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September 11
September 11, 2019
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UK parliament prorogation ruled unlawful
Blurb: The Court of Session in Scotland rules that the prorogation of the UK parliament by Prime Minister Boris Johnson was unlawful (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:
- Nominated by Carcharoth (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Nominator's comments: Despite appearing to be legal arcana (which is why it is not appearing much in the news outside the UK), this is actually a highly significant event. The ultimate ruling will be made by the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom on 17 September, and that decision may be the one that is more suited to ITN, but am nominating this article and news item now for two reasons: (1) It is significant in itself (see Why the Scottish court ruling on proroguing Parliament is significant); and (2) Boris Johnson may be forced to recall parliament anyway to avoid being forced to later, so the ruling next week may not be in the news as much as the one this week. There may be other Brexit-related events coming up, so it is worth considering what the bar should be for an item to get a blurb (Brexit is currently in ongoing), possibly only whatever happens (or doesn't happen) on 31 October. Carcharoth (talk) 12:39, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Wait. The important decision will be by the Supreme Court on the combined cases next week (English judges came to the opposite conclusion in a parallel case). We didn't post the prorogation itself, and Brexit is already in the 'ongoing' section. Iff the Supreme Court rules that parliament must be recalled, this could be a significant constitutional event with long-term impact. But if they overrule the Scots court, it will just be a flash-in-the-pan news story. Modest Genius talk 12:54, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Wait. This is not the final word on the matter; if Parliament is actually ordered to be recalled, that would likely merit posting as Modest Genius notes. 331dot (talk) 12:55, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Brexit is already in the 'ongoing' section and every update/incident on brexit doesn't need a blurb, especially if the incident is not notable to have its own article. --DBigXrayᗙ 12:59, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
RD: B. J. Habibie
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb: Former Indonesian president B. J. Habibie dies at the age of 83. (Post)
News source(s): KOMPAS
Credits:
- Nominated by Juxlos (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Former President of Indonesia. Article isn't updated at the time of this nom as death was like 10 minutes ago - this is preemptive. Note that article is a bit down on sources - will be updated soon. Juxlos (talk) 11:30, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Note: Blurb added, pending updates. —Angga (formerly Angga1061) 13:01, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
September 10
September 10, 2019
(Tuesday)
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(Posted) Karbala stampede
Blurb: At least 31 people are killed and more than 100 injured from a stampede during the celebration of Ashura at Karbala, Iraq. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)
- Created by Another Believer (talk · give credit)
Nominator's comments: Way too short right now, but will be trying to expand. Masem (t) 20:29, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support on notability due to the devastating loss of life, and the article has no major quality concerns other than being short at the moment (the material that is available is well-sourced) Vanilla Wizard 💙 21:38, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment I've expanded it as best as I could from available sourcing right now. Also, could use some expert eyes on the Islamic culture as I've seen at least 3 different variations for how Husayn ibn Ali is referred to. --Masem (t) 21:47, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- Weak Support Subject likely meets our customary standards for a blurb and the article looks adequate, if not great. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:12, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support. Well referenced. Great work Masem. Ready to go. MSN12102001 (talk) 23:23, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support - refs looks good. Good to go.BabbaQ (talk) 23:29, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose doesn't seem to be generating much news coverage. From what I'm seeing the most headlines are about Trump firing John Bolton, US extraction of a Russian spy, etc. This item is there if I search for it, but it's being drowned out otherwise. Banedon (talk) 02:13, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- ITN does not consider the relative weight of coverage of a story to others, as long as it is getting coverage. --Masem (t) 02:23, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Is that what the significance criterion says now? Banedon (talk) 03:16, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Being covered in the news is one of the criterion factor. But that does not assure inclusion because we are not a news ticker. It's why we rarely cover the antics happening in US politics despite that that news coverage may dominate the news, while we will generally focus on major disasters which have lasting impact. --Masem (t) 03:20, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Well, the fact that this item is being drowned out by other items is an indication that it's not very significant (or has lasting impact, or is very interesting, etc), so I remain opposed. If anything if we believe the support votes right now who have touched on significance, it's past time to resurrect WP:MINIMUMDEATHS. Banedon (talk) 03:25, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Banedon: You have to realize that this happened in Iraq, not in Europe or the USA. Therefore, coverage would not be as great considering that you may come from a western country. -- BoothSift 05:19, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Boothsift: I also see a lot of headlines from the Hong Kong protests, plus headlines from Shinzo Abe's new cabinet. Neither of these places are in the Europe or the USA, invalidating that argument. Banedon (talk) 10:00, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Banedon: You have to realize that this happened in