User talk:Vexations/Archives/ 2

My article getting rejected

Hi. You rejected my article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Delphin_(greek_god)

The comment you put was: Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at Delphin (greek god) instead.We're never going to have two articles about the same subject. Sorry. However, this article doesn't exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Galaxywing01 (talk • contribs) 17:26, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

I made a copy/paste error, sorry. I meant Amphitrite. Vexations (talk) 18:13, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Joe's Basecamp speedy deletion

Hello, the article I wrote about Joe's Basecamp was speedily deleted and I'd really like to try again... I'm happy to make any changes needed to make it less promotional and am willing to follow any advice you have. I learned about it through researching Joe Bonington after I saw the film about his father. Unfortunately my editing history shows a frustrating time trying to fix Naveen Jain's page where I was wrongly accused of being an undisclosed paid editor, so I hope that didn't influence your decision... I'm very much here to contribute constructively (I already have a full time job) and just want to spread accessible and unbiased knowledge! My time is limited due to work constraints so Joe's Basecamp felt like a project I could keep coming back to because it's a 'next big thing'. People already travel there from other continents to train so I wanted to get in first... Who can I talk to for guidance in making the page more encyclopedic please?Trufflegoblin (talk) 15:05, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Trufflegoblin I would suggest that you start by gathering sources that are independent of the subject, cover the subject in-depth and are considered reliable. Please review our notability guidelines for organizations. Ideally, those are reputable peer-reviewed journals. Of course I know full well that such high-quality source are unlikely to exist for a gym, you should look for coverage in magazines and newspapers. Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL I don't think the North face stuff is usable, because it's a form of advertising or corporate sponsorship, not independent reporting. If you have questions about editing, the WP:TEAHOUSE is a great resource. As for Jain, I'm not involved, unfamiliar with the details, etc. so that did not influence my nomination. As for the "next big thing" and "travelling to other continents", as indications of notability: That seems like to wrong approach. You might want to review Wikipedia:Notability. All the best, Vexations (talk) 15:41, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:David Ogden Stiers

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:David Ogden Stiers. Legobot (talk) 04:26, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Your Request for Speedy Deletion of ShipRocked

There are any number of other music festivals (Download Festival, Memphis in May, Rock On The Range, etc) and music cruises/festivals (Holy Ship!, The Rock Boat, 70,000 Tons Of Metal, etc) listed in good standing on Wikipedia. The ShipRocked page was created to be no more than a simple, factual and historical accounting of the event's existence, history, past lineups, etc. Frankly, a number of the aforementioned pages would appear to have more promotional info/data by comparison. We have read Wikipedia's notability guideline for events, and do not see how the ShipRocked event page wouldn't qualify, especially considering it appears that other festivals, cruises and events, and the aforementioned pages do. We are open to whatever suggestions you may have to improve the page in your vision, but we respectfully request that you withdraw your request for speedy deletion. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ask4ent (talk • contribs) 04:21, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Ask4ent I'll make sure to look into promotional articles by your competitors and request their deletion too, if warranted. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising. It is troubling that you would think it is appropriate to use such articles as an example. For the sake of clarity, the articles discussed are Download Festival, Memphis in May, Rock on the Range, Holy Ship!, The Rock Boat, 70000 Tons of Metal.

Vexations (talk) 11:08, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Hattie Bartholomay article

Thank you!

Patricia M Harris (talk) 20:04, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Oksana Tanasiv Page

To clarify “we” - for creation of Oksana Tanasiv Page it is not used any kind of paid editors or paid contributors. Editorforart (talk) 07:02, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) But does it mean that more than one person is editing under the name "Editorforart"? PamD 17:37, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Poland

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Poland. Legobot (talk) 04:28, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Deletion discussion about Vinayak Nath

Deletion discussion about Vinayak Nath Hello, Shayaanahmadnoori,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Vinayak Nath should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vinayak Nath .

If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

Thanks,

Mduvekot (talk) 23:11, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

My comment Hi there, I have noticed that you have deleted the page. I am considering re-writing the article, since he is a notable figure, beyond his noble status and direct relations to the political and Government Family. I wanted to check it with you before doing so. His recent work are covered by renowned media and publication houses. Examples: TED [1] Times Of IndiaPress Reader Times Jobs Business WorldMediumDaily Hunt Plunge Business World IIM Lucknow IIT Kanpur TIE Lucknow Shayaanahmadnoori (talk) 09:09, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Mark Wright - Wikipedia Page

Hi Vexations,

You recently removed the page I published for Mark Wright (entrepreneur). I am Mark's Public Relations Manager.

