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Joseph Aoun in 2018
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June 4

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Slovenian parliamentary election, 2018

Article: Slovenian parliamentary election, 2018 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the Slovenian parliamentary election the Slovenian Democratic Party wins the most seats. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: 99.9% of votes counted now. 10 different parties got seats in a PR system, so it's hard to declare a "winner" and the government formation (and new PM) might take a while. Article looks fairly good for the campaign coverage, just needs a bit of post-election stuff and a bit of a tidy in the tables. LukeSurl t c 11:13, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Omar Razzaz becomes Prime Minister of Jordan

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Articles: Omar Razzaz (talk · history · tag) and 2018 Jordanian protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Omar Razzaz becomes Prime Minister of Jordan after his predecessor resigns following widespread protests in Jordan against austerity measures. (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera
Credits:

Nominator's comments: News just breaking. Article isn't great. There doesn't seem to be a current article for his successor Omar al-RazzaLukeSurl t c 11:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Ammarpad: I don't see how your misinformed opinion has to do with this being news. The new government still has to be approved by an elected parliament, and can be also be dismissed by it. In any case it is still noteworthy as the protests are still ongoing. Makeandtoss (talk) 13:04, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional Support symbolic or not, this is still a head of government of a sovereign state. The new PM can use a few thousand bytes of prose though. Juxlos (talk) 14:50, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Jordan has been one of the quietest country in the Middle east so news coming out on government level is significant. Probably a signal that things are about to change for worst. Jordan is right smack in the middle of Middle east which is on fire so is on the news daily for quite a while. Its neighbor Syria and Saudi Arabia are in the middle of multiple crisis and wars. 45.116.232.57 (talk) 20:53, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Mustapha Akanbi

Article: Mustapha Akanbi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Nigerian jurist, head of the Independent Corrupt Practices Commission. Article appears to be OK. LukeSurl t c 08:11, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Volcán de Fuego eruption

Article: 2018 Volcán de Fuego eruption (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In Guatemala, Volcán de Fuego erupts, killing 7 people and forcing the closure of the La Aurora International Airport. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In Guatemala, Volcán de Fuego erupts, killing 38 people.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Twenty-five people have been killed and hundreds injured in the most violent eruption in decades in Guatemala.
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Nominator's comments: First deadly volcano eruption in 2 yearsEternalNomad (talk) 01:28, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. Would suggest bolding Volcán de Fuego, and giving updater credit to GWA88. Someone should also stay on top of the death toll, as the lava flow is currently headed towards a small town. (NorthernFalcon (talk) 01:31, 4 June 2018 (UTC))[reply]
  • Oppose for now. There's almost no prose about this eruption beyond a single sentence in a table, which imparts little more information than the blurb itself does. Would expect at least a paragraph, if not more, on this eruption, written in the main body of the article. --Jayron32 01:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I was originally going to state that I did not think the volcano's article merited more detail on this eruption than was currently listed, but as we're now up to 25 deaths, I'd say this eruption merits its own article and we ought to consider bolding that once it's been done. (NorthernFalcon (talk) 06:17, 4 June 2018 (UTC))[reply]
Comment Just started a separate article on the eruption at 2018 Volcán de Fuego eruption. Will work on expanding it. SounderBruce 06:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
WP:SOFIXIT. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 19:47, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Joe Berinson

Article: Joe Berinson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Obit
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian politician. Article seems adequate. LukeSurl t c 08:16, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose While a little more fleshed out compared to the nomination below, articles of politicians need to be more than a prose list of the positions occupied to merit an RD posting imo. The article needs to have information on what the subject did while in that position, notable policy changes, issues that the subject advocated for, major controversies, etc. SpencerT•C 13:20, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Álvaro Lapuerta

Article: Álvaro Lapuerta (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2] (Spanish)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Spanish politician. Article seems adequately referenced, though it is perhaps only just above stub-length. LukeSurl t c 08:19, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Nick Meglin

Article: Nick Meglin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American magazine editor. Article is probably just over stub size. LukeSurl t c 08:24, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

June 1

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RD: John Julius Norwich

Article: John Julius Norwich (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Daily Telegraph
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Norwich was a well-known historian who authored multiple books and hosted many television documentaries Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 19:01, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The image has now been removed. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 23:04, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) U.S.-North Korea summit

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Article: 2018 North Korea–United States summit (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ U.S. President Donald Trump announces that the North Korea-United States summit has been reinstated for June 12, 2018. (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: A momentous occasion (if it actually happens this time). WaltCip (talk) 18:55, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) Spanish prime minister

