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Help regarding making a wikipedia page

Greetings!

I'm Parth Bhatt, a high school student and I have undertaken over 250 courses by organisations like United Nations, United States Institute of Peace and Peace Operations Training Institute, USA. I have several achievements of national and international level.

I wanted to have a wikipedia page on me so that people and children of my age group can get to know about me and get in contact with me for help in completing courses. I want the youth to be aware of the current global issues as they are the future. As a child, I realised that I need to take part in empowering others in order to make this world a better pace to live. I did not want to be the one who focuses only on academics but a person with practical knowledge and experience.

Most of my references and citations are offline. Can anyone please help me in making the article.

Thanking you with kind regards, Parth Bhatt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parth239 (talk • contribs) 14:58, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Parth239. People and children of your age group can get to know about you and get in contact with you for help in completing courses via social media, such as Facebook, which differs in many important ways from an Encyclopedia. Best of luck!--Quisqualis (talk) 20:34, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

talk I'm already on Social Media sites such as Facebook and Instagram but it isn't helping much. Some the UN certificates which I was conferred with have just about 3,000 recipients in this world of 7.7 Billion people. Please tell me what can I do to use offline sources as citations on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parth239 (talk • contribs) 08:25, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia requires reliable, published sources. If you have not been written about impartially in such sources, your notability on Wikipedia hasn't been established. Further, your purpose in wanting a Wikipedia article about you is entirely social. Ask for help in making social connections from your instructors and fellow students.--Quisqualis (talk) 20:25, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Parth239 You sound like an impressive person; however, Wikipedia is not interested in what people want to say about themselves. If you merit an article here, someone else should write it with a neutral point of view. You could have input, but no more than any other editor, and you could not dictate what appears there. A Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable. There are good reasons to not want an article. 331dot (talk) 20:40, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Alright respecter sir/ma'am! Thanks for your valuable inputs!

Wikipedia i Rumârește?

Sâ, hioc teș caus sâ (Romǎnǎ) ul hioc có jîşnéc niop sâșteș. Sâ vémcóț ces hioc coș jîșnéc ju hua "Jan Diu" ul hioc "sâ" jauș lufi hîmóp. Țaum hioc tías fém cóp jînéc niop, ă Wikipedia i Rumârește? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.156.128.249 (talk) 18:16, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, IP editor. This is English Wikipedia, and we are unable to respond in other languages. (Google translate isn't much help, either, I'm afraid). Nick Moyes (talk) 18:21, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Rumârește!

Da, ul hioc jî cea mac n'asehǎta pâr Wikipedia i Rumârește, na ta "English Wikipedia", hua steu jî n'i "Google translate"

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! Unfortunately, I can't tell what you're saying- I do not speak Vietnamese, and nor do most people here (I have used a translation tool for this). Would you like to try out the Vietnamese Wikipedia?

Xin chào và chào mừng bạn đến với Wikipedia! Thật không may, tôi không thể nói những gì bạn nói - Tôi không nói tiếng Việt và hầu hết mọi người ở đây (tôi đã sử dụng một công cụ dịch thuật cho việc này). Bạn có muốn dùng thử Wikipedia tiếng Việt không? -A lad insane (Channel 2) 18:27, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

A lad insane, pretty confident that this is Romanian, possibly poorly spelled, or some dialect thereof. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:29, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I guess autodetect Google Translate wasn't a perfect strategy. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 18:38, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

I think the words "có" and "hioc" which are in Vietnamese but not Romanian may have thrown it off. At any rate, ț is a giveaway for languages that use the Romanian alphabet, I'm not aware of any other script that includes that character. Also "ș" is not in Vietnamese. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:46, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Bună dimineața, Traducerea Google are dificultăți în traducerea a ceea ce ați scris, dar Wikipedia română este aici. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:28, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Hua Rumârește! Rumârește =/= Română! JEAL!!! ;( ;( ;( [ul refedere] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.156.128.249 (talk) 18:48, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Mulțumesc, dar Rumârește =/= Română. :( Dar pot să vorbesc amândoi :)

"The Istro-Romanian language (Istro Romanian: Rumârește) is an Eastern Romance language, spoken in a few villages and hamlets in the peninsula of Istria in Croatia, as well as in diaspora, most notably in Italy, Sweden, Germany, Northern and Southern America, and Australia.

While its speakers call themselves Rumeri, Rumeni, they are also known as Vlachs, Rumunski, Ćići and Ćiribiri. The last two, used by ethnic Croats, originated as a disparaging nickname for the language, rather than its speakers.

Due to the fact that its speakers are estimated to be less than 500 (the "smallest ethnic group in Europe"), it is listed among languages that are "seriously endangered" in the UNESCO Red Book of Endangered Languages.[3]

It is also considered by some Romanian scholars as an idiosyncratic offshoot dialect of Romanian."

• Maybe they're asking if there's a wikipedia in their language? --valereee (talk) 18:37, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Da

Well in that case, the short answer is no, we do not have an Istroromanian Wikipedia yet. I'm not aware of how to start a new Wikipedia for a language, maybe someone else here does though.

Ei bine, în acest caz, răspunsul scurt este nu, încă nu avem o Wikipedia Istoromaniană. Nu știu cum să încep o nouă Wikipedia pentru o limbă, poate că altcineva de aici face. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:41, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

I think Incubator is where that happens. Eman235/talk 20:37, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Vă roc nu mă șună Vietnameze înafarădast, a lad insane hua GreenMeansGo. JEAL.

Could it be about the revert message at User talk:Jeal Istro-Romanian received from User:Serols? Sorry, this IP left a message at my talk page too.Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 19:38, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

I've restored the above comments removed by the same IP editor. Masum Reza^📞 22:14, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Where is the Tea house ?

I wanna come there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShreyasEP (talk • contribs) 01:38, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @ShreyasEP:. You're here! Do you need help with anything? Orville1974^talk 02:04, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@ShreyasEP:, The teahouse is not an actual teahouse. WikiSmartLife (talk) 04:52, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Recently Published Page on Sandbox Deleted

Hi team, A recent page which I tried to publish in the name of Jindal Stainless was up for speedy deletion. I am still unaware of the reason and would request you to throw some light on the matter.

Thanks, Shaurya — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shauryaaaa (talk • contribs) 04:18, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

As the message on your talk page states, it was deleted under WP:G11 as promotional material. pinging the deleting admin user:creffett Meters (talk) 04:26, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Meters, clarification: I'm not the deleting admin, just the one who tagged it for deletion. Fastily is the deleting admin. creffett (talk) 19:11, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Of course. Sorry. Meters (talk) 19:43, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Shauryaaaa Welcome to Teahouse. Your page was deleted due to content was advertising in nature and you bleached the copyright infreignment by copying the content directly from other source instead writing the article in your own words - see HERE. Do note, Wikipedia takes copyright infringement extremely seriously. Please visit WP:Your First Article to familiar yourself on how to write an article and WP:GOLDENRULE for the requirements needed. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 04:29, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi Shauryaaa. Just to add to what Meters posted above. If you click on User:Shauryaaaa/sandbox, you'll see that the page was deleted by an administrator named Fastily per WP:U5. I can't see the deleted page because I'm not an administrator, but this usually happens when the content is not deemed suitable for Wikipedia for some reason (e.g. too promotional). The best thing to do would be to ask Fastily about this at User talk:Fastily. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:30, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

I haven't seen the article, but if there's not enough sourcing for a standalone article, you might consider adding your info to the Jindal Group article, where Jindal Stainless is already mentioned. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 04:55, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Account still not auto-confirmed

Hello,

I have made around 15 edits and my account is more than 7 days old. However, my account still has not been auto-confirmed which means I cannot edit many pages that would require some editing (semi-protected pages). Do you know why?