In regards to the picture I included, the photo was taken by a professional photographer (Jordan Curtis Hughes). We do have the copyright for this photo, and it is used on our own website. However, I have redrafted the page again, however have chosen not to include this picture to avoid another speedy deletion.

We were also alerted that the content in the page is "promotional". It would be great if you could let us know how this content is "promotional". We have tried to ensure it is in keeping with other Apprentice winners (see Leah Totton and Susan Ma).

My colleague will be making some edits to the page once I've put it live [improving content and formatting], however I'd like to get this live next week.

Thank you in advance for your help.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards,

--Helenareid (talk) 16:26, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Helena Reid

Helenareid Sorry, but no. You must comply with Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure and refrain from editing articles directly where you have a conflict of interest. Make suggestions on the talk page instead and submit new articles for review via WP:AfC. For detailed information on how to manage your COI, see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. Vexations (talk) 16:56, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello,

In that case, I would like to suggest a new article to be written about Mark Wright (entrepreneur), to coincide with other winners.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helenareid (talk • contribs) 17:06, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Helenareid To request an article, go to Wikipedia:Requested articles. You might want to visit Wikipedia:WikiProject The Apprentice UK to see if anyone there is interested in your client, but I believe that project is defunct. You might also want to read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXIST, which explains that the fact that we host a lot of really low-quality articles or articles about non-notable subjects doesn't mean we require more of them. The examples you should look to are "Good" or "Featured" articles. For example, we have these "featured" articles about entrepreneurs: Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, William D. Boyce, Alan Shepard, Elwood Haynes, Madman Muntz, Lazare Ponticelli, Mark Kerry, Satoru Iwata, Derek Jeter, and these "good" articles: Asif Ali Zardari, Bill Gates, Dr. Dre, Sergey Brin, Agneta Matthes, Leo Frank, Oskar Schindler, John D. Rockefeller, Nicki Minaj, Paul Allen, Demi Lovato, Samuel Colt, Bruce Dickinson, Kakha Kaladze, Willie Nelson, Ronnie Barker, Sean Combs, Solange Knowles, Cindy McCain, Hina Rabbani Khar, Heather Mills, John Hancock, Penny Pritzker, Imelda Marcos, Rahm Emanuel, Jeffrey Pollack, Jeff Bezos, William Adam (architect), Mona Best, Paul Cornell (lawyer), Charles T. Hinde, Dan Borislow, Charles Allen Thomas, Danny Williams (politician), Charles Boycott, Evangelos Zappas, Ahmed Zayat, Charles Melville Hays, James Ludington, Michael Laucke. Vexations (talk) 17:53, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

NPR Bronze Award

		The New Page Reviewer's Bronze Award
		For over 1000 new page reviews in the last year, thank you very much for your help at New Pages Patrol! — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 00:13, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Francesca Grilli

Hello Vexations - thank you very much for reviewing my page about Francesca Grilli. I've added the citations needed and some categories. I guess I can delete the template messages, but I want to check with you first. Thanks a lot for your help!

Alesvias (talk) 17:03, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Alesavias  Done I removed them. Thanks for your contribution. Vexations (talk) 15:07, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Anna Barlik

Hi Vexations It's Rey Mirj and I'm writing you about Anna Barlik's page. Thank you so much for your time. I am new in Wikipedia so I don't understand everything perfectly but I'm doing my best. I totally understood your comment on my article, so could you move it as a draft so I will work on it more and find more references?

Regards. R M Rey Mirj (talk) 20:41, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Rey Mirj  Done The article is now at Draft:Anna_Barlik. Please let me know if I can help. Vexations (talk) 20:51, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I will come back to you with my future questions :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rey Mirj (talk • contribs) 20:53, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

George Grie

I would like to make a general observation, if you don't mind. The objections that you make are true perhaps, however in my view the general policies WP:ARTIST that you follow are quite outdated, to say the least. The polices that could be applied to traditional form of fine art, paintings, drawings, and graphics mostly. Not to digital art. All of them would be quite relevant, let's say 20 years ago. Not anymore. How would you describe a 60-year old artist today, is it still an “emerging artist”, or it is already an “obituary”? The artist who considers ground exhibition as a waste of time due to their poor attendance. The artist who refuses participation in solo or group exhibitions and give away his art for free in the internet. Subsequently he's not mentioned in all those pompous Biennales and Galls that you are looking for. Is he a notable person or just a fool? Perhaps both. Well, you know what… I think I am ready to give up…. it is such a waste of time. Pity… All the best! Artsgrie (talk) 00:53, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Carrie Underwood

