User talk:Vanamonde93

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Tawana Brawley rape allegations

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Speedy Deletion of the article Brij Raj Oberoi

Hello Vanamonde93, I want to know the reason why the page 'Brij Raj Oberoi' was marked for speedy deletion. As per the criteria mention A7 and G11. The indication of importance was mentioned as the person is a hotelier and has been mentioned in other Wikipedia article. And the article was properly cited from reliable resources of newspapers like Fortune, The Hindu etc. And it was not a promotional article as many newspapers have talked about him. Could you please tell me in detail why the article was tagged for Speedy deletion? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfie 09 (talk • contribs) 11:52, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

@Alfie 09: I'm afraid that simply being a hotelier is not really a claim of significance; there are hundreds of thousands of hotels worldwide. That was the main reason. The second reason was that some of the language was promotional in nature, and Wikipedia is not a means of promotion. Finally, please remember that to pass our general standard for notability, there must be substantial information about the subject of the article in independent reliable sources; brief mentions are not enough. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 11:55, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93: I understand their are hundreds of hoteliers worldwide but in India it is of relevance as the person has a chain of Heritage hotel in Himalayas which is an important information. As a relevant information cited with independent resources like Fortune article, where Fortune has also given the importance to the person in an standalone article. There are many articles written and mentions by different important newspapers about the person. If the language was promotional in nature I am apologetic for that as I am new to Wikipedia but I have kept the language based on only facts stated in newspapers. As taking example of other Wikipedia pages and their citation I wrote this one, where pages were not even cited to proper resources and are still published. I feel my article was not really infringing any major Wikipedia guideline.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfie 09 (talk • contribs)

@Vanamonde93: Well, I'm afraid the problems with notability remain, and I'm not willing to simply undo the deletion and leave it at that. However, I would be willing to move the deleted page into your userspace as a draft, where you can work on it at your leisure, and ensure that it meets our policies and guidelines before creating it again. Is this something you are interested in? Vanamonde (talk) 12:27, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

--Alfie 09 (talk) 13:12, 24 June 2018 (UTC)::@Alfie 09: Sure! As you mentioned the article had promotional language I am willing to work on it again and make sure it meets the guidelines. However, I would need your help in understanding what part you feel as promotional as I don't see anything which is promotional in the article. There is a ambiguity in understanding the guideline in what is written and what is followed, as this article Twaron is just cited from the person website and other links doesn't even exist now. So I would really need a help into understanding this.

@Alfie 09: here you go: User:Alfie 09/Brij Raj Oberoi. Please read WP:RS and WP:NOTPROMO before proceeding. Also, please remember to sign your posts. Since you asked about Twaron; that page isn't in great shape, but it does have references to multiple scientific or semi-scientific journals. Vanamonde (talk) 09:18, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Also, I would suggest using the articles for creation process to move your article out of draft space. Vanamonde (talk) 09:19, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93: Thank you! I read the guidelines for Non promotional articles and I did read it before as well. I don't see the article having any kind of promotional words or indicating towards anything promotional. The article is simply based on facts about the person with reliable resource which is not even a Press Release, like the Fortune article. I need to understand where it is not according to the guideline?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfie 09 (talk • contribs) Alfie 09 (talk) 13:14, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

@Alfie 09:, please, sign your posts on talk pages. Adding a sobriquet like "Diamond Oberoi" verges on promotion, but the issues aren't just with language. Listing the hotels owned by a person, for instance, is also problematic. Vanamonde (talk) 12:22, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93: In this case adding a sobriquet is a matter of factual information, where the person is known by the name 'Diamond Oberoi' and this is also mentioned in other Wikipedia pages related and has been accepted and also has a mention in the newspaper. The two names the person is known with, is described in all the news article I have given the citation of. And there are many Wikipedia article of people in which their sobriquet is given. So please help me understand how it is promotional? Also, are you saying that the hotels owned should not be mentioned at all? Because this is what he is known for. The hotels are Heritage properties which were once owned by the Royalties of the particular place and has history of hundreds of years behind it. It is something like Steve Jobs Wikipedia page talks about that he was the co-founder of Apple because it is a fact. Similarly the hotels were mentioned because of the relevance with who the person is, without it the article will not make much sense because he is known as a person who has a Heritage group hotels in Himalayas. So is it like the mention of hotel cannot be there at all? Alfie 09 (talk) 13:39, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)I would advice you to bring 3 reliable sources (no blogs or websites of questionable editorial integrity or interviews) that cover(s) the subject in a non-trivial manner i.e. not any piece with mere-name-mention(s).(The Hindu news-piece fails to establish much of any notability on this ground.)For one the TWL is too new to be even considered a RS, esp. in an era when every other journalist is opening up their own news-zines.As discussed at RSN, Fortune-India is typical PR-stuff.So, nearly nothing to establish notability, as of now.∯WBG^converse 14:06, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

