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JesusFriedChrist

Hi Oshwah and GeneralizationsAreBad. I just wanted to mention, with the greatest respect to both of you, that I think that this and this are a mistake; that is, that the username JesusFriedChrist (pinging in case they want to look in here) contains enough potential for offence that it would be have been better changed. I am not myself religious but I am well aware that we often try to avoid names that might offend ... whilst I find it only slightly grating, it wouldn't really worry me personally whereas my concern is that someone who was a Christian might find it problematical to try to have a collegial discussion about yoghurt or semicolons or privet hedges with someone whose username they saw as a blasphemy/joke/whatever based on a name that is of great importance to them.

I did read the policy and also watched the cute little video with people saying their usernames and it struck me that many of them are just a straightforward label rather than something (a) you might say immediately after a hammer>thumb interaction and (b) something that might at least potentially offend a minority. I absolutely hate it when bleating Christians go "oh you wouldn't tolerate an attack on Muslims like that" but this one does make me wonder, a touch ... I had better shut up now before I paint myself into a corner here!

Anyway, all that said, I am not about to open an RFC or take Jimbo to the European Court of Human Rights, an ting, over this. I just wanted to record my mild disappointment on this occasion, but place it in the context of my great admiration for the rest of your work, both of you!

With all good wishes DBaK (talk) 09:31, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered! Thank you for taking the time to leave me this message and for providing your honest input and thoughts here. You (and anybody else) are always welcome on my user talk page, and your honesty and your input are not only welcome - but they're encouraged... even if they're ill-favorable or in opposition or disagreement with my actions, thoughts, or opinions here. I take no offense, I hold no grudges, and I commend those who do this so that I can respond and work things out. If you know me as well as I'm sure you do, you know that I'm definitely not perfect. Hell, I've made more than my fair share of mistakes over the years that I've been an editor here ;-). However, I've learned that most of the actions I take that are disagreed upon are usually due to me missing something or over a simple misunderstanding, and these messages help resolve them right-quick... so thank you :-)
I didn't see the username as offensive myself, but I may have perhaps translated it incorrectly or missed something. "Jesus Fried Christ" seemed like an insertion of a middle name, and the thought that came to me was "fried chicken", or maybe "fried in hell"? It just seemed very ambiguous to me and didn't explicitly make a statement in my opinion. Usually when I spot a username that's blatantly or obviously offensive and against Wikipedia's username policy, I can see exactly what the username is referring to or trying to convey no question. In this case, I really couldn't... and the response I saw from GeneralizationsAreBad helped assure (in my mind at least) that I wasn't missing something. I'm not passing the buck onto GeneralizationsAreBad at all; I obviously take responsibility for all of my actions and as my own, but it did factor into my thoughts. If you don't mind, can you explain exactly how this username is offensive and what it means? Sometimes I just have to be told in order to go, "Aha!" and understand. I think of myself as pretty "up-to-date" when it comes to things, but I'm not perfect and I will miss things (just like anybody else). Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:34, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for the nice reply. Unfortunately, Real Life is interfering with my Wikipedia time right now so I have only a minute to acknowledge this and to say that I will try to respond properly as soon as I can. I have edited my original remark above to clarify that I am not seeking to overturn your decision; I'm happy to discuss it and I am very grateful for your comments but I am not on some sort of – er – crusade here! :) More ASAP, but please do not hold your breath! :) cheers DBaK (talk) 13:34, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered - No worries; I understand that you're simply discussing the matter, and there's absolutely no rush with follow-up here. Take care of your real-life tasks and obligations, be safe and be well, and we'll be here when you return. Real life matters are much more important than anything on Wikipedia, and I'm glad that you're taking care of yourself. I'll hear from you when I hear from you ;-). Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:45, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Gosh darn it, Oshwah, why do you have to handle everything so competently? GABgab 15:42, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
GeneralizationsAreBad - Cause I got dem skillllz, yo. I be civil and communicatin' to people like nobody's bidness! Boom! I'm too hot for y'all!!! (That was an obviously poor attempt at trying to sound like an idiot... lol) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:00, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No, you succeeded in sounding like an idiot. Btw, would you also approve "User:MohamFriedMed"? I may change my name to that. - BilCat (talk) 17:53, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
BilCat - Good, mission accomplished :-P. I... still don't get it... "Moham Fried Med"? Not seeing the connection here... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:09, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Remove the Fried, and spell it as one word. Facepalm Facepalm - BilCat (talk) 18:11, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Or I could spell it MuhamFriedMad, if you think that's better. :) - BilCat (talk) 18:14, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
BilCat - Okay. "JesusChrist", "MohamMad".... that's it? I'm still not seeing how these are username violations..... just having the words "Jesus Christ" and "Mohammad" definitely don't make them violations... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:16, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Just a test. You passed. :) - BilCat (talk) 18:21, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear, as a Christian, I do find "JesusFriedChrist" highly offensive, but I understand some may not. One way to determine anti-Christian bias is to change the Christian references to Islamic ones, or some other religion, and watch what happens. The results can be quite fun. :) - BilCat (talk) 18:26, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
BilCat - I grew up religious, too (Christian).... I'm just failing to understand. What does "Jesus Fried Christ" mean? What is it trying to convey offensively? Is "Fried" an attempt to "change the Christian references to Islamic ones" as you stated above? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:30, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, one possibility is that is a substitute – returning to my thumb/hammer thing – for the cry "Jesus Fucking Christ!" which I think some would find blasphemous – invoking the great man as a symbol of my anger etc ... seems dodgy, perhaps offensive to Christians? In any case I have to add that I'm not sure that either "Jesus Christ" or "Muhammad", whether fried or raw, would be that great as usernames. The user would presumably not be claiming to BE that person (and if they were we'd have bigger issues to consider right now!) and again some would, I assume, find them offensive because basically they are claiming them for the purpose of levity ... I think in general I'd tend to prefer a path of lesser offence. And maybe the JFC one is a sort of joke in parallel with KFC, and if so is quite funny, but I still think it is perhaps unsuitable for a username here for the reasons I gave before - if it is offensive then it is potentially disruptive because it is going to put the noses out of joint of Christian users who might otherwise want to work collegially with them on a nice article about rivets or bananas. I am not usually massively into censorship but I just think things might work more easily with deliberate good manners. Would I get away with DonaldFriedTrump? I think not ... TheresaFriedMay ... perhaps. It's tricky. But thanks for the chat – it has been very interesting. Cheers DBaK (talk) 18:40, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No, that's not what meant. "Fried" may well be meant as a substitute for another well-known word that starts with F, but I don't know if that's what the user meant or not. I do think perhaps they are just trolling to overreactions, and are probably best ignored. - BilCat (talk) 18:42, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Probably true, but their one edit so far seemed quite serious and well-intended, which made me think they weren't trolling ... but yes, we will probably never know, and are quite possibly not really benefiting civilization by further discussing it here! Cheers DBaK (talk) 18:57, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's possible to have a username that's "trolling" and still make productive edits - they aren't mutually exclusive. - BilCat (talk) 19:05, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed - I hadn't really thought that one through but if course you're right! Less likely perhaps but certainly not impossible. Thanks. DBaK (talk) 09:09, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That could be what the user is trying to do (insert a word instead of fucking in their username), but remember that we assume good faith here. I still think that the username is too ambiguous to block the account - even given the arguments here... I think we should talk to the user as a first step here. If you two both believe the username to be offensive, I think that the solution is for you two to kindly and civilly talk to the user by messaging them on their user talk page and ask what the username is supposed to mean and (if they respond) tell the user how you feel about it. Maybe ask them to change their username. A block outright though? Too far in this situation... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:53, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Doug Weller - Acknowledged; checking my email now... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:30, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Doug Weller - Response sent. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:50, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Prisoner (TV series)

