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1600 SAT score?

WHEN did this guy take the test? When he was 17? Or when he was 37? Any reasonably intelligent adult can blow that test out of the water. Because it isn't DESIGNED to test adult skills. It's designed to test high school kids.

Did Strom take it in High School? Did he ever go to a college? If not, I say remove this pathetic pat-on-the-back remark. It's designed to make him seem like some sort of genius; and clearly, he isn't.

That is a great point as well. We should mention the ambiguous time in which he claims his score as well, as opposed to simply saying "Kevin Strom earned a perfect score on the SATs..."

A source would help the most. Benjiboi 03:26, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, he has never attended any university. Nor has he been very successful in the "pro-white" movement for that matter, as he has been expelled from the National Alliance, followed by the disbanding of the National Vanguard due to troubles with him and his personal life. We have no proof of his perfect SAT score at all, and that is because the only source is Kevin Strom himself!! Rock8591 00:37, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Children's Names

Someone recently introduced the names of Strom's children. Someone else (not me) reverted the changes. I support this. The most recent information available on the net indicates that the children are in the custody of Strom's ex-wife, who is trying to give them a normal upbringing. It's not their fault their father is involved in hate groups. Let's give them some space. Hatewatcher 00:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More on the 1600 SAT score

My understanding is that Kevin Alfred Strom took the SAT at the standard age (17-18). The above remarks on this topic represent a highly biased and essentially useless point of view. Kevin Alfred Strom is clearly a man with a high IQ, and if not a university graduate, is certainly a man who is very personally well-read & informed. The idea that as a White Nationalist, he is somehow by definition not an intelligent man is simply unsuitable for an encyclopedic website such as Wikipedia.KevinOKeeffe 21:43, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If we had a reliable source for this information then it might be noteworthy. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 07:53, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, he has never attended any university. Nor has he been very successful in the "pro-white" movement for that matter, as he has been expelled from the National Alliance, followed by the disbanding of the National Vanguard due to troubles with him and his personal life. We have no proof of his perfect SAT score at all, and that is because the only source is Kevin Strom himself!! Rock8591 00:37, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
He was expelled from the National Alliance at a time when it had basically ceased to exist, due to gross mismanagement following the death of Dr. Pierce; he was expelled for trying to end that gross mismanagement (as was I). Back when the National Alliance actually mattered, under Dr. Pierce's leadership, he served for many years as its Media Director, and thus was one of those most prominent American National Socialists of the post-Second World War era. KevinOKeeffe (talk) 08:32, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If Kevin Strom were intelligent, or any other racist for that matter, they would not be a racist. You sir are of a questionable source for this article as you are an admitted friend of a pedophile racist. I think the FBI should investigate you to see if you were sharing in his obsession. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.162.204.39 (talk) 09:26, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Elisha Strom & Allegations of Strom's Celibate Second Marriage, and the use of Overthrow.com as a source

I deleted the remarks in which it is stated that Elisha Strom told the Southern Poverty Law Center that she and Mr. Strom never had sexual relations during the years she was married to him. I have a slight acquaintance with Elisha Strom, and she claims the Southern Poverty Law Center fabricated this claim ie., that she never made it.

Additionally, Bill White's website, Overthrow.com, was cited as the source for this allegation on the part of the SPLC. Bill White's own Wikipedia article contains substantial info calling into question his reliability as a source. Frankly, anyone who believes anything they read at Bill White's Overthrow.com is a bit of a fool. Its (literally) chock full of stories about how he beat up 10 bikers at once, for instance. The entire site is laughable (it reads almost as a parody; see for yourself if you don't believe me), and should NEVER be cited as a source for Wikipedia on ANY topic, not just Kevin Alfred Strom (Bill White hates Kevin Alfred Strom, and has publicly released an open letter to Kevin Alfred Strom in which he lauds the idea of his being homosexually raped; clearly Mr. White is not an objective source on this issue). I'd further maintain he's not a credible source on any other topic (and anything posted on Overthrow.com should be assumed to have been authored by Bill White, unless it is explicitly stated otherwise, and even then its questionable).KevinOKeeffe 21:58, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with KevinOKeeffe, I stumbled upon that site as well and it is VERY laughable. For example, here is an article they have on Kevin Strom - notably the final paragraph. [1] Rock8591 00:56, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm not trying to make fun of you, but I think that you need a sourcefor the first claim. Smith Jones (talk) 02:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
O'Keefe is of a questionable source himself as he's an admitted friend of this pedophile piece of garbage Nazi scum Kevin Strom, meaning he is likely a white supremacist and biased. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.162.204.39 (talk) 09:24, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

O'Keeffe is more than just a pal of Kevin Strom's. He's a convicted felon who spent time in the California prison system for making threats against the Jewish Community Center in San Jose, and was a co-member, with Strom, of the National Alliance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.127.182.39 (talk) 01:46, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

RfC

Light bulb iconBAn RfC: Which descriptor, if any, can be added in front of Southern Poverty Law Center when referenced in other articles? has been posted at the Southern Poverty Law Center talk page. Your participation is welcomed. – MrX 16:52, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Secondary Sources are Hearsay

This article relies too much on secondary sources. While other people saying he was a fascist/nazi/racist IS relevant, it should be providing context for what he did that was actually fascist/nazi/racist. There is one quote in there showing his obvious horrific racism, but the other claims are only hearsay based on this article. To put this another way, it would be pretty easy to find sources that say President Obama is fascist/nazi/racist. That doesn't mean he is any of those things. It means people love hyperbole. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:BC7C:CE20:254A:D807:9B6E:D27B (talk) 09:52, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Maintenance of innocence

The fact that Strom maintains his innocence seems, to me, to be extremely relevant to the article. However, it's just tucked away at the end of the trial section of the article. From the source I ascertain that Mr. Strom pleaded guilty in order to minimise his sentence and avoid being separated from his own family for even longer.

However, someone reading only the introduction to the article for a quick summary of Strom's notability would only see that he pleaded guilty to charges of child pornography. Is this not omitting an important point? I'll add the relevant information to the introduction if there's no dispute on this subject, but it might start an edit war if I do so without first leaving this query. This is, after all, a legal matter.

Edit: Also, apparently his counselor found him to be free of paedophilia.[2] This, too, may be relevant enough for inclusion in the article. Kapitulasjon (talk) 09:27, 28 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is absolutely no reason to add anything about Strom "maintaining his innocence." Many convicted felons do that, and make the same sort of claims about selective prosecution and "I was framed" that Strom has made.
The actual real world fact is that Strom pled guilty, was convicted of felonies and was sent to prison for his crimes. No excuse-making or claims to the contrary will change that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.152.104.142 (talk) 03:23, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Misattribution Quote

Can someone confirm that Voltaire really didn't say "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"? It doesn't seem correct to assume that having a quote of similar wording implies ownership. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.117.53.106 (talk) 16:16, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This really isn't a WP:RFC, but nevermind. Strom says he's often misquoted[3]. Wikiquote says it's not Voltaire's, but Wikiquote isn't a reliable source. And see this. No sources before 2012. Doug Weller talk 17:13, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
RFC removed as it isn't really RFC. Anyway, since the sources around this are unreliable, until such time that there is sufficient evidence to say that Voltaire didn't quote this, can this section be rewritten such that it is made clear that Strom does not own Voltaire's quote?

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