@Alfie 09: Please don't misrepresent what I say. Listing the hotels owned by a person is promotional. I didn't say you couldn't mention them. And honestly I've had more or less enough of this discussion; WP:AFC is the place you should go for more feedback on your draft. Vanamonde (talk) 04:36, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93:I understood your point on listing. I just wanted to be clear to omit any kind of confusion further. Also, as WBG mentioned the resources are not reliable. Please tell me how Fortune India which is a part of Fortune worldwide can be a typical PR publication? I want to understand as I have seen many Wikipedia article cited with Fortune articles and supported as reliable source. I read the guidelines that you have mentioned but please understand that they are very generic in nature and doesn't speak about which publication article is reliable and which is not. By now I have understood the point that listing the hotel names is something I would need to correct but is that the only thing? If you look at the article it is written in the words given in the newspapers and not something I have wrote on my own.Alfie 09 (talk) 06:30, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

• @Alfie 09: I asked you look for feedback elsewhere, and you ignored my request, which is rather annoying. I did have another look, and here are some more concerns; this source reads more like a puff-piece than genuine journalism. The Fortune piece does, too, but that is from a known source and I can't dispute it beyond a point. But, it says nothing about an undergrad degree, certainly not one with honors. The phrase "heritage hotels" is another problem, without further context. Now, please rewrite your draft, and take it to AFC. I don't have more time to spend on it. Vanamonde (talk) 06:48, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93: You have been very helpful and patient to answer my queries. I am really thankful to you as it helped me alot.Alfie 09 (talk) 12:29, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

AE

I'm going to reply here to your comments at AE so as not to make my report longer. Honestly, given the scope of the problem I don't see how I can make it any more concise. If you got any suggestions, I'd welcome them. As to your points, Icewhiz acknowledgement of his "error" was to call misrepresenting a source to attack a subject "a mild case of OR". This shows that he doesn't take these kinds of issues seriously. As to the source, this is a far-right anti-semitic source, which is itself misrepresenting Chodakiewicz for its own ends. So then the question becomes, why is Icewhiz using a far-right anti-semitic, clearly unreliable source in a BLP, especially since he claims to object to such sources?

For the Musial diff, I guess that's a matter of interpretation, but Icewhiz's edit makes the statement more extreme than it was.

However, please take a look at the Krajewski issue. There's a reason why I put that up first.Volunteer Marek (talk) 05:45, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

@Volunteer Marek: If Icewhiz is using a far-right source, then that's the point which should be made, right? Also, I'm quite willing to examine evidence that some editors are discounting sources based on personal dislike; but I'm generally not willing to treat those as BLP violations. I suspect the same is true of other admins. So what you've got to do is either provide clear-cut evidence of policy-violation, or a series of diffs which show there's a clear problematic pattern to an editor's talk page commentary even when any individual comment is okay. At the moment, to be frank, I'm seeing things that are concerning on both sides, but not enough for a sanction. Vanamonde (talk) 06:00, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

" then that's the point which should be made" - He used both. Chodakiewicz's original essay and the far right source. I was trying to be... concise.

His edits regarding Krajewski and Chodakiewicz are, in my mind, clear cut policy violations (BLP). Taken together with his edits on other historians' articles, there is also a clear problematic pattern (that's sort of the thing - it's hard to establish a "pattern" when you have to be concise).Volunteer Marek (talk) 06:04, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

And BTW, I specifically focused on only the BLP issues so as to avoid making the report too long. But there's plenty of other problematic behavior. Like, for example, Icewhiz's bizarre contention that because one source said that "no perpetrators of a massacre are known to be alive", then that is a BLP violation against somebody somewhere who might still be alive who was involved in the massacre, except if such people exist, then they certainly weren't involved in the massacre because that would be an attack against them! Or something like that. It's confusing. Purposefully so, because it was just a dishonest attempt at removing a source he doesn't like. See discussion here.Volunteer Marek (talk) 06:16, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

• Chodakiewicz was previously discussed a month ago a AE (VM brought it up) - my intention had been to present a WP:ABOUTSELF article that was published in several articles. As for Koniuchy massacre - VM has been advocating inserting rather biased sources, as well as several PRIMARY sources (by an investigating agency (IPN) - using press releases by the IPN for stmts in Wiki voice - and approx. 3 people who were involved in the parallel Lithuanian investigation (which unlike the Polish (largely ignored), was covered by outside sources and was highly criticized) are alive), while removing English language academic sources. See - diff.Icewhiz (talk) 07:45, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

