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Using short descriptions in Wikipedia

{{Annotated link}} is now available. This template can be used to automatically annotate a link using the associated short description. It remains blank if there is currently no short description, and automatically transcludes it when it exists. This might be useful for disambiguation pages. The syntax is very simple (see example), and it only works for custom short descriptions, and does not currently work for redirects. The annotations will remain up to date when the short description is edited.

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* {{Annotated link|Wikipedia:Short description}}

Wikipedia:Short description – Use of short descriptions on Wikipedia

* {{Annotated link|Wikipedia:Short description|''Short description''}}

Short description – Use of short descriptions on Wikipedia

Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 12:54, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Article talk page

I'm new to this page and don't quite understand the project - I wanted to update a page on Mark Pilgrim but it looks as though the talk page has been blocked or something because of disambiguation. I don't know of another Mark Pilgrim that would cause confusion. I just wanted to add some information to the page to clarify and expand on some of the discussions there. Advice please? Thank you! CountryMama27 (talk) 23:24, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You added your question to the wrong place, which I have fixed. Talk:Mark Pilgrim had an old disambiguation header from when it was previously a DAB page. I have corrected that, but that shouldn't have prevented you from editing the page.MB 00:28, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Committee for the Defense of Human Rights

Hello, I'm looking for advice on disambiguation of "Committee for the Defense of Human Rights". This title currently belongs to the article about a Slovene organization by that name, founded 1988 and dissolved 1990. I wish to create Committee for the Defence of Human Rights (Chile), which was a tiny organization founded in 1970, but notable as one of the first HROs to be described with that term.

It seems to me that no title is primary here, so the main, undisambiguated title should belong to the disambig page per WP:NOPRIMARY. This would require a move of the Slovene page, presumably to Committee for the Defence of Human Rights (Slovenia). The disambig page would have three entries to start (four, when "Chile" is created), or more if red links are allowed. Possible entries:

Committee for the Defense of Human Rights (Chile) (CODEH, 1970) – forthcoming
Committee for the Defense of Human Rights in Honduras (CODEH, 1981) – this article owns the shortcut CODEH
"Committee for the Defense of Human Rights", Nigeria (1991, Lagos); no article on Wikipedia
Committee for the Defence of Human Rights (Slovenia) – currently Committee for the Defence of Human Rights
Committee for the Defense of Human Rights in the Arabian Peninsula (CDHRAP, 2010)
Committee for the Defense of Human and Workers' Rights (Chile) (CODEHS, 1978) – forthcoming

For an intro line, I was going to have:

Committee for the Defense of Human Rights may refer to a human rights organization in any of several countries.

Do we need specific accord from editors at the Slovene page for the move, or can we just do it because it's per policy (if I'm reading it right)? Mathglot (talk) 07:31, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Notifications: Added WikiProject notifications at WT:HR, WT:SLO, and WT:LAT (WP:CHILE is moribund).

Considering that there are already three articles, and you'll be creating a fourth, I think you can be WP:BOLD and just move the Slovenia article to create a dab page. All three existing articles get few hits, with the Arabian Peninsula article getting the most,[1] so it appears that the Slovenia article is not the WP:primary topic. However, per MOS:DABRL, I would not add any redlinks before the articles are created. And the intro line should be simply "Committee for the Defense of Human Rights may refer to:" Station1 (talk) 00:00, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Lycée Edgar-Quinet

The article Lycée Edgar-Quinet has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

All three of these schools are currently red links. Lycée Edgard-Quinet (Paris) is the only one with links from other pages, and those only via Template:Lycées in Paris. There is nothing a disambiguation page can reasonably link to. Please create the articles before disambiguating them.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Cnilep (talk) 05:31, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Should this page be tagged as a SIA or dab?

Should List of Soviet aircraft carriers named Admiral Kuznetsov be tagged as a SIA or a dab page (or something else)? DexDor^(talk) 20:40, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would just delete it. It's not a dab page, not a SIA, not a list, few people look at it[2], and I don't see what value it adds. Station1 (talk) 21:44, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Lyndaship - do you agree with deleting it (i.e. MFD it or simply turn it into a redirect to Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov) ?

I'd get rid of it, but edit Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov to add a hatnote (or at least an earlier and more prominent link in the lead) to Template:Sclass-. (I think the ship editors like us to use that template.) Certes (talk) 10:47, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Help with Some Japanese Disambiguation

There was once an article on a Japanese singer named Yuki Goto but she was deemed non-notable and the article was redirected to her band Nice Girl Project!. That is where you will end up if you simply type in the name. Now there is a new article for a different singer of the same name at Yuki Goto (singer). I did not create that article but moved it to the current title in an attempt at disambiguation. The article's creator tells me that the two singers have the same name in the English alphabet, but they use different characters in Japanese. Not sure if that matters here, though I do wonder if the search term should go to the newer article (an RfD request), or if we need new hatnotes, etc. Please advise. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 18:50, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The kanji used does not affect the ambiguity of the name "Yuki Goto" in English. I think in this case it would be best to move Yuki Goto (singer) to the base term and have the ambiguity dealt with via a link to Ciao Bella Cinquetti in a hatnote. Failing that, maybe move the redirect to Yuki Goto (singer, born 1993) and move Yuki Goto (singer) to Yuki Goto (singer, born 1986), then have an hndis at the base term. —Xezbeth (talk) 18:57, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Xezbeth: -- Please clarify your final phrase: Have a what at the base term? ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 16:20, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

doomsdayer520, Probably hatnote disambiguation, Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) ^(talk): 16:43, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Human name disambiguation. I don't think it's necessary though and would prefer the first option. —Xezbeth (talk) 16:52, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks all. I have differentiated the two singer articles to Yuki Goto (singer, born 1986), which is the newer article, and Yuki Goto (singer, born 1993) which was the original article that was redirected to her group Nice Girl Project! a long time ago. I also created Yuki Goto (disambiguation), and clarified hatnotes at both singer articles. I think this might clear up the confusion, but I'm not sure if that new disambig page is totally necessary based on how users are likely to search for things. Please adjust as you see fit. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 17:42, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Template in disambiguation page

I nominated two templates for deletion as it seen at 2000s. Hddty. (talk) 04:22, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Advice on Best Practice

I found this WikiProject as I came across the dab for Duncan Campbell. Although the sub-headings are clear, I wondered about changing the entries in each sub-headings to be chronological. The Style guide says 'Entries are typically ordered first by similarity to the ambiguous title, then alphabetically or chronologically as appropriate'. Is this generally best practice for people? Emain Macha (talk) 12:16, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]