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Articles: Pedro Sánchez (Spanish politician) (talk · history · tag) and Mariano Rajoy (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Pedro Sánchez becomes Prime Minister of Spain after Mariano Rajoy loses a vote of no confidence. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Pedro Sánchez becomes Prime Minister of Spain after Mariano Rajoy loses a vote of no confidence.
News source(s): BBC, Guardian
Credits:

 KTC (talk) 10:00, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not ITNR but that's ok. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:53, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Premier of Pakistan changed

Article: Nasirul Mulk (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Nasirul Mulk is sworn in as Caretaker Prime Minister of Pakistan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Former Chief Justice of Pakistan Nasirul Mulk takes oath as 7th Caretaker Prime Minister of Pakistan.
News source(s): Geo News, The Express Tribune, The News International, Pakistan Today
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Gaining widespread media coverage. Plus change of head of state is also listed in ITNR. The article seems to be in good state. Amirk94391 (talk) 09:36, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Italian government formed

Article: 2018 Italian government formation (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ After months of negotiations, the Government of Change takes power in Italy with Giuseppe Conte as prime minister (Post)
Alternative blurb: Giuseppe Conte becomes Prime Minister of Italy, leading a coalition government after protracted negotiations
News source(s): e.g. [4] with lots of previous coverage [5]
Credits:

Article updated

 Banedon (talk) 07:09, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose the Government of Change article is not updated and forms a very important part of the blurb. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:15, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. The end of a long-running saga with important implications for the world's 8th largest economy. I've added an altblurb. Modest Genius talk 11:05, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I could support this. My only niggling concern is the amount of paragraphs beginning or infested with proseline (on xx March/April/May 2018...) in the highlighted article, though repetitive yet coherent English isn't a barrier for posting. Fuebaey (talk) 15:15, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - The new government will most likely put Italy in the Euro-critic camp, as in they will oppose certain rules and agreements currently being enforced within the EU, such as the sending migrants back and having plans that go against the fiscal/economic policies of the EU. Like Modest Genius said this will have quite some implications for the EU, and is a move away from ussual Italian politics from my understanding, henche why I support putting this on the frontpage. However, the article is quite sparse and needs a update. Dragnadh (talk) 17:29, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Definitely one of the most significant developments in recent European politics. Has been covered heavily by international media.--RaviC (talk) 22:48, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question we posted the election results back on March 9th, so is this government unexpected or did it just take longer than usual to form a shaky coalition that'll collapse in 18 months and force new elections? --LaserLegs (talk) 23:06, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
All of the pre-election alliances failed to reach a coalition, but the new alliance (which includes populists from across the political spectrum) was unexpected by many due to the differences in ideology. It does however have a stable majority in both houses of the Italian Parliament. --RaviC (talk) 23:27, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for clarifying. No comment on nom. --LaserLegs (talk) 00:14, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
By which time this would no longer be news? --RaviC (talk) 13:30, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Not ITN/R but that's ok. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:19, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Arkady Babchenko fakes death

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Article: Arkady Babchenko (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Russian journalist Arkady Babchenko fakes his own death, claiming a plot on his life (Post)
News source(s): See article or Google, e.g. [6]
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Was nominated as RD, now nominating as blurb since he didn't actually die but is making a lot of news regardless Banedon (talk) 02:05, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Equal Rights Amendment

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Article: Equal Rights Amendment (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Illinois becomes the 37th state to ratify Equal Rights Amendment to the United States Constitution. (Post)
StrikerforceTalk 01:29, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose A largely symbolic move with no real tangible effect. EternalNomad (talk) 01:56, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • 'I have reopened this with no prejudice to either side - ENOUGH. There needs to be a minimum standard for time open before closing. This particular nomination is total BS. I mean no negativity to you @Stephen: 29 minutes? C'mon! - Floydian τ ¢ 18:20, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Realistically, any long-term editor at ITN can recognize that this story has zero chance of being posted. It was a completely fair close. It is an interesting DYK, but not ITN. --Masem (t) 18:24, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • For reference, here is the comment that I left on Stephen's talk page regarding my rationale for nominating this as an ITN - With all due respect, I disagree with your comment on my ITN nomination. While the "deadline" for ratification has long since passed, there is a continued effort to ratify ERA. Congress extended the deadline previously and it is not inconceivable that this Congress, or any subsequent Congress, could choose to do the same, if a 38th state ratifies (which is the threshold for adoption into the U.S. Constitution). A common argument of opponents to ratification is just this, that the "deadline" passed 35 years ago, but the issue is still present and is significant. I would like to request that you reopen the ITN discussion on this matter. StrikerforceTalk 18:32, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per EternalNomad. Lepricavark (talk) 18:33, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:44, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
"Please do not ... add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. " --LaserLegs (talk) 18:46, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
OK, oppose because it's a meaningless gesture; the 38th state would be worth some consideration but this one is not. There's not even a news link to examine. I'd have supported the earlier snow close, but there apparently weren't enough oppose votes. Now there hopefully are. power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:47, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The Chicago Tribune article cited for the passage last night in Illinois doesn't qualify as "a news link to examine"? StrikerforceTalk 18:52, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Brazil nationwide strike (2)