Thanks,

Pierre — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pierre.Wanders (talk • contribs) 12:13, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Pierre.Wanders What message comes up when you attempt to do something requiring auto-confirmation? Based on your edits, you shouldn't be having difficulty. 331dot (talk) 12:16, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

There is also an extended-confirmed level of rights, where you need 500 edits and your account must be 30 days old. 331dot (talk) 12:17, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Pierre definitely doesn't have autoconfirmed rights as I write this. WP:AUTOCONFIRM suggests reasons why it might take more than 10 edits/4 days, like using Tor. Eman235/talk 13:48, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Your link says "Implicit member of: Autoconfirmed users" for me. That means Pierre.Wanders is autoconfirmed. It does not produce an entry in the User rights log. It's usually a misunderstanding of a feature when autoconfirmed users think they are not autoconfirmed. @Pierre.Wanders: Why do you think it? PrimeHunter (talk) 16:33, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Huh, you're right. xtools says that too. My bad. Eman235/talk 19:52, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Is it possible to have a warning removed?

This is (DashGraham (talk) 14:38, 27 June 2019 (UTC)). I got a warning for inserting links that were considered spam. I am new to editing and don't want to be blacklisted. Is it possible to have the warning removed? I am committed to the integrity of Wikipedia and feel embarrassed about my mistake.

@DashGraham: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You are permitted to remove content from your own user talk page, though it is stored in the edit history. Removing it is considered an acknowledgement that you read it. As long as you change your behavior, you should not have any mistakes held against you, even if you didn't remove warnings. 331dot (talk) 15:21, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@DashGraham: There is a couple of exceptions to removing user talk page posts, such as unblock request reviews while blocked, but in general you can control what appears on your user talk page. 331dot (talk) 15:22, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@331dot: - Thank you! I am so grateful for your help. I have another questions for you. How do I figure out which literary journals are held in high regard by administrators of Wikipedia? (DashGraham (talk) 15:29, 27 June 2019 (UTC))

@DashGraham: Keep in mind that administrators do not have the final word on whether any source is held in "high regard"; it's determined by community consensus, as with most other things on Wikipedia. You may read this page on reliable sources for information on what is considered to be a reliable source. In short, sources are reliable if they have a reputation of editorial control and fact checking. I'm not an expert but I believe that journals need to be peer-reviewed. Others may know more. If you have questions about what is or is not a reliable source, there is a reliable sources noticeboard for such questions.

Just as a note, pings only work if you sign the same post in which you make the ping(I see you added the ping later, that does not work). 331dot (talk) 15:35, 27 June 2019 (UTC) @331dot: did this ping work? I'm not sure how to sign into the same post. Thank you! DashGraham (talk) 17:18, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources may be of help. We try to avoid Predatory publishing. Context is imprtant, WP doesn't consider any source reliable for everything, but some are "generally reliable." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:21, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Kurdistan

Here (https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Herro_Mustafa&curid=22120412&diff=903734416&oldid=902423763) I have caught an IP removing all mentions of Kurdistan from the lead section.

What is Wikipedia's policy on the Kurdistan issue? I know that it has been a very controversial topic in recent years, so I'd like to pursue the least dramatic and radical approach to dealing with this. (I. e. I'm hesitant to straight-up revert the edit, because others might think that I favor a particular political opinion.) So what should I do? TitanSymphony (talk) 16:44, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Update: another user reverted the IP edit. Did he or she do the right thing? I'd still like an answer, though, just in case I encounter another situation like this. TitanSymphony (talk) 16:46, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@TitanSymphony: The revert was right as the IP user broke a link to the Kurdish people article and deleted additional information. Note that it says Kurdistan region (geographical/cultural) and not Kurdistan. KREOH (talk) 18:05, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

how to become an editor

HI, guys and ladies.

I was wondering how to make edits because I was writing about John Calvin but it said that the edit was blank but I was looked DEAD AT THE REVIEW. Did I do something wrong, excuse me for any impatient but I really want to get done with it because I think someone in the world could use it? Please help, please and thank you. Also please read my reviews and tell me if you like them or if I need to change anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1coolsean (talk • contribs) 19:14, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, 1coolsean. Wikipedia already has an article on John Calvin. Maproom (talk) 19:50, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi 1coolsean and welcome to the teahouse. Your content is at User talk:1coolsean. You submitted the wrong page. You need to read WP:Referencing for beginners next time you try to write an article, but you don't seem to have noticed that we already have an article on John Calvin so we don't need another. Dbfirs 19:51, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi

Can you send me pictures of high heel boots to my phone number please — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beastcjb (talk • contribs) 19:45, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@Beastcjb: Sorry, this is not what this forum is for. Interstellarity T 🌟 19:47, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Though, for what it's worth, there are some pictures of high heeled boots (among other high heeled shoes) on Commons. Eman235/talk 19:50, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Joüche Paldakvieko (talk) 08:36, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Belle Delphine

Before you say anything, just know that I have over 2,500 edits, 50 articles created, and 2 years of experience. I'm not new.

Why was Belle Delphine deleted. I thought she was WP:N. I mean, she was my first human article, so I'm not exactly experienced in that field (I'm primarily in astronomy) so I'd like some feedback. Thanks! AdrianWikiEditor (talk) 19:57, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@AdrianWikiEditor: The article has only been nominated for deletion; you are welcome to contribute to the discussion, which you have. 331dot (talk) 20:44, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Group reference

Helped
Hi. How do you group together many citations like this? Thank you. UberVegan🌾 21:28, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @UberVegan: - The guide on different ways to do that is here: WP:BUNDLING, but in this case, many of those should be removed, see WP:CITEKILL. That many citations on one statement appears like the result of ongoing edit-warring. Orville1974^talk 21:38, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@Orville1974: you are right. Thank you. UberVegan🌾 21:53, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi again @UberVegan: I just realized WP:BUNDLING doesn't actually explain the code. Here's more specifics: Where you want the inline citation, create a named reference, like: <ref name="list" /> <--- any name you pick

Then list out the citations:

• {{Cite news|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/world/europe/last-night-in-sweden-trumps-remark-baffles-a-nation.html|title=‘Last Night in Sweden’? Trump’s Remark Baffles a Nation|last=Chan|first=Sewell|date=2017-02-19|newspaper=The New York Times|access-date=2017-02-19|issn=0362-4331}}
• {{Cite news|url=http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/g26Lk|title=After Trump’s ‘Last night in Sweden’: Here are the errors in Fox News' report on Swedish immigration|newspaper=Aftonbladet|access-date=2017-02-20}}
  

etc.
Then end with a closing: </ref> tag. Orville1974^talk 22:02, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, again. I found this page from the page you linked. UberVegan🌾 22:13, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@UberVegan: Also you might want to check Template:cite web for documentation. Masum Reza^📞 22:18, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Redirect help, I think

