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Seattle portion of Ted Thompson's Wiki page

I take exception with whomever posted that Thompson drafted all those notable Seattle draft picks, like Shawn Alexander. He was in charge of Pro Player acquisitions, and wouldn't have been scouting. Holmgren and Wolf were known for disregarding his opinions on draft matters in Green Bay, so I find it hard to believe Holmgren suddenly felt Thompson was his go-to guy in the draft in Seattle.
This was a guy who didn't want Wolf to trade for Favre or Keith Jackson, two very important parts of the 1996 Super Bowl XXXI team.
I'm sorry, but unless someone has something a little better than a puff piece from the Packers official web site - which has been known to tell a whopper or two in it's time, I cannot see how this stuff passes the sniff test and remains in his Wiki bio at Ted Thompson without at least SOME citation or verification. It may as well be an except from Grimm's fairy Tales for all the credibility it carries and whomever wrote it up in the first place doesn't strike me as all that knowledgeable about front office jobs in the NFL. IdioT.SavanT.i4 (talk) 10:59, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

    • Nobody objected or responded to my comment about a lack of verification for Thompson having any input in drafting players in Seattle. I left a comment to that end, waited a week, and have now deleted those parts of the Seattle portion stating Thompson had responsibility for drafting certain players. So long as someone can cite a verifiable source - as REQUIRED under the living persons biography Wiki rules - I will not challenge it further, but until such time as it conforms to the rules here, it is gone. IdioT.SavanT.i4 (talk) 02:18, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Wisconsin

Should there be any relationship between this subproject and WikiProject Wisconsin? What are the established precedents? Royalbroil 02:33, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

No clue, technically this is a sub-project of the NFL Wikiproject, just like the Vikings, Bears, Browns, etc. I wouldn't mind a connection with Wisconsin, cause that could only lead to more participants here. I don't know of any precedent, but if you want to propose something to Wisconsin, then thats fine with me. I would back any connection there.
Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 03:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Starting Quarterbacks Template

I started the {{PackersQuarterbacks}} template, although the list is not complete. Many historical players were simply listed as "backs" so I'm not sure what position they actually played. Also, "starts" were not tracked so it's harder to find out if they were starting QBs. Please update if you have more information. Larkworb (talk) 20:14, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

From what I've have heard from the creator of the Pats starting QB template creator, this template isnt for every starting QB, just the main one from each season. So what he did was go through and see who the leading passer was in each season and add the name. I looked at it pretty quick and it looks good. Good job!
Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 20:27, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I added the other QBs who have been season leaders is the passing department and added the template to each QB's page. There is one QB who doesnt have a page, Jug Girard so if anyone feels like making a stub, that would be great. If no one does it I will make it in a day or so.
Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 21:07, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

A.J. Hawk

Does anybody want to help me expand the AJ Hawk article? RC-0722 (talk) 14:40, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I can help find sources and maybe some pics. I already have a bunch on my plate these comings weeks, but I could also do a peer review or help out in defined areas. I'll start looking for some sources and see if I can find some pics. Tell me what your plan is and what you need me to do!!
Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 18:02, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I can help you bud. i can look for all kinds of pics and some info about his early life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pookeo9 (talk • contribs) 18:27, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Here's a list of sources I found:
[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] Combined with the other sources on the page, I think this is a good base of information to start expanding the article.
Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 18:49, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
I Found another link of A.J Hawk's stats with the Ohio State Buckeyes. [9]--Pookeo9 19:52, 19 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pookeo9 (talk • contribs)

Also I found a video of A.J Hawks selection in the 2006 nfl draft. [10]Pookeo9

Great! We need to rename a few things (e.g. pro summary into NFL records), merge the personal life section into actual sentences, add references, and consider rewording (I wood do it all myself but I'm very busy this weekend). RC-0722 (talk) 06:01, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Dont worry RC i could do some of the rewording and add references.--Pookeo9 (talk) 12:38, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

    • Hawk will be coming up on some Packers milestones over the next couple years. Foremost is the number of total tackles by a Packers LB. When Nick Barnett left GB for Free Agency, he was spoken of as very close to claiming the GB number of tackles by a LB record. (787 or 788 after his 8th season- depending on which source you believe.) Hawk is currently at 713 or 714 - again depending on which source you believe - after 7 seasons and should surpass Barnett in 2013. The reason I question sourcing is because I downloaded the updated 2012 Green Bay Packers record book and found it to be partially a work of fiction & not to be trusted as a legitimate source of Packers team records. I'm sure most of the entries are probably true but there are enough incorrect records listed to make the entire official Packers PDF copy of the team's records suspect. EXAMPLE: Nick Barnett is listed as holding the single season total tackles record with 194. This is simply not true according to every other source, including NFL.com. The best he ever did with the Packers was 138 in a single season (2005). Be VERY cautious about citing the official Packers record book for stuff. It's not what I consider a reliable source - even if it is an accepted standard for inclusion as a Wikipedia source by most any definition set forth here. IdioT.SavanT.i4 (talk) 20:08, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Green Bay Packers Seasons