Iraq, not in Europe or the USA. Therefore, coverage would not be as great considering that you may come from a western country. -- BoothSift 05:19, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Well, the fact that this item is being drowned out by other items is an indication that it's not very significant (or has lasting impact, or is very interesting, etc), so I remain opposed. If anything if we believe the support votes right now who have touched on significance, it's past time to resurrect WP:MINIMUMDEATHS. Banedon (talk) 03:25, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Being covered in the news is one of the criterion factor. But that does not assure inclusion because we are not a news ticker. It's why we rarely cover the antics happening in US politics despite that that news coverage may dominate the news, while we will generally focus on major disasters which have lasting impact. --Masem (t) 03:20, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Is that what the significance criterion says now? Banedon (talk) 03:16, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- ITN does not consider the relative weight of coverage of a story to others, as long as it is getting coverage. --Masem (t) 02:23, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support Large death toll, article quality is fine. Hrodvarsson (talk) 02:59, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Posted SpencerT•C 04:27, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Post-posting support, covered by Al-Jazeera, the BBC, The New York Times, DAWN, Sky, CNN, NPR, CBC, Evening Standard, Irish Times, The Independent, Xinhua, Fox News etc etc, that covers practically all the English-speaking globe and much more. Article is fine and well-expanded from when it was nominated. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 10:07, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
September 9
September 9, 2019
(Monday)
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RD: Robert Frank
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by DBigXray (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Acc. to BBC one of the most influential photographers of the 20th Century. C Class article with good sourcing.Some patches need work though. fixed. DBigXrayᗙ 16:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose the article is in good condition but there are at least half a dozen unreferenced statements/paras in there which need fixing. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 07:33, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- Fixed more than half a dozen sources have been added to fix the problem pointed above.--DBigXrayᗙ 12:30, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Lawrie Creamer
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Dominion Post
Credits:
- Nominated by TDKR Chicago 101 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced. His death was announced on this date. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 09:02, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Doesn’t seem to be in the news. Stephen 10:34, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support Death is reported in the newspaper of the country's capital, references seem in order by spot check, incredible example of Nominative determinism. Let's get this on the front page.130.233.2.183 (talk) 11:03, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support Article quality looks fine. --Jayron32 14:26, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support I know where Stephen is coming from, it's not massively reporting in mainstream news at all, but I guess we ought not to bias against poor old NZ. Article is good to go, and thanks to the IP for nominative determinism, I now realise that's why I'm called The Rambling Man. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 17:01, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Posted. Doesn't really matter whether it's in the news or not, does it, because the rules for RD are simply that the person is notable. — Amakuru (talk) 20:51, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Marginal. Sca (talk) 15:20, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Danny Frawley
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): News Au
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by DBigXray (talk · give credit)
- Updated by The-Pope (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Start Class article with good now excellent sourcing DBigXrayᗙ 08:32, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
Opposepoorly sourced, and (for example) "Football career" section is entirely referenced by a single dead source. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:50, 9 September 2019 (UTC)- Support good work. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 16:15, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- I have added the archive url for the dead source. Will work on improving the sourcing. --DBigXrayᗙ 08:53, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Fixed The sourcing issues have all been fixed. --DBigXrayᗙ 15:32, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support. Good to go. — Amakuru (talk) 20:56, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 01:06, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- Good work on Spud's article guys. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:41, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
(Closed) War in Afghanistan (2001–present)
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Blurb: Donald Trump calls off peace talks and canceled a meeting in Camp David with Taliban after a Taliban suicide bombing killing 11 people including a US Solider in Kabul (Post)
News source(s): CNN ,Fox News The Guardian
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
- Oppose Minor roadbump in this thing. There's questions if there was actually ever going to be a meeting (as this came out of nowhere), and it wasn't like a meeting to make peace from what is implied. The attack is standard for the area. --Masem (t) 05:16, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Hypothetical meeting does not occur just can't be news130.233.2.183 (talk) 08:28, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose no meeting happened here. --DBigXrayᗙ 08:40, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose the status quo remains unchanged. Nothing to see here. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:50, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose and suggest speedy close. 'Meeting doesn't happen' does not reach ITN levels of significance, and there's nothing in the article about this minor development. Modest Genius talk 10:24, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - Although the Orange One would love for us to believe otherwise, merely appearing to be on the path -- if only very briefly -- to doing something notable does not actually equal doing something notable.--WaltCip (talk) 12:24, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