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Carrie Underwood. Legobot (talk) 04:31, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Resilience in art

Hello,

Thank you for your intervention about resilience in art. In response, resilience in art is not the same as the Art Resilience movement, whose page has actually been removed. Both are part of the notion of Resilience which is studied in different disciplines. Here it is about art. Resilience in art was presented at the Congress "Resilience in the World of the Alive" 2016 in Marseille, France and will be presented in the "4th World Congress on Resilience" in June 2018 in Marseille, France. Best regards, AlexArago (talk) 14:14, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Do you agree that it is original research? Vexations (talk) 14:22, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

No, it is not original research. The résilience in art will bee presented also in the 4ème Word Congrss on Resilience Best regardsAlexArago (talk) 17:09, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

References

Nicole Chesney article

Hi Vexations - thanks for your suggestion on how to improve the Nicole Chesney article. This list of collections was included in Tina Oldknow's Collecting Contemporary Glass book along with other biographical and career info on Chesney. I cited that source at the end of the paragraph - would you suggest I provide citations from each of the museums' websites if possible? Another secondary source? Thanks in advance! extabulis (talk) 14:24, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi extabulis I always like to get the information from the museum itself, because often it gives you an opportunity to see the work. It is hard enough to include reproductions of contemporary artwork in a Wikipedia article, so I think such citations are welcome. If the collections are sourced to Collecting Contemporary Glass: Art and Design After 1990, that's fine, of course. Vexations (talk) 14:48, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! I'll do that where possible. Thanks for your help! extabulis (talk) 15:55, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Elke GERNS page

Hello, I trying to reply Vexations‘ message about my newly created page. Thank you for the advice. Wikipedia looks very complicated!! I spent hours this morning trying to figure out how to publish a page, so many symbols, all alien to me! The page wanted to be a brief biography of my mother - photographer from Germany, now deceased. Very brief, very simple, so that people can refer to, nothing biased, no ulterior motifs. She’s now deceased, it just wanted to be a very brief page to link to the Facebook page I created in her memory. I can’t soend any more time on Wikipedia trying to edit text only to have it taken fine soon after. Thank you for the advice, I think I’ll abandon the idea. Kind regards, Michela

Cocolinmichela (talk) 13:05, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Cocolinmichela I'm sorry that we can't be of assistance memorializing your mother. You might find this essay helpful in finding another place to host the material. If you want to abandon the page, simply remove all text. All the best, Vexations (talk) 13:14, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Culture Trip page

Hi Vexations. I'm not an advocate I'm an SEO manager at Culture Trip. I've added the required disclosure to my userpage in what I hope is the correct format. Please let me know if there is anything else I need to do. Thanks, Webbyyy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Webbyyy (talk • contribs) 21:52, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

As a user with a WP:COI, you should not be editing the article about your employer. I mean really, what were you thinking? That we're the Yellow Pages? Vexations (talk) 22:04, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

I created this page yesterday as the previous version no longer existed. If not an employee then who is best to create these kind of pages? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Webbyyy (talk • contribs) 08:50, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Thanks for reviewing Culture Trip, Vexations.

Unfortunately Anarchyte has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

I've declined the G4 speedy request. It may be smart to have another look or to have someone else take a look. The article is not identical to the AfD deleted one.

To reply, leave a comment on Anarchyte's talk page.

Anarchyte (work | talk) 10:33, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

@Largoplazo: You might be interested in this too. The discussion above does not instill me with hope, and I suggest going the route of AfD if you wish to seek deletion (and consensus might be there to just G11 it). Anarchyte (work | talk) 10:36, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

