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Ray's Rules

That is a nice list. Think it would be OK to make that into a projectspace page people can link to? 28bytes (talk) 14:19, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Might I suggest WP:RAYSRULES as a shortcut redirect either to that section on his talk page, or to a new subpage in his userspace? Seems a fitting tribute. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:24, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
"I want to share with you, something we found in his work desk that one of my sons had heard about--Ray's Rules. ... They are worth sharing and help explain his kind and generous nature"--I think that's your answer. Thanks y'all. Drmies (talk) 16:20, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Something to live by. Ever so proud to have another inspirational man on the Main page, and that he was just Mike for me, and I knew nothing about the story until I researched because I was sure he deserved an article ;) - Yoninah wrote most of it. - It was also nice to see the church that someone wanted deleted pictured ;) - I will give Ray's Rulez prominence in my edit notice in 2019, - new year's resolution. Haven't changed it in years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:36, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
I included them in my good wishes and resolutions for 2019. Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:50, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
pictured:


Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019 -

begin it with music and memories

Thank you for brightening many of my days last year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:22, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Now I also changed User talk:Gerda Arendt/Editnotice. I should read it myself often ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Please check out "Happy" once more, for his smile, and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Wikipedia, back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:23, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Lost content

Opéra Royal de Wallonie, mentioned in a BLP, was a sad stub. I suggested to my most prolific and cooperative French friend LouisAlain to expand, along with a request to create said BLP. He did. All could be fine. But somebody (even somebody whom I had sent Ray's Rules) not only noticed and warned that an attribution declaration was missing, but also deleted it all as a copyright violation. LouisAlain is usually meticulous about such tags, not only saying which article, but even which version by whom, see? In this one case of thousands he forgot. The result is sad for everybody involved, especially potential readers of the translation. Help, anybody? It needs an admin, or I'd restore it myself, attributed of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

 Done by talk page stalker. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:07, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
thank you for stalking, much appreciated ;) - please keep stalking LouisAlain also, who was recently templated with an overly sugared wording requesting references ;) - as if you could , when translating, translate more than there is. He had to face other questions regarding his skills, but is really the one I'd single out for super effecient, speedy, friendly help, consistently over six years. DYK that, thanks to him, all Bach cantatas have French articles? More than German that is. - Other question: the sugary template (Ways to improve ...), shouldn't it "notice" when it was applied to the same user on the same talk? Instead of presenting the same sugary nonsense again and again? If my math is right, 39 times here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:32, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
If you stalked LouisAlain, you saw that he was blocked by the same. Sigh. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
... which now is at ANI, and Martin is blocked for a month. My short version: Fram had an article on his watch list because it was deleted, LouisAlain re-created it, Fram found that a copyvio, and claimed that something in LouisAlain's sandbox was also a copyvio. While possibly correct in a strict sense, I know - and so am involved - that the sandbox was just for me, for my understanding of what 3 French texts mean, not supposed to go to any article. LouisAlain got blocked for 24 hours, possibly correct but I'd imagine better options. Martin re-created the article in other words, but not good enough for Fram, so he blocked Martin for a month. Better no comment. - This is what I come home to after vacation. Sad. During vacation, I had to deal with two articles of the recent deaths category, Wilma Lipp and Jean Guillou. Sad, sad. So finally, for a positive note: today I managed to present someone living on his 90th birthday, Werner Bardenhewer. If only he could get a talk with Fram. Ray's Rules seem not to be enough. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:37, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
SAD! See WP:CLAIM. MPS1992 (talk) 22:46, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
Hmm yes--wait, Martinevans123 blocked? Whoa. Drmies (talk) 02:57, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
January 2019
Caleta de Famara, Lanzarote
... with thanks from QAI
But Floq could have repeated the line above, "done by pagestalker", unblocked. Thanks to everybody who protects the content editors! It will take some courage to recreate the often-deleted article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:38, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Same editor blocked LouisAlain for one week for putting a translation in a new article to make it available for me. I didn't ask for a translation, only wanted to know one specific thing in a French interview. If translating, he should have sent it per email (and not even in his sandbox). I still hate people being blocked for trying to help me. Help?? - LouisAlain blocked for a week means c. 35 21 articles not created. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