I've expanded the artical on the '1919 Green Bay Packers season'. I'd also like to expand the other Packers seasons articals and get them up to starter quality. Hopefully, this will provide the resources to get the 'History of the Green Bay Packers' article to A or even Featured status. --James Fahringer (talk) 04:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Images

I found 73 images of the NFL's greatest team during warmups for the Oct. 2007 Bears game from Ryan Grant's article, and here they are. I added an image to Deanna Favre's article. There are many more images that could be cropped out. Go, Pack, Go! Royalbroil 01:29, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

That's a great find Royalbroil, thanks!! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 08:34, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Proposal

I currently have a proposal at User_talk:SatyrBot/WikiProject_new_pages#Request_for_WikiProject_Green_Bay_Packers which would have a Bot automatically go through our categories and check for newly created articles that arent tagged with our project banner and place the pages in Wikipedia:WikiProject Green Bay Packers/No banner. If you have any comments on this, feel free to ask. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 21:44, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Article deletion

Note that Snow Bowl (Green Bay) has been nominated for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Snow Bowl (Green Bay). I have left my comment and you are invited to express your thoughts. Royalbroil 18:38, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for notifying the project, Royalbroil. I still wish I saw your user name under our members list ;-) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 19:43, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm already in five WikiProjects plus adminship, so my plate is full. I am certainly a friend of the WikiProject. I occasionally go to Green Bay, so let me know if a picture of a public place is needed. Also let me know when you need a peer review on an article. Royalbroil 03:40, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
It's ok Rb, you're probably more active in the project than most members :P And thanks for the offer, I'll probably take you up on it one these days! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 04:09, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Collaboration

Are you interested in doing a collaboration to creating a WP:DYK article on the Green Bay Packerettes? We could create it in a temporary subpage under this WikiProject and move it to mainspace after it's done. Royalbroil 01:04, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah sure! Wikipedia:WikiProject Green Bay Packers/Green Bay Packerettes. I'll start looking for some sources, pictures, etc. What are your plans for the article? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 04:28, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
My mind is an empty slate, maybe their history to start. I know there are several articles written about them in the Green Bay Press Gazette. I would expect some in The Post Crescent. Royalbroil 05:48, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

(←)Hey Royalbroil, what do you think about expanding the article to cover all of the previous cheer squads for the Packers? From all that I have read there is a rich history about all the past cheer squads, and I think it could be a great article over the whole subject. I'm going to hit the library either today or tomorrow and see if I can hunt down a book or two and maybe some other sources. I'll put a couple sources on the talk page that I found about the cheerleaders. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 17:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, ROYALBROIL and GONZO_FAN, I am a former Packers Cheerleader and wonder how I can help with this project. sideliner84@gmail.com --Sideliner84 (talk) 04:40, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
I came here to suggest the same thing! Royalbroil 17:40, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
What should we name the article? Royalbroil 01:14, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Green Bay Packers cheerleaders? Sounds good enough for me. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 02:16, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Very good - it's concise. Might anyone every want to use this as a singular so that it should be Green Bay Packers cheerleader? I don't see how the Hornung HOF page cites why the cheerleading team was called the "Golden Girls", it just says that he was the "Golden Boy". Royalbroil 02:45, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Wow, totally read the citation template and sentence wrong, I reverted the changes. I proposed Green Bay Packers cheerleaders based on Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 02:53, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

(←)Oh and I am going to hit my school's library tomorrow, and the county library on friday, so hopefully I can find some good info. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 02:58, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, the Dallas Cowbabes are a good precedent (besides being good to look at even though they consistently cheer for the wrong team). I don't think that I have any more information. Too bad that the information in the deadlinks aren't available anymore. I checked the Internet Archive (archive.org) too. I added them to the List of NFL cheerleaders article back in September 2007. I dont' plan to go to the library, so hopefully you'll find something. Royalbroil 03:51, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
I lied. Ok, I changed my mind. I stopped at 2 small city libraries since I drove past them yesterday. Neither had any books that would work as a reference on the topic. Lots of Packer statistics and biographies, but no cheerleaders. Royalbroil 12:21, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
I expanded the article a bit, although I wasnt able to find any other sources from the library. If you want to go through and give it a copyedit and finish/remove the notes you placed, I think we can start writing a good hook for the DYK. Let me know what you think. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 09:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

(←)I'm not willing to suggest the article for DYK with large gaps like that. Either we should wait until we find sources to flesh out a few sentences about the 1970s Packerettes and the Sideliners, or we move it to mainspace and forget about DYK. I vote we move it to mainspace. Too bad those references are inaccessible! Royalbroil 13:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I moved it. Feel free to make any changes you feel would help the article. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 05:12, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Green Bay Packers cheerleaders. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 05:12, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
It looks good! Royalbroil 05:18, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, and I forgot to thank you for the Flickr tip. I dont know if you noticed but I uploaded a bunch of those Packers players photos, and it led me to find the cheerleading pic! So thanks again! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) 05:36, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey, ROYALBROIL and GONZO_FAN, I am a former Packers Cheerleader and wonder how I can help with this project. sideliner84@gmail.com --Sideliner84 (talk) 04:40, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Something of interest...

