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Julia Ioffe‎

I've blocked IP range 2603:9000:a202:1d00::/64 for 72 hours. If they hop to another range, please let me know and I will semi-protect the article. --Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 19:33, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Hyperbolic asteroid

Could you give a second look to your revert of my changes to Hyperbolic asteroid? I made a series of changes (one of which was a correction of my own typo). The overall change I made was to bring the article in line with the reference to ʻOumuamua, which is an asteroid from outside the solar system. I can add it to the Talk page for debate if this is off base. Hiberniantears (talk) 16:13, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Small update, I called it out as an asteroid, not a comet. I mention this because you call attention to my possibly calling it a comet in your revert note. Hiberniantears (talk) 16:20, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Second small update. I did some digging, and I think this is the source creating confusion, from JPL is cited in the ‘Oumuamua article. Hiberniantears (talk) 16:43, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

@Hiberniantears: the JPL database is one of few still claiming that it is an asteroid. Much more people agree that it's a comet, [1] [2] and the most recent studies say that it's neither [3] [4]. Cheers, wumbolo ^^^ 16:58, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! That was a helpful reply. Although I must now conclude that it is a spaceship. :-) Hiberniantears (talk) 17:14, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

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What arbcom case are you referring to here? Jytdog (talk) 16:06, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

@Jytdog: This. Read the indef rationale: [5]; I don't think I can explain it better. If an editor was indeffed because a comment is perceived as harassment (after the ArbCom decision), the comment better be removed. Cheers, wumbolo ^^^ 16:49, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

The correct thing to link to, would have been the block log, which applied that arbcom ruling to that comment. I understand what you meant now, thanks for answering. Jytdog (talk) 16:54, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

What does this mean?

I would like to know what the following response means:

Seriously? The midterms are tomorrow! Right now, FiveThirtyEight has the House at 87.5% for Democrats, and the Senate at 83.2% for Republicans. Politico reports 216–197 for Democrats, not counting the toss-ups. wumbolo ^^^ 20:52, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

What are you trying to imply here? Please help me understand. --Tarage (talk) 19:58, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

@Tarage: that the other editor didn't AGF when looking at a userbox. Well, it's been cleared out now, I was right, and it doesn't matter anymore as MF is unblocked. wumbolo ^^^ 20:09, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Help me to understand because I am still not seeing it. Where was it stated that he was banned because of a userbox? --Tarage (talk) 22:07, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

@Tarage: she wasn't banned because of it, but because of it, Floq didn't support an unblock. wumbolo ^^^ 22:10, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Hmm... I don't see that but okay. Thank you for informing me. --Tarage (talk) 22:11, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update #022, 11 Nov 2018

Welcome AmericanAir88

Give a hearty welcome to AmericanAir88, who has adopted working on portals as one of his main purposes on Wikipedia. So far, he has created the following portals:

Way to go!

Where's Evad?

Evad disappeared from Wikipedia on October 18.

He has been, and will continue to be, sorely missed.

Hopefully, he is okay, on a Caribbean cruise or something.

The conversion continues

Portals of the old design, are slowly but surely being converted to the new single-page design.

One factor that has slowed things down is that for many sections, the section header call and section contents call are integrated into a template and buried in a lua module, locking them in on each portal. They have been that way for years.

This means that these sections can't be directly edited like the other sections on the same portal. So, search/replaces affect all the sections except those. So, upgrading headers on these portals, for example, misses the integrated sections and inadvertently results in 2 different header colors.

Before we can continue with the upgrade of these portals, the headers and section contents calls need to be restored to each portal, so that those can be edited in concert with the other sections on the portal, and worked on independently of each other.

This is underway, with a solution implemented on about 1/4 of the affected portals so far. Around 300 of them. The remaining 900 should be done within a couple weeks or so.

Going wide...

We now have banner-shaped pictures included in the introduction sections of 180 portals. The rarity of such pictures has made it difficult to find suitably narrow images for display across the tops of portals.

We have a solution for this, courtesy of FR30799386...

Most pictures are not banner-shaped. But, you can still use them as banners. Here's how:

{{Portal image banner|File:Blueberries .jpg |maxheight=120px |overflow=Hidden }}

Using both maxheight=120px and overflow=Hidden produces this:

Project's status

There are now 4,140 portals, with more being created almost daily. Prior to this project's reboot, portals were created at about the rate of 80 per year. Since April of this year, we've created about 2,600 new portals, or 32.5 years' worth at the old rate.

Of those new portals, about 3/4 of them need links leading to them. Almost all of them are linked to from the category system, but they still need links in article see also sections, at the bottom of navigation templates, and on the main portals list at Portal:Contents/Portals.

Of the 1500 portals created before the reboot, about 300 have been completely converted to the new design so far. About 1100 more have been partially converted, with intros, image slideshows, and associated wikimedia sections getting the most attention.

Discussion has resumed on the portal guidelines.

