Talk:Pure Pwnage

This article was nominated for deletion: on Apr 9 2005 with a result of keep: discussion on Jan 4 2006 with a result of keep: discussion on Mar 24 2006 with a result of keep: discussion

Message from PP

"I dont know much about how to edit wikipedia - but I'd like to request that the "synopsis" be removed, or at least replaced with something that doesn't ruin jokes in the episode by revealing information that nobody wants to know in the most dull way possible. Even if we had released the episode, this is a terrible synopsis. -Kyle"

Please don't post spoilers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ximensions (talk • contribs) .

I imagine the request for synopsis removal only referred to the extra-long synopsis that existed before the current succinct one in the "List of Pure Pwnage episodes" page...? Or should all the spoilers for every episode be removed? Nawara Ven 06:50, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

I think you're right, NV. I think it's more logical if Ximensions meant don't spoil jokes; that's what Kyle hated about the synopsis. --70.25.168.90 22:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

if not, shouldn't matter-- it's wikipedia's turf (non censored information). 72.150.8.234 03:59, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I think we still ought to try not to be assholes towards the show's… staff. --70.25.168.90 22:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

More useful info

A voice chat session was conducted soon after the episode 7 release, during which the pure pwnage crew answered questions from fans around the globe. There was quite a bit of interesting info to gain from listening to recordings of the chat session. Some of this info should probably be worked into the article here. One such recording is currently at http://chigau.com/ppchat-edited.mp3 Another artifact related to the show would be Anastasia's blog. However, I cannot ascertain the true nature of this blog (whether it's Anastasia's 'real' blog, or just a prop set up for the show). Despite the fact that it is claimed to be the real blog, during the chat session mentioned above, I find it hard to believe the claim, due to the language used throughout the blog itself. Eleusis July 5, 2005 12:27 (UTC)

You can bet your life it's not real ;-) Jalada

The fact that the blog mentions Jeremy being put in the hospital for playing WoW is an obvious give away that the blog is purely fictional. --Kaleb.G 02:07, August 20, 2005 (UTC)

Don't be so sure. That's how I felt until I started looking around a bit more. Listen to the chat, read the blog, browse some of their forums. Now I'm not so sure. Considering that the blog starts before the sixth episode it seems pretty real and the way they keep mentioning on the forums that when they have PP meets people can't belive how close to the truth the show is. --Aupajo

It's fiction, partly based on real life. Come on, if you think PP is really happening watch the 9th episode.

It will not be known as the blog has been discontinued, before episode 9 and therfore may have been real until the plot of the show had been completed.

The blog has been updated recently, but it has to be fictional as the World of Warcraft feats mentioned are obviously impossible.

-someonelse: well actually, i agree with aupajo. I'm not saying that people can shoot micro, or that dave used to be some kind of micro warrior, but its possible that the crew used to act like they do in the first couple episodes, and changed their ways.

Reviews of Pure Pwnage

by Anonymous (67.140.145.26)

Essentially Jeremy embodies the very scum of online gaming in a package that is all too familiar. Pathetic vocabulary skills, general lack of anything resembling cultural knowledge, and the lifestyle of the perpetual slacker round out the package nicely. This is, unfortunately, what most people think of when you say 'gamer' unless you're talking about the pen and paper variety, which has it's own features (among them, the thankful lacking of the word "n00b") that set it apart. All in all I think this is a good parody of the gamer lifestyle, but unfortunately the misguided masses of preteens will attempt to emulate it further than they do on their own. Online gaming is bad enough these days without stirring up that particular cesspool any more than needed. In the end, it makes me yearn for the days of my youth when Quake's seperate online client was released. Those were days when people would actually have intelligent conversation until the server filled up enough for a good game of CTF. (and that was before there even WAS a flag... it was a key) Now, it's all n00b fagz0rz l0ll0rz!!!11!!!1one and corpse humping until you get bored and leave. I can only hope that this scathing satire of that type of behavior will help show new gamers how NOT to act.

and what, may i ask, does this pov have to do with wikipedia?65.6.109.43 04:18, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Not much, if not anything. This review was moved here after a Wikipedian noticed it in the main article and decided not to just scrap the whole thing. --70.25.168.90 18:17, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

soundtrack

The "soundtrack" line erroneously identified Kyle as the male singer in the "World of Warcraft is a feeling" video. It isn't however; one of the great mysteries at the official Pure Pwnage forums is apparently what Kyle looks like. If the singer was really Kyle, one would assume that mystery had already been cleared up.

