://www.thestatesman.com/supplements/candid-views-on-change-124781.html https://timesofindia.speakingtree.in/blog/sankat-mochan-hanuman-temple-varanasi http://www.itcsra.org/TributeMaestro.aspx?Tributeid=32

Note: Please, use ctrl+F and use Kankana Banerjee in the content search to find any mention about her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarbadigital (talk • contribs) 10:22, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Here and in article Talk, at the end of your comments type four of ~. That will add your signature to your comments. David notMD (talk) 11:27, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

How do I become an administrator?

Hello. I am Fft47hg and I was wondering how a user can become an administrator. When I become an extended confirmed user, I want to become one but there seems to be no such place to do so.Fft47hg (talk) 13:33, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

@Fft47hg:, welcome to the Teahouse. In order to become an administrator, a user has to place a request for adminship - there are no formal requirements for that, but in practice, you will have to have quite a lot of experience of editing Wikipedia. You must show that you have a thorough knowledge of the important policies, and the way to show it is by making constructive edits, writing article content, and participating in discussions. So please don't focus on becoming an admin for a while. Becoming extended confirmed means that you can do almost all the necessary tasks here anyway. --bonadea contributions talk 13:59, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

@Fft47hg: Specifically here. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:33, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

I think Wikipedia:Not now would have been a more appropriate link. Except for the first couple of years of this site, all admins have been users for at least a year (usually longer) before they become admins. I believe we'll see Half-Life before we see an exception to that trend. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:25, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

@Fft47hg: If you're looking to get involved in the 'maintenance' side of Wikipedia, as opposed to article-writing, there are lots of ways in which you can contribute without being an admin. For example, you can help to fight vandalism (see WP:CUV for some tips), or copyedit articles (see WP:COPYEDIT) to improve their grammar or spelling. There are a lot of editors (myself included) whose contributions are mainly this type of thing, and we provide a very valuable input to the project by doing this. Neiltonks (talk) 12:29, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Copyright question

I am trying to upload some images from a state archive, Florida Memory, to Wikimedia. Their statement of rights is:

https://www.floridamemory.com/photographiccollection/disclaimer.php

This does not seem to fit in any of the categories on the Wikimedia Upload Wizard, so I don’t know what to do. Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 17:18, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Deisenbe, and welcome to the Teahouse. That looks like an acceptable free license to me. I will look into exactly what tag should be used. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 18:44, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Any progress? deisenbe (talk) 14:06, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Template problem

Template:History of slavery in the United States says Washington D.C. and it should be changed to District of Columbia. The reason is that the District of Columbia was a separate political entity until 1871, when it was merged with the city of Washington. (I’m at work on an article on that.) The topic “History of Slavery in Washington D.C.” is misleading at best. It should be “History of Slavery in the District of Columbia” (which I’m thinking of writing). However, looking at the code, and I’ve never seen anything like this, I don’t know how to correct it. Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 14:04, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Deisenbe, and welcome to the Teahouse! To link to History of Slavery in the District of Columbia, all you would have to do is add DC = District of Columbia as a parameter anywhere in the template. However, I honestly am not sure how to make the text display as something different. I'll look into this further and try to fix it the best I can if I'm able to and some point, but there's probably someone more knowledgeable with the topic that can help you more.--SkyGazer 512 ^{What will you say? / What did I do?} 14:19, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

I will add an option to change the displayed text for Washington D.C. in {{United States topic}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:37, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Done [3], documented and applied to {{History of slavery in the United States}}.[4] PrimeHunter (talk) 14:49, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Error in the value for calculation density for Bangkok (Spanish)

The value for the population density is wrong. The value it currently shows is 0, which is wrong. I also believe the value for the city population is also wrong as well so it would be nice if it could get checked out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.198.51.241 (talk) 04:39, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

What article are you referring to, please? We aren't mind readers. General Ization ^Talk 04:42, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Apparently you're not referring to the article Bangkok, because it reports the population density as 5,300/km2 (14,000/sq mi). General Ization ^Talk

