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Bashar al-Assad in 2018
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Glossary

  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
  • Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage.
  • The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death.

All articles linked in the ITN template must pass our standards of review. They should be up-to-date, demonstrate relevance via good sourcing and have at least an acceptable quality.

Nomination steps

  • Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually – a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC).
  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
  • You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination.

The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

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Headers

  • When the article is ready, updated and there is consensus to post, you can mark the item as (Ready). Remove that wording if you feel the article fails any of these necessary criteria.
  • Admins should always separately verify whether these criteria are met before posting blurbs marked (Ready). For more guidance, check WP:ITN/A.
    • If satisfied, change the header to (Posted).
    • Where there is no consensus, or the article's quality remains poor, change the header to (Closed) or (Not posted).
    • Sometimes, editors ask to retract an already-posted nomination because of a fundamental error or because consensus changed. If you feel the community supports this, remove the item and mark the item as (Pulled).

Voicing an opinion on an item

Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.

Please do...

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Suggesting updates

There are two places where you can request corrections to posted items:

  • Anything that does not change the intent of the blurb (spelling, grammar, markup issues, updating death tolls etc.) should be discussed at WP:Errors.
  • Discuss major changes in the blurb's intent or very complex updates as part of the current ITNC nomination.

Suggestions

September 11

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Politics and elections

Science and technology

UK parliament prorogation ruled unlawful

Article: Prorogation in the United Kingdom (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Court of Session in Scotland rules that the prorogation of the UK parliament by Prime Minister Boris Johnson was unlawful (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Despite appearing to be legal arcana (which is why it is not appearing much in the news outside the UK), this is actually a highly significant event. The ultimate ruling will be made by the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom on 17 September, and that decision may be the one that is more suited to ITN, but am nominating this article and news item now for two reasons: (1) It is significant in itself (see Why the Scottish court ruling on proroguing Parliament is significant); and (2) Boris Johnson may be forced to recall parliament anyway to avoid being forced to later, so the ruling next week may not be in the news as much as the one this week. There may be other Brexit-related events coming up, so it is worth considering what the bar should be for an item to get a blurb (Brexit is currently in ongoing), possibly only whatever happens (or doesn't happen) on 31 October. Carcharoth (talk) 12:39, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait. The important decision will be by the Supreme Court on the combined cases next week (English judges came to the opposite conclusion in a parallel case). We didn't post the prorogation itself, and Brexit is already in the 'ongoing' section. Iff the Supreme Court rules that parliament must be recalled, this could be a significant constitutional event with long-term impact. But if they overrule the Scots court, it will just be a flash-in-the-pan news story. Modest Genius talk 12:54, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait. This is not the final word on the matter; if Parliament is actually ordered to be recalled, that would likely merit posting as Modest Genius notes. 331dot (talk) 12:55, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Brexit is already in the 'ongoing' section and every update/incident on brexit doesn't need a blurb, especially if the incident is not notable to have its own article. --DBigXray 12:59, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

RD: B. J. Habibie

Article: B. J. Habibie (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Former Indonesian president B. J. Habibie dies at the age of 83. (Post)
News source(s): KOMPAS
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former President of Indonesia. Article isn't updated at the time of this nom as death was like 10 minutes ago - this is preemptive. Note that article is a bit down on sources - will be updated soon. Juxlos (talk) 11:30, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

September 10

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Politics and elections

(Posted) Karbala stampede

Article: Karbala stampede (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 31 people are killed and more than 100 injured from a stampede during the celebration of Ashura at Karbala, Iraq. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Way too short right now, but will be trying to expand. Masem (t) 20:29, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

September 9

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime
  • 2019 Samoa assassination plot
    • Three suspects appear in court in Apia, Samoa, where two of them enter not-guilty pleas and the other a guilty plea on charges of conspiracy to assassinate the Prime Minister of Samoa. The defendant who pleaded guilty is due to be sentenced on September 30. (RNZ)

Politics and elections

RD: Robert Frank

Article: Robert Frank (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Acc. to BBC one of the most influential photographers of the 20th Century. C Class article with good sourcing.Some patches need work though. fixed. DBigXray 16:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed more than half a dozen sources have been added to fix the problem pointed above.--DBigXray 12:30, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Lawrie Creamer

Article: Lawrie Creamer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Dominion Post
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced. His death was announced on this date. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 09:02, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Marginal. Sca (talk) 15:20, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Danny Frawley

