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Zakir Naik

Hi, about the edit I made in that article. The text was "he is regarded as an exponent of the Salafi ideology, and as a radical Islamic televangelist propagating Wahhabism". in this way, It seems that the opinions are the same while Salafi movement is different from wahabism (which is considered radical islam while Salafi movement is not), so I thought that should be clarified by explaining that each opinion is different. and also "he is regarded" makes it seem as the only view of him, while he actually rejects secularism in Islam as the article says. and I'm sorry If my style wasn't good enough as I'm not a native speaker :) with my regards Mohamed^Talk 23:13, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

@محمد عصام: The original text read better but if you think it was misrepresenting facts, then go ahead and make your change. I'm not up to speed with what is or isn't radical islam (or Zakir Naik). If whatever you add needs fixing, someone will come and fix it. Best. --regentspark (comment) 23:30, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

I think It will be best to explain my edit at the talk page to know more opinions from others and see if someone can make it more clear and easier to understand , thank you Mohamed^Talk 23:38, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

DS/IPA Question

RP, @Neil: Are discretionary sanctions under IPA, in practice, only applied for disputes/conduct-issues that fall along the nationalist/caste/ethnic fault-lines or have they been applied more generally for articles/editors that (undoubtedly) fall under India/Pakistan project, but are not in any of those narrow categories?

The question is general, but rises from my recent intervention at Swami Nithyananda w.r.t editor Akhilkodali. I am not contemplating any immediate action, but can imagine article/editor based restrictions becoming necessary given persistent RS/POV/BLP/COI issues. Abecedare (talk) 23:03, 20 July 2018 (UTC) (pinging User:Bishonen too. Abecedare (talk) 23:05, 20 July 2018 (UTC))

I wouldn't think any fault-lines are needed for sanctionable misconduct. Dogmatic religious POVs, linguistic POVs, history POVs or political POVs are quite common too. But perhaps those users back off before reaching the precipice. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:07, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Generally, the sanctions have been applied more generally. As Kautilya3 states, the religious etc. POV editors are more careful, so that's been less of a problem there. I'm seeing the same "careful" effect in the nationalistic and Indo-Pak areas, particularly after the recent blanket topic bans were issued but not yet in the caste area (which is overrun by socks anyway). --regentspark (comment) 13:47, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Kautilya, RP. Abecedare (talk) 14:53, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

protection

Hi regents park, How did u semi protect the article Karna. Can u explain in detail. I want to protect the article Arjuna because it is being subjected to vandalism constantly. If u can, please protect the article. Its my humble request. Im begging you plz plz.... Im requesting you because its being constantly edited by the following anonymous users: 157.50.77.172 & 117.195.231.245 Sri Harsha 08:52, 21 July 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MKS Harsha (talk • contribs)

@MKS Harsha:. I've semi-protected the article for the time being. But, like with the Karna article, I think there is a strong likelihood of sock activity and semi-protection won't help with that. @Abecedare: to watch the article and @Ms Sarah Welch: if they can help clean up the article.--regentspark (comment) 13:52, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Watchlisted. @MKS Harsha: some of those IP's edits are problematic but so are yours. You have got to read wikipedia's guidelines on reliable sourcing and stop adding material based on Mahabharat TV series episodes you watch on youtube etc. (pinging User:MKS Harsha again). Abecedare (talk) 15:19, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanking

I'm very much gratuitous and thankful to u sir. I requested bcoz it was frequently edited. I won't forget your help in my life. Thank you very much. Thanks a lot. Sri Harsha 16:24, 21 July 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by MKS Harsha (talk • contribs)

WP:PINQ

Hi, Greetings.Please come back to quiz. Otherwise it will be deleted through deletion policy. Kindly please see this.--PATH SLOPU ^(Talk) 14:19, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Business user name

Hi, this user and username appears to be representing a business --> [1].... Another problem he is doing self promotional editing... but I Am not able to find the appropriate speedy deletion criteria or tag to tag this page... please advice me how to tag this for speedy... than you.. --Adamstraw99 (talk) 06:54, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Reported to UAA.Will be cleaning up the articles:)∯WBG^converse 07:22, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

National Herald (India)

Hi,

Need your help in editing National Herald (India). There is no Indore edition. That section needs to go. Also the editor is Zafar Agha. See: National Herald [2] & Outlook [3] Chirag (talk) 10:41, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)RP, are you sure about the level and the duration of protection:-Sysop protection for one year?! Might have been a misclick for I suppose, it should have been a semi for a week or so......:-)∯WBG^converse 11:43, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

@Chirag and Winged Blades of Godric:. I think I protected it hoping that the few editors involved in the edit war would use the talk page to figure things out. Clearly that didn't happen. Anyway, unprotected. --regentspark (comment) 21:10, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Padmanabh Singh

Will need to go further back... didn't bother figuring out how far. Abecedare (talk) 12:49, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I noticed that (the prose I reverted to ....!). Will take a look later today.

