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Change of date of death

Victor Jara was seen in life September 15 and was found dead September 16, which I believe should therefore be counted as date of death. Md2perpe (talk) 19:25, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Other artists

Victor Jara should be better related to the Parra family.See The link to Scandinavia is through Arja Saijonmaa who made a famous recording of Vileto Parra: Gracias a la vida. She was elected representative to the Swedish Parliament, and sung this in Jacob Palme's funeral. But her flat-mate for many years was a Norwegian published, that put her in touch with the Lillebjørn Nilsen and other Scandinavian artists. Sweden and Scandinavia received very many refugees from Chile, providing her with talented musicians. Arja Saijonmaa should be included in the references, but I do not know how! KHF — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khflottorp (talk • contribs) 10:23, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Songs about Victor Jara

I've noticed that the list of songs about Victor Jara is not the same in English and in French. I can mention Jean-Francois Lessard, a singer from Canada (Quebec Province) who have a song named Victor (see iTunes). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.23.15.42 (talk) 01:30, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The american folk (punk) musician, Ryan Harvey, has a song called 'La Pena' from the album 'BlowBack' is about Victor Jara[1]. Also, the swedish punk band Lycka Till has a song called 'Listening to Victor Jara.[2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.82.29.60 (talk) 00:08, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://www.riotfolk.org/?m=ryanharvey&p=music
  2. ^ http://lyckatill.bandcamp.com/album/lycka-till

US backed coup.

staged a coup with the help of the U.S. through the Chilean military. This is incorrect and should be removed. Read U.S._intervention_in_Chile#1973_coup and here 1973 Chilean coup d'état, these contradict Hitchen's and are well sourced and well written pages. There is no proof the US directly helped in the coup. 89.168.113.120 (talk) 09:27, 18 February 2jnhdfvhjbfhycvfrbrbfv vg v vg The Trial of Henry Kissinger may be a reliable source on Kissinger but it is probably not regarding the Chilean coup. 89.168.113.120 (talk) 10:30, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You claiming that it's incorrect does not make it incorrect. If you want to challenge what a source says, you're in your full right to do at this talk page. However, you have not "clearly shown" anything, you have quite simply removed sourced content [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=V%C3%ADctor_Jara&diff=prev&oldid=5387952rough the Chilean military. This is incorrect and should be removed. Read [[U.S._intervention_in_ChS backed coup. ==

staged a coup with the help of the U.S. through the Chilean military. This is incorrect and should be removed. Read U.S._intervention_in_Chile#1973_coup and here 1973 Chilean coup d'état, these contradict Hitchen's and are well sourced and well written pages. There is no proof the US directly helped in the coup. 89.168.113.120 (talk) 09:27, 18 February 2jnhdfvhjbfhycvfrbrbfv vg v vg The Trial of Henry Kissinger may be a reliable source on Kissinger but it is probably not regarding the Chilean coup. 89.168.113.120 (talk) 10:30, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You claiming that it's incorrect does not make it incorrect. If you want to challenge what a source says, you're in your full right to do at this talk page. However, you have not "clearly shown" anything, you have quite simply removed sourced content [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=V%C3%ADctor_Jara&diff=prev&oldid=5387952rough the Chilean military. This is incorrect and should be removed. Read U.S._intervention_in_Chile#1973_coup and here 1973 Chilean coup d'état, these contradict Hitchen's and are well sourced and well written pages. There is no proof the US directly helped in the coup. 89.168.113.120 (talk) 09:27, 18 February 2jnhdfvhjbfhycvfrbrbfv vg v vg

The Trial of Henry Kissinger may be a reliable source on Kissinger but it is probably not regarding the Chilean coup. 89.168.113.120 (talk) 10:30, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You claiming that it's incorrect does not make it incorrect. If you want to challenge what a source says, you're in your full right to do at 19], [1].Jeppiz (talk) 10:59, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Read U.S._intervention_in_Chile#1973_coup and here 1973 Chilean coup d'état. They show that Hitchen's assertion is incorrect that the US directly helped. These pages are better sources on the coup d'etat. 89.168.113.120 (talk) 11:05, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
First, please indent your comments. And I read those articles, I would not say they are better sourced. They rely on surprisingly few sources.Jeppiz (talk) 11:13, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
They are certainly better sources on the Chilean coup than Hitchen's kissinger book. 89.168.113.120 (talk) 11:16, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I would not say that, no. Not necessarily worse, but not better either. Nothing decisive there that would justify throwing out the source here.Jeppiz (talk) 11:20, 20 February 2013 (UTC)––″ile#1973_coup]] and here 1973 Chilean coup d'état, these contradict Hitchen's and are well sourced and well written pages. There is no proof the US directly helped in the coup. 89.168.113.120 (talk) 09:27, 18 February 2jnhdfvhjbfhycvfrbrbfv vg v vg[reply]

The Trial of Henry Kissinger may be a reliable source on Kissinger but it is probably not regarding the Chilean coup. 89.168.113.120 (talk) 10:30, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You claiming that it's incorrect does not make it incorrect. If you want to challenge what a source says, you're in your full right to do at 19], [2].Jeppiz (talk) 10:59, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Read U.S._intervention_in_Chile#1973_coup and here 1973 Chilean coup d'état. They show that Hitchen's assertion is incorrect that the US directly helped. These pages are better sources on the coup d'etat. 89.168.113.120 (talk) 11:05, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
First, please indent your comments. And I read those articles, I would not say they are better sourced. They rely on surprisingly few sources.Jeppiz (talk) 11:13, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
They are certainly better sources on the Chilean coup than Hitchen's kissinger book. 89.168.113.120 (talk) 11:16, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I would not say that, no. Not necessarily worse, but not better either. Nothing decisive there that would justify throwing out the source here.Jeppiz (talk) 11:20, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Information source

http://www.answers.com/topic/v-ctor-jara-2

Answers.com may not be considered citable, but this article has voluminous extensively-footnoted material that could with benefit our Wikipedia article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.190.133.143 (talk) 03:15, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There are a few periodicals in the first part, but other than that, the largest text (with the footnotes) is a direct rip of this very article... czar ♔ 04:59, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple references to "hands", no explanation

I was told by a Chilean immigrant to the US that Jara had his hands cut off before he was murdered - if someone has an RS for that it would help explain the references. It might only be a commonly held belief; if not the reliable sources are probably in Spanish. Thanks for your attention. The most effectual Bob Cat (talk) 01:32, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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