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Transwiki

Please note this article has been transwikied from wikt:Class S per discussion on Talk:Yuri (term), and includes information from the Wikipedia articles Esu provided originally by User:75.15.122.52, User:Renrutal, User:Ninja neko and me, and Takarazuka Theater originally contributed by User:Relyna85. Further edit history can be found at those pages. -Malkinann (talk) 01:39, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please note that Takarazuka Theater has been merged into Takarazuka Revue. -Malkinann (talk) 11:53, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Shōjo Shōsetsu?

I've been reading a bit further on Class S, and I'm coming across the term shōjo shōsetsu, which is translated as girl's fiction. [1][2]I'm not sure if it's analagous to shoujo manga, where shōjo shōsetsu would be a demographic, not a genre, or if it is (yet another) way of saying Class S. Thoughts? -Malkinann (talk) 11:53, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say it has more to do with actual novels/fiction rather than manga which has it's own category. Think Maria-sama ga Miteru for shōjo shōsetsu I'd say, and that doesn't mean a "shōjo shōsetsu" series has to be Class S, but merely be targeted towards girls.--十八 12:04, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Shoujo Shousetsu is girl's novel, meaning a novel aimed at girl. There are novel labels aimed at girls, novels published under these labels are called Shoujo Shousetsu (girl's novel). Even light novels published under girl's labels are also called shoujo shousetsu by the publishers. Shoujo Shousetsu is used for novels and light novels aimed at girls. You can find girl oriented novel labels and girl oriented light novel labels mentioned here: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/少女小説 (also girl oriented novel/light novel magazines). --ChuChu (talk) 14:10, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you - I've just seen Yoshiya referred to as the mother of shoujo shousetsu, and I was worried that we'd gotten the article name wrong. -Malkinann (talk) 21:14, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See also

  • Gibson Girl - contemporary American equivalent of the Class S schoolgirls.[4]

I read the article on the Gibson Girl, and I don't see how it's the equivalent of Class S schoolgirls. Explain? 68.214.25.162 (talk) 02:14, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Confusion between Takarazuka and Class S

I want to notify everyone that I am going to rewrite this article according to sources mainly devoted to Class S, since at the moment the history section is a mess that mixes two different lesbian phenomena. In its ideal understanding, Class S is a hybrid of female situational homosexuality, idealized sisterhood and friendship, but most of the section for some reason is devoted to Takarazuka, which more influenced the Japanese lesbian community through androgyny and gender roles. Thus, now the section is more devoted to the muddled description of lesbian tendencies in relations between women in Japan at the beginning of the 20th century than to any of the two phenomena in general. Solaire the knight (talk) 09:36, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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