nl

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:55, 20 February 2019 (UTC) The birth name of Leo Riemens (one created, thank goodness from the above) is given as four names, and the only spot I see them anywhere online (except Wikipedia mirrors) is here. What is this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:21, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Gerda Arendt, what is De Gids? I know it as a literary journal, but it mentions other arts as well. (Hard to believe it's still being published!) Or are you asking what that website is? DBNL=Digitale Bibliotheek van Nederlandse Letteren: it is an awesome resource that reproduces coverage of Dutch literature (and some arts as well). There's more on your man Riemens here, though it's not much more. Drmies (talk) 00:48, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, that helped. Imagine: I missed that dbnl is the National Library. The "more" is already in the article, in the authority control. I don't know why that section seems to be largely ignored. Everytime I am asked to reference published books I sigh and think: look there, libraries and WorldCat. LouisAlain created the article with 200+ links. I hope he'll return. Yesterday a DYK review informed me that he is blocked for copyright violation. That's what the block log says, sure. He's blocked because he tried to help me, and did it in a strange way. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:47, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Block is over. Sing praises ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:04, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Precious
Seven years!

Sing more praises

7 years precious. Remember our first encounter at DYK? He died. I find someone whose memory needs polishing almost on a daily basis. Ethel Ennis. I left Lagerfeld to others ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:55, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Thank you Gerda. Yes, I see that too. I now go through my book of poetry and find they're almost all dead. Well, Judith Herzberg is still alive--and her article certainly needs polishing. At least her father's article is in decent shape, with much help from Simon Adler. Drmies (talk) 15:09, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
    • Today I received the sad news that a very very very distant cousin died, a great man, will write an article, - should have done it sooner, of course. There's a good radio interview, - is there any chance to use that as a ref? - Stadlmair: I was present at an audition, and he told the one who wanted the job and had to play a piece sightreading and asked if with the repeats: You can repeat as often as you like, until you are "zufrieden". (The candidate played the repeats as Bach had prescribed.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:17, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

you are loved

I guess. Dlohcierekim (talk) 02:41, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

FYI

You might want to briefly lock this page as well. Several edit warriors cant seem to stop themselves at the moment. Just sayin'... - wolf 01:25, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, full protection would be best. Some people just can't help theirselves!! OK, just kidding. MPS1992 (talk) 01:32, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

hey buddy I can get you elected

(Personal attack removed) just above wanted to stop me making edits like this. Well I dunno. Maybe they are right? Maybe it's important to recognise all the people that wanted to have their picture taken, and this is an important encyclopedic thing? MPS1992 (talk) 01:39, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Actually I just read over all of the above, and I decided that it is all very boring and that Thewolfchild and I usually agree on everything. We both look after articles regarding military ships and many other similar institutions. The only things on which we disagree involve 88mm guns used by German army units in the 1940s, and on that subject we need to talk to you. Maybe. MPS1992 (talk) 02:48, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Wow... I saw a page being disrupted and suggested an admin lock the page. I didn't file a report at 3RRNB, I didn't even mention any editors by name. MPS1992, you only embarrass yourself with the bizarre rant and personal attack you've posted here. Yes... "get a grip" is sound advice. - wolf 00:41, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
You don't like nerf guns? You don't like dumplings? OK. MPS1992 (talk) 02:14, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Batsignal

I hate to come ping-begging, but it doesn't seem there's any admins watching RFPP right now. Could you please take a look at the anon IP at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources? Thanks. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 03:29, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Well that was easy. Why didn't you go adminshopping ten reverts ago? Seriously--leave that content be, find an admin to block or protect, and then revert. Now that history looks like a mess; actually it kind of looks like an invitation for trolls. Anyway, that disruptive fool is blocked. I don't see much in the history that would warrant semi-protection, but this is one of those pages that is likely to be edited (legitimately) only by regular editors. So if it happens again, let me know. Take care, Drmies (talk) 03:40, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
    • Yeah, I only went to RFPP as a backup to ANEW because nobody was watching ANEW... welp, that didn't work either. Thanks. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 03:43, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
      • It's really not a case for ANEW. It's just someone edit warring in a way that's not legitimate. If you and I edit war over some content, that's one thing, but if you revert some unknown person who dives basically in the archives to fuck up some consensus, that simply warrants an immediate block. For that kind of thing you can always call on me or whoever else is active (check Recent changes). Drmies (talk) 03:45, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Does this look like some kind of LTA?