Nominator's comments: Renominating the article; this time for "ongoing" since it's been more than a week. Other users and I have been improving it and correcting everything wrong and I believe it deserves to be in the main page. Criticism is welcome but please be specific. Alumnum (talk) 20:21, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose it's still in desperate need of a WP:COPYEDIT and I'm not going to do it for you by tagging the whole article. Here is an example "Another criminal act issue is being investigated by the Public Prosecutor's Office on abusive coercion techniques used by some protesters on some truck drivers to difficult the police work, such as dismantling the blockades by parking their trucks in difficult positions and keeping the fuel trucks out of reach.". That's one of many. I also take issue with the title. A "strike" is a work stoppage, but this is more like violent militias setting up illegal roadblocks. You might consider moving the article to 2018 labor unrest in Brazil or 2018 take over of Brazilian highways or something. Lastly, the article is a WP:PROSELINE mess of anecdotal incidents resulting from this on going criminal activity. Thank you for updating this article, but from a quality standpoint it's just not ready for the main page. --LaserLegs (talk) 23:34, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for the third (?) time. Just not good enough. The Rambling Man (talk) 05:23, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment According to Reuters it may be ending. The article needs copy-editing, I'll try to do so tomorrow. power~enwiki (π, ν) 05:29, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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RD: Dan Kneen

Article: Dan Kneen (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Sport, Evening Standard, The Guardian
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British motorcycle racer. Fuebaey (talk) 11:50, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Ortho and para-water separated for the first time

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Article: Spin isomers of hydrogen (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Ortho and para-water separated for the first time (Post)
News source(s): BBC
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Article needs updating
 Count Iblis (talk) 17:46, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose "Cool" science, but we have both quality issues, a lack of significant update to the article, and that at the core, that this is confirmation of what had been readily speculated about quantum properties of substances. (Eg if it were the discovery that water could have difference spin forms, that might be ITN-ish). --Masem (t) 17:58, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose not of worldwide significance.  Nixinova  T  C  20:03, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That's what they said about a lot of scientific discoveries at the time. HiLo48 (talk) 23:51, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Most viewers wouldn't even know what any of that means. Ortho and parawater? The article is also not nearly acceptable for ITN inclusion. The article also doesn't even mention this new development at all.  Nixinova  T  C  07:27, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, what a change of argument. I might agree with some of that. HiLo48 (talk) 07:40, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) Turkish currency and debt crisis, 2018

Article: Turkish currency and debt crisis, 2018 (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): Economist Foreign Policy Washington Post Ahval
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Nominator's comments: The Turkish currency and debt crisis is very much in the news and an economic development of major gravity, with international repercussions. The article is of high quality, covers the subject comprehensively and gives consideration and due weight to its many diverse aspects. 2A1ZA (talk) 10:31, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

weak oppose do not think worthy of ongoing. That said the stock market has been highly volatile, to say the least (uggh, if only I was trading there...).Lihaas (talk) 03:01, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The crisis in Turkey by its nature is a debt crisis now (triggered by the currency), and that debt crisis is certainly ongoing. Even the causes did not yet go away, for example deficits in trade respective current account are still exorbitant and climbing, see this news from today. -- 2A1ZA (talk) 12:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Even the lira started a new round of depreciation today, after the disastrous report on sharply deteriorating manufacturing conditions was released. See this news from today. Or this. -- 2A1ZA (talk) 18:24, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

May 29

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(Closed) RD: Arkady Babchenko

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Article: Arkady Babchenko (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Russian journalist critical of the government shot dead in Kiev. Article is short but fully referenced. Thryduulf (talk) 00:27, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Roseanne canceled