US Open
Blurb: In tennis, Bianca Andreescu wins the Women's Singles and Rafael Nadal wins the Men's Singles of the US Open. (Post)
Credits:
- Nominated by Plasma Twa 2 (talk · give credit)
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: ITNR. Men's champion is currently being decided. Andreescu was also the first Canadian and first player born in the 2000s to win a grand slam, if we wanted to mention that. PlasmaTwa2 00:37, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Needs more citations and more prose. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:26, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose per Muboshgu. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:51, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Not ready. The article is just a massive dump of data tables with very little prose, and what's there is poorly referenced. The same is true of the related articles on the mens' and womens' singles. This seems to be a recurrent problem with tennis nominations. There needs to be a fully-referenced prose summary of the tournament before we can consider posting this. Modest Genius talk 10:28, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
September 8
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(Posted) RD: Ram Jethmalani
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Times of India
Credits:
- Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)
- Updated by DBigXray (talk · give credit) and Tamravidhir (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Former Indian minister , lawyer Ram Jethmalani has died. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 04:03, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment: He's still incumbent even though he died? NoahTalk 04:35, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- User:Hurricane Noah your concern seems to be fixed already, please post on the article page if not.--DBigXrayᗙ 05:45, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support I have fixed the referencing issues and added myself to the nomination. --DBigXrayᗙ 05:45, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support I Agree to nominate it. Abishe 06:19, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support - and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 08:20, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment: Needs copyediting. "Jethmalani was married at an age of little above 18...", "...with a first class first at the young age of 17", "He was also a member of International Bar Association 1996", etc. Not thrilled with the bulleted list in the middle, but I'm not sure if there's a better way to have that in the article. SpencerT•C 03:44, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Spencer: The issues with regards to copy-editing stand fixed per my edits. With regards to the prose v. list, I am in favour of the former. The bulleted list does look quite off. Looking forward to hear from you, User:DBigXray. I say we go for the prose. --Tamravidhir (talk) 07:37, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Fixed issues pointed by @Spencer: above. User:Tamravidhir please proceed and make the list prose.--DBigXrayᗙ 07:41, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Spencer: The issues with regards to copy-editing stand fixed per my edits. With regards to the prose v. list, I am in favour of the former. The bulleted list does look quite off. Looking forward to hear from you, User:DBigXray. I say we go for the prose. --Tamravidhir (talk) 07:37, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support Issues pointed out byUser:Spencer stand resolved. The list has also been converted to prose. The article appears ready to be on the main page. --Tamravidhir (talk) 08:00, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Weak support horrendous reference placement and use of semi-colons, but nothing major standing in the way, marked as good to go. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:54, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Still ready eight hours later. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 17:01, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Still ready, eleven hours later. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 20:46, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Still ready eight hours later. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 17:01, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Posted — Amakuru (talk) 20:53, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
RD: Camilo Sesto
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:
- Nominated by Alsoriano97 (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: One of the greatest ever singers in Spain. His death has been reported by news also in American continent (CNN, The New York Times, MSN, etc). Alsoriano97 (talk) 20:53, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
Comment Just got home from work. I will help on improving the article as well. Erick (talk) 22:21, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose sources required. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:55, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Sources required? Check better the article and you will see it's very well referenced.Alsoriano97 (talk) 16:47, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- A cursory look shows a lot of Youtube videos and a homemade presentation on Prezi among the sources cited in the article; not sure if that's what TRM is referring to, but is something that could use some attention in the article. SpencerT•C 18:19, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- I'm still working on the article, but I don't have the time today to continue. I'll either do it tomorrow or Thursday as I'm off work that day. Erick (talk) 03:48, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
