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Police actions and Resolution 377

From the lead:

As a war undeclared by all participants, the conflict helped bring the term "police action" into common use. It also led to the permanent alteration of the balance of power within the United Nations, where Resolution 377—passed in 1950 to allow a bypassing of the Security Council if that body could not reach an agreement—led to the General Assembly displacing the Security Council as the primary organ of the UN.[1]

Firstly, I can't see any evidence that "police action" is in common use. Secondly, I can't find any evidence that Resolution 377 altered the balance of power in the UN. This might be one historian's view, but that's all. And the resolution isn't mentioned in the body of this article.--Jack Upland (talk) 06:43, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There being no response, I have removed this.--Jack Upland (talk) 22:13, 23 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Cornwell, RD (1980). World History of the Twentieth Century New Edition. London: Longman House. p. 540. ISBN 978-0582330757.

"Chinese Civil War (01945 - 01949)" (中 Civil War)

¿What does the following sentence aktually⁵ mean?

"As a token of gratitude, between 50,000 and 70,000 Korean veterans that served in the PLA were sent back along with their weapons, and they later played a significant role in the initial invasion of South Korea.[88]"

Specifikally⁵, what does it mean for 毛泽东 and 中 to "send back" (pp) Korean (Chosǒn) veterans to Chosǒn? The only way i kan process this is if they were 'kontraktually' enslaved to 毛泽东. Otherwise, they weren't 'sent back along with their weapons'; they returned home of their own akcord when their support of the civil war militarisms of 毛泽东 ended, while being gifted a rifle or without being required by law to return their rifles to the 中华人民共和国 Armory⁵.

Shouldn't this be, for example, relying on Imperial Standard English:

"As a token of gratitude, between 50,000 and 70,000 Korean veterans that served in the PLA were discharged with their service weapons, and they later played a significant role in the initial invasion of South Korea.[88]"

i wouldn't write it that way in Branch English. i'd propose something nearer to this:

"As a token of gratitude for kolaborating in ⦝enter total number here⦛ civilian and military murders in the civil war in 中, between 50,000 and 70,000 Korean veterans that served in the PLA were discharged with their murder tools, most typikally ⦨enter model here̚⦛ rifles, and they later played a significant role in the initial invasion of South Korea.[88]"

My belief is that this deskriptive mutual akcountability⁵ for murder under State sanktion would help achieve kalm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamtheclayman (talk • contribs) 17:42, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. The tone alone fails wp:npov.Slatersteven (talk) 17:44, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
However, I think this sentence needs clarification. The Korean veterans were always going to return. How was that a token of gratitude?--Jack Upland (talk) 21:54, 23 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

North Korean infiltration of refugees?

From Civilian deaths and massacres

In addition to conventional military operations, North Korean soldiers fought the UN forces by infiltrating guerrillas among refugees. These soldiers disguised as refugees would approach UN forces asking for food and help, then open fire and attack.

The citations in that section do not appear to justify the claim that such incidents actually happened outside the imagination of American commanders, yet it is stated as fact in the article. Zetaeta (talk) 12:39, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

True, none of those sources say that it actually happened. I will amend the text.--Jack Upland (talk) 22:09, 23 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Having examined the sources in question, I agree with Jack Upland. I would not have reverted his deletion if he had mentioned this thread in his original edit summary.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 00:41, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, sorry, I forgot the edit summary. I still think that the paragraph could do with some improvement.--Jack Upland (talk) 01:04, 24 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can we say the two countries are still at war in the main part of the infobox

Can we say the two countries are still at war in the main part of the infobox? We can swap the stuff in note c with the stuff in the infobox. Tigerdude9 (talk) 23:21, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As the article indicates, the Korean War is the historical event that ended with the Armistice agreement in 1953. The Korean Conflict is the ongoing state of tensions between the two Korean governments. Mediatech492 (talk) 00:19, 17 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Grammar in the comparison of forces section

The grammar in the comparison of forces section is not good and detracts from the clarity of the section. There are several uses of the conjunction "and" when it should be "but" as well as run-on sentence96.241.177.111 (talk) 20:59, 23 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. It could be better written.--Jack Upland (talk) 22:20, 23 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Treaty by the end of this year?