Perhaps you could use this for something, fit it into an article, or add it to a newsletter. Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 21:55, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Hahahaha, wow and I thought I was a Favre fan!! That's quite a story... « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 22:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

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2007 Packers pics on flickr

I wasn't looking but found some Packers pictures at flickr that are licensed CC ShareAlike Attribution [11]. There's lots of opportunities to pick off pictures of players. Royalbroil 13:54, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot RB!! I will get to work on them when I have some time!! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 17:27, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
    • I have a friend who attends training camps in Green Bay and takes a TON of photos while he's there. He posts them on his account at photobucket and since he owns them, I'm sure any of the authors for ANY of the Green Bay Packers articles on players or the team could contact him and request permission to use any of the photos. He's quite nice that way. He sent me a complete set last year. For permission to use his Packers photos here, contact >> GIMPYBUTT on the scout.com PackerReport forum.<< (Click for linky.) Site registration is required, due to trolls, but it's free and very simple access. Once on the site, simply PM Gimpybutt. He's a moderator there. (Edited to insert my signature, which I apparently forgot to do when I posted the preceding. I'm not responsible for the following comment>>) IdioT.SavanT.i4 (talk) 19:41, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

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J. Lawrence

I just noticed in passing the existence two articles, Jimmy Lawrence (American football) and Jim Lawrence (American football), which might be about the same Packers player; there's a large, but not quite exact, overlap in biographical details. Anybody want to take a shot at figuring out if they are the same person, and if so which of the details the disagree over are correct? —Paul A (talk) 06:49, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

checkY Done The source in the article resolved all of the problems. Royalbroil 03:09, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

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Quick Question

Does this WikiProject use C-Class? This would seem to suggest yes, while this would seem to disagree. :-) Just trying to figure out if I should create the category or have the templates changed. Avicennasis @ 12:57, 24 Tamuz 5771 / 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I actually came by to ask this same question. I came across Category:C-Class Green Bay Packers articles, where the protection log suggests one thing, but the populated red-linked category suggests another. Any update on this WikiProject concerning the assessment scale? — ξxplicit 06:26, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
I don't think this WikiProject is active at all. Gonzo isn't active and he's the one who protected it. I'm not a member but think C-Class should be active. What really should happen is this WikiProject should be closed. Royalbroil 12:08, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
I've tagged it as inactive. I also requested unprotection of the above category, and then created it. Avicennasis @ 22:27, 8 Av 5771 / 8 August 2011 (UTC)

SS Mariposa sails from LA to Honolulu on Dec 25, 1932 with several Green Bay Packer football players

Hello,

My grandfather, Roger Grove, a professional football player for the Green Bay Packers, sailed on the Mariposa on Dec 25, 1932 for an exhibition game in Hawaii. It was common practice in those days to play exhibition games in addition to the regular football schedule. I have a partial passenger list which was retrieved from Ancestry.com. On this list are several Green Bay Packer players: Henry "Hank" Bruder, Lavern "Lavvie" Dilweg, Wuert Englemann, Milton "Milt" Gantenbein, Roger Grove, Arnold "Arnie" Herber, William "Clarke" Hinkle, Earl "Curly" Lambeau, John "Johnny Blood" McNally, August "Mike" Michalske.

D'Nel Grove Stucki — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.164.103.47 (talk) 20:33, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Suggested redirects

Thoughts? 71.146.20.62 (talk) 04:44, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

This WikiProject is quite inactive. I oppose any redirects except if it become quite active. Who would be using the redirects? Royalbroil 03:02, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

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Jake Ryan (American football) listed at Requested moves

A requested move discussion has been initiated for Jake Ryan (American football) to be moved to Jake Ryan. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. —RMCD bot 23:17, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Blake Martinez

I have begun expanding Blake Martinez to get it up to DYK status. When I get off work I will finish his junior year and Senior sections, add his draft scouting section as well as some miscellaneus information. If someone has the time and would mind copy editing, peer reviewing and just keeping an eye on it it would be appreciated. Im still trying to get back in to the swing of things.--Church Talk 20:50, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

@Church: I have added it to my watchlist and will review/copyedit it this weekend! Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:19, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
@Church: I did a copyedit and expansion and Lizard the Wizard did a few edits. Please feel free to edit or expand my additions as you see fit. Nice work on the article, keep on going! :) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:27, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Nicely done guys! We're not at 5x expansion and not even done. I'm going to begin work on finishing his college career now.--Church Talk 15:18, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
I think we're about ready to go, would you all mind giving it one more look over? I'll transclude it tonight.--Church Talk 16:20, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
Looks good and nice work guys! Go for it! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:38, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
It's up and awaiting review. Thank all of you for your help. It's a lot more fun doing this with multiple people. --Church Talk 06:04, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Proposed Deletion of Packers Pro Shop