India-Pakistan relations

Thank you for your caution. Yes that is what I intended to restore. The user who turned up there has been tracking my edits and been filing a dubious report against me. He removed the note I added asking for sources, he then removed it giving another dubious reason. Obviously he does not want it there. Can you review the edit and add it there? I have not violated the topic ban and have not edited any India-Pakistan conflict pages.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 03:22, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

@NadirAli: That's not my area of expertise, so sorry, but I'm not going to get involved. What I'm trying to tell you is that even editing content on linguistics on that page is likely to land you in hot water. Vanamonde (talk) 04:27, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Can I explain it to you? You'll see my reasoning behind it. Problem is alot of people are not familiar with the term Hindustani, so adding that note will help the intro avoid possible future edit wars from others, not myself. That is why i'm avoiding the page and asking somebody to look into it.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 20:45, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, but no thanks, NadirAli. I really don't want to get involved, as I have enough on my plate at the moment. Vanamonde (talk) 04:42, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

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HiatusStatus

Hi! I've just reverted several of this user's contributions because they added blatantly fake information to articles, and in some cases, deleted correct information to add their bogus content. I glanced at their talk page and block log, and noticed you were the last to block them (they've already been blocked three times) with the explanation "Persistent addition of unsourced content. The previous block was for two weeks; the next is likely to be indefinite, unless the editor amends their ways." I would highly recommend indefing them at this point, as glancing through most of their previous contributions shows not a single helpful/truthful edit. Cheers, Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 15:10, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

@KatnissEverdeen: Apologies for the delay, but I've taken care of it now. Vanamonde (talk) 04:53, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Sharif

You left his photo on ITN. Stephen 11:30, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

@Stephen: Dammit. So I did. Fixed. Vanamonde (talk) 11:43, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

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RFA

See the edit summary of this edit.Regards,∯WBG^converse 11:19, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that. It's strange, because I don't recall it every being an issue when it was open; I should know, I read it through enough times....anyhow. Vanamonde (talk) 11:21, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

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Howdy--asking advice !

Hello Vanamonde93! Could you tell me how this articles fares against the FA criterion? Can the article pass through after rigorous improvements? I have recently been out of the content creation loop but I intend to return to content creation next month or so if my exams do not intervene. (chances are they won't) — FR ⁺ 16:32, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

I seem to remember looking over this a while ago. It's not in bad shape, but the major concern is going to be the level of detail. The GA criteria simply require an article to be broad in coverage, while FAC requires articles to be comprehensive. I don't want to discourage you, but do keep in mind that without detailed source material FAC can be difficult. I have worked on a number of pages that I will never take to FAC for that reason. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 17:09, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

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Rollback

Can you Review my Rollback Request? Thanks!Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:53, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

I see Beeblebrox has taken care of it. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 05:14, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

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Luis Arturo González López

Thanks for adding Luis Arturo González López to Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/July 26, but unfortunately, that article is a stub and so we can't use it. —howcheng {chat} 15:59, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

@Howcheng: It appears to be borderline to me; it certainly has more prose than other non-stubs frequently featured on the main page. That said, feel free to remove it if you have to: I'll try to expand it in the meantime, so I'd appreciate it if you let in remain in the staging area. Vanamonde (talk) 17:01, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Permission to Edit

Hello. I see you placed an indefinite edit lock for List of Steven Universe episodes. I would like permission to be allowed to make one edit. My edit reason being to remove the Guest-star listings that only should be added if the character/actor makes a single appearance. Thank you. SolidarityViewer (talk) 16:49, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

@SolidarityViewer: The page is only locked for new accounts and IP addresses. If you remain active, you'll be able to make the change you want in a couple of days. If it's urgent, you can use Template:Edit semi-protected: read the instructions there and post the template to the talk page with the change you want, and if it's reasonable, someone will make it. I'm afraid I'm not going to remove protection from the page for one user. Vanamonde (talk) 17:03, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Harari (clothing)

You speedy-deleted Harari (clothing) under G11. Would you mind closing the open AfD? I would but I'm involved in the discussion. Thanks Mortee (talk) 03:28, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

@Mortee: Done. Odd that I missed the AfD. Vanamonde (talk) 04:28, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Great, thanks! Mortee (talk) 13:23, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Talk page access

I reckon User talk:VandlismMan should have their TPA/toilet paper access taken away [1]. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 10:19, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