Article: Danny Frawley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): News Au
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article with good now excellent sourcing DBigXray 08:32, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have added the archive url for the dead source. Will work on improving the sourcing. --DBigXray 08:53, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed The sourcing issues have all been fixed. --DBigXray 15:32, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) War in Afghanistan (2001–present)

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Article: War in Afghanistan (2001–present) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Donald Trump calls off peace talks and canceled a meeting in Camp David with Taliban after a Taliban suicide bombing killing 11 people including a US Solider in Kabul (Post)
News source(s): CNN ,Fox News The Guardian
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Major news ,event and clearly crucial in the Afghan Civil War.Note the suicide bombing refered to is the September 2019 Kabul bombingsPharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:09, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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US Open

Article: 2019 US Open (tennis) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In tennis, Bianca Andreescu wins the Women's Singles and Rafael Nadal wins the Men's Singles of the US Open. (Post)
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: ITNR. Men's champion is currently being decided. Andreescu was also the first Canadian and first player born in the 2000s to win a grand slam, if we wanted to mention that. PlasmaTwa2 00:37, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

September 8

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Politics and elections

(Posted) RD: Ram Jethmalani

Article: Ram Jethmalani (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Times of India
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Indian minister , lawyer Ram Jethmalani has died. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 04:03, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User:Hurricane Noah your concern seems to be fixed already, please post on the article page if not.--DBigXray 05:45, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Spencer: The issues with regards to copy-editing stand fixed per my edits. With regards to the prose v. list, I am in favour of the former. The bulleted list does look quite off. Looking forward to hear from you, User:DBigXray. I say we go for the prose. --Tamravidhir (talk) 07:37, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed issues pointed by @Spencer: above. User:Tamravidhir please proceed and make the list prose.--DBigXray 07:41, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Camilo Sesto

Article: Camilo Sesto (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: One of the greatest ever singers in Spain. His death has been reported by news also in American continent (CNN, The New York Times, MSN, etc). Alsoriano97 (talk) 20:53, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Just got home from work. I will help on improving the article as well. Erick (talk) 22:21, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Chris Dobson

Article: Chris Dobson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Master of St John's College, Cambridge. Holds a Royal Society fellowship, Heineken Prize, and knighthood. The list of other acccolades may need pruning and/or prosing but is adequately sourced. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 16:47, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

September 7

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

RD: Robert Axelrod

Article: Robert Axelrod (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): THR
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Notable voice actor. Unfortunately on the short side and needs role sourcing. Masem (t) 21:37, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Oldest mother

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Article: Erramatti Mangamma (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Erramatti Mangamma becomes the world's oldest mother, giving birth at age 74 (Post)
News source(s): See article
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: The article is the update. Banedon (talk) 01:27, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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(Withdrawn) Papua protests: removal

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Article: 2019 Papua protests (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)
Nominator's comments: No significant updates to the article for the past 5 days. Most recent coverage in 2019_Papua_protests#September is from 2 Sept. SpencerT•C 23:36, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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(Ongoing) Amazon rainforest wildfires

Article: 2019 Amazon rainforest wildfires (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): Time CBS
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Wildfires continue to occur and the event continues to be major news in newspapers around the world. MSN12102001 (talk) 15:36, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Withdrawn) Hurricane Dorian

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Articles: Hurricane Dorian (talk · history · tag) and Effects of Hurricane Dorian in The Bahamas (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): bbc
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: we have a humanitarian crisis in the Bahamas with hundreds to thousands missing and possibly hundreds dead. Not to mention the hurricane force Canada landfall later today. I ask for ongoing since this will get dropped soon. NoahTalk 16:09, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. The extent of the devastation in Bahamas is only now becoming clear, and there will be an extended relief and recovery period. Effects of Hurricane Dorian in The Bahamas is a better target article, but I have no particular preference. It is still possible that the effects of Dorian on North Carolina will be significant. Plus the 'Alabama' controversy is refusing to die down. Nsk92 (talk) 16:19, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Nsk92: Plus Dorian is making landfall in Nova Scotia as either a hurricane or hurricane-force extra tropical storm. That’s partly why I added both articles. NoahTalk 16:33, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@RoyGoldsmith: The storm is going for ongoing due to the humanitarian crisis and is about to get bumped off ITN altogether. NoahTalk 13:47, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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September 6

Arts and culture

Disasters and accidents

Politics and elections

Science and technology

(Posted) RD: Chester Williams

Article: Chester Williams (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: I've added referencing for what's there so think this is OK to go. Currently start class.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:57, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Chandrayaan-2