Hi Drmies, sorry to bother -- just wanted to ask since you seem to be familiar with the going-ons around the 'Pedia -- does this look like some kind of LTA to you? Aoi (青い) (talk) 03:14, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

I was origionally Frogger 48, I want to start off fresh from my past mistakes.

ABCD5798 (talk) 05:08, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Answer

because the section of main characters goes first those that appear in the opening credits section and those that are in the section "also starring" go down do not you think is better? Tia Canita (talk).

  • I think I know what you are saying, and I think that's fine, but if you don't write this up in edit summaries (that other editors understand) you should not be surprised to be reverted, Tia Canita. I noticed that in all your years here you have never left an edit summary or edited a talk page... Drmies (talk) 18:29, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

I have to ask…

—Qui demande?!

What's the story behind your IKEA userbox? Gaelan 💬✏️ 18:03, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

@Gaelan: It refers somewhat sardonically to this news event, per standing with France. Or Drmies may just like hunting out meatballs in a beach-toned plywood labyrinth  :) ——SerialNumber54129 18:16, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
@Serial Number 54129: Thanks, that's pretty funny. Gaelan 💬✏️ 18:22, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
SerialNumber, a little birdie told me you have a beard. Is this true? Drmies (talk) 18:28, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
Only in a certain light. ——SerialNumber54129 18:48, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Shabir Ally

Dear Drmies, Regarding Shabir Ally's latest undo, have you had a look at the edit. It's all citations. Also, it's being debated at the talk page where I'd be happy to read your opinion regarding the matter. Thanks! Ahmed M Farrag (talk) 18:13, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

I've also just seen the conflict of interest template. I do not work for Shabir Ally, nor have I ever seen him in real life. My sole communication with him was an exchange of email asking him to upload his photo to commons, which he replied to with his photo and his permission to upload it there. I only work on Arabic Wikipedia and rarely do I contribute to other wikis when I find the need for it. This very edit you rolled back is from a contribution to arwiki that I thought enwiki could benefit from. And I still would like for you to contribute your opinion to the talk page under RfC. Ahmed M Farrag (talk) 18:36, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Well, talk page it is then. But that COI template, I placed that because your edits seem consistent with someone who has a conflict of interest. Arwiki may allow a list of YouTube videos with links, but we do not. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 20:46, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Making another mistake

So I'm going to foolishly ask for help. I'm just not understanding what I've done at this ARE [[1]]. I mean I do understand that at the Glock article it looks like I've moved a goal post but I feel like what I'm trying to do is further refine my objections. Even if I still don't agree is that really STONEWALLing if I don't revert the change? I don't feel that Dlthewave's behavior was beyond reproach but I also don't want to throw them under the bus as I think they are acting in good faith. Can you help me understand what I did wrong before I get a warning for it? Oh, and look at the article the IP sock dropped off. I think it makes a much more compelling case for inclusion since it talks about how Glock changed the market and upped the effective firepower in the process. Thanks and I promise to foolishly agree with you about something at some point! Springee (talk) 20:06, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Springee, I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. Do you mean to say you can't really be stonewalling since you didn't revert the change? I have to tell you, in all honesty, that I am much less knowledgeable of that particular discussion than maybe I should be, and I am sure you saw that my comments in general have been limited. I'm looking over the report again--I don't know of "rambling walls of text" that you wrote but I haven't looked. If indeed there are such rambling walls, that can of course be regarded as evidence of stonewalling, and it has been in the past. I also am not sure that "external sources about Glock that make that association" is such a terrible thing (mind you, "external" isn't the best term to use--stick with "reliable secondary sources") to ask for. But the part that discusses what they see as your "double standard"--if that is true, or found to be true by the admins looking at it, yeah that would be uncool and could lead to a topic ban.

