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Chris Sandow (rugby league)
Hello there, Oshwah.
I’ve noticed that the Chris Sandow (rugby league) Wikipedia page has come in for somewhat a slight bit of disruptive editing as of late.
Now, I’d love to give the page a complete ‘head to toe’ edit, with everything looking as close to perfect as possible, because at the moment it’s slightly untidy.
But I’m reluctant, like I’ve said it appears to be the target of childish, silly and just plain stupid edits from people, mainly anonymous users that are just trying to be disruptive.
Is there any reasonable cause to ban persistent anonymous users' IP addresses and that of registered users, if they continue to be disruptive?
Thanks a lot,
ScottJohnSexton. ScottJohnSexton (talk) 19:18, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hi ScottJohnSexton! Thanks for leaving me a message with your questions and concerns. Don't worry about disruptive editing and vandalism by other users. If this happens, revert the disruption and go about your business. If it occurs repeatedly by the same user, report the user to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism and we'll take care of it. Vandalism and other disruption is very easy to undo and revert; don't let yourself think that you can't or shouldn't improve an article and improve Wikipedia just because of the potential for disruption. Your good work is never truly gone and can easily be restored from the article's history page. If you run into any more questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to message me and let me know. I'll be more than happy to help you with anything that you need. I just took a look at the article's history page and it looks like you've been doing a lot of work on the article - excellent! Thanks for helping to improve the article! Your work is very much appreciated! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:17, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Please help Mongolian Beef
That user is always ignoring whether he is using which Wikipedia, and he always comments in a mixture of Chinese and English in Chinese Wikipedia, and creates a lot of conflicts. I guess he also makes conflicts here, so please help for always reminding him, many thanks. Sænmōsà 02:52, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Deleting unreliable sources is not "creating conflicts". And no, I did not "make conflicts" here.--Mongolian Beef (talk) 06:35, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Mongolian Beef: However, you are still banned by a bureaucrat there. You shall look at previous talk and look at the consensus made in zh:Talk:崔永元#关于涉及徐勇凌段落. I don't really think taht you are a good user, maybe I shall use "typical" to describe you. (Of course, I am also typical, and I don't have many edits here, but it cannot represent anything.) Sænmōsà 07:30, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Oshwah: Please also see the edit summary of Special:diff/839522838, it lacks civilization. Sænmōsà 07:45, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Said the guy who was blocked multiple times on Chinese Wikipedia for using sockpuppets (the latest being 6 months). I don't know how you can accuse a user with a blank block log being a bad user while having multiple block record yourself. That's more "typical", am I right? :) --Mongolian Beef (talk) 08:33, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Mongolian Beef, please note that "Civility is part of Wikipedia's code of conduct and one of its five pillars", from WP:CIVIL, thanks.---Wikaviani (talk) 08:40, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Said the guy who was blocked multiple times on Chinese Wikipedia for using sockpuppets (the latest being 6 months). I don't know how you can accuse a user with a blank block log being a bad user while having multiple block record yourself. That's more "typical", am I right? :) --Mongolian Beef (talk) 08:33, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sanmosa - The ban you're talking about - whether or not it's true - has nothing to do with the English Wikipedia. I don't understand what you mean when you say that Mongolian Beef is creating "conflicts", and I see that the ANI discussion you opened about Mongolian Beef was quickly closed. If there's a content dispute or disagreement on the article, you and Mongolian Beef need to discuss this on the article's talk page and follow Wikipedia's dispute resolution protocol. Mongolian Beef, let's keep edit summaries civil and refrain from adding rude or uncivil edit summaries - they're only going to exacerbate the situation and make things worse, not better :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:24, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
your email
i need a wiki page article done. whats your email id — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.32.193.94 (talk) 08:17, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I don't create articles for other users like this and for many reasons. Why not create an account, go through Wikipedia's new user tutorial, and use Wikipedia's articles for creation help page to create the article yourself? :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:28, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Just for you....