Article: Chandrayaan-2 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Indian Space Research Organisation loses contact with Chandrayaan-2's Vikram lunar lander approximately 2.1 kilometres (1.3 mi) above the Moon's surface. (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: So we did post Beresheet when it failed to land on the moon earlier this year, so this would seem to be equivalent (note: not an ITNR, as was not Beresheet). Right now, we don't know the fate - they lose communications in the critical period when it was in the final decent and the expectation is that it crashed without the necessary control, but it could be a communications equipment failure they can't immediately resolve. Either way - successful or not -this would seem reasonable to post, but we may need to wait until the ISRO calls it. Masem (t) 22:36, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Chris Duncan

Article: Chris Duncan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): USA Today
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article. Needs someone familiar with baseball for cleanup/sourcing. DBigXray 05:20, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Abdul Qadir (cricketer)

Article: Abdul Qadir (cricketer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Pawnkingthree (talk) 17:54, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Carol Lynley

Article: Carol Lynley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times Variety
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article with good now excellent sourcing. Filmography needs work has been improved. Death announced on 6 September. DBigXray 13:59, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Death of Robert Mugabe

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Article: Robert Mugabe (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Robert Mugabe, the former President of Zimbabwe, dies at the age of 95. (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

 SounderBruce 05:12, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

September 5

Armed conflict and attacks

Business and economy
Disasters and accidents
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(Posted) RD: Francisco Toledo

Article: Francisco Toledo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/06/arts/design/francisco-toledo-dead.html
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Celebrated Mexican artist, died on Thursday, with high-profile coverage of his death in Mexican & U.S. news media Valley17 (talk) 22:37, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Hurricane Noah: I've fixed the existing sourcing issues and expanded the page throughout to include more about his career, hopefully this helps it meet the standard for ITN Valley17 (talk) 01:58, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support now as it looks much better. NoahTalk 02:10, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Citations for the lede have been added Valley17 (talk) 19:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support - good work, thanks.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:55, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) RD: Abid Ali (actor)

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Article: Abid Ali (actor) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: You are welcome to cut the un-referenced selected television & filmography if that happens to be the only thing preventing this from getting posted. Solo Samaritan (talk) 11:39, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Unfortunately, it's not just unreferenced sections, but the lack of depth of coverage into Ali's career that will also prevent this from being posted. Needs more prose expansion. SpencerT•C 22:06, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) RD: Chris March

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Article: Chris March (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): THR
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Fashion design that gained fame from being on Project Runway. On the short side but at least mostly sourced. Masem (t) 06:41, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Kiran Nagarkar

Article: Kiran Nagarkar (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article with excellent sourcing. DBigXray 14:08, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Great Oxidation Event

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Article: Great Oxidation Event (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Almost 100% of all life on Earth was wiped out 2 billion years ago (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:

Article updated
 Count Iblis (talk) 11:40, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Hurricane Dorian