    Again, I'm speaking somewhat generally, without knowing all the particulars, but I'll look at the whole report again, and the responses, I promise. Can't look at that article right now though I might later. (In general, I'll say that I always think that encyclopedic articles should try to take a wider view--not just list physical properties and sales numbers and stuff like that, but also what such things mean. See Key Largo woodrat. Obviously there's Glock and "Glock"--"Glock" stands for a lot of things that other manufacturers don't get. I mean, otherwise we wouldn't have "you ever heard the Glock go click like a camera"?) Drmies (talk) 02:15, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

For what it's worth I find K.e.coffman's reply to your ARE comment very frustration. On my talk page the editor said they didn't replay to my concerns regarding their earlier comments due to length yet they did have space to add an accusation that isn't related to the behavior in question and leaves out a lot of context. K.e.coffman and I have previously disagreed on what is and isn't DUE but I would assume that is ok so long as it is civil. The complaint at hand seemed to be that moving goal posts was a disingenuous form of debate not that we didn't agree on weight in a given context. Moving goals wasn't my intention in this case and I will certainly be more self a aware in the future but I'm not sure it's fair to just say I don't understand weight because they don't agree with me. Sorry, this is a frustrating process. Springee (talk) 06:04, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-related concern: Part of the discussion at the ARE has involved editors who have opposed inclusion of criminal content adopting a battleground attitude. Suggestions that one side has an agenda to push such content into articles doesn't promote collaborative editing. However, I'm concerned the same editors who push (not PUSH) for inclusion are also removing large swaths of non-controversial, technical content from firearms articles. [[2]]], [[3]], [[4]], [[5]]. I'm trying to raise the issue in a civil fashion here but I'm my audience isn't sympathetic. I understand that the content is unsourced, likely added by well meaning IP editors who weren't familiar with WP:V. However, these are also uncontroversial claims and it seems it would be better for the encyclopedia if they were tagged so they could be corrected instead of just removed. I think it undermines the view that the censorship of information is one sided and certainly adds fuel to the view that some editors have an agenda to turn articles about firearms into articles about the crimes committed and not about the device itself. I also currently feel a bit trapped because, if I object to stridently or decide to run around and fix all the recently edited articles, well that supports the "partisan agenda" view that MastCell was talking about. I certainly think it's hypocritical to push for one type of content yet actively try to strip away a different kind. Anyway, looking for your thoughts here. Thanks again. Springee (talk) 00:12, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

And a related question: Is it possible to protest a warning? [[6]]. I'm being warned not to do things I wasn't accused of doing. At no point was it suggested that I made POLMIC statement or vilified other groups of editors. Springee (talk) 11:18, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Springee, I'm sorry, but I don't quite understand. Sandstein made a ruling in the case and decided...well, you saw how they decided, and I think that the other two certainly should be grateful that it was a mild warning. From a quick look, it seems to me that Sandstein considered POLEMIC to be an appropriate guideline to cover all, most, or the most important aspect of the behavior. Obviously I can't speak for Sandstein. Moreover, you should not just be looking at the original post, but also at the comments offered by others, and by admins in the "Result" section. Sure, you can appeal this, but my guess is your appeal will be dismissed very quickly. Now, at the risk of sounding patronizing (and realistic), I think your best option is to accept the verdict and see if you can learn from it. Trying to explain the finding/result away by saying "this wasn't what the dude said we did" sounds a bit like moving the goal post, as if what the commenting admins concluded isn't valid cause it isn't literally what Dlthewave (is that their name?) said. No appeals court will look kindly on that. Good luck, Drmies (talk) 16:35, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the feedback and thoughts. It looks like things have been resolved and I won't need to appeal. I'm still going to be more conscious regarding making making arguments that might be seen as a double standard at a later date. Thanks again Springee (talk) 23:19, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

