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Reference needed for statement on number of hours

There is a paragraph in section "Education" on the number of hours needed to learn Esperanto:

The Institute of Cybernetic Pedagogy at Paderborn (Germany) has compared the length of study time...

I think this paragraph needs a proper source. In the current version, [66] is cited, but this is not the original source. It cites another publication (Flochon, 2000) which is also not the original source, but refers to something done by the "Institut de pédagogie cybernétique". Actually, such an institute does not exist (anymore?), but there was a department for "Bildungskybernetik", which was part of the "Institut für Kybernetik" in Paderborn. This department was headed by Helmar Frank, a German scientist who studied, amongst others, the advantage of Esperanto for language learning.

It would be great to find the original source of the above statement about the number of hours, otherwise it would be just hearsay. Similar statements also appear in other publications (all giving Helmar Frank as source), sometimes with deviating numbers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trastuv (talk • contribs) 17:03, 2 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

English as a secondary universal language

English is now the de facto universal second language. Doesn't this fact make Esperanto obsolete, since the goal of the creator has already been accomplished with English? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1004:B050:E64B:9CA9:1E87:1EB1:C8F5 (talk) 23:47, 11 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not if the goal is a common second language that is easy to learn. —Tamfang (talk) 18:16, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That may well be your point of view, and you wouldn't be the only one to hold it - but others would disagree. This is not the place for that discussion. Kahastok talk 19:38, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Simple phrases

A little while ago I added En ordo alongside Bone as a translation of English "All right" and "Okay". Though En ordo and Bone are not synonymous in Esperanto, like "All right" and "Okay" in English, they can both be used in several ways:

As an answer to a question such as "How are you doing?" / Kiel vi fartas? or "How did your meeting go?" / Kia via kunsido sukcesis?
As consent to a command such as "Get that done by five o'clock" / Finu tion antaŭ la kvina or "Please wash the dishes" / Bonvolu lavi la pladojn
As a reply, indicating satisfaction, to a statement such as "I've patched that hole in the fence" / Mi riparis tiun truo tra la barilo or "I'll put it on the calendar" / Mi skribos ĝin en la kalendaron

Since "All right" and "Okay" are in adjacent rows and have the same content in their Esperanto and IPA columns, I've combined them by making those cells two rows high.

--Thnidu (talk) 18:43, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Esperanto is the second language of Republic of Molossia which is a micro nation. Please could you mention it in template or in the text.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170706103815/http://www.molossia.org/esperanto.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4665236/Micronation-Molossia.htmlStruck edit request by sock of blocked user:Shingling334. IamNotU (talk) 00:03, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how that would improve our readers' understanding of Esperanto. It belongs in the article on Molossia (and indeed is already mentioned there). The website of Molossia is not a reliable secondary source, and the Daily Mail is, well, the Daily Mail. Huon (talk) 01:46, 8 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]