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Use a "standard" layout for transhumanism related articles (see: The perfect article, and Featured articles)
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Maintenance / Etc

Find/cite sources for all positions of an article (see citing sources.
Try to expand stubs, however, some "new" articles may be neologisms, as this is common with positions on theories on life and may be suitable for deletion (see deletion process)
Watch the list of transhumanism related articles and add to accordingly (see transhumanism articles)
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false choice into false dilemma - discuss whether you are for or against this merge here
Clarify references in Transhumanism, using footnotes.

Tools and design

Glad to see this project. I am involved in maintaining WP:POLAND and WP:SOCIOLOGY, and I've significantly redesigned their pages, and implemented numerous tools. See if you'd like me to copy something from them here. I'd particularly suggest enabling the Article Alerts, Most Popular, Copyediting and New Article feeds. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me} 15:46, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's good to have you on board, we could definitely use a more experienced editor, especially when setting up the project. Your recommended tools look promising. Also, missing biographies and B-class review seem like a good idea.--Pereant antiburchius (talk) 16:52, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

@ portal:transhumaism, personal development is not a technology. do someone wana change what the list is called or exclude it? skak E L 16:24, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Small bug in template or in section in name?

Go to a page like Talk:How_to_Create_a_Mind, in the WikiProject Transhumanism banner click on the words "importance scale". It tries to take you to:

Wikipedia:WikiProject_Transhumanism/Assessment#Importance_scale

But there is no section "Importance scale", instead the section is called "Importance assessment". So either the template or the section name has to be changed. I looked at the template and could not really figure out where the section name was in there. I would say just fix the landing page, but I didn't want to break something. Silas Ropac (talk) 18:41, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicated places to ask for assessment

On Wikipedia:WikiProject Transhumanism there is a section "requesting an assessment" which says "place requests here". But on Wikipedia:WikiProject Transhumanism/Assessment there is also a section which says "requesting an assessment" with an invitation to list articles there. I propose one or the other be removed. Silas Ropac (talk) 14:18, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I boldly took care of this. Made it like WikiProject Books, where the main points to the assessment page. Seems to make sense to have the list of articles to assess live on the assessment page. Silas Ropac (talk) 21:06, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nayef Al-Rodhan Rewrite

The biography is copied verbatim from his website: sustainablehistory.com . Should be up for deletion, suggested whole rewrite. It's within your interests so I thought I'd let you know. I'll have a gander at it. amosabo^t@lk; 09:52, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:48, 1 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject X is live!

Hello everyone!

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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is an RFC that may affect a page in this project

There is an RFC that may affect a page in this project at WikiProject Tree of Life. The topic is Confusion over taxonomy of subtribe Panina and taxon homininae (are chimps hominins)?

Please feel free to comment there. SPACKlick (talk) 17:06, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Transhumanist politics and Transhumanist Party

See Talk:Transhumanist politics. The long section on the Transhumanist Party had a lot of terrible sources. There's talk of spinning it out as a separate article, but a separate article failed AFD once already and a draft prospective replacement has failed once. More eyes needed - David Gerard (talk) 17:42, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tracking anti-transhumanists

I'm pretty happy with Category:Transhumanists and hope it'll grow in time. However is there any reciprocal category for anti-transhumanists or similar?

What is an anti-transhumanist? I was researching Amir Taaki who I was interested in meeting, but came across some very clear anti-transhumanist statements which has put me off. The problem is, there are very few notable anti-transhumanists, simply sceptics to different degrees. Can this idea go anywhere? Deku-shrub (talk) 18:48, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well there's Category:Anarcho-primitivists. I don't think creating a category for that (e.g. Transhumanist critics/Critics of tranhumanism) is necessarily a good idea because people might falsly be categorized in there just for being skeptic (e.g. about specific aspects or subideologies of it). I think the transhumanist movement/ideology is far too broad to enable such a plain category (speaking of "Anti-transhumanists" as a category). A category "Critics of transhumanism" might work though. --Fixuture (talk) 19:10, 8 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I begin accused Wiki User:David_Gerard and the former User:I9Q79oL78KiL0QTFHgyc to be somewhat Anti-Transhumanist views by start begin "questioning" pages to ultimately deleted Transhumanist Pages without other users apporval like [1] and recent [2] pages as claimed they not belong to wikipedia even they been existed for decede (Parahuman page being made in December 10, 2004 and IEET page being made in January 21, 2005). 2606:A000:85E7:4E00:1119:D8AC:53B1:DCD4 (talk) 21:12, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This paragraph is close to being undecipherable. Just because a poor article has been included in Wikipedia for ten years without sources or an acknowledgment of notability does not mean that we are under an obligation to retain it. jps (talk) 12:47, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if that's serious. But it's a good showcase on how hard it would be to maintain this category. Not that categories that are hard to maintain aren't worth it though. But I think there aren't that many people openly explicitly self-identifying as anti-transhumanist to make it category worth creating as such is imo needed for how easy people can be misunderstood in that context. @2606:A000:85E7:4E00:1119:D8AC:53B1:DCD4: categories aren't for wikipedia users. There might be userboxes that allow people to self-identify as anti-transhumanists but that's something else than claiming other people are such. If you think those two editors are biased in that way you could make a post about it on some noticeboard or their talk page. --Fixuture (talk) 22:35, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, not the talk page: [3][4] - David Gerard (talk) 08:43, 11 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need for tracking. Everybody chill. Geraldshields11 (talk) 15:27, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hplus pedia