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Active Bot Request

I have an active bot request here to add the project's banner to Green Bay Packers pages that are missing it. Please add to the discussion there if anyone has anything to add. Thanks, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:36, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Vic Ketchman

I'm not sure how many of you follow Packers.com or more specifically Vic Ketchman who does the 'Ask Vic" section, but I believe with his career and 43 seasons covering the NFL he may meet the requirements for an article. What do you all think? --Church Talk 15:21, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

His article was actually one of my projects, I just haven't gotten around to it yet! See Draft:Vic Ketchman. Feel free to edit and add to that article. When it is ready we can move it to the article namespace and get a DYK! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:33, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
I began looking in to sources for this, and this is the only thing I can find on him aside from what he's written in his bios.[12] What do you think of this as a WP:RS? I figured we could pull a lot of information as well form "Ask Vic" columns, but I"m not sure how that would stick as a source.--Church Talk 06:06, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
I definitely think he is notable enough, it may just be somewhat difficult to get sources. I'll look into it as well. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:30, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
I'm probably an outlier here in that I'm not really a fan in the usual sense; I just find the Packers have an interesting history, with pioneers like Don Hutson. So I can't say much about the current Packers since I don't really follow them. As an actual fan I lean toward the Saints, but I much rather college football. Geaux Tigers! Lizard (talk) 23:16, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
@Gonzo fan2007:, what do you think of the external link I mentioned in my first post as a reliable source? If you think it's good I'll go ahead and least fill in his early life section. --Church Talk 23:30, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
I think it is fine. There are a few articles linked within that article that are good too. Go for it! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 01:56, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Kyle Murphy

Hello Everyone, I have another article I'd like checked over if you can spare the time before I send it up to DYK. I figured since I had already done one Stanford player, why not another right? Thanks in advance!--Church Talk 08:41, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

@Church: I will review it today or tomorrow. Nice work and keep it up! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:16, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Kyle Murphy has been marked GTG, my next project is Kyler Fackrell, in my opinion someone who I think is going to be an absolute beast for the Pack. --Church Talk 03:23, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Nice work @Church! I just finished going through it! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:05, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Kyler Fackrell

I just finished my work on Kyler Fackrell, He's had a very interesting career. Would you all mind giving it a look over? Also what do you all feel needs to be done for it to be a good article candidate? I had a lot of fun writing it and would love for it to be my first Good Article. --Church Talk 20:05, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Eh, personally I'd choose a different article to shoot for GA. Do you think there's enough info on Fackrell to get it at least double of what it is now? There's been some short GAs out there but I usually feel confident if I can get an article to at least 20k bytes and 30 references. My shortest GA is Abe Mickal. Lizard (talk) 20:41, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
If I went really in depth about his performance every game of the season I could possibly double it, but I feel like that would be expanding just for the sake of expanding. What do you think?--Church Talk 22:13, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Have you heard of an editor named TonyTheTiger? He is an absolute master at milking details. Jweiss can vouch. Sometimes this can be a positive, but in my opinion it creates unnecessarily lengthy articles for less-than-noteworthy individuals. See Keith Elias. Isn't that a chore to read through? Filled with details galore but very little substance. This is just my opinion, but I'd rather write an article of that length for a player that I know people take interest in (like a recent pro bowler, or a hall of famer) than squeeze every drop for a relatively obscure player. It makes the work I put into it feel worth it. Lizard (talk) 22:36, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
I haven't heard of that editor but that is some really impressive work on squeezing out detail. In my opinion you don't need that much and I agree with your statement. I'll probably find a more relevant candidate to work for GA. I am extremely proud of my work on this one though. --Church Talk 23:30, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
The lead of the Fackrell article is way too short for it to be a good article candidate. It should be expanded to maybe two short paragraphs. Jweiss11 (talk) 03:34, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Nice work @Church! I will review it tonight. I would agree with the sentiment above though, that this is probably not a prime candidate for GA yet. You may want to check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Green Bay Packers/Collaboration for some possible GA candidates! Maybe Reggie White?! :) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:35, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Reggie White could easily even be FA. Top 10 player of all time, only player to win AP NFL Defensive Player of the Year with 2 different teams, performed at a high level well into the latter part of his career, and had a colorful (although sadly short) post-playing life. I have almost no experience writing for defensive players though. Lizard (talk) 16:31, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Bart Starr is another choice I could see up to FA. I guesss my problem is Im not sure where to even begin writing it.--Church Talk
That's always the most difficult part. I usually stock up on references first and then use Pro-Football-Reference as an outline. I look at the seasons that stand out and try to dedicate a paragraph for each season and each championship game, and paragraphs for some individual things that are notable. It's a lot easier if you can get your hands on an actual biography/autobiography, but most players don't have one. Although it looks like Starr has at least one. It also looks like his article has a lot of references already. Likely the work of our resident drive-by editor Glacier109. The man, the myth, the legend. Lizard (talk) 18:55, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Collaboration

Welcome @Lizard the Wizard, Mendeleev, and Yankees10! I am really glad you are here. My main idea for this group is to just foster collaboration and create great articles. Hopefully we can all help each other out!