If after relentless challenges by editors who just don't appreciate your hairstyle, or how you've managed to keep it all by exercising |
- HAHA! Thank you for the kind award, Atsme - that made me laugh :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:48, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Your recent edit
Hello, sorry to bother you, but I have recently made an edit here, which you reverted today. I believe the revert wasn't necessary - what I have added was a person's Twitch.tv page, which, for the streamers (including this person), also acts as a traditional "personal website" (they often include personal information on it, as well as links to their other social media/contact information).Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom (talk) 22:16, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom! My goal when editing the article was simply to clean up and remove unneeded and unreferenced content - I didn't think the link was necessary, but I could have very well been wrong. No problem - thanks for putting it back :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:24, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, that's what I thought and I already corrected it, so no problem ;-) And thanks for adding a protection to this article - it really needed that.Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom (talk) 01:36, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom - Oh yeah, it definitely did ;-). Thanks for letting me know about the link removal and for fixing it, and don't hesitate to message me if you need anything. I'll be happy to help. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:39, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, that's what I thought and I already corrected it, so no problem ;-) And thanks for adding a protection to this article - it really needed that.Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom (talk) 01:36, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
You've got mail
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- Received and replied. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:49, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Revdel
If you go way back on [REDACTED - Oshwah] can you revdel [REDACTED - Oshwah]?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 23:38, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Sure, can you email me the diffs where the information was added and removed from both pages? That's a lot of edits to go through and look for... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:42, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
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- If this notification is about a reply you made to an email thread you started previous, there's no need to leave another notification (unless it's urgent - in that case, say so). Just leave a new email notification if you're starting a brand new email thread or conversation ;-). I'll take a look at my inbox shortly... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for protecting SoundCloud rap
One question. Can small=yes be changed to small=no? I would like to invite editors more clearly to come to talk page. (so they would also see the list of artists that have already been declined) I'm not sure if I'm allowed to make that change myself. Alexis Jazz (talk) 23:56, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Alexis Jazz! That's completely fine - go ahead and change it if you think it'll help draw discussion on the article's talk page. Let me know if you have any more questions or need anything else and I'll be happy to help. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:38, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. At least part of the edits made by IP users seem to be in good faith (but that doesn't make them any less disruptive), so their suggestions are welcome on the talk page. The protection wasn't so much for real vandalism but more because it felt like a few experienced editors were babysitting a dozen IP users who kept climbing out of their playpen. Alexis Jazz (talk) 01:01, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Alexis Jazz - No problem; even edits made in good faith can become disruptive if they're repeated by someone and no efforts to listen and try and learn or improve are being made. It's good that you're making the effort to side on good faith by assumption and to try and make things easier for those that are doing so - keep up the good work :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:06, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks. At least part of the edits made by IP users seem to be in good faith (but that doesn't make them any less disruptive), so their suggestions are welcome on the talk page. The protection wasn't so much for real vandalism but more because it felt like a few experienced editors were babysitting a dozen IP users who kept climbing out of their playpen. Alexis Jazz (talk) 01:01, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
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- Echoing the same response as I made above to your last email notification (if this is what you're notifying me of) ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:32, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- NopeThegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:33, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- I responded to your email. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Revdel
Can you revdel [REDACTED - Oshwah]?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:20, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - You need to email rev del requests to me privately. Don't post them here and in public where others will be drawn to it and can then go read what you're talking about. Sure, I'll take a look. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:28, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Can you check a email I sent you?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:28, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Just did; see reply. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- The recent revisions on that page have been redacted. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:27, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Can you check a email I sent you?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:28, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Dirty Bomb page
Hey, ranked mode is no more since prelast update, also there is wrong information about release. Game was not released yet. It public beta version — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.235.186.189 (talk) 01:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! Your removal of content wasn't proper, nor did you cite any reliable sources in-line that verified your changes to be accurate and true, and that this portion of the game is no longer available. Instead of removing the content entirely, it should remain on the article and instead be worded in a historical manner. Then, at the end of the section, add details that state that the mode was once available but was then removed and with reliable sources cited in-line with the content. If you need help with this, refer to the two links I provided here in this response. If you still have questions after reading through those guideline pages, let me know and I'll be happy to answer your questions and help you. Thanks for the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:36, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Societe de transport de l'Outaouais
I was trying to edit the CEO for the Societe de transport de l'Outaouais. Giles Carpentier is no longer the president of the STO it's now Myriam Nadeau
and I have reliable sources here (if you know a little bit of french)
https://www.gatineau.ca/portail/default.aspx?p=la_ville/conseil_municipal/district_11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZoNVhATQdo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.101.131.204 (talk) 02:05, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! You just need to cite your references in-line with your changes. Once you do this, your edit will be a big improvement compared to your previous ones (that didn't cite references at all). Refer to the link I provided here for help with doing this. If you have any more questions after reviewing the guideline page I linked you, let me know and I'll be happy to help. Thanks for the message, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:11, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
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- Thanks, taken care of. Oh, and unless the message must be kept private (rev del requests, personal information, things like that)... they can generally just be asked here. You didn't need to email me privately about this matter ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:20, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Yea, Sorry!Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:26, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
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- Replied, and for the record this didn't need to be an email. Messages like these can be left here on my user talk page ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:30, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
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- Replied, and for the record this didn't need to be an email. Messages like these can be left here on my user talk page ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:30, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- I am very sorry Oshwah.Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:39, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - No apologies are needed :-). It's just easier for me to respond publicly to messages here than through email. Plus, messages that don't require privacy should be make on Wikipedia by principle... it's how we're supposed to discuss things by default. Other users and admins won't be able to offer assistance or chime in with their knowledge of a possible issue if things aren't discussed publicly ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:43, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- I am very sorry Oshwah.Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:39, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
A cup of coffee for you!