Hi,

I have created a draft, Association for Feminist Anthropology, which I want to establish as an article. When I do a name search, I am directed to the American Anthropological Association article. Can you help me remove the redirect so I can create the article? thanks MauraWen (talk) 00:12, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, MauraWen. I have removed the redirect now, so you can begin work on the article Association for Feminist Anthropology.--Quisqualis (talk) 01:19, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

If your draft were accepted for publication to mainspace, the redirect would be dealt with as part of the publication process. At present the draft isn't suitable as a mainspace article because none of the references are independent of the subject. David Biddulph (talk) 01:24, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@Quisqualis and David Biddulph: thx for your help. I will put the draft aside until I find an independent reference or two. MauraWen (talk) 13:01, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Help with Ping Backs

Helped
I realize this is a really basic question, but how do these work.... Can someone explain this? DashGraham (talk) 02:33, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@DashGraham: The instructions are here: Template:Reply to. I used {{ping|DashGraham}} in this response, but there are other versions with different effects (in the See also section at the bottom of the article). Orville1974^talk 02:55, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Orville1974, you don't even need a template as it's just a wrapper to create a link to a user, which is simply one of the requirements to create ping. The specific details are listed on Help:Notifications#Alerts in the 'mentions' section. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:02, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

This might seem like a basic question, DashGraham, but lots of experienced editors get it wrong, so it's definitely worth asking. The important thing (which is what people often get wrong) is that you need to make sure that the username link (e.g. as provided by the template mentioned above) is included in an edit that is signed. The mistake that people often make is to post a comment, and then subsequently edit it to add a ping - but that doesn't work, because they already signed before adding the ping, and the notification won't be triggered. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:17, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@Cordless Larry: thank you so much for explaining this. I did not understand this nuance. This is very helpful. Thank you, Cordless Larry (DashGraham (talk) 18:47, 28 June 2019 (UTC))

I'm happy to help, DashGraham (and I received a notification of your ping, so you got it right). Cordless Larry (talk) 19:40, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Help Understanding the Feature Article Class (Thatgamecompany)

I was doing some research into what makes a good article in WP:COMPANIES. Thankfully that page contained a very nice table listing all the articles and their classes. I found that SEGA was listed as a FA candidate, which IMO should be promoted to that level. However, when I looked at another feature article, Thatgamecompany what I thought makes an article a feature was a bit more muddied.

The biggest thing that threw me off was the lack of citation in the lead. This lead me to Wikipedia:When_to_cite, which helped... I definitely understand now that citation is not as important in the lead as it generally summarizes the content below. However, the second paragraph of the lead contains quite of bit of content which reads as opinion. Again, I now get that the lead covers what's to be expected, but I'm struggling to understand whether it's more important to cite opinion wherever it appears or leave the reader to find this out later (opinion is clearly identified as requiring citation Wikipedia:When_to_cite#When_a_source_is_needed).

So looking at the actual citations related to that content (in the philosophy section), I noticed that both came from fairly low-level industry sources gamesindustry.biz & gamasutra.com. Neither reference seems very important. Additionally, neither article actually had quotes from employees, unless you count their founder as speaking for all employees.

This may be coming across as argumentative, but I'm really trying to understand how to be a better writer on wikipedia, and don't see a 'clear' definition of feature-class article, when the quality between Sega article and thatgamecompany are objectively different. Could I get help understand what makes an article feature class, especially when it comes to the quality of references used, and what information should be pull from those.

I guess I'm asking in a way to pull Thatgamecompany as a feature article, because I don't think the references are up to snuff, and what is in those references mislead the reader with what is actually said. How do I go about requesting an article receive a demotion of class? Thank you very much in advance

Jonkatora (talk) 02:45, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@Jonkatora: Try Wikipedia:Featured article review. Best of luck! -A lad insane (Channel 2) 03:05, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Jonkatora, I think you're looking for Wikipedia:Featured article review. Vexations (talk) 03:06, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

It seems to me that Thatgamecompany is a long way short of Featured Article status. While your exemplar, SEGA, is neutrally written and interesting, Thatgamecompany comes across as promotional and waffly, emphasising what its employees were aiming for rather than how its products were received. Maproom (talk) 09:52, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

It became an FA in 2011. It probably hasn't been kept up to the times. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 00:29, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

ERROR on Large Scale

Under the search for "shipwrecks" listed by year, the flag for United Kingdom and British North America seem to be reversed.

For example see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shipwrecks_in_January_1841 (plus all other months and years). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.67.242.175 (talk) 04:03, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

The flag shown next to to shipwrecks of British vessels in January 1841 is the Red Ensign, "the flag flown by British merchant or passenger ships since 1707". It is not intended to be the Flag of the United Kingdom, as it is not flown over ships. It is not the flag of British North America. General Ization ^Talk 04:13, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Please also note that the BNA flag was square and had the first Union Flag (without St. Patrick's cross) in the canton. The Red Ensign (aka the "Red Duster") has the current Union Flag (with St. Patrick's cross) and is typically 1:2 not square. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 08:34, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Show Preview

Hello there, first off I apologize If I have done anything wrong, I am new to editing wikipedia. I am just curious if when I use Show Preview and I exit the page if I can recover the stuff I added into the preview? Thanks for reading

Hi @GunvoltKong: Please sign your post with 4 of these:~. That way other editors know who is saying what. Clicking Resume editing in the top left corner will return you to your ongoing edits from the preview window. If you forget, many times if you go right back in to editing the article again, your previous edits are waiting for you, but don't rely on that to always happen. Orville1974^talk 05:10, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Writing an article

I need help, what must I do first to write a proper article that can be published. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronaldodiso (talk • contribs) 04:44, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Ronaldodiso: Successfully creating a new article is one of the most difficult tasks on Wikipedia. Newer users often end up disappointed when their hard work is removed for not meeting Wikipedia notability guidelines. In your case, Notability for organizations outlines the criteria the article will need to meet. Before you spend a lot of time writing an article, research the company from third-party reliable sources to see if it meets those guidelines. Stronger M founder of Upper Life Brand does not meet the criteria right now, and no amount of re-writing will make up for the lack of notability. As a new user, I recommend waiting to create the articles until you've gained some experience editing existing articles. This new user tutorial is a great way to get you started. If you're still determined to create an article immediately, you should follow the instructions at Your First Article and use Articles for Creation Orville1974^talk 05:06, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Referring to someone who has died as 'the late ...'

Hi

I am trying to find a guideline on whether editors should use the term 'the late' in articles when referring to a person who has died. I am sure there's such a guideline but cannot find it in the manual of style. Does anyone know where to find it?

Thanks!

Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 08:11, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Curb Safe Charmer WP:EUPHEMISM discusses how "died" should be used instead of other ways to say it, but I'm not sure about "the late". 331dot (talk) 08:16, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Curb Safe Charmer: It might fall under MOS:EUPHEMISM, WP:RELTIME or maybe in some way even MOS:SURVIVEDBY. It doesn't sound very sound very encyclopedic (at least not to me) for Wikipedia's purposes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:21, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Curb Safe Charmer Is it a particular problem in a particular place, and if so could you maybe point it out for us please? It's a bit different with euphemisms ("passed on" etc) as there's an idea of not disguising the meaning and calling a spade a spade, etc, but with "the late" I can't think of an obvious alternative usage – it's not like you can choose between The late Harold Wilson and The dead Harold Wilson and Harold Wilson, who is no longer with us etc etc – so to me it looks as if "the late" is possibly quite reasonable if the context requires it – obviously it would be very daft to say The late Julius Caesar in most imaginable contexts. So can you show us where it's bothering you, please? Thanks 82.39.96.55 (talk) 08:25, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your replies. I am chipping away at improving Yahaya Abubakar where the term is used five times. I am sure I can edit the article to avoid the term, but wanted to refer to a guideline in my edit summary. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 08:49, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@Curb Safe Charmer: Having had a quick look, I'd certainly remove 'Late' from mention of family members. It would be the equivalent of including birth and death dates of siblings, and many would see this is not highly relevant to the article. And how do we know they're dead - is this included in citations? Either way, I'm also sure 'Late' shouldn't have a capital letter. The only occurrence I wold retain wold be in mention of his late uncle, who he succeeded. That's my personal take on it. Best wishes, Nick Moyes (talk) 09:19, 28 June 2019 (UTC)  

I wouldn't worry about a style guidelines here, Curb Safe Charmer - I would just remove them for clarity's sake. It's unclear from the present wording whether "late" is signifying that the people are late now, or were late at the time of the article subject's birth. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:19, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

I agree wholeheartedly with all the advice above. I think all those "late"s were just making a mess of it and removing them is 100% right. What useful data were they adding?? None, and your editor-instincts were spot on. Cheers 82.39.96.55 (talk) 08:09, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Off-site Conversations Between Editors Regarding Wikipedia Articles: Allowed?

Is there any Wikipedia rule, or policy, that prohibits Editors from having "collaborative" conversations off-site regarding Wikipedia Articles, where collective decisions regarding the editing Articles are made, so that once off-site consensus is made, they are presented as a "united front" on the Talk page?Tym Whittier (talk) 13:01, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hey Tym Whittier. Wikipedia editors collaborate off Wikipedia all the time in a number of ways, including social media and real-life conferences and meetings. However, specifically for the purpose of reaching a consensus for article content, it is usually best to have such discussions on Wikipedia rather than elsewhere, as this can foster a greater breadth of input, will leave a record to which future editors may refer, and can avoid the appearance of canvassing or meatpuppetry. GMG^talk 13:15, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Check this out: Threat or Bullying?

Helped
I just saw an editor by the user name of Phil Bridger with this sort of writing "Be careful what you ask for" at the end of this talk page: [[1]] I wonder if he is imposing a threat or merely bullying? Can I ask other editors and admin to take a look and comment? Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:800:9030:2c47:74cc:a753:20f9:de95 (talk) 14:56, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi. Please sign your comments with 4 of these:~. It helps everyone keep track of who is saying what. The editor posted that message to an article talk page due to recent repeated attempts by multiple anonymous editors to blank properly sourced, unflattering material about the article's subject. It's a reference to WP:PROUD, not a threat or bullying. Orville1974^talk 15:08, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

That's also an English idiom: see wikt:be careful what you wish for. It means that there may unintended effects that the editor did not foresee or desire. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 16:23, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Phil Bridger has added a clarifying comment about what he meant on the talk page of the article. Orville1974^talk 16:27, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Why was my article rejected?

Dear Sir or Madame,

I am working for an NGO called Eurodiaconia based in Brussel. Since months we're trying to create a Wikipedia page but without success. I was wondering whether I could have some feedback on why our submissions were rejected and what needs to be improved in order to publish? Our first submission was rejected; we then updated it and sent it again for approval, please find the link below. I would really appreciate if you could let us know at what stage the review is. Thanks in advance!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Eurodiaconia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eurodiaconia (talk • contribs) 14:58, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@Eurodiaconia: When you create a draft for an article, you need to either (1) WP:MOVE the article yourself to the article mainspace or (2) submit if for review to Wikipedia:Articles for creation (AFC). There's no automatic review process so the draft will continue to remain a draft until you do one of those two things. Since you appear to have a conflict of interest based upon what you posted above, I strongly suggest you follow option two and submit your draft for review; this will give an AFC reviewer a chance to look it over and assess whether the subject matter is something sufficiently Wikipedia notable enough for an article to be written about it. I will add a template to the draft so that you can submit it for review when you think its ready.

Now a couple of other things:

1. Your choice of username is not something allowed per WP:ORGNAME. I will add a template about this to your user talk page
2. You have a COI with respect to this subject matter, so please take a look at Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide to familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's position on COI editing. You might also be subject to Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. I will add a template about these things to your user talk page.
3. Only organizations deemed to be Wikipedia notable are considered appropriate to have articles written about them. Please take a look at Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) and Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not here to tell the world about your noble cause for more information on what this means.

-- Marchjuly (talk) 15:18, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

A glitch

Helped
A section I created at Talk:Tesla, Inc. seems to be not appearing. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 16:30, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @ImmortalWizard: It was caused by a malformed reference tag in a prior comment. It's fixed now. Orville1974^talk 16:37, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

list of strikes

I wish to add an important strike to the List of Strikes article, but I don't know how. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.70.189.175 (talk) 17:49, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi IP, I'm assuming the reason you're having trouble with List of strikes is because of the table formatting? I would suggest identifying where on the page you want to add the content, opening the page in source-editing mode, and copying the syntax of other entries for the edit you want to make. Don't forget to provide a citation as well. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:58, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello

Awah, Nigeria in new article queue

i have reviewed and updated my article "Awah, Nigeria" but it has been pending since June , 2019 so i don't know what is holding it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mykeazi (talk • contribs) 17:59, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Mykeazi, the AfC queue has a backlog of several thousand articles. Please be patient and someone will take a look at it eventually. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 18:05, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Way to see what pages redirect to a given article?

So I had a mosey around WP:Redirect and Help:Redirect, and I don't think I found a way to see all the pages which redirect to the article you're on/you enter into the query.

Does it exist? Am I blind? Did it exist at one point? Is it a special requirement or something?

(I ask, because an article I'm looking at is using a half-dozen bolded phrases in the middle of the body, and I'm trying to determine if they're left-overs from redirect/merges, or just poor formatting. I'll be likely cleaning them either-way, but was curious enough after poking around to ask.)