Back to a sitush version.--regentspark (comment) 13:46, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Always a wise choice. Let me know if you consider yourself involved and need me to protect/block; the article history is a mess. Abecedare (talk) 18:21, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Definitely not involved. I have no idea who the guy is! --regentspark (comment) 18:34, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I meant wiki-involved (as in having edited the article), but got a laugh out of your chagrined reaction to the thought of being friends with the person. ;-) Abecedare (talk) 18:38, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

You know me. I spend my days on the back of a horse, twirling my illustrious mustache while I hit a ball with a long stick (and swig warm beer during breaks)! --regentspark (comment) 18:43, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Reading the article, I remembered that I have this draft in my userspace. Should try to complete it, perhaps to mark the fifth anniversary of its start! Abecedare (talk) 18:58, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

We should have an article on this so go for it. Looks good enough to move to mainspace. Would be interesting to see if sources that talk about the consequences of the amendment exist. --regentspark (comment) 19:09, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

• Can you extend the protection for Mukkulathor? Came out of one-year semi on July 10 and immediately set upon my IPs , new/dormant accounts etc. Not sure what's going on but I reverted to the last safe (ie Sitush's) version. Abecedare (talk) 22:49, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

  Done. But it won't keep everyone away!--regentspark (comment) 23:38, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Yup. But at least we won't be fighting shadows, and can (hopefully) discuss the issues with the rest of them. Abecedare (talk) 04:03, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Just realized that user:SpacemanSpiff had placed the Mukkulathor article under "ECP 30/500 editing restrictions" (see 2016 log). When you are next online, can you technically implement that by ECP protecting the article indefinitely? Right now the DS is "enforced" through a talkpage notice since I assume back in 2016 software-enforced ECP was not an available option. Abecedare (talk) 04:29, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Done that as well. --regentspark (comment) 14:09, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Abecedare (talk) 16:06, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Sanskrit is not official language of Ancient South India

The ancient dynasties of South India (Pandya dynasty, Chera dynasty, Chola dynasty) were contributing to Tamil and Tamil alone. When we look at the amount of contribution they have done to Tamil literature, it's countless. There is no "Hinduism" at their time. It was either Saivism or Vaisnavism. There is no sign of Sanskrit being used at those time as official / court language. Since the language was limited to a particular community (3% of the total population), can never be an official language, which become the soul reason for the extinction of Sanskrit.

It would be valid to remove "Sanskrit" as official language from all those four dynasties. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarathkmr12 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

To be honest, I have no clue about any of this. @Kautilya3 and Cpt.a.haddock: will be better able to figure this out. --regentspark (comment) 19:07, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

I don't know the precise answer either. My advice would be to check the sources that have been cited. If the sources don't support the idea that Sanskrit was an official language, you can remove it, saying that it is not in the source. If somebody disagrees, you can discuss on the respective talk pages.

What is meant by an "official language" is a bit of a problem. If there are inscriptions in a language, we can regard it as official, because it has been used to communicate with the people. If the inscriptions are only in temples, then it is debatable whether it counts as "official". It could have been just religious. That would need to be discussed on the article talk pages. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 23:30, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Further to what Kautilya3 has already noted, the editor who inserted Sanskrit into the Pandyan dynasty infobox along with a reference is quite active. You can ping and discuss this issue with him on the article's talk page.—Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 07:32, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Bright☀ 08:42, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your assistance with the posting. I think I got it right. If I can stay awake I'll deal with it further. Activist (talk) 11:01, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Devnagari script

But there is Devnagari script in artcile Arjuna SHM198 (talk) 11:51, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

@SHM198: Apologies. That was a mistake on my part and I should have been more careful. The ban against using indic scripts like devanagari only applies to the lead and to the infobox. --regentspark (comment) 13:49, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