I can't find any source that says that was promised. The Panmunjom Declaration said they would work together this year to bring it about, but didn't set a deadline, as far as I can see. I have removed this from the lead.--Jack Upland (talk) 10:56, 25 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, thank you. --Daviddwd (talk) 14:21, 25 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 January 2019

Please change Commanders and leaders 

   First Republic of Korea Syngman Rhee
   First Republic of Korea Chung Il-kwon
   First Republic of Korea Paik Sun-yup
   First Republic of Korea Shin Sung-mo
   Harry S. Truman
   Douglas MacArthur
   Matthew Ridgway
   Mark Wayne Clark
   Clement Attlee
   Winston Churchill

   Kim Il-sung
   Pak Hon-yong
   Choi Yong-kun
   Kim Chaek †
   Mao Zedong
   Peng Dehuai
   Chen Geng
   Deng Hua
   Joseph Stalin  †
   Nikolai Bulganin

to 

  irst Republic of Korea Syngman Rhee †
   First Republic of Korea Chung Il-kwon †
   First Republic of Korea Paik Sun-yup 
   First Republic of Korea Shin Sung-mo †
   Harry S. Truman †
   Douglas MacArthur †
   Matthew Ridgway †
   Mark Wayne Clark †
   Clement Attlee †
   Winston Churchill †

   Kim Il-sung †
   Pak Hon-yong †
   Choi Yong-kun †
   Kim Chaek †
   Mao Zedong †
   Peng Dehuai †
   Chen Geng †
   Deng Hua †
   Joseph Stalin  †
   Nikolai Bulganin † 81.173.79.181 (talk) 09:04, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As I understand it the cross is only used if they died during the conflict.Slatersteven (talk) 10:32, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
To be accurate, it is not a cross. It is an Obelus, or Dagger icon. In this context it is used to indicate a death, however Wikipedia:Manual of Style seems to be unclear on whether or not it should be used for combat deaths only. Mediatech492 (talk) 13:49, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
If it denotes people who are now dead who once faught in a war that means a hell of a lot of articles are wrong (such as WW1 or WW2).Slatersteven (talk) 15:06, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Slatersteven, any other usage of the cross/Obelus would make it meaningless as most leaders in every conflict more than 40 years past are now dead. My understanding and approach has always been that it is only used to denote those leaders killed in the action described on the relevant page. Mztourist (talk) 06:53, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Lets not confuse the issue unnecessarily. The question was never about whether or not it was for people who are now dead. The question was whether or not it was appropriate for someone involved in the conflict who died in that time period, or was just for someone who died in combat in that conflict. Mediatech492 (talk) 14:06, 26 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree, that appears to be exactly what 81.173.79.181 is proposing. For example Syngman Rhee died in 1965, while Kim Il-Sung died in 1994. regards Mztourist (talk) 04:57, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Don't waste my time with rabbit trials. I couldn't care less about silly quibbles about Syngman Ree or Kim Il-Sung. The only issue that I'm concerned about is whether or not Stalin deserves an Obleus here. Thank you. Mediatech492 (talk) 05:59, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I think you're wasting time. Currently both Stalin and Kim Chaek have an obelus, but neither of them died in combat. The proposal here is to put an obelus against everyone who is dead.--Jack Upland (talk) 06:15, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
So (at the risk of repeating myself) does a non-combat death warrant an oblesus or not? Mediatech492 (talk) 06:36, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The symbol used is  † [KIA — Killed in Action]], so it isn't appropriate for Stalin. On the World War II page it is not used for Roosevelt, Hitler, or Mussolini.--Jack Upland (talk) 06:51, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Mediatech492 waste your time? "Rabbit Trials'? Try explaining your position clearly in future.Mztourist (talk) 12:01, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Mztourist My question has already been was asked and answered. Ask Jack Upland to explain it to you if your still confused. Thank you and have a good day. Mediatech492 (talk) 12:09, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I want to die

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