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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 23:26, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Bernadette P. McPherson

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Believe this should have been speedy deleted since a large portion of the article was copied from [1], but was declined. However, the article still does not meet notability standards of WP:POLITICIAN, simply being a small town mayor or county freeholder does not get you past notability requirements. Rusf10 (talk) 03:09, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Clearly fails WP:NPOL. Best, GPL93 (talk) 12:34, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The county level of political office does not confer an automatic free pass over WP:NPOL — a county freeholder might clear NPOL #2 if they can be referenced to enough reliable source coverage to make them a special case of significantly greater notability than most other county councillors, but a county councillor does not get an automatic inclusion freebie just because her existence is technically verified by a "staff" profile on the council's own self-published website about itself. This is referenced entirely to primary sources, not to any evidence of notability-supporting media coverage, and is at least partially a direct cut-paste copyvio of one of those primary sources anyway — all of which means that nothing here is evidence of notability at all. Bearcat (talk) 14:24, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Goodness knows why this was relisted for a second time, as by then consensus was clear. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 12:32, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Charles G. Hall

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Not notable and poorly sourced. Being nominated for a Pulitzer prize does not make you notable, winning it does. Rusf10 (talk) 01:29, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - most longtime and award winning journalists are encyclopedic. This article passes WP:CCPOL and is, in my opinion, encyclopedic. Smmurphy^(Talk) 15:36, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. This person does not meet the notability criteria outlined at WP:CREATIVE, so this article should be deleted. Qono (talk) 20:50, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Hall received the award, television photographer of the year for the central region, by the NPPA among other awards which seems to satisfy #1 and #4, no? Smmurphy^(Talk) 21:54, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - No. The policy says "widely cited" and "significant critical attention". This award does not satisfy either criteria. Qono (talk) 23:47, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
delete I don't believe the awards he received show automatic notability and I'm not seeing coverage that meets the GNG (in my opinion).Sandals1 (talk) 14:52, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Regarding the extensiveness of coverage - the vast majority of newspapers.com articles on searches of "Pat Hall" focusing on the states he worked during his career are about him or his work, such as the 115 results searching Wyoming between 1961 and 1976"pat+hall"&dr_year=1961-1976&offset=22&p_place=WY. Many of these hits are about his reportage, although none of the magazines he worked at in Wyoming are indexed during that period. During the period 1972-1976 he was primarily not working as a journalist, but as a director of bicentennial celebrations in the Midwest/Mountain West. Here are 83 hits from Wyoming during that period, mostly about that work [2]. A large number of those 83 articles are not merely quotes of Hall, but are discussions of his operations and activities. Smmurphy^(Talk) 15:38, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete not WP:GNG Lubbad85 (☎) 17:20, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- @Lubbad85: In what sense is it "not GNG". It is sourced to a dozen RS over 50 years about the subject and his accomplishments. Sorry to ask but I'm genuinely curious. Smmurphy^(Talk) 12:14, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - Since this was relisted, I'm adding it to the history discussions list as his role in bicentenial celebrations (as regional commission chair and state committee director) might be of interest there. Smmurphy^(Talk) 16:53, 20 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 23:25, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

N. Leonard Smith

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Local politician, unsuccessful senate candidate, does not meet WP:POLITICIAN. Rusf10 (talk) 01:01, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Neither being a third party candidate in an election nor being a county-level legislator passes WP:NPOL. Best, GPL93 (talk) 12:24, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete a non-notable candidate.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:58, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Neither holding local political office nor being an unsuccessful candidate for higher office constitutes a guaranteed inclusion freebie on Wikipedia, but the article is referenced nowhere close to well enough to get him over the bar. To be considered notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia, a person at these levels of political significance would have to either (a) have preexisting notability for other reasons that would already have gotten him an article anyway (e.g. clearing our inclusion criteria in another field of endeavour), or (b) be referenceable to a depth and range and volume of coverage that expanded significantly beyond what's merely expected to exist for all county councillors and all unsuccessful congressional candidates. That's not what these references show, however: four of the five footnotes are primary sources that do not constitute support for notability at all, and the only one that's actual media coverage is a routine obituary in a small community weekly — which is not enough coverage to get somebody over WP:GNG all by itself if he has no notability claims that would pass any SNGs. Bearcat (talk) 14:39, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 23:24, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Tracy Silna Zur

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County politician, does not meet notability requirements of WP:POLITICIAN Rusf10 (talk) 00:58, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Doesn't pass WP:NPOL, she was a potential congressional candidate (still not enough to pass) in 2013. Best, GPL93 (talk) 12:26, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete another non-notable county level New Jersey politician.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:01, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was speedy delete per G7. (non-admin closure) Sheldybett (talk) 07:17, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Rachel Hart