- A cursory look shows a lot of Youtube videos and a homemade presentation on Prezi among the sources cited in the article; not sure if that's what TRM is referring to, but is something that could use some attention in the article. SpencerT•C 18:19, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Sources required? Check better the article and you will see it's very well referenced.Alsoriano97 (talk) 16:47, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Chris Dobson
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:
- Nominated by FoxyGrampa75 (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Master of St John's College, Cambridge. Holds a Royal Society fellowship, Heineken Prize, and knighthood. The list of other acccolades may need pruning and/or prosing but is adequately sourced. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 16:47, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support article is satisfactory. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 17:03, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support article is satisfactory. — Amakuru (talk) 20:58, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 01:07, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
September 7
September 7, 2019
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RD: Robert Axelrod
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): THR
Credits:
- Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Notable voice actor. Unfortunately on the short side and needs role sourcing. Masem (t) 21:37, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose tables and lists unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:55, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose – A stub and a table. – Sca (talk) 13:23, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
(Closed) Oldest mother
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Blurb: Erramatti Mangamma becomes the world's oldest mother, giving birth at age 74 (Post)
News source(s): See article
Credits:
- Nominated by Banedon (talk · give credit)
- Created by Abishe (talk · give credit)
Article updated
- Oppose, but this is clearly a potential DYK if the article can get to length. --Masem (t) 01:29, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment the blurb needs to be modified in that there are still mothers at 74 alive. She is the oldest at 74 to give birth though. Sir Joseph (talk) 01:56, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose per Masem. Would work as a "Did you know", though. Otherwise it's not newsworthy. -- Rockstonetalk to me! 02:40, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose per Masem. Hrodvarsson (talk) 03:19, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose certainly interesting, but it's best suited for the DYK section per the above comments. Vanilla Wizard 💙 03:41, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment I thank for nominating this article. But I also feel that the article can be nominated to DYK instead of ITN section as what above users ponder. Abishe 05:56, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose This is unfortunately trivia in all respects. No significance; zero impact. – Ammarpad (talk) 06:04, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - enough for inclusion but not at ITN.BabbaQ (talk) 08:21, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
(Withdrawn) Papua protests: removal
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Nominator's comments: No significant updates to the article for the past 5 days. Most recent coverage in 2019_Papua_protests#September is from 2 Sept. SpencerT•C 23:36, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support. Per above. MSN12102001 (talk) 23:46, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment While the article could use some updates at this time, a quick search for news on the protests shows that a lot of developments have occurred which should be added to the article. I'll try my best to add some new information today. Vanilla Wizard 💙 00:08, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose for now Per Vanilla, the article certainly needs some updating. -- BoothSift 17:59, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose for now - since my most recent comment here, myself and others have added some more information about the events that took place on the 4th and 5th of September. If it goes an extended period of time without updates again, then we can remove it, but I would be surprised if new sources stop coming out; the situation has only been escalating due to Indonesia's increasingly militant approach to the situation, so it's probable that we'll have more information to add before it gets stale. Vanilla Wizard 💙 02:22, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the update, and sounds fair. Withdrawing. SpencerT•C 03:39, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
(Ongoing) Amazon rainforest wildfires
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): Time CBS
Credits:
- Nominated by MSN12102001 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Nominator's comments: Wildfires continue to occur and the event continues to be major news in newspapers around the world. MSN12102001 (talk) 15:36, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Weak oppose I know as I've been a major editor on that article that there's no much updating going on. They are still going on, yes, but it was a couple weeks of intensive coverage right before G7 and at this point, attention has died down. (A fact to keep in mind is that these fires happen every year, it was the major uptick this year that drew eyes). --Masem (t) 16:19, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose per Masem. Ongoing is for events that are heavily in the news, and facing fresh updates on a regular basis. This was big headlines a couple of weeks ago, mainly because of the unexpectedly high count, but it's now back to the normal coverage you'd expect in this season. — Amakuru (talk) 22:23, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose If we place it in the "Ongoing events" we'll have to place it every single year since every single year there are wildfires in Amazon.--SirEdimon (talk) 00:20, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support per above. 95.93.184.195 (talk) 18:02, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support It is still main news in Brazil and appears every day in newspapers around the world. 87.196.72.116 (talk) 21:05, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
(Withdrawn) Hurricane Dorian
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Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): bbc
Credits:
- Nominated by Hurricane Noah (talk · give credit)
