Talk:Yemenite Children Affair

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This article has many issues including an impartial and unbalanced presentation of the sides in this issue and lacks coherence and a proper structure. It lacks neutrality, references, inline citations. Therefore I added an box on top requesting cleanup and removed some lines that lacked citations. I will be trying to fix the article in the coming days. --Hakhamim (talk) 12:59, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There has been a recent article where Tzachi Hanegbi of the Likud party admitted the government's role in the "deliberate operation of stealing hundreds of children": http://english.aawsat.com/2016/08/article55355492/israel-finally-admits-kidnapping-yemeni-jewish-children-selling. This should be included at some point. -- Non-User, 11:56am(GMT), 04/08/16. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.206.152.3 (talk)

In the footsteps of the adoptees

Found a very detail article (In English) about the subject. Adding here a link. If someone willing to add this contest to the page I really appreciate it. Sokuya (talk) 20:26, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The article is sourced to an independent blog, it is written by Shlomi Hatuka, an activist who is employed by "AMRAM" an organization that claims that the yemenite community was the victim of genocide and nazi like experiments by the Israeli government. The article itself is NOT an academic source and contains MANY false claims which were disproven both by the national committees as well as through common sense (Ms. Zila Levine for instance was adopted in Sept 1948, the woman whom Hatuka claims is her mother only reported that her daughter went missing in January 1950.) According to all the comittees and all serious academic research (Dr. Dov Levitan is the chief researcher on this topic) years of search did not yield one single case of a person that was found alive despite his family being informed he was dead back in the 50s. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.25.94.130 (talk) 12:57, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

400,000 declassified documents

The article is out of date and needs to be updated in light of a new open database released by the Israel with 400,000 declassified documents.

--CyberXRef^☎ 23:00, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Article clean up / update

I have begun to update the article by checking sources with their corresponding edits, and by providing new cited information where necessary. Additionally, links to other Wiki pages have been added. Outlined below are some of the more significant changes that may merit discussion.

The intro was updated to include the number of missing children, along with the removal of WP:OR elements that were not supported. Chief among them, ‘possible disappearance’, has been edited to ‘disappearance’. The sources support the latter. The largely unresolved mystery here is not whether these children were reported missing or disappeared, but rather what actually happened to them.

By the same token, I have shortened the section heading, ‘Allegations of disappearances’ to just, ‘Disappearances’. Again, the disappearances are not disputed. Allegations in the article refer to what became of these children and what level of government, if any, was involved. Veritycheck✔️ (talk) 19:18, 24 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The disappearances are disputed, the children died, were buried and their death certificates were issued. The children disappeared only in the sense that the parents did not get to examine the bodies. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.25.94.130 (talk) 11:23, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If you can provide reliable sources that show there is a dispute, you are welcome to add it to the article. For more information, see the response already given here. Veritycheck✔️ (talk) 15:21, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Made up information in the article

1. The Israeli government did not in fact publish its findings in 2017, it established another Government Sanctioned Investigation Committee led by MK Nurit Koren (Likud), this new committee has the mandate to open up all existing archives, excavate graves and perform genetic tests. The committee is still active to this day (August 2018) - so far no official findings were published. 2. The article claims that the government "found the practice of some doctors to be criminally negligent" - first, as no findings were actually published in 2017 this claim is dubious, becomes even more dubious once you notice that the quoted article refers not at all to the transfusion of blood but rather to the failed attempted treatment of advanced malnutrition through the introduction of intravenous sustenance (A practice which today is known to be lethal to the patient, regretfully back in 1951 there was no known treatment for advanced malnutrition). In addition, the article claims that "Such practices brought about the untimely death of some children, who were previously robust and healthy" - which is perhaps written in the (unscientific) article in Yisrael Hayom however it is not at all what's written in Dr. Mendel's medical report that is quoted in the article, it is never said that the children are healthy, the quote from the letter "The patho-physiological conditions of the children were more or less stable before treatment was given, but rapid deterioration occurred soon after" - given that Dr. Mendel is discussing 4 infants suffering from malnutrition it takes a rather disingenuous reading (such as that provided in Yisrael Hayom) to understand that he performed malicious medical experiments in "healthy and robust" children. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.25.94.130 (talk) 11:22, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There are reliable sources throughout the article that support the information given. It is not for Wikipedia editors to personally decide what is true or not, but merely to report. See the following policies: WP:NPOV, WP:RS,and WP:VERIFY. If you would like to edit the article by adding other points of views that are supported by reliable sources, you are free to do so. Remember to include your citations or your edits may be deleted. Personal points of view have no place on Wikipedia. Veritycheck✔️ (talk) 15:11, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I reviwed citations 18 and 19, the articles from Haaretz and Yisrael Hayom, at now point do they make the claim that the 'government published its findings' at 2017. making the framing of the entire paragraph fictitious.