Talk:Longest NCAA Division I football winning streaks

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Rename

This is another one of those article that needs to be renamed to mention something about what it is. "Longest winning streaks" isn't enough, otherwise it should include every sport. It should be renamed to something like Longest NCAA Division I-A football winning streaks.--NMajdan•talk 18:54, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, considering that schools such as Yale and Princeton are on this list, a more appropriate title would be Longest NCAA Division I football winning streaks. If there are no objections, I will make this move tomorrow or Friday.--NMajdan•talk 21:21, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done.--NMajdan•talk 19:41, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This list needs modified to add Boise State, which has now tied the bottom of the streak with 21 wins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.28.47.77 (talk) 12:34, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've been taking care of it, Boise is now at 23 win streak which puts them at 33. And since the chart is organized by most recent, they are the first listed at 33.Ikeray (talk) 06:59, 13 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List needs to be updated to include NDSU Bison. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.135.176.108 (talk) 03:13, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Current win streaks

North Dakota State is currently on a 25 game win streak, which would earn them a spot on the list. Do current win streaks count? 143.215.51.92 (talk) 21:36, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

More data needed.

There should be more information. Such as the year(s) the streak was in effect. Pollox87 19:12, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

USC streak should be reduced by vacated games?

I think the USC streak from 2003-2005, listed as 34 games, should be reduced to 20 games from 2003-2004, because the final two games of 2004 and all 12 wins from 2005 were vacated by the NCAA. This would drop this streak off this list, as it would no longer be among the 50 longest streaks. cmadler (talk) 03:03, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved The current 2014 NCAA record book removes this streak, apparently due to the vacated loses you cite. UW Dawgs (talk) 21:45, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

FCS teams

The NCAA record book included as a reference is specifically for D-IA/FBS and all records listed are from teams who were playing at the highest division at the time the streak occurred. People have recently begun trying to include FCS team win streaks in the list. Either the list should be fully updated to include all FCS win streaks or better year a separate section or page that lists FCS or lower division win streaks should be created. Zaqwert (talk) 05:26, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a link with a source. http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/2013/FCS.pdf

These streaks below should be on the list:

30 NDSU Current streak

24 Montana 2001-02 ended by Eastern Wash 21-30

24 Penn 1992-95 ended by Columbia 14-24

21 Colgate 2002-03 ended by Delaware 0-40

21 Montana 1995-96 ended by Marshall 29-49

Either including on the list or creating a separate section for the FCS teams would be fine with me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.135.241.45 (talk) 06:00, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If the NCAA lists FCS streaks separately from D-IA/FBS, then I feel that this article should do likewise. — Myasuda (talk) 13:05, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reformating

I disagree with the decision to reformat this page splitting up the FBS and FCS into separate lists. Several of the teams listed on the FBS list are so old that they occurred before there was an FBS division. In addition many of the FCS winning streaks include games against FBS schools. I would request that the format be changed back to a single list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hoss789 (talk • contribs) 14:14, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The sources of the two records tables are within two different 2014 NCAA record books. The current article is accurately reflecting the separation of the two, rather than comingling them. UW Dawgs (talk) 17:18, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The FBS record book includes all teams that played at the highest division in college football at the time. The teams listed in the FBS chart are still in the FBS record book, despite never having been in the D-IA/FBS classification because those teams were competing at the highest organized division at the time the record was achieved. This is consistent with how the NCAA maintains its record books, given that divisions and classifications have changed throughout the years. The NCAA maintains separate record books so separate tables makes sense and is way more consistent with how other college football related articles are presented throughout Wikipedia. Zaqwert (talk) 20:13, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

FBS and FCS tables, sourcing, formatting

Recently this article was updated with a second table, reflecting FCS streaks with a citation from the 2014 NCAA FCS record book. The existing FBS table was similarly updated with the 2014 FBS record book. Based on recent and subsequent edits, there may be some disagreement with these sources or particular records therein. If you edit, please:

Include a citation
Preserve MOS formatting 19xx–yy
Include a comment on your edit

Without these, your edit (correct or not) may be reverted to the reflect the only (two) sources currently being offered. UW Dawgs (talk) 17:14, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion of callout for Washington's unbeaten streak

Various IP editors from Microsoft are injecting a callout about Washington's unbeaten streak into the article summary, ala: "Streak also included Division I's longest unbeaten streak of 64 games (60–0–4) between 1907 and 1917."