AE

I wanted to answer your question at AE without getting into too many details about the content dispute over there - the link itself is not contentious, it is a duplicate link that is not needed. Yom Kippur War is already linked in the article lede. The content of the piping, however, has been discussed at the main article talk page more then once - nobody who has participated in those discussions, on either side of the debate, except Yaniv, thinks that this should be represented as launched an attack "against Israel". It was most recently discussed on the main article talk page while this current AE complaint was open - Icewhiz and I reached an agreement on "attacked Israeli positions", with details about Sinai and the Golan moved to the preceding paragraph to eliminate redundancy. That version seems to be stable for now. Seraphim System ^(talk) 05:14, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

DiDi

Hello. I came upon the discussion here on the page moving issue of Born2cycle. I see that you see the closure reasonable (Even the DiDi case presented as a particularly egregious example is not really that outré. Rather, b2c seems to have actually read the discussion, discovered that three editors (not one) are fine with DiDi because that's the name used internationally and by several reliable sources. Seems reasonable to close it that way, imo.) I would appreciate your input on Talk:DiDi (company)#Requested move 26 August 2018 as the page move and discussion closure has been reverted. Cheers. –Wefk423 (talk) 09:54, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I don't really have a comment on the article name, I just thought that b2c's close was reasonable, so I'll let other people figure this one out. Best wishes. --regentspark (comment) 17:51, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism

Respected Sir,

                        This is SHM198 as you know. The thing is about the article Abhimanyu. Sir the article is being subjected to repeated Vandalism. Even previously it happened in similar way. User Vikram veda is using multiple accounts & targetting the article Abhimanyu intentionally. He is just an antagonist of the character Abhimanyu. That's the reason he/she is spoiling it through by using other accounts. I strongly suspect that KarnaArjuna1 & KarnaArjuna2 are his accounts. Sir VIKRAMVEDA was previously blocked for using multiple accounts such as KARNSANGHINI & KARNAARJUNA. He/she is repeating the same. On the whole, I request you to protect the article Abhimanyu as it was done in the case of Arjuna & Karna. 
                                                                                 Thanking you 
                                                                                                                                                                                                     SHM198
                                                                                                                                                                                                      
SHM198 (talk) 10:36, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

• @SHM198: I've semi-protected the page for six months because of excessive sock puppetry. --regentspark (comment) 14:25, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Everett

Doi you have time to look at Talk:Julian_F._Everett#Redelsheimer? Something weird going on there. - Sitush (talk) 17:02, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Indeed a mess. Commented there. --regentspark (comment) 17:54, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Re: not finding a Toole House on the NRHP, I have found this but it doesn't load consistently so you may have to hit refresh a few times. - Sitush (talk) 20:27, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Loaded, with difficulty. Perhaps we should webarchive it. Do you know how to do that? --regentspark (comment) 20:35, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Not a clue, sorry. I should know after all these years but it is so long since I last had a go and I am not at all confident. - Sitush (talk) 20:36, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Neither do I. I'm technologically illiterate. Oh, well. --regentspark (comment) 20:39, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

The top-level page does indeed seem to load slowly, but the underlying PDFs (photos and NRHP nomination form) are much faster. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:40, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Kosher

I had to come back and recreate my account thanks to you. I just added a funny name and random word+numbers as password and didn't even bother to note them down. I couldn't even find my name until I went back to Babur and now I am stuck with this one. Why did you remove everything I added and what do you mean by kosher? If you read Archaeology at the Heart of a Political Confrontation: The Case of Ayodhya, it says it's claimed he built it. The mosque and Mir Baqi article claim it's disputed whether he really built it. VeryBadShahback (talk) 05:55, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Didn't seem right to me but @Vanamonde93: for a more informed opinion. --regentspark (comment) 15:56, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

VeryBadShah: I'm a bit confused as to what you are claiming here. Nobody disputes that Mir Baqi built the Babri Masjid (or ordered it to be built, anyway). The controversy is over whether he knocked down a Hindu temple to do so (scholars largely say "no", some politicians say "yes"). Also: details about the archaeology of the site are undue weight in the article about Babur; they belong in the articles about the site and the dispute, where they already are. Vanamonde (talk) 16:08, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

"Archaeology at the Heart of a Political Confrontation: The Case of Ayodhya" is used to support that Mir Baqi built it on Babur's orders on Babur's article. But it just says it's claimed a general of Babur built it.