Hi Oshwah, thanks for page protecting the Prisoner (TV series) article. As I'm sure you saw, the IP editor was very combative and repeatedly rebuffed requests to discuss the article content, instead preferring to revert any changes I made and leave taunting messages in the edit summaries. I stopped attempting to revert his disruptive editing, and came to the page for protecting articles, but in the meantime he continued his assault on the article. He even left a reference at one point that looked good on its face, but when I found a copy of the book online, of course the page numbers he cited did not at all contain the info he was trying to add to the article.

None of that seriously bothers me, but right before you protected the page, the IP added dozens of "citation needed" tags to the article, and this sarcastic message he left on my talk page explains his rationale. I hope you can take a few seconds to at least revert those last 3 disruptive edits, as they were made by the IP purely to be disruptive.

I have no problem with anonymous IP editors, as for a long time, I made my minor fixes and added references here and there without registering an account. Having registered one now, though, I have to admit that I don't see the benefit so far of having one. It seems that the IP editor can revert over and over, and leave threats and taunts on my talk page, and my attempts to be civil resulted in - nothing. The page is now a bloody mess, because I stopped reverting his changes, and he can merrily move on to a new IP address and not be connected to this incident, while I've been tarred with being party to an edit war that I tried very hard to avoid. It seems as though the system actually favors the disruptive IP editor, at least in this case.Ewen Douglas (talk) 18:52, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ewen Douglas, and thank you for leaving me a message here with a summary of what's been going on, as well as your thoughts and concerns. When initially looking at the issue, I was looking through the eyes of someone responding to a protection request. The edits appear to be over content-related matters, and this is why I applied the protection level its set at and responded to the request telling both of you to discuss the matter and come to an agreement. Has this user attempted to work things out with you? Is there an open discussion between you two right now over this article? Apart from the reverts, edit warring, and comments (I haven't yet looked into them to determine if they violate Wikipedia's civility policies but will soon) - I'm just trying to get a sense of how the discussions between you two (if any) are going. It looks like another editor has just reverted the edit adding numerous {{citation needed}} tags here, so you should be at least partially set to go regarding your request. If the user has been uncivil to you, can you provide me a list of diffs that show this? I noted your diff regarding the user's sarcasm here, but if you could provide me with more direct evidence of incivility, it would be extremely helpful in my investigation over the matter. Let me know when you can - thank you :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:23, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Oshwah, yes, thanks, another editor took care of the most glaring disruption. The rest is minor: I can brush off incivility, and going through all the diffs and edit summaries to list all of his "you lost the edit war!" comments seems like a waste of time, given that it's not a registered account anyway. I suppose I will try to correct the unsourced info when the protection expires, and if the IP returns, can I drop you a note then? Ewen Douglas (talk) 16:14, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oh - I just noticed this on the Prisoner tlak page. Obviously the same user, from a different IP, and now apparently threatening to stalk my edits. Might be worth taking a look at. Ewen Douglas (talk) 16:17, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ewen Douglas - Sorry for the delay responding to your follow-up messages here. Okay, I'll take a look given the new information you provided. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:56, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ewen Douglas - It doesn't look like any further disruption has occurred on the article since the protection expired. If this changes, let me know and I'll be happy to take a look and take what actions are necessary to stop it. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:58, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it looks like all's good at this point. Thanks for following up. Ewen Douglas (talk) 17:00, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No problem; just wanted to make sure that everything was resolved. I didn't want to inadvertently give you the feeling that I forgot about you. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:18, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Editing of Lee Rowley page

Hi Oswah,

One of the many issues you have helped try and resolve is this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah/TalkPageArchives/2018-11#Editing_of_Lee_Rowley_page

Following your intervention, I followed your recommendation and started trying to debate the content with all the unregistered users (or one user using different computers) here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lee_Rowley

Unfortunately, as happened a few months ago when I tried to debate them, they have not responded on the talk page. Please can you put a protection on the page again as they will just continue vandalising it again.