I have a few projects/ideas and wanted to see if anyone is interested:

  • Bring List of Green Bay Packers stadiums to FL-class. I created this and think its close, just needs some more sources in the lede and a thorough copyedit/review.
  • Bring Clay Matthews III to GA-class. I just expanded the lede on this article. It just needs better sources, a little expansion and some clean-up.
  • Expand George Whitney Calhoun to DYK and start-class. Such a small stub for an important character in Packers history; could easily be expanded for DYK.

Please let me know if you are interested in collaborating on any of these projects. I am also interested if you guys have any projects you would like to collaborate on. Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 01:41, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

There's also the Wikipedia:WikiProject National Football League/Pro Football Hall of Fame article improvement campaign that Cbl put together, and there's quite a few Packers to choose from. Clarke Hinkle immediately stands out to me. Not sure how much info is out there for him but his resume is definitely worth more than 5k bytes. Lizard (talk) 17:22, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
@Lizard the Wizard: Clarke Hinkle would definitely be a good article to target for improvement! I also put together this Wikipedia:WikiProject Green Bay Packers/Collaboration. Let me know what you think. All of these players would overlap with Wikipedia:WikiProject National Football League/Pro Football Hall of Fame article improvement campaign, so two birds with one stone! It would also help the Project reach its Good Articles goal and Featured List goal! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:34, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
Welcome back @Church! Let us know if there is anything you are interested in collaborating on! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:03, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
As I said earlier, I could use all the help I can get with Aaron Rodgers and getting it fixed up for a GA review. Im on vacation right now but tommorow night I will begin truly going over what to improve.--Church Talk 22:08, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
Awesome! It would be great to get Aaron Rodgers to GA :) Let us know if and when you need specific help (peer review, copyedit, etc). « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:15, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
Will do, you may want to take a look on my userpage. I list all of my DYKs some of which arent listed in the page. We may be closer then we thought to one of our goals--Church Talk 22:40, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
I will check it out! Feel free to add them yourself too, if you would like! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:02, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
It's nice having an experienced editor return to the project. Football as a whole could use more editors working on content rather than maintenance. Lizard (talk) 23:07, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Welcome @Stylteralmaldo! Let us know if you have any ideas for collaboration or are interested in any specific articles. Glad to have you back! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:18, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Welcome @Mrschimpf and ThunderFan109! Let us know if you have any questions or are interested in collaborating on anything! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 03:02, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks man! Is there anything on the Clinton-Dix article I can work on to make it become C class? --ThunderFan109 (Thunder Up!) 03:04, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
Needs references. All that trivia in the high school section about playing with and against certain players needs references, otherwise it seems like original research. The 2014 and 2015 seasons also have no citations. Lizard (talk) 03:13, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

I added some references there for 2014 and 2015. I added 2 for 2014 and 1 for 2015. What class is it on? --ThunderFan109 (Thunder Up!) 03:31, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