Babri Masjid and [[Baqi Tashqandi ]] say the inscriptions used to support the claim that Baqi built it is disputed and the inscriptions were fixed 285 years later. They use Kunal Kishore to support their claim https://books.google.co.in/books?id=gKKaDAAAQBAJ&pg=PA185&dq=285&source=bl&ots=G-NlCZ794p&sig=uxCWz-YX0gFua2vai-LkE9EsTZY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwituaDmpb_dAhXQbCsKHbjBDVEQ6AEwAXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=285&f=false

Joseph Tiefenthaler claimed that Aurangzeb built it according to local Hindu belief https://books.google.co.in/books?id=VR3ICQAAQBAJ&pg=PT156&dq=ramcot+aurangzeb&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjK2beAqL_dAhVNfn0KHYM0AcQQ6AEIMjAC#v=onepage&q=ramcot%20aurangzeb&f=false

Ayodhya dispute like Babur also claims that Mir Baqi built it. But Babri Masjid and Baqi Taqshabandi dispute it. Please correct this. One article says one thing, another one another.VeryBadShahback (talk) 05:57, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Diwali 2018 in USA

You removed my link which lists all Diwali events taking place in the United States in 2018. As a reason you stated that this webpage would promote businesses which is not true for the most part. If you would have looked closely, the vast majority of the events taking place in temples, museums, public places like parks and squares etc. Surely, some are events were a small entrance fee is being charged to cover the cost, but these are not BUSINESSES or commercial events, only a few might be (this ought to be a comprehensive list I assume).

Therefore I would like to ask you to put the link back in place. Or otherwise, if you can find another comprehensive list of Diwali events taking place in the US 2018 then add this link instead. It is very useful for the community of 3 Million Indians living in the United States or for those visiting their families in the US at that time. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrsingh18 (talk • contribs) 15:01, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

@Mrsingh18: The link you're inserting is not an acceptable external link so it cannot be inserted. Best. --regentspark (comment) 17:06, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Parkash Singh Badal

Why did you revert my edit? As far as I know he is still alive. Gsingh (talk) 20:00, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

@Gsingh: Apologies, that was a mistake. Looks like someone else straightened it out. --regentspark (comment) 00:10, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

IP Address

My Ip address got no Ipv6, Ipv4 one60.50.28.7 (talk) 11:47, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

I guess

a range-block or an indefinite t/p protection (to semi) is desirable at Namasudra.∯WBG^converse 11:56, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

done by spiff --regentspark (comment) 13:51, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

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Bad move

Someone recently moved an article to Pahari People and they're wrong. I tried to move it back to Pahari Rajput with the summary rv recent move: the source clearly mentions Pahari Rajput and in any case we already have Pahari people but don't have the permissions. Can you step in, please? - Sitush (talk) 18:12, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

@Sitush:. It was at Pahari Rajputs. Is the plural better or the singular rajput better?--regentspark (comment) 18:43, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Should be singular - that is our convention. - Sitush (talk) 18:46, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Done. Sorry, saw the first post, missed this conversation, so went ahead and moved it. Vanamonde (talk) 18:59, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, both. - Sitush (talk) 19:00, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Hijacking this thread, @Sitush: I have just granted you the page mover user right. Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 19:09, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Ok, thanks Salvio. Something else for me to balls up ;) - Sitush (talk) 19:14, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Good to see you're still around Salvio. I thought you had done the famous wikipedia disappearing trick!--regentspark (comment) 19:19, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Yes, indeed. I meant to say that, too. Not seen you around for ages and you were missed. - Sitush (talk) 19:21, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, both! Over the last months, work has been a bit of a bitch. Luckily, things have now become a little bit less hectic and, so, I am back to my favourite hobby. Salvio ^{Let's talk about it!} 19:29, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

IAC LTA again?

Ramesh8888 (talk · contribs) is going berserk at 2011 Indian anti-corruption movement. May need intervention as could be the return of the IAC long-term abuse issue. - Sitush (talk) 20:43, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Ok, they're still removing stuff so I have sent it to ANI. - Sitush (talk) 21:35, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

FWIW I don't think this is the IAC sockfarm, this is just plain obtuseness, a lack of formal English, and disregard for/ignorance of policy. Vanamonde (talk) 22:26, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

This must feel like old times again Sitush! But, I think Vanamonde93 is right. This is a one person job. --regentspark (comment) 01:33, 3 October 2018 (UTC)