Many thanks, Impsfan (talk) 22:55, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Impsfan! I apologize for the delay responding to your message. I was away for the holidays and I'm just now getting caught up with all of my Wikipedia messages and emails :-). Since the edits made by BigBong2001 on November 17, I'm not seeing any further disruption or edit warring on the article - so I'm going to hold off on protecting the article for now. If the disruption picks back up, let me know and I'll be happy to take another look and take actions necessary in order to stop it. Thanks again! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:02, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Articel

Hi, could you please help me. I tried to publish an articel and i was marked as spam, i think because i edit the articel 2 times. This message popped up "14:38, 16. Nov. 2018: Liberty2020 (Diskussion | Beiträge) löste durch die Aktion „edit“ auf „User:Liberty2020“ einen Missbrauchsfilter aus. Filteraktion: „keine“; Filterbeschreibung: „Possible spambot or promotional username“ What can i do now? Hope to get an answer. Best — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liberty2020 (talk • contribs) 14:36, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liberty2020! The text you pasted appears to be in German. If you're trying to write and publish an article on the German Wikipedia, please know that I'm not an administrator nor am I an active editor there. You'll need to talk to an editor on the German Wikipedia who can assist you with this matter. If I'm incorrect and you're trying to publish an article here on the English Wikipedia, let me know and I'll be happy to help you further. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:05, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

SPI

LTA Comes back. --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:42, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thegooduser - It looks like this has been taken care of and confirmed... well done! Thanks for the message and I apologize for the delay responding :-). Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:07, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Food Libel Laws Article

Hello Oshwash,

I see that you replaced the "McLibel" Section that I recently deleted from the Food Libel Laws article. Although the article isn't officially region-restricted, I'd argue that everything else about the article points to it referring specifically to food libel laws which have been passed in the US. Indeed, the article's lead section mentions that food libel laws exist in thirteen states. In any respect, libel laws are quite different in the US and the UK, so it would be misleading to have examples of how food libel laws operate in the US and UK intermingled together in one "Notable Examples" section. Perhaps we could compromise and move the McLibel section to the article entitled "English Defamation Laws."

Thank you for engaging with me, Sincerely, Afgmcdonald (talk) 23:05, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Afgmcdonald! I apologize for the delay responding to your message here - I was away for the holidays and I'm just now getting caught up with all of my Wikipedia messages and emails :-). Sounds fine to me; I was just removing and fixing what I felt was best. Let me know if you have questions or need anything else and I'll be happy to help. I hope you had a great Thanksgiving and I wish you happy editing. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:10, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Re that guy's talk page access

Didn't mean to wheel-war, had just loaded the block menu before you'd adjusted their block. I'm not imagining them using UTRS in a valid manner, though. Ian.thomson (talk) 23:49, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ian.thomson - No worries; it happens all the time and it's not a big deal. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:04, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No subject

grandayy is an actual person dude

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malta man — Preceding unsigned comment added by GDanthonyYT (talk • contribs) 16:03, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GDanthonyYT! I apologize for the delay responding to your message. I was away for the holidays and I'm just now getting caught up with all of my Wikipedia messages and emails :-). There were a few issues with the article you created. The most prominent one is that, given your username and the name of the article subject you created a page about, it appears that you're this article subject and attempting to create an article about yourself and your YouTube channel. If I'm correct about this, your creation is both a conflict of interest issue as well as an attempt to advertise or promote yourself (which would make the article you created eligible for speedy deletion under the G11 criterion). This is most likely why the article was deleted. Please review and take the time to understand the two Wikipedia policies and behavioral guidelines I linked you to and let me know if you have any questions about them. I'll be happy to answer them and assist you if you do. If I'm mistaken about anything I've said in this response, please don't hesitate to let me know and feel free to elaborate further, and I'll be happy to help you. Thanks for the message, I hope you had a great Thanksgiving holiday, and I wish you happy editing. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:25, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

AutoWikiBrowser

How do I use AutoWikiBrowser? —Eli355 (talk • contribs) 23:07, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) @Eli355: Hi, While I am not that good with AWB, I think This article may help. --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:43, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Eli355 - As I probably said in my response to you above (in our discussion about notability), I apologize for the delay responding to your message. I was away for the Thanksgiving holiday and I'm just now getting caught up with all of my Wikipedia messages and emails... I have a lot of them... lol :-). To be able to use AutoWikiBrowser, you need to have the permissions first. It looks like you've requested and were approved for the permissions to use it since you're on the list of approved users. You just need to download and install the program. I believe that it requires a Windows Operating System (Windows Vista or later) to use. Once you've done this and you can launch it and sign in without any errors or trouble, you're all set to begin using it. The user manual that you should refer to and read through entirely is here - you should definitely read it and make sure any specific questions you have are answered before you begin using AWB to make changes on Wikipedia. Remember that you're completely responsible for your edits - even edits made from automated tools like this one. I was approved to use AWB a long time ago and before I was an admin on Wikipedia, but I didn't use it much beyond requesting access, installing the program, launching it, and making maybe one or two changes. I just didn't find the tool right for me. If you have any more questions or need other help, let me know and I'll be happy to answer them or at least find you the person who can :-). As I said above in our other discussion above: I hope you had a great holiday and I wish you happy editing! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:49, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oversight request