Thanks, and Cheers! Elfabet (talk) 19:56, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Elfabet, there's a "What links here" button near the middle of the left-side menu on every article. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 19:57, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Derp, I knew that. Thanks! Elfabet (talk) 19:59, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

methylsalicylate

On the page for methyl salicylate the stick structure does not show the CH3 group. Why not? The space filling models both indicate the presence of a methyl group. Pages for toluene and tetramethylsilane, for example show the presence of CH3 groups specifically. As a chemist, I think the CH3 group should be added to the structure. Let me know if I can help. Dick Holroyd — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.75.200.173 (talk) 20:47, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi IP, I would suggest raising this question on the relevant talk page, Talk:Methyl salicylate, as that way you'll be able to discuss this with editors who are actively involved in editing that page. If no one responds there, you can consider going ahead and making the change yourself, or raising it on a Wikiproject talk page like Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Chemicals to get the attention of other editors who may be able to help. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 20:52, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

There are three structure diagrams at the top of the infobox for Methyl salicylate. They all show the methyl group. Maproom (talk) 22:11, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Tone of text in my draft

Hello all! My draft was unfortunately declined today saying that the tone of the text tends the draft to be more of a promotional work or a resume rather than an encyclopedic article. Can someone please take a look at it for me and give me some suggestions on how to improve my draft and resubmit it for reviewing? Thank you, Refluxdonut (talk) 22:19, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Courtesy link Draft:Milen Manoj Earath TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:13, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@Refluxdonut: Small suggestion, try pronouns. It reads a wee bit like a radio commercial right now, repeating the name every five seconds. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 00:49, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

@A lad insane: Hello! Thank you for your feedback. Shall work on that. How else do you think I can improve the language of the draft to make it more of an encyclopedic article rather than a promotional work?

Thanking you, Refluxdonut (talk) 10:01, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

@Refluxdonut: I'm not great at rewriting, but I can offer one more suggestion: focus on the major details. For instance, "where he learned to play Beethoven's Für Elise" is more trivia than anything. Trim down the fluff. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 15:32, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Dr. Oscar Gonzalez-Monteagudo

How can I add a picture to this short biography? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ed Spitzenberg (talk • contribs) 22:33, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@Ed Spitzenberg: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Instructions for uploading images can be found at WP:UPIMAGE. You will need to ensure that the copyright of the image allows you to upload it. 331dot (talk) 22:39, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Extended confirmed

Hi, I am now WP:EXTENDEDCONFIRMED (and have become a teahouse host), and I was just wondering: what other rights does this give me except for editing pages with Extended confirmed protection? WikiSmartLife (talk) 05:05, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi and welcome, WikiSmartLife. It also gives you the right to display an extended confirmed topicon, if you so choose. (Actually, there's nothing really keeping you from displaying the extended confirmed topicon as a non-ec editor so I guess this is more a privilege than a right.) However, while EC doesn't qualify you for WP:NPR, its requirements closely align with those and you might consider separately applying as additional help is always needed to clear the new page backlog. (edit - Since it appears most of the pages you've created have been deleted, you might have trouble joining the NPP just yet but it may be worthwhile to keep it in mind for the future.) Chetsford (talk) 08:17, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Raj dasireddy

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Pls create Wikipedia page raj dasireddy ,google him raj dasireddy or Sri raj hero — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sri raj dasireddy (talk • contribs) 05:11, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

What kind of personal information is allowed?

Hello. Just to be clear, I am not planning to post any personal information anytime soon; I'm just curious. Some time ago, when I was under 18, I posted some information about myself, including my full name, on my userpage. Not surprisingly, the edits were suppressed by Keilana to protect me, which I appreciate. However, I noticed that many Wikipedians post personal information about themselves on their userpage, and some even post their pictures. I was just curious why my edits were suppressed while other equally or more sensitive information were allowed. Is it because I was under 18 at that time? If so, how does an Oversight determine if someone is under 18 (assuming that they do not put their birth year on their username like me)? For example, now that I'm 18, can I post which college I will attend or photos of myself at Wikimania? Thank you! William2001^(talk) 05:40, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi William2001. I'm not an Oversighter, but I think that those who are only know as much about you as you choose to reveal. There's no age requirement per se that needs to be met when you register for a post and they can't tell your age from you IP; so, perhaps you posted something, even unintentionally, which gave you away your age. All any Wikipedian has to go by is what you post on Wikipedia, or perhaps what others post about you. Posting the personal information of others, however, is almost always a going to be a problem per WP:OUTING, but I don't think there's a way to stop you from posting about yourself. If you post too much stuff about yourself (which is really not related to Wikipedia) or appear to be just doing so to promote yourself or some cause, your userpage might be deleted one of the reasons given in WP:UP#NOT or your post might be WP:REVDEL per WP:SPAM, but you should be fine if you just stick to some basic information. Oversight generally only steps in when there's a pretty serious violation of some policy like WP:BLP or where the information is so problematic that it might actually lead to some real world problems. You can find out more at Wikipedia:Requests for oversight. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:41, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, William2001. Editors can choose to disclose personal information if they wish but that refers to well-informed adults. There are benefits to editing anonymously, and benefits to editing completely openly, as I do. But new editors should think through the implications of openness. I have received moderately credible death threats because of my editing, and very young family members were also threatened once. I am self-employed and 67 years old and tough. Are you prepared for that kind of harassment? Make your decisions carefully. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 08:02, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Concerning lists

I wanted to create content about witch-hunts in Nepal. In that process, I found myself wanting to create a list of related incidents in Nepal. The skeleton is here. The list can never be exhaustive but will have dozens of well-cited entries if created. Another experienced editor thought that there were enough sources to create an article Witch-hunts in Nepal with a lot of sociological content and minor attention to actual incidents. So, my question is; does the draft that I linked pass as a list article based on its format (event with "===" heading and a brief description)? If not, is there another way to create an article like it as something else other than a list? Any other advice? I feel it's probably too soon for me to try an article like Witch-hunts in Nepal given my inexperience but I'd be a lot more comfortable working on the article like that draft. That's why I am asking. Thanks! Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 08:19, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

@Usedtobecool: I think the linked draft could very well work under the title Witch-hunts in Nepal as it is. You can later exapnd it to to include material on the sociological background and organize the list under a subheading "List of incidents" there. I would not recommend creating List of witch-hunt-related incidents in Nepal before Witch-hunts in Nepal as it usually makes little sense to have a list without an article about the phenomenon. There is nothing wrong with embedded lists (i.e. lists within articles that are not List of articles). And don't worry if the article is not quite complete when you first create it (e.g. lacking that sociology content). All articles are basically works in process. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:00, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your response. I am quite certain of what to do now. Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 12:48, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

page canceled

Good morning, I created a page on Confassociazioni and it was immediately canceled, the code of the criterion for the cancellation is U5 so my voice was considered advertising, you know me explain why advertising and how can I do to create a voice that does not is it then deleted? thanks a lot — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lufant (talk • contribs) 09:21, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Lufant Good day. As per your contribution log, your question above is your first edit - see [2] and no evident found for any article for either "n Confassociations" or "Draft:Confassociations". If the tag was U5 - which means " Blatant misuse of Wikipedia as a web host". Please read WP:Your First Article on how to write a article in Wikipedia and pls write the content in neutral point of view. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 10:00, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Lufant, I have removed your duplication of your original question. Please take the advice given to you here. 331dot (talk) 12:21, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Lufant You have post the same question 3 times and we have already answered you question. Pls see the message above. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 13:36, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia entries for our record label and artists

Count Zero Records is a community-based record label that helps artists without means fulfill their vision by providing international sales & distribution, marketing, legal advice, contracting, facilities and management training to its artists.