It seems you're referring to the article Bangkok at the Spanish Wikipedia, which shows the incorrect density. Please contact someone at that edition of Wikipedia to request a correction. This is the English Wikipedia. General Ization ^Talk 04:49, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

The Spanish article uses a template which pulls the area and population from Wikidata and uses it to compute the density. Wikidata unusually gave the area in square metre while the template assumed square kilometre. I have changed it at Wikidata [5] and purged es:Bangkok which now displays a sensible density. Other places may be affected by the same issue if Wikidata uses square metre. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:33, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Other places may be affected by the same issue if Wikidata uses square metre. Looks to be quite a bit, actually! [6] –FlyingAce^✈hello 15:02, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

I don't know Spanish but have posted to es:Template talk:Ficha de entidad subnacional#Wrong population densities. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:26, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

What's this?

What is this teahouse thing? Savage2001 (talk) 14:39, 21 May 2018 (UTC)Savage2001

Greetings, Savage2001. See Meta:Research:Teahouse/FAQ. Deor (talk) 15:40, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Notability

Hello there.

My article keeps coming up rejected due to notability requirements. I have linked in published awards recently, but it seems that regardless the page should fall under "Creative Professionals", photography, then line item 3, "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. 8 published books, press house published all with ISBN numbers, not self published, would seem to me to fall into this category. What else needs to be done? When resubmitting, is there somewhere that this can be noted? Any guidelines and help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lmandrell (talk • contribs) 16:09, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Lmandrell. Your username indicates that you may be the subject of the article. Please be aware that Wikipedia strongly discourages autobiographies. You have a conflict of interest and should edit with great caution. Simply being the author of eight books is inadequate to establish notability. What we need is significant coverage of this person and their body of work in several reliable, independent sources. In most cases for authors, this will be mutiple reviews written by professional book reviewers and published in reliable, independent sources. This excludes coverage by publishers, book sellers, random reader reviews, and anything generated by press releases. Please read Your first article for more information. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:26, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Gatherings of wikipedia editors -- do wikipedia people get together with others in their area? How would I find out about such gatherings?

Do wikipedia people get together with others in their area? How would I find out about such gatherings? Thanks in advance. Summertime4 (talk) 16:42, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Indeed they do, Summertime4! The Wikimedia Meta-Wiki has information on Meetups and Events for users of all Wikimedia projects, and the English Wikipedia has a page at Wikipedia:Meetup. clpo13_(talk) 16:52, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Citing references to websites

Hello! I am a complete newcomer to Wikipedia. I have created a new article - its on my sandbox - and I am struggling to understand the guidance on how to insert the citations (I'm using Visual Editor). All I need is to provide numbers in the text and ref list that take the reader to the specified site. Can anyone offer a very simple beginners' guide? Aspidistra1066 (talk) 16:52, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Help:Referencing for beginners includes a section on Using VisualEditor. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:59, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

deleting a redirect and creating a new article instead?

Hi Teahouse, I'm wondering how I should go about fixing an issue with a redirect. Right now, British Institute in Eastern Africa redirects to Neville Chittick, its first director, but I really think that the British Institute in Eastern Africa (BIEA) deserves its own page. I'd like to delete the redirect from Neville Chittick and then create a new page for the BIEA, but I'm not sure if this will result in speedy deletion issues or if I'll somehow be violating rules for dealing with redirects. I can start the BIEA article in my sandbox, and thus have it ready to go, but I'd like some advice before I proceed. Thanks! Ninafundisha (talk) 12:52, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

• @Ninafundisha: Feel free to replace the redirect with your article; there are no issues with doing that or any rules against it. Galobtter (pingó mió) 12:56, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Galobtter is right, Ninafundisha. But you should treat this as creating a new article, and start by reading Your first article if you haven't done so already. Unless you are confident that you can write an acceptable article on the first attempt, I would advise you to simply start a Draft Draft:British Institute in Eastern Africa, using the Article wizard. When a reviewer accepts your draft, they will handle moving it over the redirect. --ColinFine (talk) 17:01, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Possible contribution to Wikipedia pages on Margaret Thatcher, Thatcherism and neo-liberalism

hello,

I am an academic who, as part of a larger research project, commissioned a professional documentary film maker to produce a film about Margaret Thatcher (UK Prime Minister 1979-1990) and Thatcherism. The film is avaialble here:

https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/GenerationRight

If any one is interested, could they provide a link to it from Wikipedia's pages on Margaret Thatcher, Thatcherism, noe-liberalism, perhaps?

