Talk:P. V. Narasimha Rao

Failed GA

The referencing is okay, but please see the WP:LoCE about the prose. It looks strange, the sort of strange that I can't name. Maybe someone else can.--Rmky87 17:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Sathya Sai Baba devotee

If reliable references can be found, it may be appropriate to have small "personal" section about his devotion to Sathya Sai Baba. I happen to know that Rao is an SSB devotee and I can get some of SSB's speeches where he praised Rao's political actions, but I guess it call comes down to reliable references. Ekantik ^talk 15:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

GA review

I think the lead can be improved per WP:LEAD to include a better review of this article, including person's achievements, "corruption", "later life", and where he died --Rayis 12:08, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

GA on hold

Sorry if my review overlaps with the person above, but no one marked that they were reviewing this article so took it. Anyway, it is almost there, but I would like to see some things fixed within the next few days:

• There is a lot of stylistic but grammatically incorrect comma usage. Examples are the first sentence and the sentence and "He was a polyglot and could speak 13 languages, including Urdu..." and "When the Indian National Congress split in 1969, Rao remained loyal to Prime Minister Indira Gandhi, and stayed so during the Emergency period (1975 - 77)." Commas are only appropriate to separate clauses when the clause after the comma is a complete sentence.
• It is not clear from reading the article or the citation provided why he is in the Guinness Book of World Records.
• The National security, foreign policy and crisis management heading needs to be prose, not a bulleted list.
• The Corruption items read too much like legal briefs - please just write paragraphs about each case.
• Too many primary sources - for items like his being kidnapped by Kashmiri terrorists, you should find news stories or books instead of articles of parliament.

That's it for now. --Mus Musculus (talk) 05:04, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Excellent work, thanks for addressing these issues. The article is now listed. --Mus Musculus (talk) 18:20, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Anyone who knows Telugu or can translate from Telugu wiki

Can anyone who knows Telugu please translate the table at the the Telugu version of the Narasimha Rao article to English. Cheers.----Shahab 05:26, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Quotes

The quotes section at the end seems rather churlish and trivial, besides being unsourced. I would suggest deleteing it. Amit@Talk 17:29, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

One of the most important...

"He led one of the most important admistrations" - isn't this POV? Amit@Talk 17:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I suppose so. But being POV doesn't exclude being NPOV.--Shahab (talk) 04:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Mr. Smartypants :P Amit@Talk 11:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Speculation...

"It is speculated that he was in the running for president" ... This shouldn't be in wikipedia; besides obviously being "speculative", it is weasely, and has been sourced from a newspaper editor's blog. I suggest we remove this line. Amit@Talk 17:42, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Great power

This is unencyclopaedic : "This can be considered as the launching of India's emergence as a great power." IMHO we should remove it. Amit@Talk 17:46, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Noone watching?

Is noone watching this article? I came here after learning from the India Portal that it's the current Indian collaboration of the week, and did some cleanup and made some suggestions. Can someone please comment? Thanks. Amit@Talk 15:14, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

One can use this article for data-mining. Ekantik ^talk 18:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

This discussion is transcluded from Talk:P. V. Narasimha Rao/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.

Starting GA reassessment as part of the GA Sweeps process. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:40, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Checking against GA criteria

GA review (see here for criteria)

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1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

   the use of first names or popularly known as names are deprecated in MoS, pleae use Rao consistently throughout.

   Economic reforms: the list needs to be turned into prose

   Corruption scandals: Some of the more prominent examples were: Bad prose, as if introducing a list. Please rephrase.

   Legacy: turn into prose

   Overall: the whole artcile could do with thorough copy-editing.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   There are a number of dead links [1]; and there are citation needed tags which need addressing

   citations need to be consistently formatted, I recommend using the appropriate citation templates.

   ref #13 [2] was to a blog not RS - now a dead link

   ref #15 [3] is a blog

   ref #17 [4] is to geocities, not a RS

   can you demonstrate that ref #21 [5] is a RS?

   ref #25 [6] is a blog

   can you demonstrate that ref #30 [7] is a RS, likewise ref #37 [8] and ref #41 [9]

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

   Controversy after death: For one thing, the Gandhi dynasty’s penchant to bury non-dynasty leaders as immaterial has kept PVN in the forgotten category. POV statemnet

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   I am going to delist this artcile as it needs more work than can be done in a few days. Jezhotwells (talk) 20:13, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

   Major contributors and projects will be notified. Jezhotwells (talk) 20:27, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Rise in separatist movements

By the time PV was into PM position all insurgencies were at their peak (all these were peaked in 1980s). PV solved one of the biggest insurgency facing the country that time (Punjab). Also military has neutralized most of North eastern insurgents. He did to calm the J&K which was aggravated by preceding Rajiv and VP Singh govenments. But the article showing contrasting to the fact none of the references supports the article. Mghori (talk) 08:00, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Any reliable references that support the changes you have made? You have completely turned the section around , that too by removing references. --Deepak D'Souza (talk) 17:14, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

None of references mention the escalation during PV's regime hence removed.Mghori (talk) 01:55, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

You havent mentioned any sources at all for your edits. It is the duty of the editor making the changes to justify your changes, which you havent. Fell free to cite any sources you have here. Till then the existing content will remain. --Deepak D'Souza (talk) 03:45, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

OK. I will add with referenced. But current content is clear OR. Hence removed. Mghori (talk) 06:26, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Unless you can come up with references to the contrary you cannot claim that it is OR. Your content is more suitable for the OR tag than the current content. --Deepak D'Souza (talk) 07:17, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

There is no relation to escalation during Rao's period hence it is unrelated. I observe you use different standard for my reference for Karkare. Mghori (talk) 04:28, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

You have promised to come back with references which you havent. Instead you are now trying to link up two articles which have no relation. The only "reasoning" that you have provided seems like a tit-for-tat reversal. Sorry , doesn't work that way. --Deepak D'Souza (talk) 07:07, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

The current content is clear OR. Hence removed.219.95.36.157 (talk) 06:47, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

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Regarding Hindu muslim riots

Regarding the line, "Rao's term also saw the destruction of the Babri Mosque in Ayodhya which triggered one of the worst Hindu-Muslim riots in the country since its independence.", in the introduction. The proof that there were hindu muslim riots has not been quoted. BBC report does not in itself refer to any statistics of people dead or injured and thus this sentence cannot be used. In addition the BBC report quotes it is the worst riots which has not been substantiated. BBC is not a legal constitutional body whose reports can be quoted regarding riots without statistics. I would suggest that this sentence be removed and only the incident of Babri masjid demolition be presented where the reference is made to a legal proceeding. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sailpra (talk • contribs) 19:30, 3 March 2012 (UTC) Prasanth@Sailpra (talk) 19:35, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

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removing babri masjid rear view

This picture does not belong here. This is a biography of a former prime minister very well known for other reasons than being the PM when the mosque was torn down. Even if it was the only best known fact about him, which is most obviously not, mentioning the issue in the article is sufficient. If there are no other concerns I will go ahead and delete the pic from this article in a week.Lone.Wolf (talk) 14:32, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
removedLone.Wolf (talk) 16:21, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

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Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:P. V. Narasimha Rao/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Has good images and many subheadings with detail, but lacks links in one section. Once that's done, go to WP:WIAGA for further improvements.

Last edited at 03:05, 1 March 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 02:06, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Photo

The current photo is bad, and is really unfitting for a Prime Minister of the world's largest democracy. It should be changed. Does anyone know any good replacements? Insert90 (talk) 03:52, 5 August 2016 (UTC)