We work on a purely percentage based system and do not charge any fees to our artists, instead, every artist receives a percentage of all net proceeds of every song they worked on - for example as singer, rapper, producer or songwriter.

This allows artists with no means or team to professionally produce and release music and content.

Our producers, legal experts, marketing specialists, etc. work only on a percentage basis, with no up-front fees, and actually, no fees at all.

That is because they believe in the artist they are working with.

In a sense, we are like angel investors, only that we invest our time, money and effort for the benefit of artists without means in the context of a record label.

We would now love to create wikipedia pages for our label and artists.

So we have tried to create articles ourselves, but have met with very little success, as we are totally unfamiliar with the Wikipedia writing and syntax.

We then wanted to hire someone, until we read that that is against the rules on wikipedia.

At this point we are a bit out of ideas, as none of us has enough computer skills to make wikipedia articles.

If any of you have any advice, it would be greatly appreciated.

You can find our label at http://www.countzerorecords.com

All the best,

Count Zero — Preceding unsigned comment added by MonteAltoVenture (talk • contribs) 09:41, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

@MonteAltoVenture: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You can request that others write about your artists at Requested Articles, but it won't happen quickly, and may not be in the manner that you want. I think that you misunderstand the purpose of Wikipedia. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a forum to merely tell about artists. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is interested in what independent reliable sources state about artists that meet Wikipedia's special definition of a notable artist, written at WP:ARTIST. Wikipedia is not interested in what the artist(or their representative) wants to say about themselves, nor is it interested in 'spreading the word' or otherwise publicizing artists. 331dot (talk) 09:49, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi there and thank you for your fast answer! We are immensely disappointed to hear that we have mistaken Wikipedias approach over the last few years and supported it. I think what we thought was that Wikipedia is a platform where people can add their knowledge to a database, irrespective of their technical skill or someone's judgment of what is "important" and what is "not important". The approach as an encyclopedia moderated by a small number of people who decide what constitutes knowledge is not only wrong but dangerous. We have canceled our support payments and will express our opinions about the totalitarization of this once great service accordingly. We wish you all the best and will no longer seek to create Wikipedia articles. Best regards, Count Zero Records. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MonteAltoVenture (talk • contribs) 10:54, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

@MonteAltoVenture: I'm sorry that you feel that way, but as I said, Wikipedia is not and never has been a place to merely give information. I would inform you that your donations(which I assume is what you mean by "payments") or lack thereof have no bearing on Wikipedia content, as the Foundation only operates the servers, it does not dictate what appears here. You are, of course, free to operate your own website, or find an alternative outlet where what you want to do is permitted. You are also free to work to change the definition of an notable artist, by starting a talk page discussion. 331dot (talk) 11:04, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

There is no "small number of people who decide." There is a policy of requiring reliable sources, i.e., published by credible publications. Wht editors know to be true is not sufficient. Independent from sourcing, Wikipedia had definitions of notability. David notMD (talk) 14:09, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Removing old content

Please can someone help to remove old content — Preceding unsigned comment added by John Bladen (talk • contribs) 14:17, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

What is the "old content" you are talking about? WikiSmartLife (talk) 15:08, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, John Bladen, and welcome to the Teahouse. I presume you're talking about your changes to Llanrumney Hall? I must confess that I don't quite understand what you were trying to achieve by those edits: you can't use #REDIRECT in that way, and I see no evidence that the name of Llanrumney Hall has been changed to drop the "Hall" (unlike, for instance, Nostell Priory, which the National Trust now call just "Nostell". Oops: that article hasn't been updated yet). It is part of the way Wikipedia works that sometimes somebody makes an edit, and somebody else reverts it. The thing to do then, according to the policy in BRD, is to open a discussion on the article's talk page (here, Talk:Llanrumney Hall), explaining what change you want to make, and getting consensus on it. But what I will say is that Wikipedia does not necessarily remove information just because it is outdated: this is an encyclopaedia, not a directory. Changes to a topic may be added to an article (preferably sourced to a reliable published source), but often it will be appropriate to keep the former information, marked as such. --ColinFine (talk) 16:54, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi

Someone help me please! I need help on Big Sand Reference! Hurricane Ducker (talk) 15:26, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

I've fixed it- unfortunately I can't tell anything else because Chrome is blocking the website. Do you use wikisource or Visual Editor? -A lad insane (Channel 2) 15:37, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Discover Cooking with Lavender

Helped
@Sam Sailor: Thank you for reviewing my article "Discover Cooking with Lavender". Please note that it meets this criteria:

"The book has been the subject of two or more non-trivial published works appearing in sources that are independent of the book itself. This includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries, bestseller lists, and reviews. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book."

Discover Cooking with Lavender is the subject of reviews in the Seattle Times and the Oregonian. It was also the subject of a review in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer and the Sequim Gazette. The Sequim Gazette is published by Sound Publishing, Inc., a subsidiary of Black Press. The United States Lavender Growers also presented Kathy Gehrt an award for her work and book. It was the "LIFT" Award, "Lavender Ideas for Tomorrow" and it was presented on March 26, 2014.

I've updated the article with this information and feel it is an appropriate listing for Wikipedia. Do you agree? (DashGraham (talk) 16:19, 29 June 2019 (UTC))

Thank you!

References

Hi @DashGraham: Your ping of Sam Sailor didn't go through because it wasn't formed correctly, so I've added that here moved your question to the article's talk page. Since this involves one particular article, the talk page of that article Draft Talk:Discover Cooking with Lavender is the best place discuss it, rather than here. I'm copying your question there, and adding some contents of my own. Orville1974^talk 16:48, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Adding a new page with updated information on a credit card

Helped
Hello,

I'm referring to this credit card for my question:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palladium_Card

As you can see from that page, that credit card has changed names to a new credit card called the J.P. Morgan Reserve Card.

Since the name of the card has changed could I make a new page with the updated name and card information? Or should I only update the information on the current page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.254.162.76 (talk) 16:33, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. I see you've edited the article, with a citation for the change. I have therefore moved the article to J.P. Morgan Reserve Card (you are not able to do this as an anynomous editor, though you could have requested it at WP:RM). The move has left behind Palladium Card as a redirect, which seems to me to be right. Since the article is now titled "J.P. Morgan Reserve Card", it probably needs some further editing of tense etc to make it accurate. --ColinFine (talk) 17:01, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. I will create an account with wikipedia and edit that page. I will remove any inaccurate information and add additional relevant information.