It's start class for now. I should have clarified it'll take a little more work than that. The article should be about double that size for C class. Also, see Help:Footnotes for how to cite with inline citations. I converted those references you added into inline citations but right now they're the bare minimum of an external link. Ideally you should fill out as much authorship info as you can. See Wikipedia:Citing sources. Lizard (talk) 16:26, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
@Lizard the Wizard: I did but I'm editing from a phone. So I need to add sources for high school section? --ThunderFan109 (Thunder Up!) 00:52, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
If you plan on getting it to GA you'll need a reference after every quote, personal detail, or information likely to be challenged. You don't need to cite that the dog barked, because that's what dogs do. No one would challenge that. But if you say "he was considered one of the best in the country" you'll most likely need multiple independent sources to back that up. And, while not as crucial to cite as the above, if you say he played with or against a certain player you should cite a source mentioning that he played with/against that player, to establish that it's a fact worth mentioning. Otherwise it can come off as WP:CRUFT. Not to mention original research. Lizard (talk) 01:08, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
@Lizard the Wizard:, I added some references I know it's to early to nominate it for GA status I will focus on it more. But how does it look should I change it to C-Class? I even added he got in a sideline fight at Carolina in week 9. --ThunderFan109 (Thunder Up!) 05:04, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Pinging doesn't work when you add it in after, due to technical stuff. But you don't need to ping me, I have this page watched. I did some copyediting last night to Clinton-Dix's page. The lead section should be a bit longer and cover the major points of the article, which at this point in his career would be that he won two BCS National Championships with Alabama and was named a consensus All-American. But his college career section doesnt even mention he was a consensus All-American. That's a huge accomplishment for any player. There should also be more on the 2012 BCS championship game. Don't worry so much about getting it up to C-class. Just focus on how to improve the article and it'll get there eventually. Lizard (talk) 19:23, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
I did saw that edit summary you said to me. I won't worry about C class but I will however worry about the article. I am actually going to add that whenever I can. Thanks for telling me that. --ThunderFan109 (Thunder Up!) 19:35, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Lizard I added the things you told me about to the college section. How does it look? I'm not rushing to get it to GA I want to improve it though. What else should I add I will be happy to add them in there? --ThunderFan109 (Thunder Up!) 23:25, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
ThunderFan109, I would recommend you look at other WP:GAs (maybe find an example of a young NFL player). Len Ford is a good example of what type of quality GA is. It is really difficult to get an article to GA, especially if you aren't familiar with all of the ins and outs of the Manual of Style (I haven't written a GA by myself yet, and I have been here for over 10 years!). I would recommend you keep on working on Ha Ha Clinton-Dix and get familiar with all the things it takes to get to GA-quality. The article still needs a good amount of expansion and all references need to utilize a {{Citation}} template (they can't be bare urls). Let us know if you have any questions and keep it up!! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:13, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Lizard I agree with you for me to read a GA article about a NFL player. I read a article about Calvin Johnson and I saw on the article that it mentioned his college and NFL awards. Isn't that one of the ways a GA article about a NFL player should be? I agree I will keep it up like you said about me workin on HHCD's article. I will try to continue getting familiar with GA articles (hell I will even read the criteria for GA whenever I can). Since I don't feel like adding the citation template to the article, would you mind to do it though. I agree with you when you said for me to keep it up and that's what I will do. I want to continue helping the article. I believe adding a article to GA status is kinda hard and it takes time. I will continue spending time working on it and continue getting familiar with good articles like Calvin Johnson. I saw a lot of info being added in the top of that page and I am hoping the same thing happens in the HHCD article. I won't really worry about GA yet but I do however hope this is my first GA. I even said that it is too early to worry about GAs now. I will focus on improving it by doing a lot of stuff there. But one thing on me improving the article and I hate to say this but I can't do this work all by myself and I might need you to help me with the article if I need it. I might even leave a message on your talkpage one day if I do need help. You can actually tell me the issues about this or what needs to be done on my talkpage so I can fix them. Remember though as I said I won't worry about GAs now. --ThunderFan109 (Thunder Up!) 02:47, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Good luck ThunderFan! Unfortunately, if you want to improve the article, you are going to have to do the hard work! {{Citation}} templates are a very important part of articles. We all have articles we are working on, so unless you find someone to collaborate on an article with you, it is unlikely people are going to do the hard work for you! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:13, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
I know but I just can't do it all by myself hopefully you or Lizard help. Anyways, I will let you or Lizard know if I need anything. Should we close this? --ThunderFan109 (Thunder Up!) 04:32, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Haha Clinton-Dix

What's up guys! I am trying to improve the article Haha Clinton-Dix. I'm not trying to get it to GA just yet as I will worry about that once it reaches B class but I am focusing on improving the article. I would love to have this my first GA but I won't worry about that now so please don't tell me anything about that part. About the article, I believe there are issues with the article. When I read Kyler Fackrell, Kyle Murphy, and Dean Lowry, I figured out that's one of the ways I can improve the article. I added the citation tag because I believe it needs some references as well. Don't get me wrong there are some but I think there should be a little more. As I am trying to add a little quotes in the article and try to improve it the way Church did the 3 articles I mentioned, could one of you guys let me know what to put in the article, like how HHCD, ESPN, or Packers fans reacted here so I can copy what you told me what I can add to be put in the article or more information about what I can add about his college career. I think the college part needs a little more info in my opinion. Thanks! --ThunderFan109 (Thunder Up!) 03:47, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Hey ThunderFan. I am not sure I fully understand what you are asking. If you want to expand the article, than just go for it! I don't think any of us are going to be able to tell you what to add, other than what was mentioned above. A good NFL player article summarizes the life and career of the individual, highlighting relevant achievements and notable details that are well-sourced by reliable news sources. It needs to have a proper lede that summarizes the articles content, and should have good graphics and tables. All sources need to use the {{Citation}} template or a similar citation style. Work on these things and when you have sufficiently done this, I think many of us would be glad to copyedit or review the article. Hope this helps. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:49, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

I added that he was picked by Packer fans. The Citation part is kinda hard though. Could you please look at that part I mentioned about Packer fans picking him. I did mentioned he was excited to be a Packer. That citation part you mentioned seems a little hard though I hate to say. --ThunderFan109 (Thunder Up!) 02:50, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Packers by the Numbers

Does anyone own a copy of Packers by the Numbers: Jersey Numbers and the Players who Wore Them? The preview is pretty limited on Google books, and conveniently excludes the entire chapter on Canadeo. Lizard (talk) 21:24, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

I don't, but it is only $0.44 on Amazon for a used copy! Maybe that will be the next book I read... « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:31, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Just ordered it, I will have it wednesday. --Church Talk 00:41, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
Welp. I normally stick to newspapers and stats sites, but I'm trying to improve my prose by focusing less on statistics and achievements, and more on typical biographical descriptions of the player. The former way worked for a player like Don Hutson because he was a stats monster. But for someone like Canadeo, or a defensive player like Reggie White, stats and achievements alone won't suffice for GA or even B. So books are our best friend. Lizard (talk) 01:10, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Dean Lowry