Does anyone know what the name of the song is that plays as FPS_Doug's theme?--BryanSime 09:09, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Stableboy Holiday appears courtesy of LarG Productions in episode 6, starting at around 6:04. it plays during the blind-date. The track itself is a collaboration of lofi samples and serves as background bar-music.

'pronounced "Pure Pwnage"'

This is almost certainly a joke, and does not belong in the article. Either it should be removed or replaced with a proper pronounciation. I'd do it myself, but I pronounce that word "poonage" and people would probably disagree. --Zootm 11:48, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

It's "Pure Ownage" - it's prounounced like this on the title screen of every episode (with a voiceover) - I'm not sure if it's been changed in the article yet though. --FranksValli 23:44, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Quotes

This is just IMHO, but I think the quotes be moved to Wikiquote and a link made to the article there. --breadcrust 10:39, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Done. --Aupajo

Episode Descriptions

I think the episode descriptions should be re-done so that they are more encyclopedic and factual. In their current state they aren't very suitable. --cheese-cube 10:30, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

agreed, and i think i'll add a bunch of edits soon Teh wumasterer 02:11, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Kyle

Was that actually Kyle in ep 9? If it was, then who was holding the camera? It might have just been put there to make fun of the fact that we never see Kyle (cept by acccident) since they made sure the camera was always in front of his face. Is this a Home Improvement reference (hiding Wilson's face)? Anyone actually seen him in RL to verify if its the same person? --Prod-You 04:51, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

as an episode series and not a documentary, the viewer is meant to think that kyle is the person holding the camera, and i see no evidence that we should believe otherwise (anyone could shoot third person). while the same principle, lets not go as far as to say they're making reference to home improvement.

Kyle is the camera man in episode nine (seen lying on the ground with his face hidden behind a camera) He has been seen in person by fans (including myself) at the episode 10 premiere although it was asked that pictures of his face not be posted. Alot of work was done in episode 9 as seen in the behind the scenes special at the episode 10 release, including other camera men, professional lighting and cranes for overhead shots. Also in the pure pwnage world we do not always see in 3rd person, as seen in episode 4 where Kyle is not allowed into teh_masterers room although we still see what is going on inside.

Even though we all know Kyle's real name is Adam, and somebody took that out of the trivia area...the cheat 00:37, 2 July 2006 (UTC) - But is that actually proven that his name is Adam?

Considering durring "Happy Birthday Jakob", "Jamie" is talking to the cameraman, and calls him Adam several times, before "Kyle" tells "Jamie" to call him "Kyle", we can safely assume "Kyle"'s real name is Adam. Also, I'd have to take a look, but Jeremy's real name isn't Jeremy either.the cheat 23:56, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

This is hardly concrete evidence regarding the real names of Kyle and Jeremy, as the video was after all released by the pure pwnage crew themselves. As of now, they have insisted on keeping their identities secret(until the premiere of episode 12 that is, according to the website) and so it is unlikely that they had leaked their real names purposefully so early on.

references?

"Although it doesn't show in the episodes, the only person who FPS Doug ever feared was ParaDoX (also known under the name "Kaimikaze"), an even more hardcore CS player."

There are other statements like this in the article. What evidence of this is there?

I believe none. In fact, I believe that this may be just some fan's CS username, and they're trying to be funny or cool or whatever, but if so they've failed. --PowerGamer6

Organization

Right now, I see the article as fairly disorganized. There are several pieces of information and theories that are repeated. For example, the defeat of deathstriker6666 is written in both his character description and the episode 8 synopsis.

The article is pretty inconsistent; it's always varying between "First-person shooter", "FPS", "First person shooter (FPS)" and "FPS (first-person shooter)", "Real-time strategy", "RTS", "Real time strategy (RTS)" and "RTS (real-time strategy)", and "n00b", "noob" and "newb". I think the article should just stick to the abbreviations "FPS" and "RTS", with a note for both and a small link to the note after front of FPS or RTS instead of having a link outside of the article each time. I have a bit of trouble decided whether to use "n00b" or to use "noob" for this article because the Pure Pwnage subtitle files are inconsistent, but I've decided to use "n00b" because of Jer's shirt. Both the subtitle files and the show seldom, if ever, use "newb", so I oppose the use of "newb" in the Pure Pwnage article.