Thank you for your Help! Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:27, 15 June 2018 (UTC) |
- Thegooduser - No problem; it's what I'm here to do :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:30, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Sock?
18:15, 14 June 2018 User account Peter1169 (talk | contribs) was created by Katsuracutlery (talk | contribs) (Blocked username) Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:59, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Never mindThegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:00, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Nope, that account creation is fine. The parent account was soft-blocked due to their username. They were just following instructions and creating another account :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:03, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Just realized after I posted this post on your talk page. Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:04, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Did you get my ping?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:04, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Just realized after I posted this post on your talk page. Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:04, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Question
Can admins block admins?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:05, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Yes, that has happened already. Even at least once in the past week. byteflush Talk 03:11, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- I post too much on Oshwah's talk page.... (not saying Rev Del is bad By the way) Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:12, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- @Thegooduser: And now I'm doing that too. =) Seriously, no, what I posted on your talk page is, as I said, just an FYI if you need something RevDel'd quickly, along with more info on types of RevDel, what you should do about them, etc. Oshwah is a very friendly admin, and he can speak for himself, but I don't think you're annoying him. However, I guess an admin already has a lot to do, so in order for the burden of administrative tasks to be split - in my opinion, it's better to look for some other venue where the first admin that notices the problem (or a question) can react. As I mentioned before - this is Oshwah's talk page, he can answer this himself, I'm just stating my view - which could (of course) be wrong. =) byteflush Talk 03:23, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Byteflush - Indeed. It was a very recent ArbCom case as well ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:16, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- I post too much on Oshwah's talk page.... (not saying Rev Del is bad By the way) Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:12, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Yes, admins can block any account - including other admins. Admins can also unblock themselves, but it is disallowed per policy if the block was applied by another admin. It would result in a removal of admin rights if someone did that - no question about it. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:15, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Thegooduser: you can find more standard permissions in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/refs/changes/79/432279/1/includes/DefaultSettings.php. If you search that page for "unblockself" you will see some permissions sysops have like ipblock-exempt and editprotected. Note that Wikipedia or any other wiki can have a somewhat different configuration. Alexis Jazz (talk) 03:24, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- On the subject of admins and being IP block exempt: note that admins only have a subset of those rights - editing from Tor exit nodes require the torunblocked right, which is only included in the IP block exemption group. It is not included with the Administrator or Bot user groups automatically. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:46, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Adding archive bot
Hello, sorry to bother you again, I was trying to add a bot to archive a talk page with extremely old (and not useful anymore, based on their content) posts. Basically I set it to archive anything older than 90 days. Not sure if I set it up correctly, so if you (or anyone else) have time - I'd appreciate if you'd check to see if everything is correct.Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom (talk) 03:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Looks fine to me (though, a second opinion would be useful). MiszaBot usually archives around midnight-2am UTC, so that's when we'll know. =)
- Edit: I have tweaked the settings a bit - it should always leave 3 threads, and I upped the timing to 120 days, since it's not such a frequently-edited talk page. Feel free to change those, though. byteflush Talk 03:44, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom - Byteflush is correct. This bot only runs once every 24 hours and will perform the archiving task for you at that time. It doesn't automatically detect when posts grow past the given age and then archive them immediately; that would cost a ridiculous amount of server resources if that were allowed or supported.... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:50, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you both for answering and yea, the corrected settings look to be better than what I originally set it to.Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom (talk) 03:52, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:55, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you both for answering and yea, the corrected settings look to be better than what I originally set it to.Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom (talk) 03:52, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom - Byteflush is correct. This bot only runs once every 24 hours and will perform the archiving task for you at that time. It doesn't automatically detect when posts grow past the given age and then archive them immediately; that would cost a ridiculous amount of server resources if that were allowed or supported.... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:50, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Adding a reference citation
Hi Oshwah, how do I add a citation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.35.15.11 (talk) 04:44, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- (by talk reader) See WP:CITE. Chris Troutman (talk) 04:50, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message with your question. See this guideline page for in-depth information on how to do this. In a nutshell, you'll add <ref></ref> tags on each side of what you are going to cite in-line as a reference and you'll do this next to the content you're adding to the article. You'll also want to read this section (as an example) where you can use a template inside of the ref tags to have the information that should be included in a reference formatted for you - this template formats a reference that is a web page. I went ahead and created example of how to add a reference for you below:
Example of adding a reference
