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Star Name

I wonder if this information can be included in Wikipedia: There is a bright star named after Belinda Emmett: The HR3821 Carinae. Source: http://www.mso.anu.edu.au/info/adopt/adopt-cap.php More infos about the star: http://www.alcyone.de/SIT/bsc/HR3821.html

Bone/breast cancer

Belinda Emmett had breast cancer, which spread to her bone. The breast cancer was never cured. She never had bone cancer. She had breast cancer that spread to her bones. Could we please stop edit-warring? - (Doctor) Richard Cavell

We need to base it on reliable sources. We can't just write anything and then say "trust me - it's correct". The best we have so far says she was successfull treated for breast cancer about 6 years ago, then 2001 she was diagnosed with "secondary breast cancer". Does this not suggest that it is cancer resulting from the earlier? There is not one source (so far) that we have seen that says she actually died from breast cancer. If there are conflicting sources then it is OK to point out that sources conflict. Wikipedia can only report on the hard facts as we know them - the facts are not that she died from breast or bone cancer - the facts are that source ??? reported she died from breast cancer.
I don't know on what basis you are saying she died from breast cancer, you need to provide a source. --Merbabu 02:25, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not about to hunt through media sources to find a journalist who got it right. The question of whether she died from breast or bone cancer is a medical one, and not one that the media will get correct. Her breast cancer was never cured. Current medical style is to say that cancer is 'in remission' rather than 'cured' for precisely this reason. - Richardcavell 02:43, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, feel free to edit in changes if they are verifiable and reasonable and if you feel it adds value. And as I said, for me the word "secondary" implied at least a link to the first illness in 98). My only concern was that we should always be wary of "trust me i've heard/read/know it", etc. Cheers and happy editing. --Merbabu 02:46, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Reports from News Limited, have her cause of death as Bone Cancer, nothing about it being related to her earlier Breast Cancer, that I saw ~shrug~--Gbanderson 06:24, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You dont normally die from breast cancer. Rather, its the movement of the original cancererous cells to other vital organs, in this case the bone marrow (which produce immune and respiratory cells, that are essential for life) The destruction of this tissue would have led to her death. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.173.198.208 (talkcontribs)

Quotes

Why do we need four quotes from politicians in the Death section? Wouldn't one be enough? I don't think they belong there in the first place, they're only there because people have been reading them on the net today. There don't need to be more quotes than information in the section. 220.236.75.51 06:41, 11 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think any tributes from politicians are needed right now; if only one side of the government was represented in the quotes section, it's a form of bias (however subtle).
WP:POV says it all. However, to cite both Howard and Beazley or to just cite Howard would be acceptable. The reason for this is that Howard is the Prime Minister and he (in the general sense) is deemed to be the person running the country (and Beazley is certainly not, and will likely, never run the country). Personally, I'd either include Howard's or both. I wouldn't remove both, but if you must remove any for the sake of space (though this isn't a very long article, so removing, in my opinion, would be a little silly) I would only suggest removing Beazley's comments.
All of that said, each person has brought different things to the table, and I think both should stay as both represents different (and both completely valid) points to be mentioned on the page.
--lincalinca 10:01, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cremation

Media reports are saying that after Belinda Emmett's funeral, she will be privately cremated. Can't remember what media outlet it was, but it is definately online 124.254.96.238 05:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

wrong photo

I don't know how to edit all this, but the photo showing tonight (Nov 17th, the day of Belinda's funeral)ISN'T of Belinda.

Jim


vandalism

Someone has vandalised this page under the section of death. Please go back to history to revert the vandalism if someone can.