A new batch for R/D

Hello again D. The edits by this IP 2600:1001:B100:E15F:88DC:8185:F495:2E59 (talk · contribs) need R/D like those in the past. My thanks to you or whichever of your talk page watchers get them first. This macabre comic strip brought to mind the nerfgun comments from last week :-) Enjoy your week. MarnetteD|Talk 20:52, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Looks like 49TL zapped them while I was typing this. Good work. MarnetteD|Talk 20:53, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks MarnetteD. 49TL is on the ball. Liam got his new Nerf gun today but made a serious mistake--he got one of the Elites, sniper model, but single shot. Everyone knows that if you're going Elite you need to get the Nerf N-Strike Elite Strongarm Blaster; plus "sniping" just doensn't work a. with the little Elite bullets b. with something that shoots a foam dart twenty feet if you're lucky. My wife is getting a bit overwhelmed with all the Nerfing, and what she doesn't know is I'm getting a Nerf N-Strike Elite Mega CycloneShock Blaster, which I will keep hidden in this kitchen drawer until I have a need for it. BOOM. And then five more BOOMs. Drmies (talk) 00:24, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Oh, it was that swine again. You'd think that by now the WMF would have a list of editors who should not be allowed here, and their IPs and MOs, and would have made some of their lawyers make a quick call to some ISP, for instance. Or local police. Drmies (talk) 00:26, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Christ Almighty. Well, I know when I need a firearms expert, or at least an expert in Nerf Blasters and Red Ryders, I now know who to ask. Softlavender (talk) 00:51, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Got a Red Ryder for my birthday, last year. It has proven very effective. Drmies (talk) 01:42, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

IP User 68.197.237.168

I've noticed you sent a message to that guy. I've had trouble with this person before, he wouldn't stop bragging that all non-IP users (Especially targeting Admins) are idiots and jerks. He is also an IP Hopper, as he once vandalised my talk page when I called him out. Watch out for him! Luigitehplumber (talk) 19:44, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

I don't know why he acts so mean to anyone on Wikipedia apart from non-registered users. As you saw, he's very racist and he acts very edgy. When his ban expires in 3 months or so, i'll suspect he'll go back to being rude and edgy. By the way, I think I found another IP address user that might possibly be him, as he/she told a user to "Suck my D***" on the Zoey 101 page. Luigitehplumber (talk) 22:14, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
Welp, he came back to insult me with the same lame stuff he always says by block evading. He got blocked again. Luigitehplumber (talk) 00:25, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

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Catalogue of Women Featured Article

Hi Drmies, it's been a while. I hope all's well. I as browsing through today and corrected some template errors in Catalogue of Women ... then I nominated it for Featured Article. I'm thinking I'll get back to editing a bit to get my mind off work ...  davidiad { t } 05:25, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

The naughty words guy is back again

Hi, you might want to take a look at Special:Contributions/75.170.5.193 and block. I see that you've blocked them before (from this IP address and several other accounts and IPs) and they're back again making their normal edit requests related to "naughty words". It looks like they didn't follow the advice you gave them to find a different hobby, unfortunately but not surprisingly. A long block would probably be best, considering they started editing again less than two hours after their previous 1-month block expired, but I'll leave that up to you. Many thanks, --SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 02:47, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Loyola Jesuit College; advice needed

I am starting to loose my cool over Loyola Jesuit College. To my opinion, somebody is using that article for promotion and to draw in new students (see User_talk:The_Banner#LJC). At the same time, he makes clear that he has absolutely no clue what he is doing. Like adding test and competition results to the lead because he failed to notice that it was moved to the end of the article. And restoring info about a singer/plan crash survivor while the article is about the school.

Except stepping back and cool down, do you have any advice to proceed? Maybe send in some experts? The Banner talk 13:50, 26 February 2019 (UTC) Stepping back will happen anyway, as I am moving house soon. No clue how quick my provider will be with moving my internet connection.

(talk page watcher) @The Banner: First things first, he should have been advised re. edit-warring:  Done Now we wait. Enjoy your trip to the pool-side bar  ;) ——SerialNumber54129 14:09, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
I was too far down the line to think of that. The Banner talk 15:29, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
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