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I came to this article via Coin. Appears to be a promotional effort for an Australian Media producer. Once I trimmed a dozen or so references that had links straight back to the article subject, there was not much left. GNG fail. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 00:50, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be the strong odor of undisclosed promotional editing as well, as is evidenced by the placement of a speedy tag by the article author, the author's contribs list, and the requests to save it via draftify. Maybe some highly skilled admin can figure out what is gong on here. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:33, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. You can remove, but please draftify for the meantime. Thank you ThatMontrealIP. --Media Edit NZ (talk) 00:57, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
New Zealand. Not Australian. Again, can you please draftify the aritle please. This is just going around in loops. And I can look at trying to get it reviewed at a later time. Thanks --Media Edit NZ (talk) 01:10, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete not only is this obvious WP:UPE but I can't find any indication the subject is notable. Praxidicae (talk) 01:15, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Yes, I agree. I was almost swayed by their Promise that it is not UPE, but have come around. I appreciate anyone who wants to look at their other contribs. See also the connected article Alex Breingan, which I just AFD'd. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 04:27, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. — JJMC89 (T·C) 23:23, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dave Schulz (musician)

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Pretty much a promo for a random musician. Written like a resume. Not a single secondary source. Hydromania (talk) 00:22, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete under G12 - it's a straight WP:COPYVIO of the biography on Schultz's own website [3]. Richard3120 (talk) 12:22, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
delete Promotional and WP:COPYVIO for it's cut and paste content from his website. However, looking over the press section of his website, he may genuinely qualify for notability per RS coverage (Keyboard magazine, Playboy.com, etc), but the article needs recreated and resubmitted per wiki standards. ShelbyMarion (talk) 14:37, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Purely WP:COPYVIO. 111.68.115.165 (talk) 05:49, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No evidence of notabillity and per WP:PROMO. SSSB (talk) 14:55, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Non notable musician, WP:COPYVIO and purely promotional. Ceethekreator (talk) 20:28, 11 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as copyvio, added G12, suggest start again at afc basing the content on independent reliable sources Atlantic306 (talk) 22:08, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was no consensus. This has already been relisted twice and had no further discussion. There's no clear consensus and unfortunately this would be considered a disputed PROD, hence the closure as No Consensus. (non-admin closure) Dusti ^{*Let's talk!*} 02:33, 27 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Saranya Bhagyaraj

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Actress with little notability. She only seems to have done 2 films so far (I can't find any others that she has been in), as well as a not inherited issue. Wgolf (talk) 00:12, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete not enough significant roles for notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:01, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The formerly unreleased film has now been released. https://www.cinemaexpress.com/stories/news/2019/mar/19/horror-film-gets-a-release-after-12-years-10616.html I think her multiple roles are enough to establish notability. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:33, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Draft as may become notable after the film mentioned above is released, its planned for release later this year and the actress has a leading role but given the previous 12 year delay I don't think its release can be taken for granted so drafting is an option I think is appropriate Atlantic306 (talk) 22:52, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Sandstein 07:01, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Documentary for the Recently Deceased

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Minimally sourced article about a film which was still only in the crowdfunding phase as of the last time any source (reliable or otherwise) actually wrote about it. As always, every film that enters the production pipeline does not automatically get an article as soon as just one or two sources verify that the film is planned: most films aren't eligible for articles until we can at least source a confirmed release date, and only select high-profile projects that get a lot more coverage than the norm actually get to have articles any earlier than that, and that's especially true as long as you have to rely entirely on blogs to actually have any sources at all. Bearcat (talk) 00:11, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete/draftity. WP:TOOSOON. Might be best to draftify this, so the creator can restore this after the film is released if it wins awards/gets more coverage. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:26, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete/draftify. I was going to argue that there's enough coverage to mention this on the other media section for the article on the film itself, however I have two arguments against this. The first is that there's no coverage beyond announcements that funding campaigns were launched. There was some light coverage in 2017 when the first one was launched and some other light coverage when the Kickstarter campaign was launched about a year later to fund more interviews. The second is that the Kickstarter campaign was unsuccessful and they failed to meet their goal, so they didn't get their money. This means that any progress that is being made on the movie will either be halted or slowed dramatically, which will result in it being a very long time before it's completed and released. This in turn means that the documentary's progress will be unlikely to receive coverage in the media. I'm aware that they've started filming, but the coverage just isn't heavy enough to really justify an article at this point in time or really a mention on the main article. I think turning this into a draft is the right option here. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 00:21, 6 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify per above. At this stage there simply isn't enough evidence to suggest it is sufficently notable for an article. If it becomes notable later it can be recreated. SSSB (talk) 14:51, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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