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Controversy

While I think there is a common consensus amongst most editors to keep this information, and that removing it would be considered whitewashing, I think a clear consensus should be defined to stop all the edit warring that is happening on this page. In my opinion, I think it is pretty important to mention the sexual assault allegations since they have affected his career (ie. Indian Idol) and not mentioning so would violate our WP:NPOV policy. I think they are given due weight in the article (maybe header could be changed) and it does not overpower the positive aspects of his career. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 04:20, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@HickoryOughtShirt?4: They're allegations. Serious negative BLP at that. It's not white-washing to remove unproven canards. Suggest opening discussion at BLPN-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 05:09, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I think the whole controversy section should be removed as it is against Neutral Point Of View(NPOV) Policy of Wikipedia. One can also add 'APPRECIATION' section and can appreciate him more than needed. Such kind of sections have been clearly added due to person hate, as far as it seems to me. Moreover, adding about the sexual allegation imposed on Anu Malik, which are just allegations and nothing have been proved so far neither the matter has been dragged to court, are completely unethical. An editor added a vague line that an Assistant Producer of Indian Idol said that producers were aware of his behaviour! If already a line about sexual allegation was added, was it necessary to be added? Hasn't it been added to spoil the subject's image? If so many unnecessary lines were added, then what was problem in my addition of Sonu Nigam's claim that he has seen from his eyes those SMS coming on Anu Malik's mobile? I had also provided a source for this!
I think such kind of defaming portions should not exist on Wikipedia page. nkupad talk
Ignoring controversies is anything BUT WP:NPOV by virtually anyones definition. The accusations of harrassement should be included as they have had a real impact on his career in that he left/was let go as a judge on Indian Idol. That's not something that can be ignored / whitewashed as Nkupad and friend have been trying to do for quite some time. I can see keeping only the first and last sentence of the current para - basically here's what happened and the result. Ravensfire (talk) 20:14, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As for removing the entire section as suggested by Nkupad, that would clearly not be appropriate or in line with NPOV; both paragraphs are well-sourced and relevant. I agree that removing everything between "[...] as a part of the Me Too movement in India." and "Following the public backlash [...]" would work, though, so as to avoid having too much detail there. --bonadea contributions talk 07:27, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What was the need to remove the sourced content stating Sameer Anjaan and Sonu Nigam have supported Anu Malik. Wasn't it an important fact? If unproved allegations don't violate any Wikipedia's policy, isn't it important to mention that Anu Malik was supported by some popular celebrities, who have been evidence of the act? The pair of Ravensfire and Bonadea is ready to listen to no one! nkupad User talk:Nkupad

The intent was to reduce the section to a bare minimum of information. If the accusations had no impact on Malik, that section shouldn't be in the article, but there was an impact on his life - being forced out as a judge. That's significant and needs to mentioned in the article with the minimum context as these are just accusations at this point. If we've going to start adding other people's views on the accusations, that's a dangerous road to go down and starts to push BLPPUBLIC boundaries. Yes, Malik has had supporters and if you note, that wasn't removed because of sourcing reasons. We can't include just views supporting Malik if there are also views that don't support him and have also gotten mention in WP:RS. Nobody has added his nephew pretty strong denouncement [1] and if all this section covers is minimal, it shouldn't. If it goes into more detail, then we have to follow all policies. I've rephrased what is there slightly to make his denial of the accusations more prominent.
Aside from wiping out the section completely (which isn't going to get much support), what are your suggestions that portray a balanced view of this matter? Ravensfire (talk) 18:48, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ravensfire, my suggestion is to also to mention the support of Sameer and Sonu Nigam to Anu Malik, in order to neutralize the article. That's all! Nkupad User talk:Nkupad

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