Well, that's all I could think of right now. Any comments/agreements/disagreements towards this would be appreciated. If there happens to be any firm agreement, please help out and edit some of the article in that agreed style! --70.25.168.90 07:32, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

"Counter-Strike: Source", "CSS", "CS:S" and "CS" are also moderately inconsistent. I'd like to make a note for that one and go with the abbreviation "CS:S" to avoid confusion with Cascading Style Sheets. --70.25.168.90 17:49, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Since deathstriker isn't a recurring character like the others, it'd probably be better to describe him through the episode portion. Either that or have a section for the other non recurring characters. Other than that, it'd be nice to have a picture of Kyle (with camera over face). 65.6.109.43 13:35, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Mmm, you have some good points. I like the idea of creating a section with non-recurring characters! (Any comments from others would be appreciated.) And yes, I'm going to start getting some pictures (if nobody gets them in the near future) of Kyle, Dawei, and perhaps Anastasia because I don't like the harsh blue tint. --70.25.168.90 06:24, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Please do Nawara Ven 02:30, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

I completely agree. "FPS" and "RTS" are pretty standard and should be used; "n00b" most accurately conveys the feeling Jeremy seems to have for them; "CS:S" is the accepted abbreviation. And you're right in that articles should not be wikilinked repeatedly - in the case of "jargon" or specialized terminology, generally the best solution is to use {{ref}}. — flamingspinach | (talk) 18:02, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

We now need to find a consistent style to address the episodes. For example, should we write "Episode #", "Episode # - [Title]", or "The episode [Title]"? We should definitely get rid of the "In the episode when/where [event]" clauses because it's non-concise and not as specific. Also, noob or n00b? If there aren't any replies, I'll pick what to use for the article myself. --70.25.168.90 00:38, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

I've personally just used the episode name, simply because there are so few that the name is more descriptive than the number. I've been changing everything to n00b myself... but that seems to be a mistake. "No noobs up in this 'ma" and the spelling in the subtitles says "noob". I would endorse changing it to "noob", not "n00b". Nawara Ven 02:30, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Suggestions

IMHO this article is in serious need of some slimming down. Here are some suggestions (I think it'd be better if someone who has actually watched Pure Pwnage rather than just heard of it, as I have, would be better at editing this article for something other than grammar):

• Get the plot summaries out of the characters section. It's useless to have a {{spoiler}} tag so far down the page if you're going to start explaining the plot instantly in Jeremy's desription. It's the character section and should be pretty simple, like "Jeremy is a pro gamer who primarily plays RTS games". (Of course not that small but the size they're at now is ridiculous.)

• Information about rumors of Kyle's appearance or Teh_Masterer's actor is spurious, so those should probably be cut as well. Just come out and state what's known and don't state anything that's unknown.

• "FPS Doug: A Biography" should be totally deleted because it serves no purpose whatsoever. We already know about FPS Doug because of his description right above that, and the whole thing is just a spoiler. I swear, the deathstriker6666 sequence is described at least three times in the article. I recommend to completely scrap this section.

• Make the episode summaries more uniform. The first few are a good length; the summaries of episodes 8 and 9 are way too long. Maybe 6 as well.

• Edit for grammar. There are tons of errors, including bad comma use, dangling modifiers, etc.

Thanks. — flamingspinach | (talk) 05:07, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

• • Great, thanks for your suggestions! I was planning to do a major revision of the article before the end of the holidays, and this has made it much easier; thank you! I've watched all the episodes, therefore I think I'm qualified to help out with the first 4 procedures. (I've come to realize that my grammar is fairly weak whether or not it is apparent.) But one issue that I would also like to sort out is in the above topic, regarding the inconsistencies of "First-person shooters", "Real-time strategy", etc. I would like your input (if you wouldn't mind) because I believe that the eradication of these inconsistencies belong in your good list of suggestions. Thanks, --70.25.168.90 07:09, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
  • I've relieved episodes 6, 8, and 9 of some excessive detail. Do you think it's enough? I have some problems with further shortening Episode 9 because it has much plot compared to all previous episodes. Oh yeah, props to Infinity0 for removing "FPS Doug: A Biography" (no offense to the author). --70.25.168.90 06:53, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