Have a look what I did recently because I made an accidental mistake, because I was confused whenever was a new article for removing amount of content for the existing article which i am requesting for to avoid scrutiny. Sheldybett (talk) 00:48, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sheldybett! I apologize for the delay responding to your message here. I was away for the holiday visiting family and I'm just now getting caught up with all of my Wikipedia messages and emails here :-). If this is a request for suppression about anything, please email me by clicking here so that the details of your request remain private. If this is just a concern regarding some page moves that ended up being made by mistake, don't worry about that at all. I've done that plenty of times by mistake... it happens and it's not a big deal at all :-). Mistaken page moves wouldn't be something that's eligible for suppression, nor would it be something that would even be eligible for revision deletion. In a nutshell: we cannot and we do not hide or redact mistakes simply because they were such; mistakes have to stay visible. Like I said though, I have plenty of ridiculous and outright stupid mistakes that are visible and that you could find and see... they happen... If I'm incorrect and your request involves more than hiding simple mistakes from public view, please let me know via email so that I can help you. You'll need to describe exactly what needs to be hidden and why, and provide exact diffs to the revisions or logs that need such - it just makes it easier for me to find. If you have any questions or concerns that you can ask without disclosing anything specific that shouldn't be talked about here, let me know via email. Otherwise, let me know here. Either way, I'll be more than happy to answer them and help you. I hope you had a great holiday and I hope to hear back from you soon. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:01, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom 2018 election voter message

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Update for Teller (magician)

Fix his height -

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0854418/bio — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.239.130.95 (talk) 03:44, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! I've fixed the article subject's height with my edit here and added a link to the IMDb biography you listed above. I understand if you weren't sure how to cite a source in-line with the changes you're making in an article, but I'm failing to understand why you changed the height from an incorrect value to be another incorrect value compared to the source you provided to me with your edit here... that doesn't make sense to me, and this is why I reverted the edit you made due to not citing a reliable source (as well as why other editors do this, too). If you have questions or need anything, let me know and I'll be happy to help you. Thanks for the message and for the reference nonetheless; despite my question about your edit, the fact that the article subject's information is correct is what's most important. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:14, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mess

Can you revert all of the vandalism on this this page I can’t even revert all. Thanks. A.R.M. 22:10, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Already done --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:42, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi ARMcgrath! I apologize for the delay responding to your message here. I was away for the holidays and I'm just now getting caught up with all of my Wikipedia messages and emails :-). It looks like the issue has been resolved, but if this is not correct please let me know so that I can take another look. If you run into any more disruption or vandalism that's out of control like this and you need help, please don't hesitate to message me here and I'll be happy to step in and get things back under control ;-). I hope you had a good holiday and I wish you well. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:16, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Username change request

Can you help me change my username? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kliqjaw (talk • contribs) 04:26, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Hi. Please see this article on how to do so. Thanks. --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:41, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Kliqjaw! Please accept my apologies for the delay responding to your message here. I was away for the holidays and I'm just now getting caught up with all of my Wikipedia emails, messages, requests, etc... there's a lot to go through :-). Sure, not a problem. Just follow the instructions here, pick a new username that's appropriate and compliant with policy, and request the username change by navigating to the corresponding request page (it's all in the instructions at the link I provided for you). If you run into any questions or get stuck, or if you have any more questions for me - let me know and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. I wish you well and the best of luck with your username change. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:20, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just started using Huggle

Hi, I've just started using Huggle. Could you please tell me what "Meta information - ORES Goodfaith: 364 Bot score: 48 ORES Score: -272" means? Thank you. JACKINTHEBOX • TALK 05:24, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JackintheBox! Please accept my apologies for the delay responding to your message here. I was away for the holidays and I'm just now getting caught up with all of my Wikipedia emails, messages, requests, etc... As you can imagine, there's a lot of messages for me to go through :-).
So, the information you pasted here (in general) is an evaluation as to whether or not the particular edit you're looking at is bad faith vandalism or disruption. To be more specific: It is a list of results from Wikipedia's different scoring systems that are given to each edit. They use different methods and processes to determine the likelihood that the edit you're currently reviewing is bad-faith vandalism, harassment, or disruption. With ORES and most other tools and bots (such as ClueBot NG, generally the higher score that an edit is given means a higher probability that the edit is malicious or bad-faith disruption. In the readout that you pasted above: ORES scored the edit a -272, the bot score came out as a 48 (very low), and the ORES Goodfaith score (something I personally haven't looked into much at all) came out as a 364. This readout tells me that edit you were currently looking at on Huggle at the time you copied this information for me to read had a fairly high likelihood of being legitimate and not made in bad faith. You can read more information about these different scoring systems by navigating to the ORES wiki page and ClueBot NG's user page (both I've provided links to above, of course). More information may also be available by looking at Huggle's Manual. Please let me know if you have any more questions about Huggle or how things work, or if you need my help or input with anything else... I'll be more than happy to help you out. I hope you had a great holiday and I wish you happy editing and good hunting with cleaning up vandalism! Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:38, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much (my (school) holidays only start on 14 Dec, since I'm currently living in China)! JACKINTHEBOX • TALK 03:05, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
JackintheBox - Awesome deal! You're very welcome :-). Please don't hesitate to message me here if you have any more questions or need my assistance with anything - I'll be happy to help. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:41, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Thegooduser - Received and responded. :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:40, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