Hi! Please don't remove any content that could be historical. Instead, please provide updated content about the new card. For instance, the "J.P. Morgan Reserve Card, previously known as the Palladium Card" etc. Thank you! Orville1974^talk 17:08, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the guidance. I will not remove any historical information. The only editing I will do is update and add information that is relevant to the card. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.254.162.76 (talk) 17:30, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Creating a page for an artist but my own information came up as copyrighted

I am trying to create a new page for an artist my gallery represents but after submitting my writing it came up as copyrighted based off of the press release we used for one of his shows. how can I get around this copyright or cite myself to ensure the article gets published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mizumakipswada (talk • contribs) 18:09, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello @Mizumakipswada:, you can cite yourself and re-write the material so that you avoid copying or closely paraphasing the source. Because you are writing about an artist your gallery preperents you should review the plain and simple conflict of interest guide and follow the guidance there. Gab4gab (talk) 18:39, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Mizumakipswada. Gab4gab is right that you can get round the copyright issue by rewriting in your own words; but even if you do so, it is unlikely that anything from a press release will be appropriate for an article about your artist. Wikipedia is basically not interested in what you or your artist say or wish to say about him (including in an interview or press release) : it is only interested in what people who have no connection with the artist have chosen to publish about him in reliable places. Any article about him should be almost entirely based on such independent sources; and if there are few or no such published sources, then it is impossible to write an acceptable Wikipedia article about him at present: the jargon for that is that he is not notable. --ColinFine (talk) 19:07, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi I’ve been supporting wiki for decades and lost

My crews to login for a minor edit.

I’m a sysad circa 1993 can anyone help get my lankro account back to me the recovery email is ages old. I know bits (0/1) and bytes (FF).

Look for donations by christoper or chris parry.

I love you guys!

Getting over terrible cold, hope you guys can help.

-chris — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lankro2 (talk • contribs) 18:48, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Lankro2, and welcome to the Teahouse. The Lankro (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) account was created in 2009 (Wikipedia didn't exist in 1993) and doesn't appear to have ever been used to make an edit. I would suggest just using your new account if you want to start editing. Cordless Larry (talk) 18:55, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your donations, Chris, but they are handled by the Wikimedia Foundation, which supports Wikipedia and all the other projects. Wikipedia editors - even admins - have no access to any non-public information about donations or donors. --ColinFine (talk) 19:21, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

What makes someone anti-communist?

Hello TH!, my article Alejandro Finocchiaro was categorized as "Argentine anti-communists" for some remarks, what defines anti-communism, remarks or way of thinking? Thanks.

PS: Nothing against the user who added it, just confused whether it should be included. Regards. --LLcentury (talk) 20:55, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

LLcentury, as far as Wikipedia is concerned, someone is an anti-communist if reliable sources call them an anti-communist. In this case, it's probably due to his comments about the Cuban flag, although this is a somewhat WP:SYNTH justification and likely wouldn't hold up on its own if someone wanted to argue against it. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 21:02, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification, he, as the government of that country is clearly anti-communist though no official source supports it. I'll leave it as it is, as far as it doesn't damage the article :) . --LLcentury (talk) 21:09, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Are Popular YouTubers Considered Noteworthy

I am trying to ascertain if the YouTube channel ‘Delos’ is considered noteworthy. They are sailing around the world on their yacht (named Delos) and they are very inspiring and generous people. They have 336k subscribers and some of their most popular videos have had over a million views. I am an independent freelance writer and would be the one writing the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erinndave (talk • contribs) 22:26, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello and welcome Erinndave! YouTubers are considered notable if they have received significant, non-routine coverage in reliable sources for more than one event. If a YouTuber has not received significant, non-routine coverage in reliable sources for more than one event then they are not considered notable, even if they have 100,000,000 subscribers. Conversely, a YouTuber that only had 12 subscribers but had received significant, non-routine coverage in reliable sources for more than one event would be notable. From a very cursory Google News check it appears Delos has been broadly covered by Yachting World and the Wall Street Journal. If there are a couple more sources out there it is probably notable. Chetsford (talk) 22:59, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

No edit tabs

New user, made 6 contributions so far. But now many of the articles I wish to edit do not have Edit Source or edit links on the sections. None of them say they are locked from editing. What am I doing wrong? Thank you.--Daveler166 (talk) 22:33, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

@Daveler166: Welcome to Wikipedia!, It happened to me, I think you have to have more contributions, don't know how many more, maybe other user is able to tell you. But keep editing on articles you can and be sure you can count on the Tea House! Welcome again! --LLcentury (talk) 22:38, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Daveler166: Can you give us a few examples of where you're not seeing the tabs? The only articles I can think of where you should see that would be articles currently protected from editing, and there are not very many of those. Orville1974^talk 22:44, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) You will be able to edit semi-protected pages when you are autoconfirmed, which normally takes 10 edits and 4 days. In the meantime you can submit an edit request on the talk page of a protected page you want to edit. Eman235/talk 22:46, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

@Orville1974: I tried "Baseball", "Soka Gakkai" and "Beatles". If they are protected, would it say so somewhere on the page? Thanks again everyone. --Daveler166 (talk) 22:58, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

You should see a padlock icon, like this: in the top right corner of those articles, on the same line as the article title. (The icon seems to be missing from the mobile site, though.) Eman235/talk 23:18, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

And instead of the edit tab you should see a tab "view source". Click on it and you can see more information (and I guess there is also an auto-generated link that allows you to leave an Edit request on the talkpage) Jannik Schwaß (talk) 05:50, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

speedy deletion for my own writing called copyright infringement

Can you help me? My new Wikipedia page for my father, Patrick McArdle, was deleted before I could explain that I had written the bios for both linked galleries and in addition that I am the owner of the photograph. I have not created an article in several years and realize now that I should have done this in the sandbox as it was not complete (needed more sources)Also, how do I contact user Sphilbrick who deleted it to explain? Thanks in advance. Mildred Jirak (aka Deirdre McArdle)

Hello and welcome, MildredJirak! To you first question, if you are the owner of the text here [3] and would like to copy it verbatim into a Wikipedia article you will need to first release it by following the instructions at WP:CONSENT. Until you do that you'll probably find it will be repeatedly deleted regardless of any explanations. To your second question, to contact Sphilbrick click here and leave a message on their Talk page. Again, however, this does not remove your need to follow the instructions at CONSENT in order to have your content released to Wikipedia. Chetsford (talk) 23:05, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

But if you tried to make an article based just (or mainly) on that site, MildredJirak, I don't think it would be accepted, as the bulk of an article should be based on sources independent of the subject. --ColinFine (talk) 23:15, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your help. I will rewrite the text as you recommend. The article will be based on newspaper articles and reviews. Is it acceptable to include these links to current galleries, after I have rewritten my text, and the artist's website?MildredJirak (talk) 00:47, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, MildredJirak. If you can find sufficient independent sources to establish notability and make an article, then a link to the artist's website should definitely be included, but probably not to galleries - see external links for the policy. You still need to take note of the instructions on COI editing. --ColinFine (talk) 09:03, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

I'm happy to talk to you further if you want to contact me on my talk page , but I will have discouraging news. Chetsford Gave you good advice on the steps to take to solve copyright problem, but even if that problem is cured, that is the problem of whether the text you wrote was adequately supported by links to published, reliable sources. Perhaps it was, I've worked on a lot of copyright issues and honestly don't recall the one you mention, but if it did not contain links to reliable sources that will be a problem even if the copyright issue is resolved.S Philbrick(Talk) 01:44, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Uploading images