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- Again, you'll want to refer to that guideline page for the information you're looking for, but in a nutshell - it's not too bad. Let me know if you have any questions after reading through the page I linked you to above, and I'll be happy to answer them. I wish you a great rest of your day and happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:52, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Dr K.s ANI post
Thanks for tidying up the SPI and block notes for me, much appreciated! Yunshui 雲水 07:12, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Yunshui - You bet; always happy to lend a hand ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:17, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Mario's frangoulis birth year
Hi from Greece! The birth year change is based in the interview (in Greek) that I cited in which he definitely states that in his first role in Dec 1988 he was 23 years old and that his birthday is Dec 18.46.103.9.19 (talk) 08:00, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hi there! I see that you've updated the article to include the reference - perfect! That's all that was needed! Thanks for doing that :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:02, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Revdel
Could you revdel from [1] to [2] as a cpvio of [3] — FR + 08:08, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 08:20, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
[[User talk:[REDACTED - Oshwah]]]
You may also want to revoke talk page access on this one.--Cahk (talk) 08:21, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Against providing false information about paswan
Hello sir, You have reverted my last edit about paswan. I was providing true information about paswan. Paswans are not untouchables they are only included in scheduled caste due to their poverty or illetracy. So please accept my changes on Paswan.SiddharthArya123210 (talk) 08:35, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- SiddharthArya123210 - I responded to your message that you left on Sitush's user talk page. The content you added to Paswan wasn't referenced by any sources, and the removal of your changes was justified. You've been warned for edit warring and repeatedly adding unreferenced content; this behavior is disruptive. You should discuss the changes on the article's talk page. I highly recommend that you review the notices that have been left on your user talk page, review the policies and guidelines that these warnings reference, and make sure that you understand them. If you have questions after reviewing these policy / guideline pages, let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for the message - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:40, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, yeah, you made this edit on Paswan : [4], but provided no source for it. Regards.---Wikaviani (talk) 08:44, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Yo stop changing my post
Bro stop changing my edit.... Red is not an official color of vista high school. Dont believe me read the almamater painted in the gym. It clearly starts off with "all hail the black and white" red is at best an alternate color. The only reason it was adopted was because of the coach dick hanes which the stadium is now named after. He adopted Nebraska football almost in its entirety from the offensive and defensive playbook to the jerseys he even stole there motto "go big red" the reason he did the color change was to revamp the gailing program into a new era. I know waaaaaaaaaaay more than you when it comes to this so please stop jerking me around. I would cite all this info but wiki wont let me post the websites. Go do some research ig you dont believe me — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.115.236.168 (talk) 09:08, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Before you run at people with guns blazing like this (lol), all you need to do is find a reliable source that will verify that your changes are true and accurate and cite it in-line with your edit. If you do this, you'll be set to go. Give these pages a read and let me know if you have any questions. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:12, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Hardly guns blazing
If i went in trying to be malicious or guns blazing I would have called you burnt or a pleb or captain autismo but i didn't. All i said was stop changing my post and if you dont believe me do the research. Pretty harmless dawg... Anyways I'm over trying to change it at this point. Since ur admin account is connected to this page im assuming ur an alumni. I could be wrong but I doubt it. That being said you shoukd know ur alma mater — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.115.236.168 (talk) 09:31, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Uhh nope... I've never been to that school at all :-). Like I said above; all you need to do is reference a source with your changes and you'll be all set. The burden of proof lies with the user who is adding or modifying the content, not the user who is removing or undoing the changes and asking for a reference. If you need help, let me know and I'll be happy to do so. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:47, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for the thanks. :) Recently just started using Twinkle. TheConnorMan (talk) 09:46, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- TheConnorMan - No problem! Awesome - keep up the excellent work! Your time and work doesn't go unnoticed and it's appreciated here! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:55, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Here is your source
www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-prep-football-north-county-football-changed-2010sep02-story,amp.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.115.236.168 (talk) 12:05, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Great - I've made the edit for you here. This is what you were supposed to do (add the URL as a reference per this guideline page), and why your previous edits were reverted - you didn't support the change with a source. All fixed now! Thanks for following up with me and for working with me to improve the article :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:17, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Mongolian Beef again, not because of articles