move from draft to live wiki

Hi,

How do I make my wiki page live if I am adding to a wiki page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexSmith289 (talk • contribs) 20:24, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) Hi there! If you created a draft in your sandbox, simply click the "Move" button and state a reason why you are preforming the move. I saw that you may have by accident moved your userpage to the mainspace. Before doing so, I strongly suggest you to read This Page. Thanks.--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:20, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi AlexSmith289! What's the location of the page that you're currently working on? It looks like your sandbox is empty and I don't see where you've created another page before... If you're looking to create a new article, you should refer to this page and follow the wizard and have it help you with this. Since this is your first time creating a new article, there's a lot that you need to check and verify before you start writing, and the wizard will help you with that process. If you haven't already gone through Wikipedia's new user tutorial, I highly recommend that you do so and before you do anything else on Wikipedia. It will provide you with many helpful walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will be significantly helpful to you (including article creation and content expansion - what you're asking about here). Most users who take this advice tell me later that it was very helpful to them and saved them hours if not over a day of of wasted time and being left feeling frustrated and feeling like you can't succeed here - that's absolutely not true. This is obviously your choice, but I would not skip going through this tutorial... It's for your benefit, and it will help you a lot. Please let me know if I can help you with anything else and I'll be happy to do so. Thanks again for the message, I hope you had a good Thanksgiving holiday, and I wish you happy editing! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:48, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please help!

Hi, why dod you delete my page in our country its real? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Janeka pateicības diena (talk • contribs) 07:57, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Janeka pateicības diena, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your question. Your user page was deleted because it appeared that you were referring to yourself in the content and it didn't seem to be Wikipedia-related in nature. If I'm incorrect about this, please accept my apologies for the confusion. If you have any more questions or additional concerns, please let me know and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks again for the message and I wish you happy editing :-). Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:09, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Protection Level Change - Alpine Armoring Inc

Hi Oshwah,

I writing to you in reference to the Wikipedia page for Alpine Armoring Inc. I noticed that you had changed the protection level for this particular page on 14th September 2017. I wanted to make a few changes to the same and was wondering how to get access. I would really appreciate any help with this. Thank you.

Best regards, Mahathi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahathi.Vantedhu (talk • contribs) 15:07, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mahathi.Vantedhu! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your question. The page is currently under template protection, meaning that it can only be edited by users who have template editor user rights. It basically makes sure that only trusted users who are vetted and have demonstrated knowledge and proficiency with editing and carefully implementing template code can make changes to those kinds of pages. It prevents someone from messing up a template that's widely used by thousands of articles or visible on a page that receives a high number of views (such as this one) and making a huge mess... lol. No worries though - If you have changes that you think will improve the page, you can still have those changes saved there. All you need to do is create an edit request on the page's talk page and include why it should be updated and what your changes will improve, as well as exactly what on the page needs to be changed or replaced in order to implement your changes and improvements fully. You'll just follow the instructions at the link I provided, save the edit request, and a template editor will review and apply the changes shortly afterwards (assuming they don't find any issues or problems). Do you have your changes saved to a sandbox within your user space or at another location? If so, be sure to include a link to that page in your request as well so that they can view it. It makes life much easier on them by doing so :-). Please let me know if you have any questions or run into any issues or problems with filling out that edit request or filing it on the page's talk page - I'll be more than happy to help you if you get stuck anywhere. I hope my response was helpful to you, and I wish you a great rest of your day and happy editing! Cheers :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:17, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much. I will follow the instructions provided in the link. Best regards, Mahathi.Vantedhu (talk) 15:22, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Mahathi.Vantedhu - You bet; always happy to help. Good luck with the request and I hope all goes well. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:41, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am not grandayy

I am not grandayy even at all!

Ik, but can someone please make a page on grandayy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GDanthonyYT (talk • contribs) 16:07, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi GDanthonyYT - thanks for the message. Have you considered creating a draft article about this person so that you can build, fix, expand, and get it ready for review, approval, and publishing? You should refer to the link above and follow the directions so that you can get started and do this. If you have any questions about this process, let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again, and I wish you happy editing! Cheers :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:01, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Removed [Ali Shahroudi] because I have fixed the issue;"

I just got a message from you. I guess I am new to this. This page was removed after many years. It is about the American Artist, Ali Shahroudi. The editor who removed it said he could not find any references. I provided the references by coping the entire page from Everybodywiki.com. He also claimed he could not find the artist on the net! I searched and found many references to him, but it has to have the connection to his style: expromanticism. Please restore the page. That is what I was trying to do.