Many thanks,

Professor Stephen Farrall, University of Sheffield, UK — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephen Farrall (talk • contribs) 16:43, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Stephen Farrall. A link to the film might be appropriate if independent film reviewers have written that it provides new information or a unique perspective on Thatcher, especially if those reviewers are historians or Thatcher biographers. The best place to discuss it would be Talk: Margaret Thatcher. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:16, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

retrieve deleted draft

Hi, how do I retrieve a deleted draft? I created an article yesterday, it was not perfect, but I was under the impression that it may take up to 2 months to review it, and I will have time to edit it meanwhile. Well, it was deleted before I could do anything. I would like to continue working on it, and I think I can improve it. thanks.

```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klaustrofobia (talk • contribs) 21:17, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

@Klaustrofobia: Try WP:REFUND. I can't access the draft, as I don't have access to deleted things. As far as I can tell, though, it was similar to your user sandbox, which I can see. I might suggest removing the "mission" and "organizational structure" sections, they're not usually in articles. I don't think it should have been deleted so quickly (personally) but a lot of editors are rather zero-tolerance when it comes to G11. Although, I will ask, do you have a conflict of interest? -A lad insane (Channel 2) 22:25, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

Hello Klaustrofobia and welcome to the Teahouse.

It appears you also posted a {{help me}} request on your talk page and have been answered. It's better to select just one place to ask a given question rather than multiple places. If the emailed article did not show up in your email, you need to check that you have recorded the correct email address with WP, check your spam folder, etc, etc.

Please note that when a drat has been deleted for being too promotional, there are good reasons to start over entirely and not try to tweak the old draft into some semblance of compliance. — jmcgnh<sup>(talk) (contribs)</sup> 22:26, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Unfounded remark on page's reliability

Recently, unfounded remark on Wikipedia's page devoted to professor Miodrag Petkovic has appear in the form: "The topic of this article may not met Wikipedia notability guidance for academic." Regarding the conditions required for removing this incorrect comment, one should emphasize that there are even 9 (nine) reliable sources (of renowned world companies) that confirm the correctess of all presented data. This can be easily verified by "calling" the marked sources.

Consequently, respecting Wikipedia's and academic's rules, should the comments in the heading be removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cubercuber (talk • contribs) 22:45, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

@Cubercuber: For starters, you can cite (in the article) three or more professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources that are specifically about Petković but independent of and not dependent upon Petković. That would firmly establish that he does indeed meet our standards for notability. There are no sources independent of Petković in the article.

I see that that the article was started by Petković himself. Between that, how you've turned the piece into advertising for him, and how you refer to the notability question as "unfounded," I can only conclude you are Petković. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:58, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello Cubercuber and welcome to the Teahouse.

It seems you are confusing the concepts of verifiability and notability as they are used on Wikipedia. As Ian.thomson has pointed out, the standard for notability requires independent sources. Simply being verifiable is insufficient, all by itself, to establish notability. — jmcgnh<sup>(talk) (contribs)</sup> 23:05, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Actually, Ian.thomson, WP:ACADEMIC does not require that type of coverage. Many notable academics have no such coverage, and are notable because their research is widely cited by their peers. I have removed the notability tag. Cubercuber, the referencing needs to be improved, and the external links in the body are not appropriate and should be removed. Cullen<sup>328</sup> Let's discuss it 23:09, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

do all articles need references?

Do all Wikipedia articles need references? Why? Angela Maureen (talk) 09:32, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Basically, yes. Because verifiability is one of Wikipedia's key policies. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:08, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