IMHO your treatment of episode 8 is sufficient, but 6 and 9 still could do with some slimming down. In general I think an episode summary which doesn't go over the exact events (such as episode 5) is how they should all be. — flamingspinach | (talk) 18:06, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Revision as of 08:42, 21 January 2006

Why was all that information deleted? Trimmed down, perhaps, but all of it? Please explain your massive deletion better than "this is a fucking encyclopedia". Fictional worlds are discussed on other pages. 222.2.137.193 11:54, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

I think the cleanup is coming along nicely; we can almost remove the "cleanup" tag. Almost. 220.0.164.65 16:42, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Is there anything to keep the cleanup tag for? The article looks very clear to me. Cristan 22:26, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Up in this ma'

Can anyone confirm or deny that "up in this ma'" is a play on the hip-hop term "up in this (neighbour)hood", and that "ma" stands for "metropolitan area", namely, Toronto? Obviously, this is my understanding of "ma". 220.0.164.65 04:09, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I remember someone asking about this on the PP forums, and the general idea seemd to be that "ma" is short for "mother", which is in turn short for "motherfucker". --24.136.39.204 04:47, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Hm, that's not as exciting as I'd hoped for it to be. I can't think of a place where that tidbit might go in the article. Nawara Ven 08:10, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

>I figured it meant 'mall'. But it's gone now.

Actually I asked one of my hip-hop savvy friends and he says it is in fact, "motherfucker". --PowerGamer6

Other sections

Would anyone be objected to the addition a section about the show's filming style, as discussed in the teamspeak interview, and/or a section elaborating "Micro Battles"?

Micro-ing a non-gamer?

note 8 states that "it is unknown that these abilites would be effective when used against a non-gamer character". In episode 9's micro battle, a member of the group that attacked Jeremy and co uses micro to blast Kyle to the ground. Kyle is frequently reffered to as "a total noob" and, thus far in the series hasn't played a single game, with the exception of Zero Hour in ep 4, which was only for the purpose of creating the purple vs pink skit. This incident shos that micro can be effective against non-gamers.

Well if the Pure Pwnage comic is to beleived, around page eight the guy chasing jeremy is micro-ed by [ps]Ridley, if that is the name...

Microing a non gamer is a bad question. Microing a noob? Yes, it is effecive, as shown through Kyle and (Ps)Ridley Microing the guy in said comic.Quatreryukami 20:58, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Headshot or Manshot?

from a non-native English-speaker:

I can be wrong, but in episode 5 (M8) isn't Doug saying: "come on! try to hit me! boom! MANSHOT! take tath bitch!"? --User:Mdob

It's definately "headshot", as attacking an opponent's head results in a one-hit kill. The purepwnage store has "headshot" t-shirts, too. Nawara Ven 23:44, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

lol --84.249.252.211 15:55, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Pure Pwnage: The Comic

Is it fair enough to create a Wikipedia entry for it and leave a brief description in this article? —nlitement ^[talk] 22:21, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't; it's very minor and hasn't even been created yet. If it grows so that it's as big as the webisode, then perhaps. But not now. Infinity0 ^talk 22:25, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Story section?

Is it the same as "synopsis"? I don't think any article about a series has a "story" section other than a brief description about it, which Pure Pwnage already has, and when it already has episode synopses. I'll draw over the Story to-do. —nlitement ^[talk] 22:31, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

List of Pure Pwnage episodes Infinity0 ^talk 22:37, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Anastasia in “Girls”?

MMO-playing Anastasia is Jeremy’s first love-interest on Pure Pwnage. She is interviewed in the episode Girls, though the audience never sees her meet Jeremy until Imapwnu of Azeroth.