(====) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glenrhine (talk • contribs) 16:45, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Glenrhine! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your explanation and your concerns. The article you're referring to (Ali Shahroudi) was recently deleted due to the outcome of an articles for deletion discussion. It ruled by consensus that the article should be deleted and hence this is what happened. The deletion discussion has since closed; you cannot add any input or discussion to it now, but you can view the discussion here if you'd like. I understand that you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and should be restored, but disrupting a Wikipedia shortcut page and replacing it with your modified content is not the proper way to go about resolving this. It's disruptive and can result in being blocked if you were to repeatedly do this (especially despite being asked to stop) - so don't do that ;-).
If you wish to create a new article on this person and with the content and references you found, you can do this by following the instructions available on this page. It will allow you to create a draft article and give you all the time you need to expand and fix everything and have it ready for review, approval, and publishing. Just follow the directions on the page and it will help you to get started. If you have any questions about this process or need any more assistance, please let me know and I'll be happy to help you. I hope you have a great rest of your day, I wish you good luck with getting this article published from your draft, and I wish you happy editing :-). Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:58, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User name

Hello Oshwah. Can you please change my user name to in all language version of Wikipedia? Reason: I think I am violating the privacy rights of the person I use his name. Thanks :) Berk zorlutuna (talk) 18:57, 27 November 2018 (UTC)Berk zorlutuna[reply]

Berk zorlutuna -  Done. You have now officially been renamed to Gororotomir712. Let me know if you need anything else and I'll be happy to help. Cheers! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:05, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Being called names

Where should I report this editor, Beyond My Ken, for swearing/name calling? Most of the time I try to report abuse against myself, most administrators, don't do jack. Spshu (talk) 20:32, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Spshu - Let me talk to him directly for you and defuse the situation. In general, it is seen as insulting when an experienced editor is left a template like that on their user talk page. It makes them feel belittled, treated like a newbie or an inexperienced user, and it leads to frustration and sometimes uncivil responses in return. Next time, just message him with a quick message and ask him about a certain edit if you have questions. :-)
Usually when I handle cases and situations like this with an informal message and a simple discussion with the user, it takes care of it and things get resolved quickly and peacefully. That's the goal here; we obviously don't want to run at Beyond My Ken guns blazing, wagging my finger, and scolding at him... because, well, obviously that's not going to help... right? :-) In the meantime, just move on, don't provoke anything further, and I'll see what's going and and make sure all is okay. If you have further questions or concerns, let me know and I'll be happy to help you out. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:43, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Oshwah, as a brief bit of background you might want to check the history of Jingle Bells, which this user has been repeatedly disrupting and which caused BMK to snap. Yes, Bad Words Are Bad, but this isn't a case of Spshu coming to you with clean hands. ‑ Iridescent 20:46, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Iridescent - 10-4; thank you for the information. I'll handle this peacefully with both BMK and Spshu and I won't point fingers at anybody. I'm good at defusing situations and I'll make sure both users are taken care of. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:50, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
An BMK trying to set up a 3RR by not giving a edit summary (which most editors would revert out of hand), Iridescent? Then not recognizing this error, he start up with ANB threats in edit summaries and swears in an edit summary because he was caught not using an edit summary to set me up? Excuse me for trying to focus on content. Spshu (talk) 21:10, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging Iridescent for Spshu; I don't think he watchlists my user talk page. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:19, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Spshu, I'm sure you know perfectly well that while edit summaries are a courtesy, they're not and never have been compulsory. Frankly, if you repeatedly vandalised an article I'd been working on and then spammed a template intended for brand-new accounts on my talkpage, I'd probably have been considerably ruder. ‑ Iridescent 21:25, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
{ping|Iridescent}}, Leaving a blank revert is a claim of vandalism, which there isn't as I have indicated a policy-guidlines in my edit summary. ("If you are undoing an edit that is not vandalism, explain the reason in the edit summary. Do not use the default message only.") He in my eyes vandalized the article then claim I was the vandal. He then jump to protection under BRD "Consider reverting only when necessary. BRD does not encourage reverting, but recognizes that reversions happen. When reverting, be specific about your reasons in the edit summary and use links if needed." He was unspecific in both revert edit summary. He wants to be treated as an experienced editor - act like one. I use templates as to get the point across that it is not just my opinion that xyz (in this case having an edit summary) is an issue. Spshu (talk) 22:43, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging Iridescent for Spshu. The template he added above is malformed. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:47, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry Oshwah, I had no intention on making a cmt at BMK's talk until I saw the issue and then I didn't think of stepping on your toes :P - FlightTime (open channel) 21:22, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
FlightTime - No toes were stepped on. ;-) It's not out of line to message another user (especially an experienced long-term editor who knows better) and point out their incivility or other violation of policy and ask them about it. In general, experienced and long-term contributors know and understand that they'll receive push-back when policies are violated, and holding others accountable is the right thing to do for anyone who needs to be. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:28, 27 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 00:41, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Received and responded. Thanks! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:51, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

PROD LOG

My PROD LOG does not work...--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:11, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thegooduser - It looks like you don't have a subpage created containing PROD logs... you probably don't have PROD logging enabled in Twinkle. Follow the documentation here and make sure that you have logging enabled... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:25, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's enabled. Does not work. --Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:27, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I just created a blank PROD log page in your user space for you. Try tagging a page for PROD again and see if it logs anything... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:30, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You cant threaten me like that!!!!!

Please be polite dont scold me i didnt destroy your life or anything stop insulting me and what is the problem if my name was there in last it wont change anything no one will get harmed so stop changing it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Devilslayer2002 (talk • contribs) 15:08, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Because Wikipedia is not about you. Stop your vandalism or you will be blocked ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 15:13, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Remember to avoid feeding the trolls. They were clearly vandalizing and trolling here, and responses like these give them attention and time - exactly what they're looking for. It's their main motivation and the reason why they do this in the first place. Don't be fooled, and don't give them the recognition, effort, and time that they're looking for ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:09, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Revdel

For the record, you would've had to have gone waaaay further back--to Special:Diff/871034468--to revdel this. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 15:36, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Writ Keeper! Yeah... someone came to me on IRC saying that the website was malicious and a script on there was flagging their antivirus. I redacted that revision text pending a look mainly because it was the diff that was given to me; I was looking for the first revision that added it while I took a peek at the site. I checked it out, didn't see anything harmful, and I undid the change and let them know. That was what you saw. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:07, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, gotcha. I should've known you were on top of it ;) Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 17:12, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Writ Keeper - Ahh, it's all good, man... I'd rather you say something and let me know if you think I made a mistake of if I missed or overlooked a thing... I'm not one of those editors who get all insulted and offended just because someone thinks I did something wrong. ;-) It's good that you're keeping eyes out and making sure that cleanup of messes aren't inadvertently leaving more messes... lol :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:19, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I know it's old, but...