I just finished my expansion of Dean Lowry and would like the usual check over and reevaluation if you all have the time. My goal at this point is to make people seeing DYK on the main page think that all of their editors like the Packers :). Regards----Church Talk 06:33, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

I am slowly working on it Church. I keeping running out of time. I will try to get to it today or tomorrow! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:50, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
@Church: I forgot to mention I finished copyediting! Good luck with the DYK! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:48, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Jason Spriggs

Evening everyone, I just finally got Jason Spriggs to a point where I feel comfortable of it passing DYK. I tell you what, Offensive Lineman are tough to write for. Add that to the fact I haven't had the time I need lately to write about him. If someone would mind giving it the usual treatment It'd be much appreciated. --Church Talk 19:20, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

They're very hard to write for. I consider them the "hard mode" of football articles. Lizard (talk) 19:35, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Thunderfan and Ha-Ha Clinton Dix

I just heard the news that Thunderfan was a sock of banned user. The most notable article he edited on this account was Ha Ha Clinton-Dix. Per policy, any changes by a banned person should be reverted but he does seem to have done some alright stuff to the article. When we have the time can we give the article a once-over and a little bit of polish just to make sure everything seems to be okay? Thanks, --Church Talk 22:17, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

He really didn't add much of substance. I'd argue it was better off before he got to it. He clearly didn't have much knowledge on football (or at least not what you'd like from someone writing articles on football players), his grammar was sub-par, and he flat-out refused to learn about citations and MOS in general. He obviously meant well, but we really don't need someone who creates more work than he contributes and expects others to do stuff for him. That being said, can someone add a bit more on Tony Canadeo lol. Lizard (talk) 06:33, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Billy Grimes

If anyone is interested in a player who's been kinda forgotten by time, Billy Grimes seems like a good article to spend a few hours building up to start-class. Two-time Pro Bowler in 3 seasons with the Pack. Had a brilliant season in 1950. Here's his PFR profile. Lizard (talk) 15:27, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

As always Lizard, I am available for copyedit and review! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:11, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
You're killing me Smalls. Lizard (talk) 17:14, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Canadeo

I think I'll start on Tony Canadeo next week and see how far I can get it. Running backs have kind of become my forte, and I've seen a good bit on him as I work on Steve Van Buren, what with their careers overlapping. Hopefully we'd be able to get him to GA and knock one more out for that retired numbers Good Topic. Also it's really odd that Jim Taylor's number is retired by the Saints but not the Packers. Lizard (talk) 09:07, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

I'll happily help you write it, I've been meaning to get in to GA if you don't mind me tagging along. (I've been procrastinating Aaron Rodgers. heh.) Also, unfortunately Fullback is an underrated position and the Packers have always been slow in retiring numbers.--Church Talk 16:07, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Awesome! I will be working on List of Green Bay Packers retired numbers over the next week or so, hopefully bringing it to WP:FLC after that! At some point we will probably need to go through Brett Favre again and clean it up. It has kind of languished since it passed WP:GA in 2007/08. I will be available for copyedit/review when necessary. Let me know! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:15, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
The help would be appreciated Church. That'd allow me to do some work on Clarke Hinkle as well. And yeh, if we continue to let Favre's page go we might risk it losing GA. The consecutive starts section in particular where it lists backups who started or whatever during his streak is particularly unwieldy. Not to mention unsourced. Possibly original research. Lizard (talk) 20:20, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

I've started on Canadeo. Split his career into pre-war and post-war. Gonna go from there. Lizard (talk) 16:42, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

I think I've hit all the highlights for Canadeo, if anyone wants to look over it and/or re-asses. It's probably not enough for GA at the moment, most likely not even B. Tidbits were difficult to come by. Lizard (talk) 02:48, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
I will look it over this weekend!! And hopefully wrap up List of Green Bay Packers retired numbers! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 03:31, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
Copyedit complete. Looks good so far! Sorry about the {{As of}} mess-up. This template was brought to my attention at WP:FLC, so I try to use it whenever "As of" is used. I also reassessed to C-class. Lizard, have you seen this source: [13]? May help you fill in some more info! :) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:08, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
@Lizard the Wizard: pinging just want to make sure you saw this. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:32, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
I didn't see that. Yeh that'll definitely help. Lizard (talk) 17:53, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Reggie White

I'm taking a break from the Pack for a while to focus on another project I've been meaning to get to, but I'm planning Reggie White as my next Packers project. Looks like someone did a fine job with his college career, but his pro career is obviously lacking. I've never done a defensive player though, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to spin up something that befits a legend of this magnitude. Lizard (talk) 04:06, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Defensive players biggest impacts are their stats, I may take a crack at it when you're ready. In the meantime I am about to request a Per Review on Aaron Rodgers and get a better idea of what to do to get him to GA----Church Talk 05:57, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Hutson