In my view, this relevant information is better handled as a note without a callout within the table. UW Dawgs (talk) 18:58, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well first things first does the info have reliable sources to back it up.--Dcheagle • talk • contribs 02:36, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Trying to stem an edit war with a floating IP out of the Microsoft office. Cheers. UW Dawgs (talk) 03:37, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok I'm confused if Washington has a 64 game unbeaten streak then why is Washington listed as having only a 40 game unbeaten streak, why the two different numbers.--Dcheagle • talk • contribs 01:45, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Within their 64 game unbeaten streak (60-0-4), they also had a 40 game winning streak (40-0-0). The ties breakup the winning streak, but not the unbeaten streak. UW Dawgs (talk) 02:08, 29 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

NC A&T 2018

Correct me if I'm wrong but shouldn't NC A&T current 15 game winning streak be included on the FCS list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.127.148.10 (talk) 20:53, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

someone's removing UCF from the page

idk if it's salt or just someone not paying attention but they've definitely won 25 straight

"list and cite through 2017 season"

do yall want like an espn article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.24.111.121 (talk) 23:36, 25 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I came here with the same thing in mind, but maybe it's a matter of waiting until the season is over? It would certainly be annoying to have to change it every week. AlexMc (talk) 00:03, 1 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2019

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The page must be updated to more accurately reference the 2018 football season (the most recent) or be re-titled appropriately.

If the page is not re-titled then the sentence: "The following is a list of the longest winning streaks in NCAA Division I FBS of 25 games or more through the 2017 season."

Must be changed to "The following is a list of the longest winning streaks in NCAA Division I FBS of 25 games or more through the 2018 season (ongoing)." And the link "2018 season" pointing to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_season (which also shows UCF has 12 wins in the current season, more on this shortly).

This edit makes the page factual because: 1. The page is not labeled "of 25 games or more through the 2017 season". 2. In the absence of a title change then the sources must be allowed to be updated to included the most recent, verifiable information, which includes public records of the 2018 season. The following are two verifiable sources that should be added to the end of the above edited line that verify the accuracy of the following suggestion. A. https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/standings/ B. http://www.espn.com/college-football/standings

In the presence of this new information UCF would qualify for inclusion as their win streak was 25 games. The table must accurately be modified to show UCF among the table of teams that qualify for inclusion. The source of table would be modified with following code (as it was accurately done previously but then nefariously removed).

| [[UCF Knights||25| ||[[2017-2019| LSU Tigers|

}} Sae249833 (talk) 13:15, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a WP:RS for a comprehensive FBS list through the 2018 season? None exists to my knowledge. When the 2018 NCAA yearbook is published, the full section (data table and introduction) can be updated with all changes inclusive of UCF. UW Dawgs (talk) 16:13, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That information you request is not necessary to update the page. A plethora of WP:RS sources exist to support the accuracy UCF's accomplishments. The existence of an actual list is not a necessity, only that the information being presented is accurate and sourced. Your argument for exclusion is unsupportable. Due to this I will update the page accordingly at this time. If you intend to remove the edit in the absence of a fundamentally and logically separate reason from your existing I will flag your account for disreputable behavior and seek to have you banned from the site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sae249833 (talk • contribs) 18:39, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Read WP:V and WP:RS. UCF's streak can be cited. I don't believe there is a comprehensive list which can be sort through the 2018 season. If not, it will be updated with the next NCAA record book comes out, as is done every year. UW Dawgs (talk) 18:49, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, you are mistaken, WP:V supports the argument for UCF's inclusion. Verifiable sources have been cited to demonstrate the factuality of the edits. The burden is on you to provide reliable sources that disagree with UCF's inclusion. Currently the only source you have provided is your own opinion and desire to update the list based on a personally determined criteria and timeline.