See the edit summary of Special:diff/845951369, it is totally offensive and rude. Sænmōsà 14:04, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Please also delete the edit summary of Special:diff/839522838, with the same reason. Sænmōsà 14:05, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Minor note: he was already blocked because of the same reason. Sænmōsà 14:09, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sanmosa - I agree that many of Mongolian Beef's edit summaries toward you on his user talk page are a bit uncivil, but why not just respect his wishes and just leave the guy alone? Why do you need to persistently report the uncivil comments and keep pressing on about it? The ANI report you opened yesterday was closed shortly afterwards, and I'm sure is just adding more fuel to the fire between you two. The edit summaries you listed do not qualify for revision deletion and cannot be removed. What is all of this about and what exactly would you like to see happen? (I'm not asking rhetorically here; I'd actually like to know). Don't get me wrong: I'm a big proponent of civility and being respectful to one another, and I've applied civility blocks where other admins have backed away.... but I think if you just allowed the stick to drop, yourself to let it go, and just moved on from this that things will resume as they were before and there's nothing to worry or stress about :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:57, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- If we respect his "wishes of uncivil", it harms the five pillars of Wikipedia. Sænmōsà 15:02, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Maybe I shall use a word to describe the "respect": Appeasement policy. Sænmōsà 15:11, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Why I complained Mongolian Beef (if you really want to know): He refused to communicate with me just because my block log in Chinese Wikipedia, but I corrected myself for a long time, and I just want to have some typical communication and notification. It is just a simple idea, but a serious case. Sænmōsà 15:13, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sanmosa - Please read this response I made to your message on Wikaviani's user talk page. You need drop the stick and move on, please. Wikipedia is not a battleground and it is not about winning; behavioral discussions should be about what's best for the project and what should be done in order to keep the peace and keep the focus toward this goal - your message on Wikaviani's talk page clearly shows that this is not the primary focus. It's getting to the point where your inability to let this go is becoming just as disruptive as the edit summaries that Mongolian Beef made toward you - that's not good. Please take a moment, allow yourself to calm any emotions, step away for a bit if you need to, work on a different project or area, anything... just give yourself a fair opportunity to think about this logically. You'll realize that my responses are correct if you do... I hope you understand and that you take my advice :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:24, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sanmosa - I saw your response on Wikaviani's user talk page. I'm glad to see that you're allowing yourself to step away, cool down, and take a moment to let emotions settle :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:29, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Also, if it makes you feel better, I left a message on Mongolian Beef's and talked to the user about their edit summaries and asked him to tone it down. They were indeed not in compliance with Wikipedia's civility policy, but my main focus at the time was also to calm you down as well - so keep that in mind, too :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:34, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sanmosa - I saw your response on Wikaviani's user talk page. I'm glad to see that you're allowing yourself to step away, cool down, and take a moment to let emotions settle :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:29, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sanmosa - Please read this response I made to your message on Wikaviani's user talk page. You need drop the stick and move on, please. Wikipedia is not a battleground and it is not about winning; behavioral discussions should be about what's best for the project and what should be done in order to keep the peace and keep the focus toward this goal - your message on Wikaviani's talk page clearly shows that this is not the primary focus. It's getting to the point where your inability to let this go is becoming just as disruptive as the edit summaries that Mongolian Beef made toward you - that's not good. Please take a moment, allow yourself to calm any emotions, step away for a bit if you need to, work on a different project or area, anything... just give yourself a fair opportunity to think about this logically. You'll realize that my responses are correct if you do... I hope you understand and that you take my advice :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:24, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sanmosa - I agree that many of Mongolian Beef's edit summaries toward you on his user talk page are a bit uncivil, but why not just respect his wishes and just leave the guy alone? Why do you need to persistently report the uncivil comments and keep pressing on about it? The ANI report you opened yesterday was closed shortly afterwards, and I'm sure is just adding more fuel to the fire between you two. The edit summaries you listed do not qualify for revision deletion and cannot be removed. What is all of this about and what exactly would you like to see happen? (I'm not asking rhetorically here; I'd actually like to know). Don't get me wrong: I'm a big proponent of civility and being respectful to one another, and I've applied civility blocks where other admins have backed away.... but I think if you just allowed the stick to drop, yourself to let it go, and just moved on from this that things will resume as they were before and there's nothing to worry or stress about :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:57, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
It was U5-- looks like a training script for customer service.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 14:38, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Special:Contributions/TrainingWave4 blocked for not here-- looks like they were using wikipedia to online host a training seminar.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 14:40, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Dlohcierekim - Yeah, I realized that this was the case later... I got sidetracked and I forgot to redact the response I made to AIV... my apologies for that. Thanks for leaving me a message and for following up nonetheless. Looks like a good call to me :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:44, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- No problem we are all intensely over worked, rushed and work-stressed. A t least I get that way.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 16:20, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Dlohcierekim - Everyone does, and those who say that they don't are big fat LIARS! :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:43, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- No problem we are all intensely over worked, rushed and work-stressed. A t least I get that way.-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 16:20, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Dlohcierekim - Yeah, I realized that this was the case later... I got sidetracked and I forgot to redact the response I made to AIV... my apologies for that. Thanks for leaving me a message and for following up nonetheless. Looks like a good call to me :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:44, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
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Fair enough. It's my fault that I am too used to the standards of "civility" of sites I usually lurk on like Reddit or Twitch. From now on I will try to be "civilized" by your and not make it difficult for you as long as he leaves me alone.