Until next issue...

See ya round the portal system! — The Transhumanist 11:47, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

Rollback

Hi. In that Fred Bauder thing, I see you suggested I violated Wikipedia:Rollback#When to use rollback. I did not use WP:Rollback, I used Twinkle's "Rollback" tool which uses the Wikimedia "Undo" function, and that policy does not apply to it. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:43, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

OK. wumbolo ^^^ 08:13, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Portals wikignome task

We need Category:Portals with titles not starting with a proper noun added to the remaining portals it is applicable to.

Differentiating these from capitalized subjects will enable many types of tasks.

I've tried Hotcat to place the category on some of the portals. It is pretty fast.

Thank you. — The Transhumanist 14:18, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Train Portal

Please elucidate your recent category addition, is "Trains" not a proper noun? Wiki itself says: Some proper nouns occur in plural form (optionally or exclusively), and then they refer to groups of entities... --Janke | Talk 09:07, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Wumbolo,

Community Wishlist Survey – NPP needs you – Vote NOW

Community Wishlist Voting takes place 16 to 30 November for the Page Curation and New Pages Feed improvements, and other software requests. The NPP community is hoping for a good turnout in support of the requests to Santa for the tools we need. This is very important as we have been asking the Foundation for these upgrades for 4 years.

If this proposal does not make it into the top ten, it is likely that the tools will be given no support at all for the foreseeable future. So please put in a vote today.

We are counting on significant support not only from our own ranks, but from everyone who is concerned with maintaining a Wikipedia that is free of vandalism, promotion, flagrant financial exploitation and other pollution.

With all 650 reviewers voting for these urgently needed improvements, our requests would be unlikely to fail. See also The Signpost Special report: 'NPP: This could be heaven or this could be hell for new users – and for the reviewers', and if you are not sure what the wish list is all about, take a sneak peek at an article in this month's upcoming issue of The Signpost which unfortunately due to staff holidays and an impending US holiday will probably not be published until after voting has closed.

Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)}18:37, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Fred Bauder

You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Fred Bauder. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Fred Bauder/Evidence. Please add your evidence by November 27, 2018, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Fred Bauder/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, --Cameron₁₁₅₉₈ ^(Talk) 21:05, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

"Gossip"

You removed a section about a controversy between Gabbie Hanna and RiceGum from both of their respective pages on basis of "gossip" because YouTube was used as a source. How can YouTube be discredited as grounds of gossip when both of those people are YouTubers using that platform for their livelihoods. Also, there are other references in both articles basing a YouTube as the source, how come those can stand but the controversy section can’t? VoltronUniverse (talk) 00:09, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

@VoltronUniverse: per WP:BLPREMOVE, controversies are a big no-no unless you can provide and cite WP:SECONDARY third-party reliable sources. YouTube is not reliable, see WP:RSP for a quick overview of what is reliable for what. wumbolo ^^^ 07:28, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

@Wumbolo: but there were other third party sources sighted. The YouTube sources weren’t even that necessary.

@VoltronUniverse: there was one other website cited, but it doesn't seem particularly reliable (the author doesn't seem to have previous experience), and per WP:EXTRAORDINARY, a good source is required here. wumbolo ^^^ 18:41, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

WP:NPA

Regarding this posting at WP:ANI:

It's a requirement -- at the very least, common courtesy -- to:

1) Notify the editors that you're demanding to be blocked

2) Provide the slightest shred of evidence to back up your claim

2a) you should use the adjective "obvious" only when something IS obvious, and not as a substitute for actual reasons.

If you don't, then someone could wind up blocked, all right, just not whom you intended. --Calton | Talk 00:39, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

I just pointed out that the discussion obviously had to get some attention. I did not have a specific list of users in my mind, so I would rather that an admin takes their time to judge each discussion participant separately. Some may need warnings; some may need blocks. wumbolo ^^^ 10:46, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Gamemaster's screen

Hi Wumbolo. Do you really consider that "Gamemaster's screen" should be deleted? why? Kintaro (talk) 19:45, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

@Kintaro: My reason is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gamemaster's screen. WP:NPRODUCT says that we need third-party coverage to have an article about a product. wumbolo ^^^ 19:56, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry but you completely missed the point. Let us put it that way: "Nike Air Max 90" is to "shoe" what "Dungeon Masters Screen" is to "Gamemaster's screen". You got it, right? a gamemaster's screen is only a type of accessory used in roleplaying-games, same as dice or character sheets. The article "Gamemaster's screen" is not affected by WP:NPRODUCT, same as nor it is the article "shoe". Please, proceed as it is due and remove the delete notice. Kintaro (talk) 20:20, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Wumbolo, I moved the present discussion to the deletion talk page. Regards. Kintaro (talk) 23:37, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Your participation at AfD

Could I ask you to please stop nominating articles for deletion? I just took a look at some stats, and in the past 6 months you have nominated 110 articles for deletion. Of those, 22 have successfully been deleted or redirected, and 82 were kept. 5 of your nominations are still open, but 4 of them are also headed towards a keep result. I don't want to give you a hard time, but might I suggest finding some articles to expand instead? You've done some excellent work in that area, and it would be great to see more of it.