Is this really true? If so, when is she interviewed in episode 2? — Daniel Brockman 06:30, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

You see her in... the interviews. She's just one of the girls they interview. Nawara Ven 09:01, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I don’t know why I don’t recognize her. What does she say? — Daniel Brockman 09:18, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Dude, you're right. I thought she was the "gamers use their hands for 12 hours a day" girl, but this is not the case. Nawara Ven 03:51, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Anastasia isn't interviewed in episode 2, Jeremy says that he talked to a girl who was impressed with his gaming skill while Kyle was away, which we assume was a lie. Later, in episode 6, Jeremy meets Anastasia again on a blind date, which is the first time we see her. Ted BJ 00:25, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Trivia

I think the trivia goes better on the main page... not all the trivia is related to the plots of the episodes. Also, the main page isn't particularly long. Nawara Ven 03:51, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Episode title formatting

I think we should write the episode titles like the following (with quotes),

MMO-playing Anastasia is Jeremy’s first love-interest on Pure Pwnage. She is interviewed in the episode “Girls”, though the audience never sees her meet Jeremy until “Imapwnu of Azeroth”.

rather than like they are currently written (with italics):

MMO-playing Anastasia is Jeremy’s first love-interest on Pure Pwnage. She is interviewed in the episode Girls, though the audience never sees her meet Jeremy until Imapwnu of Azeroth.

I’d give a reference to the relevant part of the style guide but I’m lazy and I’m guessing people will agree anyway. Actually I’ll just go ahead and do this. — Daniel Brockman 06:37, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Good idea Nawara Ven 09:01, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Pictures

Would someone please put up a beter picture of Anastasia, the current one is poor 64.9.5.21 18:13, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

How about this one? — Daniel Brockman 10:04, 28 February 2006 (UTC) File:Anastasia (Pure Pwnage).jpg

Hmm, seems no different aprat from the lighting. I think it's better to have one of her *whole* face. Infinity0 ^talk 17:01, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

It’s kinda hard to find a good-looking frame in which she’s looking into the camera and her face is decently sized. I’m actually doubtful as to whether there are any good closeup shots of her at all in the whole series so far. — Daniel Brockman 05:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Either pic is fine. This new one does show her complexion better, though. Nawara Ven 08:41, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Why don't you just use pictures from the noobstore? (Ask for permission first)

I have good pictures of all of the cast from the Episode 10 release what are the rules for posting personal pics of others on Wikipedia? (coyright ect)

Grab the pic from her blog.

I agree with myself in the above comment. If it is on her blog, then it must be public domain, right? --PowerGamer6 04:43, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Forgot to put words jeremy likes

Jeremy likes saying purepwnage words like teh ownage and teh pwnerer and n00bs and stuff like that. Oh, the website is www.purepwnage.com, the episodes are cool there.

Jeremy on Uber Micro

The initial argument for deleting Jeremy's PC gamer quote about Uber mirco was that it belonged on wikiquote. However, this quote reinforces the discussion above it. This is how quotation is used in articles of any kind. Removing it is removing useful information. This article is lacking in quotations and references as it is. Nawara Ven 03:55, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Dave Filming?

In episode 1, when jeremy enters the restaurant, in the reflection of the glas, it looks like Dave. Though you just see a small part, doesn't it look like dave? Verkon 20:05, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Masterer talking?

In epsiode 2, girls, doesn't it sound like teh_masterer that annouces the headlines between the girls talking. Verkon 20:05, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I belive it's the same man, very likely. <stereotype>Some linguist, kanske</stereotype>? --nlitement ^[talk] 00:57, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Funny thing

In epdisode 5, m8's, the Cs:s spray logo with FPS DOug and the text "boom headshot" under it can be seen at 08:51. Verkon 21:25, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it is pretty interesting, if you look closely at the other episodes you can find odd things like that, if you find other odd things like this, you can list them in the "Easter Eggs" and "Continuity Errors" section at List of Pure Pwnage episodes. Thrawst 05:27, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Geoff Lapaire

I just reworded and added a link verifying more information in the last sentence of the note about Geoff Lapaire. This note seems to be getting long (longer than the description of Teh_Masterer himself), but I don't consider myself to be qualified to decide which, if any, of the information is unnecessary, or should be moved to the section on Teh_Masterer, or possibly a new section on Rumors, etc. --Anaraug 21:54, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Lyke theese n00bs got totally pwned ryte?

