Talk:List of wars by death toll
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Geometric Mean
A lot of the averages in the Article, are the Arithmetic Mean, and not the Geometric Mean, and Geometric Mean is what the column header says, and so I was wondering whether there was any way that we could make sure that all of the averages are always the Geometric Mean, because we currently have mixed mixed averages, which make the comparisons less useful. Is there for example a way to get Wikipedia to calculate the Geometric Mean automatically? ŠotiBriti (talk) 21:52, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not familiar with any way of getting Wikipedia to calculate it automatically. But I have now fixed them all manually. - 173.171.160.127 (talk) 05:12, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
- OK, but some of them are quoted to 5 significant figures, which is inappropriate precision for what is a ballpark figure. 2 sig figs would do nicely. Also I've tidied up the layout of the first table a bit; the same needs to be done to the other tables.----Ehrenkater (talk) 14:02, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Ottoman wars in Europe
Even on your own pages you have criticism of that claim by only one professor. Should you be removing it?20:44, 12 October 2017 (UTC)198.24.6.220 (talk)
- The claim of 5.5 million casualties was made by a single professor,who has been described numerous times as pro-Turkish and has been accused of genocide denial.which makes it quite unreliable.Additionally his estimates do not include non-Ottoman casualties,so even by his claims the information presented is inaccurate and it's obvious it must be removed.Maybe somebody wants to make a more thorough analysis but seeing how we're not talking about a single war but a large number of them taking place in a stretch of several centuries,I'm not sure it's necessary for the list.
- Aspflcn (talk) 22:14, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
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Why was the Taiping Rebellion removed?
It was previously on this list. The most conservative figures for the death toll of Taiping are around 20 million (from the American consulate I believe) and estimates go as high as 80 million. The Wikipedia article on the Taiping Rebellion gives an estimate of 30 million so it should definitely be here and at least above WWI.
Figures of population decline in Qing in this period also suggest that currently accepted estimates might be too low, but that is a different discussion. Either way, there is no reason for it being removed. The Urge to Purge (talk) 17:43, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
If the range for the Taping rebellion is 20-30 million then how can the geometric mean be 45 million?
Israel Wars
this page is missing yom kippur war on the less than 25000 deaths section. also the reference for six days war (117) is about the kurdish conflict in iran that is irrelevant to the 1967 six days war between israel, egypt, syria and jordan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.192.229.140 (talk) 11:27, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
Franco-Prussian War is missing
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The Franco-Prussian war is missing from the the Modern section of the list of wars. Would be useful to see guidelines for how casualties are counted (sickness, death from wounds incurred in battle ...) Mheising8 (talk) 23:31, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. SITH (talk) 21:08, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War 144,000+ casualties should earn this war a place on the "list of wars by death toll" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mheising8 (talk • contribs) 01:04, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
- This request makes sense to me, but I'm not sure what all goes into the counts here, or why it might've been excluded from this list to begin with. I've requested assistance from the members of Wikiproject Military History. Thanks, ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 14:15, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
- Seems fair.Slatersteven (talk) 14:16, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Original Research in "Ancient Wars" Section
The "Ancient Wars" section lists almost no sources and some numbers are obviously wrong. Could anyone provide some information on where these data come from? Esiymbro (talk) 06:33, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
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Add:
Irish War of Independence: Death Toll: 2,014
Irish Civil War: Death Toll: 1,226 Nfitzm (talk) 22:51, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Jonesey95 (talk) 10:56, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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Expand list by including South Sudanese Civil War. 129.206.38.139 (talk) 13:47, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- Not done you need to provide a reliable source to go with it. Iggy (Swan) 18:27, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
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Add the Rwandan Genocide to the Modern Wars section (500,000 to 1,000,000 killed in 1994). 2600:1:9321:B2C8:395E:985D:7CA:8DA (talk) 21:03, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- Not done you need to provide a reliable source to go with it. Iggy (Swan) 18:27, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- I was able to find a reliable source that says 800,000, so I've gone ahead and added the Rwandan Genocide to the article, see Special:Diff/885226834. @Iggy the Swan: Since you originally declined this request, I'm pinging you to make sure that you don't have any objections now that I've added a reliable source along with it. Cheers and thanks for the request, 2600:1:9321:B2C8:395E:985D:7CA:8DA.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 19:39, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
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I would like to add notes to some of the nicknames of wars, namely WW1 and would like to add "The war to end all wars" Tsouke (talk) 15:58, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 17:29, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
chechen wars, yugoslav wars request!
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i believe a few wars haven't made the list and they should.. First Chechen War, 90.000+, 1994-1996, Russia vs either chechen republic of ichkeria or chechen rebels,... Second Chechen War, 90.000-230.000, 1999-2000 (however insurgencies across russia lasted until 2009),https://sites.tufts.edu/atrocityendings/2015/08/07/russia-1st-chechen-war/#Fatalities https://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/16/world/europe/chechen-official-puts-death-toll-for-2-wars-at-up-to-160000.html http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/First_Chechen_War many sources available and they all vary, but they were indeed huge wars..well above 25000.. must be added. croatian war of independance 25.000+, 1991-1995, croatia and allies vs republic of serb krajina and allies https://www.slobodnaevropa.org/a/hrvatska-ljutski-gubici/28976312.html https://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/hrvatska/koliko-je-ljudi-poginulo-u-domovinskom-ratu/197806/ second one only counts croatian deaths, its still higher than mentioned in the "modern wars under 25000" toll, but it was higher it even says so on the wiki page, kosovo war, 28.000+, 1998-1999, fr yugoslavia vs albanians and nato allies http://www.rts.rs/page/stories/sr/story/125/drustvo/209031/predstavljen-popis-zrtava-sukoba-na-kosovu.html < civilian deaths only https://www.vreme.com/arhiva_html/463/05.html also sources vary, but should be added it was also a big war!..... smaller wars: Turkish invasion of Cyprus - 12.200 says on the wiki, nato bombing of yugoslavia 5000+ also on wiki and http://www.hlc-rdc.org/?cat=282, ... Aleksa.glendza (talk) 22:11, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
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What happened to this article?
The wars should be ranked by death toll, not in chronological order. Entire point of this page is knowing quickly which were the deadliest wars in history.
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