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Is it necessary for an endorsement to be accepted for it to be notable?
Specifically regarding Richard B. Spencer. If the Yang campaign denounces him or otherwise refuses to accept his endorsement, should it be included here on a list of endorsers?
As a secondary point, while the Twitter account @RichardBSpencer is not verified, there's mainstream media coverage of it being his account [1]. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:35, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
- We've already had a similar situation with Tulsi Gabbard and David Duke - [2]. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:37, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
- Actually, Duke denied that it was an endorsement, so it's not a parallel situation. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:43, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
- Power~enwiki, Perhaps we should just be sure to note when endorsements are not accepted. I'd say both the endorsement and the denouncement are noteworthy. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:37, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
- OK. I'm using my WP:CRYSTAL ball here quite a bit, secondary coverage will likely exist soon but is currently absent. The primary source (Spencer's Twitter feed) is fairly clear here, and we've got quite a few reversions of this material. Based on the edit history, I think there is consensus to leave this material here until secondary sources come out. power~enwiki (π, ν) 19:43, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Miserlou: do you have any comments on this discussion? power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:39, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- I think we should remove anything that a) is Tweeted by the candidate b) isn't an explicit endorsement (ex, "random" people on Twitter showing interest or support). One person showing support or interest isn't an endorsement, I think it should be when a notable figure or leader is explicitly encouraging _others_ to support the candidate. It seems like gatekeeping a little bit, but I don't see how a DJ's random tweet is relevant in an encyclopedia. In an age when everybody on Earth is Twitter-famous, where is the line drawn? Miserlou (talk) 19:59, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- I also think that Richard Spencer's should be removed, as he is a professional troll. Why would a white supremacist endorse an Asian American candidate other than to create attention for himself? Miserlou (talk) 20:00, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- Spencer's a white nationalist, not a white supremacist, and there's no contradiction at all in him supporting Yang, whose economically populist policies will be friendlier to non-millionaires, whether white or non-white, than those of the Republicans. 2601:282:1180:1209:4953:37D6:F817:FD1D (talk) 22:02, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
- It's also quite possible that he simply doesn't have any endorsements at all yet and the section should be removed entirely. A donation is not an endorsement, so even the tech figures listed on his website should probably be removed as well, as I bet those were just rich people who happened to be at a fund raiser and gave the amount for the plate. It's not the same as an endorsement, which are exclusive by definition. Donations aren't, and it's very common to donate to multiple candidates. Miserlou (talk) 20:04, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- I also think that Richard Spencer's should be removed, as he is a professional troll. Why would a white supremacist endorse an Asian American candidate other than to create attention for himself? Miserlou (talk) 20:00, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- I think we should remove anything that a) is Tweeted by the candidate b) isn't an explicit endorsement (ex, "random" people on Twitter showing interest or support). One person showing support or interest isn't an endorsement, I think it should be when a notable figure or leader is explicitly encouraging _others_ to support the candidate. It seems like gatekeeping a little bit, but I don't see how a DJ's random tweet is relevant in an encyclopedia. In an age when everybody on Earth is Twitter-famous, where is the line drawn? Miserlou (talk) 19:59, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- New article from The Verge on the Meme Wars: [3]. power~enwiki (π, ν) 15:33, 9 March 2019 (UTC)