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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Lowercase sigmabot III (talk | contribs) at 02:40, 4 November 2018 (Archiving 3 discussion(s) from User talk:Doug Weller) (bot). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

What pattern of excessive vandalism do you see that I am not that warrants a one month block on this IP address? There are 10 edits total from the IP, which is shared by multiple users, spread over a period of five months, and from what I can tell based on some of the edits, this is an IP used by at least 2,482 individual users, possibly more depending on whether more than one school uses it. PCHS-NJROTC (Messages)Have a blessed day. 02:13, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 October 2018

Your help needed: PiCo reverting improvements on Gospel of Mark article

Hi Doug. I saw your work on religious-themed articles and wondered if you could look at an editing constipation on the Gospel of Mark page. There are two versions going back and forth. Could you read both versions and advise everyone on the way forward? Thanks. 86.144.10.4 (talk) 21:44, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Fascist

I am sorry about the Fascist edit and linking it to Far-left. According to my research, it showed that Hitler was a Socialist, which is known to be a Far-left view. So using that research, I was thinking that since Hitler was a fascist, I listed fascists as Far-left, but I will delete it as it is known to be false. I am just asking that you do not block me. Thanks! TruthLighter3740 (talk) 00:20, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

@TruthLighter3740:
political compass chart
Most educated political discussions tend to assume at least this level of complexity, or even go 3-D and add "socially conservative vs socially liberal" as a front to back axis
Wikipedia does not use individual editor's original research, because it can be flawed, as was this case. Hitler is pretty easily classified as a fascist but not a socialist. He was a member of a party that called itself the National Socialist party, but they emphasized nationalism over everything else and persecuted actual socialists. The only reason they included socialist in the name was to mean "not completely capitalist." This is what any academic source (not political propaganda) will tell you, which can be backed up by checking any of the citations in relevant articles and reading a variety of books from university presses or academic presses on the matter.
On the chart to the right, Hitler would normally be placed way up top and about halfway between the middle and the right. Stalin would be placed way up top and all the way to the left. Bernie Sanders would be about a third or halfway to the left (from the middle) and pretty much in the middle when determining up or down. Most Libertarian candidates would be about a third or halfway both down and to the right. Hardcore anarchists would be in the middle of the bottom.
The thinking that would allow one to lump fascists and socialists together requires a very limited and flawed understanding of politics, one that is entirely "us vs them," lumping together anything that doesn't agree with one's own views. This is dangerous, as both fascists and communists have used this kind of rhetoric in a "divide and conquer" manner and terrorists (whatever their ideology) use it to radicalize recruits. I am not saying you're any of those things, but maybe you need to adjust your political news diet, avoiding anything that focuses more on strong emotions (including fear, anger, and pride) rather than cold facts, and aiming instead for ideas that require reading more than 280 characters to understand. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:15, 29 October 2018 (UTC)