What the hell is with people adding this page to AfDs? It's never going to pass and you think that after three strong keeps they would realize that this page deserves its place in the wikipedia! --DragonWR12LB 04:11, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

The deletion atempts were even mentioned on the show's Official Website

This is one of the downsides of Wikipedia's policy for allowing all kinds of views on Wikipedia. People should be banned who think that the Pure Pwnage entry should be deleted. Why not delete them, instead? I think nobody cares about them anyways. Oh, well, when they start all these AfDs with "cool" vocabularies using latin, y'know, "per nom et al, quod erat demonstrandum", they get respect for being deletionists, after all, most AfDs are based on stupid prejudices, often, or if not always, this type of users don't quite know what the hell is going on and what they nominate for deletion (maybe it's their neighbour?). When they accomplish such, they often become adminship nominees, and get votes for their supposed NPOV. I don't quite know how much I contradicted myself by talking about prejudice, but, oh well, at least I haven't been explained yet that why Wikipedia tolerates AfDs that were initiated by users who have done no research on the subject, simply no knowledge about it. I think there should be a "VAfD" ("vote for articles for deletion") to avoid pissing people off and save a bit more time (overall, better than the current system). --nlitement ^[talk] 22:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Autism

Jeremy is totally autistic. Check out the wikipedia article on autism. He has all of the symptoms except retardation.

No he apears to be more of a asperigian(like me)this includes low social skills and abnormaly high intelligence especial in area of interest. (in Jeremy's cause pwning noobs)

Sign your fucking comments, please :)... --nlitement ^[talk] 15:02, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Very polite, indeed. :-D Federico Pistono ✆ ✍ 04:24, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I will admit, Jeremy does indeed display signs of Aspergers. However, I highly doubt that they intended for this connection to made and saying that he suffers from that condition is way too analytical. -Mafiosostory

Teh_Masterer

In the article is stated:

Some believe it is actually Kyle, behind the mask, thus another reason why we may never see his face.

however, in Episode 4, at 17:57s Teh_Masterer's face is clearly revealed by Jeremy. Is is just is immagination? If so, what proof do we have? And why isn't that even mentioned neither in the main article nor in the Episode listing? Federico Pistono ✆ ✍ 04:44, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

It's a joke. In The Empire Stikes Back, Luke kills Darth Vader in a cave on Dagobah. Vaders mask explodes and reveals lukes face. All they did was copy this. Interestingly though, we have NEVER heard anything about Jeremy's father, only his mother and Vader turned out to be lukes father. To copy star wars like that would be so lame that it would go full circle and be totally cool.--Nayl 06:05, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

That's Jeremy who's "revealed" as teh_masterer. And no, he doesn't regularly play teh_masterer, Geoff Lapaire does. --nlitement ^[talk] 11:00, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

The identity of the guy behind the masterer's mask has NEVER BEEN UNDISCLOSED... there are just "theories". Where it says "he claims that he once “beat Garry Kasparov and Deep Blue with nothing more than a row of pawns and a single bishop,” which is of course impossible, since to win a chess game it is necessary to have a King." I think that whoever wrote that, got the line wrong: teh_masterer obviously meant that he checkmated Kasparov moving just some pawns and a bishop. --200.28.67.65 07:02, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

To the above poster, I think you mean has never been disclosed not undisclosed. And anyway, Kyle does not play Teh_Masterer. I've seen him in person and he looks nothing like Teh_Masterer, but then again, without the mask and stuff... it is kind of hard to tell. And ctually, there was an image of Kyle revealed up on the page not too long ago... (PowerGamer6 03:05, 15 July 2006 (UTC))

I think it should be removed that people belive Kyle plays teh_masterer, if you look at the facial fetures its a lot more likely he is played by Geoff Lapaire (especaily because he has a PP link on his website at http://www.physics.utoronto.ca/~glapaire/ --BlackCow 11:39, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

The “beat Garry Kasparov and Deep Blue with nothing more than a row of pawns and a single bishop,” line is supposed to be funny, not necessarily serious. Its just implying Teh_Master is that awsome, uber, leet, pwnage, pro, ect.

This is all unnecessary as in episode 12 there are the full credits including director and the actors that play teh_masterer's character and those who do his voice. The end of episode 12 will make all of these things clear and the entire Pure Pwnage article will need a ton of updating. But not until after November 6th 2006 @ 5pm EST

Request for list of all released videos

It would be nice to have a list of all the videos the PP team produced for PP. For example the "Happy Birthday Jakob" video is just mentioned in the notes section. The E3 2006 video (http://www.purepwnage.com/e32006.html) should also be listed, since being a news item/forum post it will get buried as time passes. 83.67.100.171 08:49, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your provisions, but there is already a list with brief synopses: List of Pure Pwnage episodes, which is linked at #The_episodes. --70.25.168.90 09:00, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

User boxes

{{User PurePwnage}}

Template:User PurePwnage

Enjoy! --DragonWR12LB 19:41, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

lol thanks mate =P. ~ EmeZxX 06:08, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Geoff = Kyle?

