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When there is a reference to an article at the end of a sentence, our readers expect that article is a reliable source for the information in that sentence. But, for example, today I looked at the reference for a statement in our article that Sunrise "endorses nonviolent, community-based political action." The RS cited did not mention nonviolence, community-based action, etc. etc., let alone describe Sunrise Movement as endorsing them.

Our article also misstated a different reference, saying, "After taking control of the House of Representatives in the 2018 midterm elections, the Democrats failed to put climate change on their list of priorities." The source cited, published weeks before the 2018 elections, could hardly be RS for what Dems failed to do after winning control of the House. Instead, the article quoted careful statements by Democrats who were busy with the campaigning that won them control of the House. Furthermore, despite its pessimistic title, the article described a wide range of opinions among Democrats about legislative approaches to climate change.

This is an encyclopedia article which should be written in an NPOV way to give factual information about the Sunrise Movement. It should not be presenting Sunrise Movement talking points in the voice of Wikipedia, and it should certainly not be misrepresenting what reliable sources say. HouseOfChange (talk) 22:40, 27 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"The Sunrise Movement is closely allied with Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the Justice Democrats"

The lead paragraph summarizes important items that already are in the body of the article. Nothing close to this sentence appears elsewhere in the article, nor is any RS cited to support it. I am going to rewrite the lead paragraph to make it clearer, but this sentence needs to be explained and cited in the article body. Also, the word "allied" is unclear about what relationship is being claimed. HouseOfChange (talk) 17:32, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for Corrections/Additions

Thank you HouseOFChange for your help. My point in adding all of that was so that there would at least be something on the page, which was fairly blank before. However, you're right that I needed to be more careful with my use of tone and how I presented the Sunrise Movement's talking points. The page looks great now! EthanMagnuson (talk) 14:58, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]