Article updated
- Support on the humanitarian crisis in the Bahamas. (Note, I did suggest Noah to renom now with Dorian about to fall off). --Masem (t) 16:19, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support. The extent of the devastation in Bahamas is only now becoming clear, and there will be an extended relief and recovery period. Effects of Hurricane Dorian in The Bahamas is a better target article, but I have no particular preference. It is still possible that the effects of Dorian on North Carolina will be significant. Plus the 'Alabama' controversy is refusing to die down. Nsk92 (talk) 16:19, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Nsk92: Plus Dorian is making landfall in Nova Scotia as either a hurricane or hurricane-force extra tropical storm. That’s partly why I added both articles. NoahTalk 16:33, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support but maybe we should change the text. Something like: Hurricane Dorian continues to make landfall in North Carolina and Nova Scotia, as well as the unimaginable destruction and deaths in the Bahamas. --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 10:50, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- @RoyGoldsmith: The storm is going for ongoing due to the humanitarian crisis and is about to get bumped off ITN altogether. NoahTalk 13:47, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
September 6
September 6, 2019
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(Posted) RD: Chester Williams
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Amakuru (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: I've added referencing for what's there so think this is OK to go. Currently start class. — Amakuru (talk) 07:57, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support looks good enough. – Ammarpad (talk) 06:08, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support Article is good shape. – LefcentrerightTalk 08:57, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support - and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 09:10, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support per above. MSN12102001 (talk) 18:22, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 00:52, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
(Posted) Chandrayaan-2
Blurb: The Indian Space Research Organisation loses contact with Chandrayaan-2's Vikram lunar lander approximately 2.1 kilometres (1.3 mi) above the Moon's surface. (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:
- Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)
Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: So we did post Beresheet when it failed to land on the moon earlier this year, so this would seem to be equivalent (note: not an ITNR, as was not Beresheet). Right now, we don't know the fate - they lose communications in the critical period when it was in the final decent and the expectation is that it crashed without the necessary control, but it could be a communications equipment failure they can't immediately resolve. Either way - successful or not -this would seem reasonable to post, but we may need to wait until the ISRO calls it. Masem (t) 22:36, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- This is ITNR because it reached its destination(if unsuccessfully, it seems). 331dot (talk) 22:56, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- We had that question at Beresheet - it was ultimately marked NOT ITNR when archived, hence why I left it off here. Regardless still think it is valid to post as a non-ITNR on its own. --Masem (t) 22:59, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support pending update to the body of the article (not just introduction). While not the result that the Indian space program was looking for, the mission is an important step in Indian space capabilities. Article overall is in solid condition and is well-referenced. SpencerT•C 23:50, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support – We have an update to the body completed. There are some minor {{cn}} but this is not a BLP. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 06:23, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Was just coming to add that I fleshed out the body and also added some reaction/importance of the mission too. --Masem (t) 06:24, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment why is this marked as ITNR? I thought it was a lunar lander, not a lunar probe? It didn't reach its destination. Which clause of ITNR covers this? The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 06:43, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
Arrival of probes (to lunar orbit and beyond) at their destinations
. Success or failure, it has arrived. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 07:06, 7 September 2019 (UTC)- As I said, it's not a probe, it's a lunar lander. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 07:16, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Well, it was not designed to be a probe at least..Anyways, if I had to guess on interpreting that section of ITNR, I would say that a soft-landing would be rarer/harder than a hard landing, so the intent was to include both impacters and landers with that bullet point. I'm assuming 'arrival' didn't intend to mean 'probably crash land', but that's my take on the ITNR portion of this. Kees08 (Talk) 07:30, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- The orbiter reached its destination, and is apparently still functional. TompaDompa (talk) 08:21, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Well, it was not designed to be a probe at least..Anyways, if I had to guess on interpreting that section of ITNR, I would say that a soft-landing would be rarer/harder than a hard landing, so the intent was to include both impacters and landers with that bullet point. I'm assuming 'arrival' didn't intend to mean 'probably crash land', but that's my take on the ITNR portion of this. Kees08 (Talk) 07:30, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- As I said, it's not a probe, it's a lunar lander. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 07:16, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support after an official statement comes out on the likely outcome of the mission (it probably crashed, but we can hold out hope). An alt blurb would be needed in that case. If they take a couple days to publicly state the outcome of the mission my mind can be changed to the current blurb. Kees08 (Talk) 07:32, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- This is not ITNR as that covers only "lunar probes." I've removed the tag, though that does not mean this cannot be posted, just it's not ITNR – Ammarpad (talk) 07:35, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- I have proposed specifically adding landers and artificial impactors to ITN/R. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 08:07, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- The orbiter would presumably still count as a lunar probe. TompaDompa (talk) 08:24, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- The lander was not just supposed to land and be done with it. It was going to deploy a rover and take scientific measurements. That, combined with the vehicle itself, would seem to meet the definition of a probe and as such I still contend this is ITNR. 331dot (talk) 10:46, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support per above MSN12102001 (talk) 12:28, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support per above - Sherenk1 (talk) 14:14, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Posted — Amakuru (talk) 14:49, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Chris Duncan
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): USA Today
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by DBigXray (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: Start Class article. Needs someone familiar with baseball for cleanup/sourcing. DBigXrayᗙ 05:20, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- It needs more sourcing. I'll try to work on it through tomorrow. – Muboshgu (talk) 06:23, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose half of it unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 06:41, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- The Rambling Man, it's all sourced now. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:17, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 22:08, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Abdul Qadir (cricketer)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): AP
Credits:
- Nominated by Pawnkingthree (talk · give credit)
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Pawnkingthree (talk) 17:54, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 06:41, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support Article looks good. Let's go! HiLo48 (talk) 06:49, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Posted to RD. — Amakuru (talk) 07:21, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Carol Lynley
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times Variety
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by DBigXray (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Start Class article with good now excellent sourcing. Filmography needs work has been improved. Death announced on 6 September. DBigXrayᗙ 13:59, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
Opposetoo much unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 16:58, 6 September 2019 (UTC)- Support great work. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 16:13, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
OpposeFails MOS:INTRO with sparse, one-sentence lead.—Bagumba (talk) 07:26, 7 September 2019 (UTC)- Withdrawing oppose based on updates (no time for further review).—Bagumba (talk) 14:19, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Fixed Extensive work has been done on the article to fix all the issues. Please review again if it is now ready to post. ping. The Rambling Man, Bagumba --DBigXrayᗙ 10:56, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support - good job DBigXray, article is fixed now. starship.paint (talk) 02:56, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- Posted by User:Stephen as discussed here. Can someone post the credits. thanks.--DBigXrayᗙ 10:38, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
- Credit given. starship.paint (talk) 10:52, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
(Posted) Death of Robert Mugabe
Blurb: Robert Mugabe, the former President of Zimbabwe, dies at the age of 95. (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:
- Nominated by SounderBruce (talk · give credit)
SounderBruce 05:12, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support blurb You beat me to it. For better or for worse he turned Rhodesia into Zimbabwe and transformed the nation for over 30 years. GA article. EternalNomad (talk) 05:17, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support blurb per EternalNomad. Banedon (talk) 05:20, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support blurb per above. Davey2116 (talk) 05:23, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support blurb No question that article is thoroughly sourced, and even as just a former major world leader is good for a blurb, but even moreso for what he did. Image has been added to protection queue. --Masem (t) 05:41, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Support Mugabe was one of the most controversial (I'm being restrained there) figures in post-colonial African history. The article is GA and solidly referenced. The section on his death needs expansion, and there may be a few areas that will need changes in tense but I'm not seeing anything that is likely to require a lot of work before posting this. -Ad Orientem (talk) 05:44, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support Of course per others-- BoothSift 05:48, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- RD only Mjroots (talk) 05:58, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support blurb He was one of the most controversial political figures in Sub-Saharan Africa. Furthermore, his article has been listed as a good article. ―Susmuffin Talk 06:15, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support blurb per others. Daniel Case (talk) 06:18, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support blurb - top of the field for Zimbabweans. starship.paint (talk) 06:21, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support blurb internationally renowned personality. --DBigXrayᗙ 06:24, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support to the tune of that White Stripes song - "Oh, Robert Mugabe..." Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 06:25, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Posting, strong consensus for a blurb. Please start the process for updating the photo. --Tone 06:39, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Well, I am late to this party. :) – Ammarpad (talk) 07:41, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Post-posting support blurb but PLEASE FIX THE PHOTO NOW!!!!! The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:27, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Post-posting support blurb - I'm late, but I'm very happy to see how uncontroversial this recent death blurb was. Vanilla Wizard 💙 21:13, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