An anon added that Geoff is Kyle's real name. I think this is obviously false, so I reverted it, but if anyone has somehow gotten any new, verifiable, source on the characters identities, feel free to unrevert and cite the source. --Anaraug 22:37, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

You know, don't be so sure of "obviously fake"; you did the right thing, though, since there is no way to cite that until the DVD is released. I have my own reasons to believe that is true, but it's irrelative. --nlitement ^[talk] 23:09, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

This will be revealed in episode 12

Phrases Section

...what the heck? I've seen all of these used well before this even existed. Saying that the phrases or originated with this is incredibly incorrect. I'm removing the section. JONJONAUG 12:44, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

After removing it. Just clarifying here. The show was started in 2004. I've been playing online games since 1999. I've seen this stuff on Battle.net, many MMORPGs, and other games since I've started. It's nothing new, ask any gamers that played games since before they were as popular as today. JONJONAUG 12:50, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay, it might not have been POPULARISED by the show, but the phrases have definitely been used. We can remove popularised from the heading if you wish. But, I have put that section you deleted back in. How about we give other people a chance to discuss this before we actually remove it? ~ EmeZxX 02:31, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

The phrases are used everywhere, they are hardly unique in any way. JONJONAUG 16:40, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

You removed phrases like "boom, headshot!" and "über micro", silly man. --nlitement ^[talk] 16:42, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't think these were used anywhere prior to PP.  Grue  19:12, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

And Jon's removed it again *rolls eyes*. Well I won't put it back yet, to prevent an edit war. And nlitement's right, I doubt you ever heard uber micro or before that. ~ EmeZxX 08:35, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Wrong. I've heard it on numerous occasions before 2004, as well as many others from the 'Pharses' list. I think Jon is justified in removing it. And as the top of the article clearly says, the article needs cleaned up. Ixistant 16:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Put them back put them bacckkk! I haven't heard some ever before this. HawkXZ 02:56, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

This is a BS arguement. No one on this earth can prove where the prases came from. We CAN say they were popularized by Jeremy and Doug.Quatreryukami 13:56, 13 October 2006 (UTC)QuatreRyukami

Episode 12 rumor

Hey, is it true that 12 was filmed in a member of the PP forum's house? Clarification and add to site would be nice.Quatreryukami 18:43, 11 October 2006 (UTC)QuatreRyukami

About Dave + where he is

According to Jeremy, whom I met at the Metro Toronto Convention in August, the reason for Dave's character not being set down is the fact that he recently graduated. As an engineer grad he's currently looking for work. Because of his profession it might not be possible for him to stay with the PP crew. He had a large interview in vancouver at the time the comic was being made. 216.249.48.173 04:56, 3 November 2006 (UTC) RAD

This article requires further attentiona and cleanup. When need to decide what to do with the descriptions of the characters, for example in the show the character Dave went to China-that's a fact. In the webcomic the character went to Vancouver - refferencing what really happened when the "actor" who played Dave moved vancouver (as said in a teamspeak interview).--158.123.153.254 16:18, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

This is funny. The user wont even put his name up! I call BS on this oneQuatreryukami 20:56, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm new to using wiki I just thought that it'd would be interesting to know a little bit more about Dave and the mystery surrounding his character. I don't think Jeremy was lying to me either about it. When I was talking to him at the Toronto Convention, which according to him was smaller crowd for PP then Calgary where they were honoured guests, he talked really casually about it since at his table section there was just me and two of my friends at the time. Not much of a huge line up to meet Jeremy+Tagi+Kyle lol. Radica 11:29, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

STOP

Stop vandlizing, also stop letting the truth get out, spoiler warnings are fine but wikipedia is nuetral.

Am I the only fucking proffesional here? Your all acting like a bunch of fucking niggers.--68.14.141.146 20:55, 6 November 2006 (UTC)