@DatGuy: About 24 hours overdue, actually...I've yanked talk page access and deleted the page for good measure. Vanamonde (talk) 10:35, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Luis Posada Carriles

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Editing Dispute in article Steve King resolved

Hello Vanamonde93, the editing dispute regarding categories in the article Steve King has been resolved in the following talk section Talk:Steve_King#Categories_not_established_in_article. I would like to request the editing lock to be lifted so I can edit the article accordingly. 91.17.204.20 (talk) 12:07, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Protection has expired while I was away. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 14:55, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Extreme Vandalism

Hello Vanamonde93, MBlaze Lightning has been reverting good version edits in the name of sockpuppet. Please take urgent action. I have already reported to WP:AIV and put my opinion in WP:RFPP but their too he is reverting my edits. Without proper judgement he previously reverted good and genuine edits of other users as well. Please check his backlog thoroughly. MBlaze Lightning (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)----------103.42.172.222 (talk) 08:24, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

I have looked into your edits, and it's fairly obvious that you are Kkm010. The only reason I'm not blocking you immediately is because of my involvement in a dispute with Kkm010 before that account was blocked for socking. Honestly, I'm baffled by your behavior. The few edits I reviewed appeared to add correct information, but to do so, you're evading a block (which means your edits will be reverted on sight, no matter their quality) and making preposterous accusations of vandalism. If you genuinely care about this content, then your only option is to avoid Wikipedia altogether for a few months, and then to go back to your original account and request an unblock. If you're not interested in the content and unwilling to take this route, you're more or less admitting you're here for the purposes of disruption; in which case please stay off my talk page. Vanamonde (talk) 09:41, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

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business user name

Hi, this user and username appears to be representing a business --> [2].... Another problem he is doing self promotional editing... but I Am not able to find the appropriate speedy deletion criteria or tag to tag this page... please advice me how to tag this for speedy... than you.. --Adamstraw99 (talk) 06:56, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

@Adamstraw99: The correct place to report that is Usernames for administrator attention. In this case, Abecedare has already blocked them. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 08:47, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

WikiLove, and a word of thanks

This cookie, and its associated WikiLove, is for the wide array of excellent editing work which you do daily to ameliorate the encyclopedia. Specifically though, it is for this diff. I was created a talk page archive when I stumbled back upon it. I didn't appreciate it at the time, but that diff, along with all the other little nudges in the right direction (particularly at WP:ITNC), was crucial in my development as an editor, as it reminded me of the value of consensus, and experience. I like to think that I have made the transition from novice to pseudo-experienced in terms of editing, and I obviously still have many miles to go, but it is nice to look back, and thank those who lent a word of advice and assistance. So thank you. Stormy clouds (talk) 22:01, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Why thank you, Stormy clouds, I appreciate it. It's always nice to find someone who finds advice helpful; so much of adminning is giving advice to people you know are going to ignore it. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 03:55, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

List of games with directx12 support

Hi! i've noticed this page has been deleted, i was wondering if I could start it up again. my plan is to resource all the information that was originally on the page with the producer/developer's pages. would that be ok? i just dont want to have something deleted if i start it up again. ill use it in the draft namespace aswell Cloaker416 (talk) 02:51, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

additionally the reason for its deletion is poor sources correct?Cloaker416 (talk) 03:02, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

@Cloaker416: I would usually be happy to give you a copy of such a page in your userspace, but in this case I'm not able to find the article in question; can you give me the exact title? It isn't "List of games with directx12 support", for sure. Vanamonde (talk) 04:21, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

sorry for responding in such a late fashion, List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support would be the title

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Ursula Le Guin's Biology in fiction

Hi Vanamonde, I've started a thematic 'in fiction' series to accompany the 'in culture' articles on specific groups. While working on the main article, Biology in fiction, I came across Helen Parker's Biological Themes in Modern Science Fiction, which discusses the biology of The Left Hand of Darkness in some detail. I've added a summary to Biology in fiction, and realise it might be useful at the book's article also. I could add something, or you might like to do it. At the very least, we might add a link. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:52, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

@Chiswick Chap: Thanks for bringing it to my attention: I'll take a look. A link would certainly be appropriate, and I've been considering expanding the reception section of that page for a while, so this may be a good occasion to do it, though I've a couple major RL deadlines to deal with first. Regards, Vanamonde (talk) 15:02, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

OK, maybe I'll get started gently. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:33, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

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thanks for the refs

[3], Will include them in the Redirect Target. --DBigXray 10:25, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome. Vanamonde (talk) 10:31, 5 August 2018 (UTC)