How do you add the official artwork for a song with fair usage? Billiekhalidfan (talk) 01:15, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Billiekhalidfan. Technically, it's relatively easy; you just follow the instructions given in Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. However, how the file is going to be able to be used depends upon it's copyright status. Since you've stated it's the official artwork (i.e. cover art) for a song, you're most likely going to need to upload the file as non-free content (this is sort of Wikipedia's version of fair use, but more restrictive). Non-free cover art files can be uploaded per item 1 of WP:NFCI, but generally this is only allowed when the file is being used for primary identification purposes at the top of or in the main infobox of a stand-alone article about the work (e.g. album, book, song) in question; other types of non-free use tend to be much harder to justify (see WP:NFC#cite_note-3). So, if you intend to use the file for primary identification purposes, just make sure when upload it that you add (1) a file copyright tag and (2) a non-free use rationale to the file's page, and then add the file to the article you want to use it in. For album/single cover art, the copyright tag Template:Non-free album cover and the non-free use rationale Template:Non-free use rationale album cover are often used; just complete the parameters of the non-free use rationale template as best as you can. It's important to make sure that the file has both a copyright license and a non-free use rationale because files missing one or the other are subject to speedy deletion. If you've any more specific questions, you can ask for help at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. If you read through everything and still don't feel comfortable trying to upload the file yourself, you can try Wikipedia:Files for upload. That page is geared more to users such as IP accounts which cannot upload files themselves, but someone might be willing to help you out. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:38, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Minimum age

Someone made this undo They dont say why. I don't see why. They can't say why? Why? -ApexUnderground (talk) 05:57, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

@ApexUnderground: Hi and welcome to the Teahouse! Another user will elaborate on this but for now see Talk:Minimum age. OkayKenG (talk) 06:33, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

That's where there's the "why" your edit was done OkayKenG (talk) 06:39, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Question about speedy deletion of a recent post

Hi, I am new to Wikipedia contribution and the first article created by me on O2Rise Packaged Mineral Water was nominatied for speedy deletion and subsequently deleted. I am unable to understand the reason for the same and would love any help I can get regarding the same. The article was written purely from my research that did involve talking to the owners of the company. However, I am in no way associated with the company or being compensated for the work done. It was made with the intention of information sharing of a company in a concentrated market space of Mumbai.

Please advise me on the same. Thank you. --ShipraBaxiEAO (talk) 07:16, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello ShipraBaxiEAO, welcome to Wikipedia! The deletion nomination and the deletion action both leave reasons for why that happened. For example, you have two separate messages on your talk page about what might have gone wrong. If you have no conflict of interest (see WP:COI) as they suspected you might have, just denying it is enough. But your content still needs to meet the neutral point of view criterion, See WP:NPOV. The other reason was lack of demonstrated notability. That means you failed to show in the article why the subject was important enough to deserve a page in wikipedia. See WP:GNG for what notability means here in Wikipedia. Also, original research can not be a basis for content on Wikipedia (See WP:OR), the information has to be independently verifiable (See WP:Verifiability). The way to achieve that is to cite your content with independent reliable sources (See WP:RS). I wouldn't usually drown you out in so many policies right at the outset but you say you are a curious learner, so I expect it will help rather than put you off. Good luck! Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 07:59, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Hi ShipraBaxiEAO, and welcome to the Teahouse. I can't see the article that was deleted, but the reasons were advertising style and questionable notability. I suppose it is difficult for a marketing person to write in an encyclopaedic rather than a marketing style, but the best process for writing a Wikipedia article is to forget what you already know, and ignore the website and publicity of the organisation you are writing about. You need to find independent WP:Reliable sources in which the subject has been written about in detail, and summarise in your own words what these sources say. Google doesn't find suitable sources for me, but perhaps that's because I live in a different country. Dbfirs 08:04, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

pseudonyms in citations

When citing a book, if it was published under a pseudonym ("A Virginian"), but you know the author's real name and want to include it, how is this best handled? Thank you. deisenbe (talk) 10:25, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

One way to do it could be to type the pseudonym, followed by the author's real name in brackets. For example Lemony Snicket (Daniel Handler). WikiSmartLife (talk) 12:02, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

The you know the author's real name bit could be potentially problematic, I reckon. Would need to be properly cited. Usedtobecool ^✉️ ✨ 12:10, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Previous Songs

If an artist released two singles on the same date, on the article of one of the singles do we put the other single released on the same date as the previous single or the next single, or neither? Billiekhalidfan (talk) 12:58, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Billiekhalidfan (talk · contribs) If you're asking about older formats (with an A and B side, like vinyl), then the A side was listed first and the B side second. If you're talking about digital releases, the Songs WikiProject is probably the best place to ask: WP:WikiProject Songs. The group of editors there is quite involved in music entries on Wikipedia and may already have come to a consensus on what should be done in that instance. Happy editing! Orville^talk 15:14, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

How do I find a list of all uses of an infobox template?

Helped

Specifically this one. I want to see the kind if articles it is used on currently before using it on another page. Cambial Yellowing(❧) 13:05, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Cambial Yellowing. Every page has a "What links here" link which you can find on the left hand tool bar in desktop view. Here is what links to it. I think your approach is a very sensible one: see how something is used elsewhere before deploying it yourself. Best wishes, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:15, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

That was fast! Thank you. Cambial Yellowing(❧) 13:28, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Naming the rose breeder

I am working on a draft on rose breeder, Tom Carruth. Most of the references list him as "Tom Carruth" and one reference lists him as "Thomas Carruth". I believe that anyone searching for info on Carruth would be using "Tom Carruth". When I finish my draft, should I create article "Tom Carruth" or "Thomas Carruth"? I know that I can create a redirect with the alternate name. thx MauraWen (talk) 15:39, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi @MauraWen: per WP:COMMONNAME you should use Tom Carruth. Additionally, as you've pointed out, a redirect from Thomas Carruth to Tom Carruth will help anyone looking for the full version of his name find the correct article. Orville^talk 15:46, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Dinawan Island

I edited the entry for Dinawan Island, and it was deleted for being "not constructive."

Here is the original entry, before editing: The Dinawan Island (Malay: Pulau Dinawan) is a Malaysian island located in the West Coast on the state of Sabah. It is located about 3.5 kilometres from Kimanis in the extension of the Kimanis River and about 20 kilometres on the southwest of Kota Kinabalu. It is 73 m high and surrounded by reefs and sandbanks.[1] The private owner operates a tourist resort on the island.[2]

I added this: The island was populated by natives prior to WWII. In WWII, Japanese forces slaughtered the entire male population of the island, while the women and children were forcibly moved elsewhere. <https://listverse.com/2015/11/16/10-horrific-atrocities-committed-by-japans-secret-police-in-world-war-ii/?utm_source=more&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=direct>

It was deleted for being "not constructive."

I re-posted, and added this: To the editors: The above entry was removed because it was deemed "not constructive." How is it not constructive? It constructs more of the history of the island. It adds to the sum of knowledge. It also explains why the island is now a private resort; because it was colonized and ethnically cleansed by the Japanese, who went on to lose WWII, and were forced to abandon the island. It is absolutely constructive. History is not always positive or "constructive;" it is sometimes horrible. But it is history, and fact...

Wikipedia wants facts, correct? Or do they want to construct a false version of history?

That was called "vandalism."

What is the deal folks? Are we building history one piece at a time or not? I'm honestly puzzled....