@Anarchyte:Thanks for the heads-up. Fair enough: G4 is always a blind nomination for us non-admins. I reserve it for cases where it looks like the article could still be materially the same as the one described by the old AFD based on the details and defects it sets forth. I see that Webbyyy did replace the inappropriate sources. One of the new ones has me scratching my head because the website is PhocusWire, and any website with "wire" in its name makes me think it's a bulletin board for press releases, but it isn't clear that this site is one of those. It is refreshing to see Webbyyy take my comments about the original sources to heart. I still don't see anything promotional about it, other than, possibly, the creator's intent in creating it, but that isn't what G11 refers to, that's a COI issue. Largoplazo (talk) 10:46, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Anarchyte Funny how that worked. I sent it to AfD with the Page Curation Tool, but that didn't work. See [2]. I think Largoplazo then tried to fix that botched AfD nom. (tx!) Page Curation has some issues with repeat AfDs it seems. This isn't the first time. I'll try again, with Twinkle this time. Vexations (talk) 10:50, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Ah, that explains it—a bug. I was surprised that you'd be putting up the tag manually. Yeah, I use Twinkle (I tried Page Curation for a while, didn't much care for it!) for deletions. Largoplazo (talk) 10:53, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Lesley Heller and Foley Gallery

I live in the Lower East Side of NY and am in the art world. I want to write about lower east side galleries and contribute to the lack of pages with them, because artists have pages. My pages are getting flagged.. am I using wikipedia wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juniordealer (talk • contribs) 19:55, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello Juniordealer Reviewers like myself look for clues to identify undisclosed paid editors and editors with a conflict of interest. Sometimes we make mistakes. If I made a mistake, my apologies. If you placed a notice on your user page that explains what you just told me, that would put your contributions in a context that makes them easier to assess. Or you could use what I use, User:Vexations/COI as an example. I flagged Foley gallery for two things, a likely CoI and notability. I'll remove the CoI tag. Articles about businesses need to meet our notability guidelines, WP:NCORP and I think (but I have not yet tried to find more sources) that Foley gallery does not do that. When you linked to Foley Gallery in Polixeni Papapetrou, you did exactly what we look for, create links between articles. Thanks. I don't see that anyone has commented on Lesley heller (which I'd move to Lesley Heller Gallery) yet, but I think that you'll need better sources than [3] and [4]. You may be interested in joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Visual arts. All the best, Vexations (talk) 20:27, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. I am new, so I apologize! I am just getting started and would enjoy helping out in the future. My plan was to expand from my area of NYC out. I noticed the only galleries up were the big ones like Gagosian and Zwirner and I aim to expand on contemporary art. I want to confirm working in contemporary art, but not FOR or even WITH these galleries is not a conflict of interest? Juniordealer (talk) 20:44, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Juniordealer Any Conflict of Interest can be managed. You don't have to say who you are. Nor do you have to disclose where you work, unless you get paid. If you have a relationship to a subject, you ought to be clear about that. We're trying to maintain a neutral point of view and people tend to find that difficult when writing about themselves, their fiends, clients or employers. Merely being a part of the artworld is not a CoI. I mean, just because I met Jeff Koons at a party once (true!) doesn't mean that I can't write about him. Check out the WP:TEAHOUSE if you have questions about editing. If you want to discuss what galleries are notable and why, I'm more than happy to help with that. It's a difficult subject to tackle. I'd try to find an angle that makes clear that a gallery has played a role in a change in art that is somehow important. Castelli was mattered because he gave artists like Serra their first shows, for example. We just summarize what secondary sources say, of course, so especially for newer galleries, it may be difficult to find such sources. Good luck. Vexations (talk) 21:09, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! Bravo. You have made it all so clear. I began with Foley as I live near them, and the recent death of Polixeni Papapetrou refreshed my memory to her work there years ago. I added additional citations and will aim to tackle one gallery a week. This is fun! Thank you for your hard work and keeping it neutral. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juniordealer (talk • contribs) 21:14, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Aromanticism

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Aromanticism. Legobot (talk) 04:26, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thanks so much for the speedy reply at the Teahouse! ⇒ Lucie Person (talk) 21:29, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Improvement article Airco Caravan

Hi Vexations! Thanks for your feedback on the article about Airco Caravan. I improved it and before removing the notification on the page, I would like to ask you if you could check it, if you have the time. Thank you in advance! Chantal Goddery (talk) 19:35, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Slavic spirits

Thank you for your interest shown for articles about Slavic spirits. I have been trying to sketch a way to put an order into all those small, badly written, and totally unsourced articles. I invite you to take part in the discussions which are unfolding here.--Eckhardt Etheling (talk) 13:19, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Sarah Paulson

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Sarah Paulson. Legobot (talk) 04:25, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Invasion of Privacy (album)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Invasion of Privacy (album). Legobot (talk) 04:26, 3 May 2018 (UTC)