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Dispute over content

There is currently an edit war over the content of the page over whether; A) the party is linked to the Australian Brotherhood of Families and, B) the party can have men's rights labelled. The Australian Brotherhood of Families website has a registration page which states that to join the Brotherhood of Families you should join Australian Better Families stating "As a brotherhood we can no longer sit silently on the political sidelines to witness the betrayal of our children and families. We invite you to become our partner in reform as a member of the ABF party.".[1] The website also has a link to the party on the top promoting ABF party membership. The founder of the party is also the leader of the Brotherhood of Families. This organisation has plenty of evidence of being labelled a men's rights group,[2][3] and the party has policies such as promoting a minister for men.[4] There hasn't been any attempt by the editor to try and dispute these claims, it smells like a public relations campaign. Catiline52 (talk) 03:29, 13 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Bradleys247: The contact details of the Brotherhood of Families and the Australian Better Families are the same.[5] (https://betterfamilies.org.au/contact-us/ (In the footer)). The footer of Better Families also links to the Brotherhood of Families. I'm unsure what more evidence the editor wants. If the Brotherhood states that it is their political party, and there are several links between the two organisations websites, and there is the same contact information, how are the two organisations not linked? Catiline52 (talk) 01:14, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ "Membership Levels". Australian Brotherhood Of Fathers.
  2. ^ "Beware the dubious claims of this men's rights group". www.dailytelegraph.com.au. 23 June 2017.
  3. ^ Medhora, By James Purtill and Shalailah (24 November 2017). "Brothers & Blokes: The men behind One Nation's domestic violence policy". triple j.
  4. ^ "Australian Better Families Party". www.facebook.com.
  5. ^ "Contact Us". Australian Brotherhood Of Fathers. Retrieved 15 April 2019.

Ideology

The ideology remains incorrect. The ideology is not “Men’s rights” if anything closely resembled, it should be ‘children’s rights’.

Please note the ideology of the Party is as registered with the Australian Electoral Commission Australian Better Families, further the policies of the group reflect that of a ‘centre conservative’ party/group. Claude1980Meir (talk) 01:09, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I propose to remove the ideology and the political position from the infobox (as I have done a number of times before on this article). This is partly as that appears to be the centre of the edit war, partly as I'm not certain the sources universally support either of the versions of content. One of the cited sources is a post on the party's own Facebook page. The references could be used to write a paragraph about the ideals of the party, which do not sound exactly like what is described in the article on Men's rights movement. --Scott Davis Talk 06:01, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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