Looks like Don Hutson is gonna be GA reviewed soon. Hopefully it's good enough. If so it'll be 2 down and 4 to go for the retired numbers, plus the retired numbers list article. Lizard (talk) 15:47, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Nice work on the GA Lizard! The article reads really well. I just got back from vacation, and hope to get List of Green Bay Packers retired numbers to WP:FLC this weekend. I also am halfway through Bart Starr's biography (great read if you have the chance) and should be able to add a good amount to his article. Church, I also plan to review Aaron Rodgers for you, and make some edits! Keep up the good work everyone! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:21, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Lizard, on a related note, having never taken an article to WP:FAC before, what would be needed to bring Don Hutson up to that standard? I imagine they are very stringent on WP:MOS, but is it mostly just sentence structure and prose? Just curious, since it would be great to bring our first article up to WP:FA for the project. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:25, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
They'll want to see more on his playing style, and more on why he's considered the first great receiver. And they'll probably skewer it for relying too much on stats, since stats aren't inherently notable. It really isn't my best work. Lizard (talk) 21:00, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Anyone know French?

Bart Starr is a GA on the French Wikipedia. And the refs are all in English, so maybe the main contributor can assist in our English version. Lol does pinging work with interlanguage links? Lizard (talk) 01:36, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

I can attempt a google translate, that's the best of my abilites.--Church Talk 04:50, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
Speaking of Bart, a nice article about him on Packers.com today. Nice find Lizard, although I sadly do 't speak French. There are definitely a lot of sources in that article! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:48, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Geronimo Allison for Deletion

Hey gang, just wanted to let you all know that I have nominated Geronimo Allison for deletion. Seems like a pretty clear cut case of failing WP:NGRIDIRON to me but I figured I would inform you all if you wish to weigh in.--Church Talk 19:17, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

It's finally time!

Evening Gents, Just wanted to wish you all a happy NFL season. I for one will spend tomorrow kicked up in my chair with a cold beer watching the Pack handle Jacksonville. I apologize for the drop off in my productivity here lately. The 80 hour weeks aren't fun. Heres hoping to a fun season and more improvement to the Packers articles!--Church Talk 00:01, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

@Church: @Yankees10: @Lizard the Wizard: We have the same coaching staff so expect a 9-7 season. We will never get back to the Super Bowl until Thompson and McCarthy is gone. Aaron hasn't been his self don't be excited guys. --Mark Ellwitz (talk) 19:50, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
@Mark Ellwitz: Just curious, what's your favorite NBA team? Lizard (talk) 22:20, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
@Lizard the Wizard: I don't know. Again, I was talking about McCarthy and Thompson. Any chances McCarthy is gone after the season? --Mark Ellwitz (talk) 01:38, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
Who knows. The NFC North has been pretty bad over the past few years, but the Vikings look to be on the rise. It's pretty scary how good they're looking even without Peterson. Lizard (talk) 02:15, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
How do you think Packers will be this year @Lizard the Wizard:? --Mark Ellwitz (talk) 02:29, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
I'm actually not really a packers fan, I just enjoy working on articles for historically great players, and the Packers have many of them. Lizard (talk) 02:42, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
I want to add that MM was critized for conservatism against the Seahawks. Is there any citation I can say? --Mark Ellwitz (talk) 02:48, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

Me Being MIA

Sorry everyone for suddenly going MIA. Not sure how much time I will have to edit, but I am still here and will answer any messages sent my way or here at the project. Hope all is well! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:04, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Jim Taylor

I'm pretty much finished work on Jim Taylor. Images would be nice to break up the wall of text a bit. If anyone lives near Lambeau or somewhere that displays packers memorabilia (such as worn jerseys/helmets), some images would be appreciated not just for Taylor's page, but as many players as possible. Lizard (talk) 22:31, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Jared Cook

I created a subtitle page about his catch against the Cowgirls User:WikiHelper1/The Tip-Toe Catch. Could you guys please help me improve it, thanks! --WikiHelper1 (talk) 15:15, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Good Article Status for the Green Bay Packers Page

Let's do it! There is a good amount of work that needs to be done on the article, but I think we can get it there. I don't know if anyone is still active in this project, but let's try! ‡ Єl Cid, Єl Caɱ̩peador ᐐT₳LKᐬ 16:24, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

@El cid, el campeador:, it would be great if you could do this! Unfortunately, I am not very active anymore. If you get to a point where you think it looks good, let me know and I will definitely copyedit it for you! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:47, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
@Gonzo fan2007: Ok, great, I will let you know! I will do everything I can to make Vince proud ;) ‡ Єl Cid, Єl Caɱ̩peador ᐐT₳LKᐬ 13:53, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Template Proposed for Deletion

See Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2018_March_28#Template:Green_Bay_Packers_Hall_of_Famers for a discussion of a template related to the Packers WikiProject. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:02, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Brett Favre

Brett Favre, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. AIRcorn (talk) 22:30, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

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