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Article: Roseanne (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The American Broadcasting Company cancels the revival of the television sitcom Roseanne after controversial remarks by Roseanne Barr regarding Valerie Jarrett. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, CNBC
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Article updated
Nominator's comments: Okay, hear me out. Usually celebrity says something dumb, celebrity apologizes, and nothing happens. This time, celebrity said something dumb, and the repercussions were swift and severe: ABC abruptly canceled the celebrity's television series, which had been a ratings juggernaut in its much-ballyhooed return. It's only entertainment news, and I'm not a fan of the show or the actress, but this seems important/interesting enough. --Bongwarrior (talk) 20:33, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That's just uncalled for. Acerbic or not, we're still talking about a human being here. Please try to remain constructive. 165.225.0.68 (talk) 20:59, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think the point is a reasonable one, if Roseanne had been murdered because of this, then the story would certainly be more newsworthy than simply "channel cancels show". The Rambling Man (talk) 21:04, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It would also be more newsworthy if she'd been given an estate on the moon. Instead, you are choosing to be deliberately unpleasant. Though it'd be even more newsworthy if you weren't, for once. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.225.0.68 (talk) 21:25, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional support Wasn't around nearly as long this time, but the return was hyped up (at least in North America) as the biggest comeback in television history. So if we mentioned the glorious new debut a few months ago, we should mention its inglorious new demise today. If we didn't, this would just seem weird. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:10, May 29, 2018 (UTC)
    We didn't. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:12, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm proud of us. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:15, May 29, 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose The blurb is something I'd expect to see on an entertainment website or social media clickbait. It is notable as a moment of here-today gone-tomorrow celebrity flare-up. It is not notable for a piece of actual news. doktorb wordsdeeds 21:34, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Liege shooting

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Article: 2018 Liège shooting (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Four people, including the gunman are killed in a shooting in Liege, Belgium. (Post)
News source(s): news.com.au
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Article updated
Nominator's comments: Unlike Ontario, this has deaths even if the number is "too little". Not that common in mainland Europe either.
Just occurred a little while ago, so article needs work. Lihaas (talk) 13:24, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
btw- more than doubled the page. Im just gonna add the infobox, someone else then should come through.Lihaas (talk) 13:15, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know how much "background" can be written about a guy who went crazy during his day parole from prison. Shouting "Allahu Akbar" doesn't automatically make someone a terrorist, and with a name like "Benjamin Herman" I rather doubt he's a Syrian refugee. Infobox or not, there isn't much meat to the article because there isn't much known. Wikipedia does it's best work when quality and informative articles are featured on the main page. --LaserLegs (talk) 13:27, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@LaserLegs: - yep. I for one am aware of that, having read the essay extensively. It is helpful as a guide to exactly what thresholds and precedents have been applied in the past, as most of that logic holds. Based on those precedents, I feel that posting this would be ill-advised. The essay works in the absence of fixed rules, and thanks to Everymorning for compiling it, even if this wasn't their intended use. Stormy clouds (talk) 15:25, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Also, WP:MINIMUMDEATHS is not something we should be legitimising or following. It's a list of cherry-picked examples and statements which carry no weight whatsoever. It is not part of the ITN criteria. Modest Genius talk 18:09, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
True, but in this specific case I feel that all of the examples listed only serve to highlight the significance of this item, and how it falls below the threshold required for posting. Stormy clouds (talk) 18:29, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
We make decisions on whether or not to post on an extra-criterion basis all the time.--WaltCip (talk) 18:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
What's the "required threshold"? You've already acknowledged that the essay is "a list of cherry-picked examples and statements which carry no weight whatsoever. It is not part of the ITN criteria.". So what is the weight carrying ITN criteria? --LaserLegs (talk) 18:46, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@LaserLegs: - the required threshold is the level of notability and impact which must be reached by an item to, in my view, merit posting as an ITN item, and I personally derive it from a wide variety of variables. It is fully compliant with the ITN criteria, without being an explicit part. There is simply too much news worldwide to contain in a box with a mere five sentences, so we need to choose items based on their significance to our readership. As such, using a threshold of some description is necessary, or else we would descend into a meaningless ticker, or WikiNews. Either we accept that decisions must be made, or we abandon ITN altogether. I choose the former. Stormy clouds (talk) 19:48, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Nipah Virus

Article: Nipah virus infection (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Nipah virus kills more than a dozen in the Indian state of Kerala. (Post)
News source(s): Yahoo News
Credits:
Article updated

Nominator's comments: It has an article now so nominating again. 30,000 views on Wikipedia. Sherenk1 (talk) 03:47, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

... but it might make the article suitable for WP:DYK. Modest Genius talk 17:33, 30 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Cornelia Frances

Article: Cornelia Frances (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian actress. Referencing issues. Sherenk1 (talk) 04:01, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

May 28

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

RD: Serge Dassault

Article: Serge Dassault (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article is borderline. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:02, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose 5 [citation needed] tags, one reference just links to the French wiki with a [user-generated source] tag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nixinova (talkcontribs)

(Posted) RD: Neale Cooper

Article: Neale Cooper (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article is in pretty good condition. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:30, 28 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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