BTW don't you think he have been kind of "stalky" towards me? I had no disputes with him before this, which was months ago, yet he brought up the dispute I had with another unrelated editor from Chinese to English Wikipedia. And both of his ANIs against me (I still don't understand why he started the first one) were swiftly closed. If he does not stop I will consider abandoning this account as I don't want to waste more time on this.--Mongolian Beef (talk) 16:54, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Mongolian Beef! I appreciate you for taking the time to get back to me here and for being open about your thoughts about what's been going on between you and Sanmosa ... lol. It's fine, and I completely understand being used to how people act on Reddit, Twitch, 4chan, other sites... Just know that civility is a big thing here, and (understandably) as hard as it can be during frustrating situations to keep your cool, remain respectful, be nice, all that stuff... it's actually what is going to help make frustrating events and disputes get resolved quicker and easier. I can say based off of my years of experience being here - you'll find being a dick hole to others here (I meant that in general lol - I wasn't calling you a 'dick hole') will draw more attention to you; it adds more to the frustration and only draws the processes and discussions out and makes them take longer... basically it has the opposite effect :-). No worries though... you replied here and it sounds like you understand this now; there's no need for me to tell you what now already know, and we can consider the uncivil edit summaries as part of the past ;-).
- Nah, there's no need to consider abandoning your account or anything like that. I know that you are both native speakers of both Chinese and English, so it's not uncommon for users to bump into one another across more than one project. I bump into the same administrators here as I do on the Wikimedia Commons, Meta, many other places - it's normal. That being said, I will say that Sanmosa went wayyyy overboard with his/her repeated efforts and attempts to discuss those edit summaries you made and that it went on longer than it should have. The discussions (s)he added today showed that (s)he was dead set on having you blocked or punished and that it was more about "winning" than benefiting the project. This is why I stepped in and told Sanmosa that his/her repeated discussions were becoming just as disruptive as what she was reporting and I asked him/her to stop, drop the stick, and move on. To Sanmosa's credit - he/she read my responses, agreed that it was going too far, and did exactly that. I know you're frustrated with this user, but I have to give credit where it's due... listening, agreeing, and actually stopping as they were asked to do is becoming a increasingly rare thing to see editors do around here. That was extremely good on his/her part to make that realization. I don't think you have anything to worry about and I doubt that this will continue. Just keep civil toward everyone at all times, and you'll be fine. If, however, it does continue - please let me know and I'll be happy to step in and put an end to it.
- You both have been given clear expectations (you need to be civil and respectful when you talk to others here, and Sanmosa needs to drop the stick in regards to your edit summaries and move on peacefully). Just follow through with yours and regardless of what happens and what Sanmosa (or anyone else) does, and I'll make sure that you don't feel harassed or hounded. If you have questions, concerns, or need anything else - just let me know and I'll be happy to help. Thanks again for the response and for talking to me openly - it's much appreciated and it really REALLY makes my job here A LOT easier! Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:48, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
You might want to take a look at the entire revision history of David Zolkwer. There is something peculiar I want to address. If you scroll through the article's revision history, you'll notice over 20 suspicious red username accounts with their contributions solely to said article. I'm pretty sure what he is doing is illegitimate and violates WP:SOCK, so I'm suspecting either sock puppetry or meatpuppetry by Zolkwer (talk · contribs). Furthermore, he's been doing this since 2009 and this has gone unnoticed since, so you might want to get a CU to investigate that. —Thanks. 100.2.98.246 (talk) 19:04, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, this page is familiar... I remember looking through the history of this page earlier in the day. I started going through each user and looking for similar edits to see if I could gather any evidence, and (as you can imagine) I got sidetracked with a handful of other wiki things that I had to take care of ;-). I'll do some more digging today and I'll see what I find. Thanks for bringing this up; it does need a look-through to determine what might be going on... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:08, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, that'll be great. 100.2.98.246 (talk) 19:12, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
The Nerdist podcast and Chris Hardwick
Here is my source. There are others as well https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/chris-hardwick-scrubbed-nerdist-website-pending-further-investigation-175339555.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.1.70.210 (talk • contribs)
- Hi there! Have you read Wikipedia's guide to citing references in-line with content? It's good that you found sources; you're halfway there! You just need to review and learn how to take that reference and add it as a source. I actually provided someone help with the exact same thing you're needing to do just recently, and it would provide you with the exact same help. See the conversation by clicking here (note the response I made as well as the example I added). You'll still want to review that guide I linked, but that response will also be of help as well. If you have any more questions or need help after reading through that guideline page, let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:53, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
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- Received and replied :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:49, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Soft block?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 19:49, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - What's the concern with this username that you believe deserves a block exactly? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:29, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- He's James Charles (model)Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:30, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- I wouldn't block this account immediately unless their edits suggest that they're claiming to be this person, otherwise yes I would if the edits indicate so. "James Charles" is a very common name for people to have, so I don't block usernames if they match a famous person unless the name is rare or unique (i.e. Barrack Obama, Harrison Ford, other names you don't commonly see), or the implication is extremely strong that they're trying to claim that they're the famous person. An example is a block I did somewhat recently where the username similar to "BillNyeTheScienceGuy" - that is an example where there's no question that this person is unambiguously claiming to be Bill Nye. Let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:45, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- He's James Charles (model)Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:30, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Admin