A slightly longer explanation is that this is how our system of quality control works. A traditional encyclopedia could say "I, A, the write, say this is true, and I've been assigned to write this because I am an expert in my field. My editor, B, and publisher, C, also guarantee that this, to the best of their knowledge, is the truth". But we're an encyclopedia written by anonymous and pseudonymous persons. We can't rely on this. So we need the sources, because otherwise anyone could claim anything and we'd just have edit wars back and forth. /Julle (talk) 13:33, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello September 1988 and welcome to the Teahouse.

There are a few types of pages on WP that might still be considered articles but don't have a references section. These include list and disambiguation articles. Entries in these special articles are expected to be documented internally. That is to say, entries are generally "blue links", so they are documented in those destination articles.

The "why" part of your question is interesting. One of the tradeoffs of WP being an encyclopedia that "anyone can edit" means that the value or accuracy of an article is not derived from the authority of the author. Instead, the reliability of WP articles is based on ensuring that everything written is based on properly summarizing what is written in reliable, published sources. This approach sometimes frustrates experts, whose contribution here is welcome, but not if they expect to write out of their own authority. Instead, we value their expertise for knowing where the most reliable sources on a subject may be found. — jmcgnh<sup>(talk) (contribs)</sup> 15:01, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Another reason for the inclusion of sources is so that the reader can verify to their own satisfaction that something being asserted is something that they can accept. The reader might want to read the actual source material for verification. And they may also want to read the source material for additional information related to what is being asserted in the Wiki article. The reader's interests in a particular point may be wider than the more focussed assertion expressed in the Wiki article, thus they may have reason to consult a good quality source on a general topic. Bus stop (talk) 15:19, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

One more reason, September 1988: Because of its dynamic nature, schools will never allow a student to cite Wikipedia in a formal paper. Due to our virtually zero-cost business model, it's almost inevitable that at some point, we will put all the traditional paper encyclopedias out of business. We have a moral imparative to provide students with something they can cite. They cannot cite Wikipedia, but they can cite our sources. John from Idegon (talk) 23:29, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

How to create an info box?

How do I create an infobox on a page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Learningisthebest (talk • contribs) 23:40, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Search your category here and follow the instructions. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 00:09, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi,Learningisthebest Welcome to Teahouse! You could find here existing inboxes in Wikipedia which you could use. If you intend to insert an infobox to your Draft:Inspire Group page, then scroll to Business and economics and find a info box that suited for your use.

Note on your draft article - You did not cite the source correctly at the current stage. Please visit referencing for beginners on how to cite source in Wikipedia. Cheers! CASSIOPEIA<sup>(talk)</sup> 00:13, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Leaving messages on blocked users

Is there some spoken or unspoken guideline/rule/expectation regarding leaving messages on blocked users talk pages? Or am I free to leave them messages regardless? The Verified Cactus 100% 16:43, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello VerifiedCactus and welcome back to the Teahouse.

Blocked users may become unblocked. Leaving messages on the talk pages of a blocked user is allowed. While they may not be able to edit generally, they should still get notifications and - as many blocked users still have talk page access - may respond to you. (Talk page access is primarily to be used for unblock requests - abuse of the privilege may lead to loss of access). If a talk page has been blanked, however, that's usually a signal that there's no point leaving a message there. — jmcgnh<sup>(talk) (contribs)</sup> 17:39, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Understood, thank you. The Verified Cactus 100% 02:10, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Adding to the answer, VerifiedCactus, blocked editors are not free to engage in general discussions on their talk page while they are blocked. Their talk page is for understanding why they were blocked and requesting to be unblocked. Take a look at the duration of the block. If it is a 24 block, there is nothing wrong with saying, "After your block expires, can we discuss improving article X based on source Y?" If it is an indefinite block, then leave the editor alone. Their only options are exit from Wikipedia, or formulating a successful unblock request. Anything distracting is not helpful and may be perceived as disruptive by administrators. Cullen<sup>328</sup> Let's discuss it 02:30, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

My bad, I'll keep that in mind next time. The Verified Cactus 100% 02:46, 22 May 2018 (UTC)