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(Posted) RD: Francisco Toledo
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/06/arts/design/francisco-toledo-dead.html
Credits:
- Nominated by Valley17 (talk · give credit)
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Nominator's comments: Celebrated Mexican artist, died on Thursday, with high-profile coverage of his death in Mexican & U.S. news media Valley17 (talk) 22:37, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Valley17:
Opposeas it is heavily unsourced and mainly incomplete for an ITN. NoahTalk 22:39, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Hurricane Noah: I've fixed the existing sourcing issues and expanded the page throughout to include more about his career, hopefully this helps it meet the standard for ITN Valley17 (talk) 01:58, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support now as it looks much better. NoahTalk 02:10, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Hurricane Noah: I've fixed the existing sourcing issues and expanded the page throughout to include more about his career, hopefully this helps it meet the standard for ITN Valley17 (talk) 01:58, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Two citations needed in the lede but otherwise OK to go. — Amakuru (talk) 15:59, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Citations for the lede have been added Valley17 (talk) 19:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support - good work, thanks. — Amakuru (talk) 19:55, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Citations for the lede have been added Valley17 (talk) 19:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
(Closed) RD: Abid Ali (actor)
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Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The News
Credits:
- Nominated by Solo Samaritan (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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- Oppose Unfortunately, it's not just unreferenced sections, but the lack of depth of coverage into Ali's career that will also prevent this from being posted. Needs more prose expansion. SpencerT•C 22:06, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
(Closed) RD: Chris March
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Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): THR
Credits:
- Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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- Still has some unsourced sentences now starship.paint (talk) 02:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Kiran Nagarkar
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by DBigXray (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Fylindfotberserk (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Start Class article with excellent sourcing. DBigXrayᗙ 14:08, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support satis. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 19:43, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support good referenced, good to go; marked as ready --DannyS712 (talk) 06:44, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Posted — Amakuru (talk) 17:58, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
(Closed) Great Oxidation Event
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Blurb: Almost 100% of all life on Earth was wiped out 2 billion years ago (Post)
News source(s): CNN
Credits:
- Nominated by Count Iblis (talk · give credit)
Article updated
- Oppose Not really a current event at all, and the article hasn't had a major update in awhile -mike_gigs (talk) 11:52, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Stale by about 2 billion years.--WaltCip (talk) 12:08, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose - A shark is the only fish that can blink with both eyes.___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:18, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose At best this is an unconfirmed theory that has made its way into the news through pop science. The media is famous for reporting the initial results of scientific studies, but not for the rebuttals that disprove those studies later. At worst, it's not a current event and therefore not relevant to "in the news" even if it ends up being true. DYK might be a better place for this. NorthernFalcon (talk) 14:24, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
(Closed) Hurricane Dorian
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Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): nbc NHC
Credits:
- Nominated by Hurricane Noah (talk · give credit)
Article updated
- Comment It's already on the Main page, having been posted on September 1. HiLo48 (talk) 02:25, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment And it is unlikely to scroll off over the next two days (when the expected threat will be to the US coast) - we can update if/when it causes damage there. --Masem (t) 02:28, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- It will likely be rolled off or expire and be removed (one week = rolled off) while still significant. I don't think an actual blurb can adequately summarize all that has happened and will happen since this is a significant storm in many ways. The impacted area of this storm is simply huge and too much to really discuss in a blurb. This has a decent chance to make landfall in Canada as a hurricane (if not that then as a hurricane-force extratropical system). Even if it doesn't, it will still bring hurricane and TS winds to most or all of the eastern coast for multiple days. The main issue I see here is this is an ongoing event rather than something that is done and over with. This is unusual in the regard that most hurricanes only get blurbs once they are dissipated. The fact this is and will have a significant impact for several days is why I am requesting the move to ongoing. NoahTalk 02:34, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Iff it makes landfall into Canada, we can IAR and manually push the blurb date up. What is important is that we rarely keep natural disasters in the ongoing as the coverage of the disaster recovery can