I hope that you will take this message in the spirit in which it was intended, which is to help each other contribute in ways that are best for the project. Cheers. Brad v 05:16, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

I think I'll replace the AfD's with NPP, which is not purely AfD noms, when I'm in that mood. wumbolo ^^^ 08:19, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #023, 25 Nov 2018

There are now 4,180 portals.

Will we break 5,000 by the end of the year?

I know we can. But, that is up to you!

( New portals are created with {{subst:Basic portal start page}} or {{subst:bpsp}} )

Happy Holidays

Hello everyone! Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice (if it's occurring in your area of the world), and thanks for your work in maintaining, improving, and expanding portals. Cheers, — The Transhumanist 06:51, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message

Jingling along

The following portals have been created since the last issue:

Keep 'em coming!

By the way, the above list was generated using this Petscan query. It can be easily modified by changing the date. The data page (under the Output tab) also has options for receiving the data in CSV or tabbed format, which some operating systems automatically load into a spreadsheet program for ease of use, such as copying and pasting the desired column (like page names).

In closing

We'll keep it short this issue.

Expect a flood next time. Or the one after that.

Cheerio, — The Transhumanist 07:35, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Chodakiewicz

You're wrong about 3RR. And look at the talk page, no one except Volunteer Marek wants it out. I saw people saying I'm a fascist at the edit warring board! which is crazy but for some reason I can't respond there. Can you post this for me please, you guys got it all backwards, he's the one trying to present a far right guy as mainstream. 2A01:4A0:4A:52:0:0:0:E2DA (talk) 22:01, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of I'm with Her (band)

Hello! Your submission of I'm with Her (band) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 18:42, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK for I'm with Her (band)

On 7 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article I'm with Her (band), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Hillary Clinton is not with I'm with Her? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/I'm with Her (band). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, I'm with Her (band)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:03, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018

Hello Wumbolo,

Reviewer of the Year

This year's award for the Reviewer of the Year goes to Onel5969. Around on Wikipedia since 2011, their staggering number of 26,554 reviews over the past twelve months makes them, together with an additional total of 275,285 edits, one of Wikipedia's most prolific users.

Thanks are also extended for their work to JTtheOG (15,059 reviews), Boleyn (12,760 reviews), Cwmhiraeth (9,001 reviews), Semmendinger (8,440 reviews), PRehse (8,092 reviews), Arthistorian1977 (5,306 reviews), Abishe (4,153 reviews), Barkeep49 (4,016 reviews), and Elmidae (3,615 reviews).
Cwmhiraeth, Semmendinger, Barkeep49, and Elmidae have been New Page Reviewers for less than a year — Barkeep49 for only seven months, while Boleyn, with an edit count of 250,000 since she joined Wikipedia in 2008, has been a bastion of New Page Patrol for many years.

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #024, 26 Dec 2018

Last issue, I mentioned there would be a flood, and so, here it is...

Portals status

We now have 4,620 portals.

And the race to pass 5,000 by year's end is on...

Can we make it?

The New Year, and the 5,001st portal, await.

( New portals are created with {{subst:Basic portal start page}} or {{subst:bpsp}} )

Evad is back!

After disappearing in mid-thread, Evad37 has returned from a longer than expected wikibreak.

Be sure to welcome him back.

Improved cropping is coming to Portal image banner

User:FR30799386 is working on making {{Portal image banner}} even better by enabling it to chop the top off an image as well as the bottom.

Many pictures aren't suitable for banners because they are too tall. Therefor, User:FR30799386 added cropping to this template, so that an editor could specify part of a picture to be used rather than the whole thing.

Upgrade of flagship portals is underway

Work has begun on upgrading Wikipedia's flagship portals (those listed at the top of the Main page).

So far, Portal:Geography, Portal:History, and Portal:Technology have been revamped. Of course, you are welcome to improve them further.

Work continues on the other five. Feel free to join in on the fun.

Spotting missing portals that are redirects

In place of many missing portals, there is a redirect that leads to "the next best topic", such as a parent topic.

Most of these were created before we had the tools to easily create portals (they used to take 6 hours or more to create, because it was all done manually). Rather than leave a portal link red, some editors thought it was best that those titles led somewhere.

The subjects that have sufficient coverage should have their own portals rather than a redirect to some other subject.

Unfortunately, being blue like all other live links, redirects are harder to spot than redlinks.

To spot redirects easily, you can make them all appear green.

What's new in portal space?

Here are the new portals since the last issue:

Keep 'em coming!

And I'll see you next issue.

Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 08:15, 26 December 2018 (UTC)