...please be careful when using automated tools to revert stuff. In this diff, you reverted with an edit summary of "unexplained content removal". This is not a valid reason given that the IP that removed the content included an edit summary of "Deleted an off-topic (likely self-promotional) section about a specific drift boat manufacturer that had been placed between sections about the two predominant general types of drift boat." I suspect it may have been an accident, but it's good to be sure when you click those Huggle links. Thanks for all your hard work. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:55, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nihonjoe - Oh, what the hell? I definitely didn't mean to revert that edit... I'll leave a message on the user's talk page and let them know that their edit was good, and apologize. Thanks for letting me know. I'm honestly not sure how that happened.... :-/ ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:57, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Just keep in mind it's about 9 months old, so they may not even remember making the edit. I'm going through the edits of another user who is causing problems, and ran across this one. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:02, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Nihonjoe - To me, it doesn't matter how long ago it was... I still owe that IP user an apology, as well as a "thank you" to Uvedale for undoing the revert and fixing the article to be the best version of what we've written. I appreciate the message and for letting me know about this. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:09, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User blocked in error

I personally know WobblyEsq. I'm not sure why he's suspected of being a sockpuppet, but he's not. That's his only account. Chris Hathcock 18:19, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Chrisauhatch - The user has been blocked due to long-term sock puppetry and abuse of the project. If this is their only account and the block made an error, the user can appeal the block by following the instructions here. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:29, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Chris Hathcock 18:46, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Chrisauhatch - No problem. WobblyEsq will need to do this themselves and on their own user talk page; other editors cannot do it for them. Make sure that this is communicated so that any appeal goes smoothly and without unnecessary delay in the process. Please let me know if I can help you with anything else and I'll be happy to do so. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:02, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I let him know, I think he'll actually have to submit it through UTRS because he's blocked from editing his talk page. Chris Hathcock 19:26, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Chris Hathcock - Correct. It's essentially the same process as if they were to appeal it on their user talk page... he'll just follow the instructions and send the appeal to the UTRS team for evaluation. He'll generally hear back from someone within a day or so; they're usually pretty good about getting back to people and staying on top of things. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:29, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oilers Edit - Sweaters

Hello, I'm Oshwah. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —specifically this edit to Edmonton Oilers— because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help Desk. Thanks. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:44, 28 November 2018 (UTC) 

   In hockey, the uniform is traditionally called a sweater. It is something somewhat unique to the sport.Bwana2018 (talk) 19:51, 28 November 2018 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwana2018 (talk • contribs)
Hi Bwana2018, and thank you for leaving me a message here and for explaining your edit. I would start a talk page discussion regarding your thoughts so that other editors can provide input - I would bet that there are others who disagree with the change (else the article would've already called them 'sweaters'). Please let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:09, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Missing edit toolbar now available as a gadget

As a follow-up to User:Oshwah/TalkPageArchives/2018-11#Missing edit toolbar, User:Writ Keeper has graciously created a gadget to restore the now-defunct 2006 toolbar, per Wikipedia:Legacy toolbar. - BilCat (talk) 03:28, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like I won't need to create one now.--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:31, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
BilCat - Cool deal! That'll be helpful to editors who want to keep it. Thanks for the message and for sharing this! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:46, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. Your talk page gets a lot of traffic, so I posted it here for those who.might be interested in using it, especially since I'd asked about it before. - BilCat (talk) 03:54, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oshwah My legacy bar is not working...--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:58, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thegooduser - Where did you add the code at? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:16, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
User:Thegooduser/Legacybar.js--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 04:17, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
User:Thegooduser/legacyToolbar.js--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 04:18, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You don't need to copy the source like that. This script is a gadget, so you just need to go to Special:Preferences, and in the Editing section of the Gadgets tab, check the box next to the "Enable the legacy (2006) editing toolbar" entry (as well as the refToolbar and extra buttons right below it if you want those) and then hit "Save" at the bottom. Also make sure that the "Enable the editing toolbar" option in the Editing tab is unchecked, since that one will override the legacy toolbar if you select it.

FWIW, it's generally not a good idea to copy the source code of a script like that regardless. Instead, if there's a user script you want to install, you add an entry for it in your common.js page, like so: mw.loader.load("/enwiki/w/index.php?title=<script location>&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript"); So if the script you want to install is located at User:Writ_Keeper/Scripts/legacyToolbar.js, then you'd install it by adding the line mw.loader.load("/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User:Writ_Keeper/Scripts/legacyToolbar.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript"); to your common.js page, instead of actually copying and pasting the code. Again, you don't need to do that here, since this script is now a Gadget, but just in general. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 04:38, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

PROD LOG

I don't know what page to tag for PROD--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 03:48, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:PROD for the guidelines and when it's appropriate to tag an article for proposed deletion compared to speedy deletion or nominating it for a discussion. Let me know when you manage to tag an article under the guidelines, and whether or not the PROD logging is working. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:12, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