Humanity+ has installed their own wiki where we can better track the minutiae of transhumanist goings on without the Wikipedia notability bar.

Ideally it will become a good article incubation space.

http://hpluspedia.org/ Deku-shrub (talk) 23:28, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all

@The Transhumanist: @Pereant antiburchius: @Piotr Konieczny: @Gap9551: @Adam9389: @Kenfyre: @Rhododendrites: @Raelifin2: @Voyaging: @Waters.Justin: @Mechanic1c: @Fixuture:

I will be doing an introductory event about H+Pedia, what has been created and what possibilities it holds the weekend after next. (Sunday the 6th).

Do feel free to attend, ask questions, or just watch the recording of the event at a later date.

Deku-shrub (talk) 21:15, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

RfC notice: transhumanist politics

There is a Request for Comment at the Talk page for transhumanist politics. The Transhumanist Party recently finished an American bus tour – should it be mentioned in the "History" section of the article? –Haptic-feedback (talk) 07:04, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Anarcho-transhumanism: sources?

An IP editor came by, annoyed that anarcho-transhumanism redirects to libertarian transhumanism which is basically the opposite (it's left-wing anarchism, not anarchocapitalism). So they changed it in this edit. This was reverted, but it did make me think there was probably cause for an article here. Trouble is finding Wikipedia-quality sourcing - there's lots of blog posts, but nothing remotely citable. Any ideas, or a better place to redirect it? - David Gerard (talk) 12:28, 18 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@David Gerard: It's tiny, but already written up on H+Pedia here. Deku-shrub (talk) 20:38, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I had a look at that and there's nothing there that's Wikipedia quality sadly ... - David Gerard (talk) 20:45, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion on Talk:Transhumanism

There is a debate on the talk page about whether fringe science is a suitable see also, whether there should be a hatnote for posthumanism and how to cover the Mormon Transhumanist Association. Fixuture has asked for more eyes and I concur, so mentioning it here - David Gerard (talk) 22:41, 4 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Merge project with WikiProject Futures studies?

Whilst I'm well aware that transhumanism and future studies are not synonymous, given that future studies actually has a level of traffic right now and this one does not, I suggest an effort be made to merge this project into the other, thoughts? Deku-shrub (talk) 22:47, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose - they only overlap. A low level of traffic is imo no reason to merge. Also that could change. (Should actually; people should promote and recruit interested people via WikiProjects such as this one for Wikipedia on relevant websites.) Many reasons not to merge including that it would cause conflation and many pages would have to lose the banner. --Fixuture (talk) 12:56, 4 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A mass update of banners etc would be trivial to automate simply by redirecting the existing templates Deku-shrub (talk) 19:39, 6 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Can I help?

Hi, I've just joined the project and I was wondering whether I could be of assistance. Regards - Heptanitrocubane (talk) 19:59, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There's not a lot of activity on the project. If you're interested, there is more cutting edge stuff at https://hpluspedia.org Deku-shrub (talk) 20:33, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks.Heptanitrocubane (talk) 10:45, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Anissimov CSD

Feel free to weigh in. Smooth alligator (talk) 22:40, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

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A new newsletter directory is out!

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"Collective Intelligence"

The article on collective intelligence seems to be of quite low quality, though it has lots of text on the page. Is it legitimately "B Class"? I think it is a better match for "C Class": "The article is substantial, but is still missing important content or contains much irrelevant material. The article should have some references to reliable sources, but may still have significant problems or require substantial cleanup." The first step towards improving it might be to downgrade its current rating. Arided (talk) 12:12, 18 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]