Can You refer me to an admin on Wikimedia Commons and the Simple English Wikipedia? Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:07, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Check out this list and this list. Those will give you who are administrators at each project ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:30, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
User:Wilhelm von grundwasser
Check content on userpage?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:10, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Yup, a clear self-admission of being blocked or banned in the past - good catch. The user has been blocked for this ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:48, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Hey Oshwah, thanks for the revert of the IP. I'm on my mobile so I'm not as fast. Would you mind protecting the page? You did back in May but vandals are back again. I request protection on RFPP but since you're active and have reverted vandalism already I thought I'd appeal to you. Thanks! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:58, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hi HickoryOughtShirt?4! I'm keeping active eyes on the article right now. I'm going to see if the vandalism continues first before I protect it. I want to see if this user has control of more ranges than what I just blocked, and leaving the page open will allow me to easily identify and handle it. Afterwards, yup that's the plan... semi protect the page ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:01, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Speedy deletion
It was G5 as well as G10. DuncanHill (talk) 00:15, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- DuncanHill - Yeeeuppp... I just realized that after seeing the edit made by OhIContravene and blocking the user as a sock :-). Do you know who the master account or LTA this user is? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:16, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, it's Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/RJCola. I seem to have upset the poor thing! DuncanHill (talk) 00:17, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- DuncanHill - Oh joy! Welcome to my world! Usually the socks and LTA users come after me ;-). I'll do my best to keep eyes out on recent changes and take care of this little debacle for you. If you spot one that I haven't caught, just message me here and I'll zap em ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:20, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, there are a few other admins and other editors on the look out too. DuncanHill (talk) 00:26, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- DuncanHill - Excellent. I've seen a few other RJCola socks get zapped earlier today, so I can verify that they are ;-). No problem; always happy to help! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:28, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Did you restore the creation protection when you changed the deletion reason? DuncanHill (talk) 00:33, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- DuncanHill -
That draft page (Draft:Duncan Hill) was never salted.I'd actually advise leaving it unsalted for now so that it's easy for additional socks to re-create it. Then I can just add it back later. It lets me keep an eye on it, and block any sock quickly once they go to create it. I'll leave it up to you, though - what would you like me to do? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:37, 16 June 2018 (UTC) Nooooooope I was totally wrong there. It was salted... my bad :-/
- DuncanHill -
- Did you restore the creation protection when you changed the deletion reason? DuncanHill (talk) 00:33, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- DuncanHill - Excellent. I've seen a few other RJCola socks get zapped earlier today, so I can verify that they are ;-). No problem; always happy to help! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:28, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, there are a few other admins and other editors on the look out too. DuncanHill (talk) 00:26, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- DuncanHill - Oh joy! Welcome to my world! Usually the socks and LTA users come after me ;-). I'll do my best to keep eyes out on recent changes and take care of this little debacle for you. If you spot one that I haven't caught, just message me here and I'll zap em ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:20, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, it's Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/RJCola. I seem to have upset the poor thing! DuncanHill (talk) 00:17, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
HogiesStillSuck (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). DuncanHill (talk) 02:28, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Service Awards
What's the limit of service awards one can display on their userpage?--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:24, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - There is none. Nobody is going to come running after you because you have 1, 4, 12, whatever number of service awards on your user page... and if they do, well... they should think about their priorities and choose their battles. There are much bigger issues going on and significantly bigger fish to try than someone who puts too many awards on their page... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:39, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- How much of your talk page is messages from me? Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:52, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- 23%. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:53, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- I'm joking; I actually have no idea.... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:56, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- 23%. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:53, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- How much of your talk page is messages from me? Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:52, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- The reason why "23 percent" (More like 60%) of your talk page is messages if from me is because, You are my Favourite Administrator on the English Wikipedia. (Yes I also like all the other admins) ;-) Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:58, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- HA! Thanks man! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:00, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- I also trust you as an admin on the English Wikipedia. Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:02, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Well, shit I'd hope so! lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:03, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- I made a request for rollback rights, can you grant me or deny me? Thanks!Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:06, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- I handled your rollback permissions request. Give it a read and let me know if you have any questions. TL;DR - not yet. You're doing good work, but you're not proficient in the important areas yet... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:32, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- About 34% of the topics on this talk page are form me...Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:09, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Recall Oshwah 2018! Natureium (talk) 02:09, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Mabye Oshwah should take over my talk page and I take over his... lolThegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:11, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Natureium - Aww, what'd I do to deserve in order to be recalled? :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:34, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Don't know, it just seemed like fun to start a campaign. Natureium (talk) 02:40, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Start one against... SQL (lol). He's lonely and he would love the attention :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:45, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Sounds like more of a TonyBallioni thing I think. SQLQuery me! 02:48, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Start one against... SQL (lol). He's lonely and he would love the attention :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:45, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Don't know, it just seemed like fun to start a campaign. Natureium (talk) 02:40, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- I made a request for rollback rights, can you grant me or deny me? Thanks!Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:06, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Well, shit I'd hope so! lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:03, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- I also trust you as an admin on the English Wikipedia. Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:02, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- HA! Thanks man! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:00, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- The reason why "23 percent" (More like 60%) of your talk page is messages if from me is because, You are my Favourite Administrator on the English Wikipedia. (Yes I also like all the other admins) ;-) Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:58, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Nah, haven’t you heard? We’re deleting Newyorkbrad this week. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:52, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
You've got mail
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- Responded and taken care of. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:18, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Your valued input on my talkpage
You wrote: You legitimately tried your best to respectfully explain the situation to Harmony944 and help him on his user talk page, and I give you major props for sticking through the accusations and heated replies and continuing to try and diffuse the situation... seriously. What you did was awesome. Sometimes people don't want to be helped... if the user doesn't want to listen, then I'd say go about your business, stick to policy (obviously you don't want to edit war or cause disruption yourself), and if they edit war again - they'll just wind up blocked again... It sucks to have to put it this way, but sometimes it's what has to happen. Keep up the great work, and do know that your civility and how you remained calm throughout the discussion are a huge asset to this project. Cheers :-)
Your input is deeply valued and nailed hook, line and sinker. In amenability to your sage advice, I throw up my arms proverbially and withdraw from further attempts at reasoning with User "Harmony." LOL! Your props and stamp of approval on my efforts at reasoning with him are greatly embraced. EXACTLY as you so sagely put it, sometimes people just don't want to be helped and quite frankly can't be helped to save their life. At this point, it's like talking to a brick wall, and it's time to go about my business, stick to policy and let them seal their own fate. I embrace you for extending your wealth of wisdom, commonsense and sage advice. Cheers :-) 2605:A000:4641:6000:E54D:96B3:56AF:D13A (talk) 02:50, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hey man! Good to hear back from you! I appreciate the kind response and I'm happy to hear that my message gave you a sense of reason and helped you to challenge your thinking, take a step back, and realize that you're just wasting your time completely. I've been there numerous times in my years of being here; it's frustrating, disappointing, almost sad in a way whem you make that realization... Just know that you did an amazing job trying to help Harmony944, and it's definitely something you should never stop trying to do for others. Unfortunately, there comes a point where "the writing is clearly on the wall" and your time and energy allocating your excellent logic, reasoning, assistance, and communication skills are just being wasted and nothing is going to change no matter how much you try. Just take 2-3 minutes and skim over the user's talk page from top to bottom and you'll see what I'm talking about. I see nothing but combative and argumentative replies when others have talked to him about their behaviors and disruption, accusations of "character assassination", "harassment", and "de-legitimization" being thrown back at others when they only try to leave feedback and offer to help, and unfounded challenges at the letter, tooth, nail, and technicality of Wikipedia policies when they're told that they're violating them. You're doing yourself a huge favor by realizing that the user clearly does not want to be helped and letting yourself walk away... it will save you time, energy, and frustration... if they don't want to take advantage of your skills and experience and help better themselves, fine. Spend your time with someone who will. Wikipedia is a busy place; don't let yourself get stuck or bogged down with users who are only going to waste your time ;-). I hope you're doing well and that you keep up the excellent work. If you need my input or my assistance with anything, please don't hesitate to message me and let me know - I'll be more than happy to lend a hand. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:45, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
didn't mean to erase everything