TS Ileana

Could you please move User:Figfires/Tropical Storm Ileana (2018) to Tropical Storm Ileana (2018)? FigfiresSend me a message! 05:00, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Figfires -  Done. Let me know if I can do anything else for you. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:05, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia mistake

Nandamuri bala krishna Wikipedia and also i have personal question how to become like you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:669F:52AB:2C8A:6C18:38C4:944F (talk) 10:45, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! I'm not sure what you're trying to ask in your first statement. If you could elaborate a bit further about what you're looking for, I'll be happy to help you... just let me know. Cheer ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:13, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) Something to do with Nandamuri Balakrishna maybe? Adam9007 (talk) 01:39, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

New Skylab controversy RfC proposal

Hi! I have drafted another RfC at Talk:Skylab_controversy#New_RfC_proposal. Please comment on how best to get appropriate input from the Wikipedia editor community. -- ke4roh (talk) 14:44, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ke4roh - I don't recall being involved with this article at all. What's the issue that's being discussed exactly? What are you proposing that you believe will resolve it? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:16, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I had previously invited your assistance at User:Oshwah/TalkPageArchives/2018-10#Skylab_mutiny_guidance and we had a discussion at User:Oshwah/TalkPageArchives/2018-10#Help_crafting_an_RfC about how to proceed with the RfC that was stuck. I have drafted this new one which may or may not be stuck (judging by comments thus far). I would appreciate your even-tempered outsider input. -- ke4roh (talk) 16:00, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ke4roh - Ahh, yes yes - I do remember that. :-) I apologize; I have so much and so many different Wikipedia things going on - it's easy for me to forget things and in short time because of that. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:12, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nov 2018

Hi ~Oshwah~, please review our page, we'd like to add content about Sentic Technologies SenticTech (talk) 18:16, 29 November 2018 (UTC) Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.91.96.17 (talk) 18:21, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker). In order to be unblocked you will need to read WP:COI, This page, and This article. And then submit an unblock request on the talk page of the blocked account. Thanks.--Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 01:16, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Removing personal website link from my user page

Hi Oshwah,

I'm a new editor but I don't understand why you removed my personal website and twitter handle from my user page. You cited "Removing per WP:NOTSOCIAL", but the NOTSOCIAL policy contains nothing about whether or not having a personal website or twitter handle is ok or not ok. On the other hand, the guide on user pages states:

"You are also welcome to include a simple link to your personal home page."

This is what I had, alongside my twitter handle. There was no excessive self-promotion and this was not the only thing I had on there (at the moment my user page is short because I'm still building it).

Can you please quote the specific part of the NOTSOCIAL policy which disallows having a personal website and twitter handle listed on the user page?

WaspWatcher (talk) 01:37, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi WaspWatcher, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your thoughts and your questions about my edit to your user page, and I'll be more than happy to explain and discuss it with you. I typically remove these kinds of external links from user pages if the user is very new to Wikipedia, and due to them using their user page like a social networking profile, their personal web page, or an attempt to advertise or promote themselves in conflict of Wikipedia's policies (such as this page for a list of things that we don't allow on user pages). By the spirit of policy, if a brand new user creates a user page with that kind of content and their lack of other contributions show that they've made no significant edits outside of their user page, we'll either remove the external links from the page or delete the page entirely per U5 or G11 of Wikipedia's speedy deletion criteria. In my experience with patrolling new user account and edit logs for this kind of content, I'd say that per every 100 users that create an account, add this kind of content to their user page - that 95 of them stop editing after this and we don't see them make any more edits again. It appears that I messed up in your case; I believed that you were one of those users and I removed those links based on my concern that you might have one of those users. Please accept my apologies and feel free to restore the content I removed. I hope my response helped you to understand why I do this in most situations. You'd be surprised with how much spam, advertising and promotion, or blatantly problematic user pages I have to remove each day. :-) Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns about this, and I'll be happy to discuss it further with you and answer any questions and help you. Again, please accept my apologies for the misjudgment in your particular case. I hope you have a great rest of your day, and I wish you happy editing. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:03, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Oshwah, Thanks for getting back to me so quickly and explaining your rationale. I can definitely understand how difficult it must be to stay on top of spam so no worries. I'll roll it back and keep editing :-)WaspWatcher (talk) 02:09, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
WaspWatcher - Cool deal; thanks for being understanding. :-) If you're just getting started here, I can't recommend strongly enough that you go through Wikipedia's new user tutorial and complete it. It will provide you with many helpful walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will be significantly helpful to you. Most users who take this advice tell me later that it was very helpful to them and saved them hours if not days of of wasted time and being left feeling frustrated and feeling like you can't succeed here. Most users will make the mistake of jumping right into article creation, spend hours of time building and expanding it, and without taking the time to understand the important policies and guidelines regarding article creation and content inclusion first... don't make that mistake! :-) If you have any questions about Wikipedia or if you need my help or input about anything, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to help you. Thanks again for the response and for your understanding. I hope you enjoy your stay here, and that you become a long-term and experienced editor here. We need good editors and contributors, and I hope you decide to stick around ;-). When I started editing here, I didn't think I'd be around for very long..... that was 11 years ago and I obviously never left... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:18, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Please consider removing talk page access. -★- PlyrStar93 →Message me. ← 01:43, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

PlyrStar93 -  Done. Thanks for letting me know about the shenanigans the user was pulling. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:46, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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This user has continued to add promotional content on their talkpage despite your block on them. Thanks. 2601:1C0:4401:24A0:E8F4:59B2:BF85:C8A3 (talk) 04:19, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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