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Article: Hurricane Dorian (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): nbc NHC
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Hurricane Dorian has been impacting several different regions and is likely to be a significant storm for several more days as it moves up the coast. As a result, I would like to request this be moved to the ongoing section. NoahTalk 02:14, 5 September 2019 (UTC)±[reply]
It will likely be rolled off or expire and be removed (one week = rolled off) while still significant. I don't think an actual blurb can adequately summarize all that has happened and will happen since this is a significant storm in many ways. The impacted area of this storm is simply huge and too much to really discuss in a blurb. This has a decent chance to make landfall in Canada as a hurricane (if not that then as a hurricane-force extratropical system). Even if it doesn't, it will still bring hurricane and TS winds to most or all of the eastern coast for multiple days. The main issue I see here is this is an ongoing event rather than something that is done and over with. This is unusual in the regard that most hurricanes only get blurbs once they are dissipated. The fact this is and will have a significant impact for several days is why I am requesting the move to ongoing. NoahTalk 02:34, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Iff it makes landfall into Canada, we can IAR and manually push the blurb date up. What is important is that we rarely keep natural disasters in the ongoing as the coverage of the disaster recovery can take weeks to years. --Masem (t) 02:46, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The article simply needs to be kept up to date in order for it to remain on the ongoing. It will likely not remain updated for weeks. Once the updating and news coverage dies down, it could be removed. The issue I have is the storm requiring multiple blurbs and constant updating as it causes damage in new areas. There is already a significant list of impacted areas. NoahTalk 02:50, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
A detailed listing of impacted areas in the blurb would be inappropriate. Perhaps wording such as "the Caribbean and the eastern coast of the United States" would be better and more stable. HiLo48 (talk) 02:59, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
First, the next 24hr will tell us if we need to update the blurb for the US to see how it scraps the coast and damage it did. (It scraped Florida and did nearly nothing to be reported -- hopefully that will be the same in the Carolinas. But if it did, we'd update the current blurb and likely move it up to 9/5. Then, if the storm continued and landfell in Canada (a rarity) and did significant damage, we can update yet again. But after the storm disappaites to a tropical storm or less, we no longer consider that in the news, even though we know in newspapers they will be covering the damage for weeks. In other words, we don't put things like hurricans to ongoing, but simply update and re-stamp the blurb. --Masem (t) 03:04, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I am aware, we have had multiple deaths in both of those states. We did post Cyclone Idai to ongoing earlier this year, so such a thing has been done in the past. If not, a more stable wording would be required. NoahTalk 03:08, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Two dudes accidentally fell off ladders before the storm. That's not natural disaster impact. Just bad luck, gravity and maybe dizziness. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:52, September 5, 2019 (UTC)
Let us see how much damage Hurricane Dorian will do in the USA and maybe but unlikely Canada. As per above, two people falling off ladders is not a result of the hurricane. -- BoothSift 06:23, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
When Idai fell off the topic list, it was made ongoing because there was still a huge humanitarian crisis, at that point, 15,000 still missing and rising flood waters. Now, I'm not saying that we're not going to have potential issues in the States, but I've never seen a hurricane cost that many lives in a first world country. I'm not saying it can't get worse, but that's why it is better to wait to see if the storm is still threatening in the next day or so, as right now, it is not in any danger of being stale from ITN. --Masem (t) 04:19, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Conte Cabinet

Article: Conte II Cabinet (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte forms a new government. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Following Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte's resignation on 20 August, Conte forms a new government and is reappointed as Prime Minister.
News source(s): (The Guardian), BBC, AP
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Nominator's comments: We passed over all the other stuff about Conte being outed. I think we should at least put the end note of the current crisis in. I have no faith that this will last until Christmas, but that would be WP:CrystalRockphed (talk) 12:22, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, they swapped a center/center right coalition for a center/center left/left wing coalition. I feel like some of that should be in the blurb, but I couldn't think of any way to elegantly state it. Rockphed (talk) 12:41, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Not so at this point, but I'd rather see Eng.-lang. references than Italian, this being the English-language Wiki. There are plenty of sources in English. – Sca (talk) 14:46, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Getting stale. – Sca (talk) 15:01, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, too late now. But note that today is the day the government should be confirmed in the Parliament, so it could still count as recent. However thanks for your suggestions, I added more English-language sources. --Ritchie92 (talk) 13:30, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I imagine parliamentary confirmation will be a procedural footnote. Too bad, as politically this coalition was quite significant. – Sca (talk) 15:53, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It is more recent than Hurricane Dorian and the boat fire.Rockphed (talk) 19:32, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't make it fresh. – Sca (talk) 20:22, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – But hey, maybe this does: "Italy's Conte pledges new start, wins confidence vote in parliament." Story quotes him promising "a new era of reforms" and to work constructively with the European Union. If we had a good update, I'd support. – Sca (talk) 20:41, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Tomorrow there is the final vote in the Senate (today it won the support of the lower house already), so that might be a good occasion because it will be officially in full power. --Ritchie92 (talk) 23:11, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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(Posted) RD: Roger Etchegaray

Article: Roger Etchegaray (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): La Croix
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Start Class article with good sourcing DBigXray 14:28, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Fixed Bmclaughlin9 has done some great work in sourcing this article. The Rambling Man requesting a fresh review.--DBigXray 14:09, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks User:Stephen can someone post the credits? --DBigXray 03:52, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
 Done by Stephen.--DBigXray 05:52, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) RD: Blanca Fernández Ochoa

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Article: Blanca Fernández Ochoa (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
 The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 06:01, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) RD: Peter Ellis

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Article: Peter Ellis (childcare worker) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): "Convicted Civic Creche sex abuser Peter Ellis dies while appealing conviction". Stuff.co.nz. 4 September 2019. Retrieved 4 September 2019.
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: New Zealand's most high-profile case for a suspected wrongful conviction Schwede66 19:24, 4 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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