take weeks to years. --Masem (t) 02:46, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- The article simply needs to be kept up to date in order for it to remain on the ongoing. It will likely not remain updated for weeks. Once the updating and news coverage dies down, it could be removed. The issue I have is the storm requiring multiple blurbs and constant updating as it causes damage in new areas. There is already a significant list of impacted areas. NoahTalk 02:50, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- A detailed listing of impacted areas in the blurb would be inappropriate. Perhaps wording such as "the Caribbean and the eastern coast of the United States" would be better and more stable. HiLo48 (talk) 02:59, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- First, the next 24hr will tell us if we need to update the blurb for the US to see how it scraps the coast and damage it did. (It scraped Florida and did nearly nothing to be reported -- hopefully that will be the same in the Carolinas. But if it did, we'd update the current blurb and likely move it up to 9/5. Then, if the storm continued and landfell in Canada (a rarity) and did significant damage, we can update yet again. But after the storm disappaites to a tropical storm or less, we no longer consider that in the news, even though we know in newspapers they will be covering the damage for weeks. In other words, we don't put things like hurricans to ongoing, but simply update and re-stamp the blurb. --Masem (t) 03:04, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- As far as I am aware, we have had multiple deaths in both of those states. We did post Cyclone Idai to ongoing earlier this year, so such a thing has been done in the past. If not, a more stable wording would be required. NoahTalk 03:08, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Two dudes accidentally fell off ladders before the storm. That's not natural disaster impact. Just bad luck, gravity and maybe dizziness. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:52, September 5, 2019 (UTC)
- Let us see how much damage Hurricane Dorian will do in the USA and maybe but unlikely Canada. As per above, two people falling off ladders is not a result of the hurricane. -- BoothSift 06:23, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Two dudes accidentally fell off ladders before the storm. That's not natural disaster impact. Just bad luck, gravity and maybe dizziness. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:52, September 5, 2019 (UTC)
- When Idai fell off the topic list, it was made ongoing because there was still a huge humanitarian crisis, at that point, 15,000 still missing and rising flood waters. Now, I'm not saying that we're not going to have potential issues in the States, but I've never seen a hurricane cost that many lives in a first world country. I'm not saying it can't get worse, but that's why it is better to wait to see if the storm is still threatening in the next day or so, as right now, it is not in any danger of being stale from ITN. --Masem (t) 04:19, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- As far as I am aware, we have had multiple deaths in both of those states. We did post Cyclone Idai to ongoing earlier this year, so such a thing has been done in the past. If not, a more stable wording would be required. NoahTalk 03:08, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- The article simply needs to be kept up to date in order for it to remain on the ongoing. It will likely not remain updated for weeks. Once the updating and news coverage dies down, it could be removed. The issue I have is the storm requiring multiple blurbs and constant updating as it causes damage in new areas. There is already a significant list of impacted areas. NoahTalk 02:50, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Iff it makes landfall into Canada, we can IAR and manually push the blurb date up. What is important is that we rarely keep natural disasters in the ongoing as the coverage of the disaster recovery can take weeks to years. --Masem (t) 02:46, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support - As soon as the current blurb ”falls away”.BabbaQ (talk) 12:36, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose We'd need at least 2 and possibly 3 blurbs to bump this, and there is currently only one active blurb nom (which has a forecast for SNOW). GreatCaesarsGhost 13:19, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
Conte Cabinet
Blurb: Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte forms a new government. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Following Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte's resignation on 20 August, Conte forms a new government and is reappointed as Prime Minister.
News source(s): (The Guardian), BBC, AP
Credits:
- Nominated by Rockphed (talk · give credit)
- Created by Nick.mon (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Ritchie92 (talk · give credit), Checco (talk · give credit) and Broncoviz (talk · give credit)
Nominator's comments: We passed over all the other stuff about Conte being outed. I think we should at least put the end note of the current crisis in. I have no faith that this will last until Christmas, but that would be WP:Crystal. Rockphed (talk) 12:22, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- I've gone back and forth on this...I'm leaning support because this is a significant change in the political direction of the country, right? That they kept the same PM is almost beside the point. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:31, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, they swapped a center/center right coalition for a center/center left/left wing coalition. I feel like some of that should be in the blurb, but I couldn't think of any way to elegantly state it. Rockphed (talk) 12:41, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
Support– This is the moment we've been waiting for since last week. Note that BBC says "Italy's new populist-centre left government has been appointed." – Sca (talk) 13:47, 6 September 2019 (UTC)- Support Based on previous nom when this was getting into motion. Article is fine. Blurb could explain a bit more about why this came about as an out-of-process leadership change. --Masem (t) 14:10, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose all the latter sections of the article are unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 06:40, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Not so at this point, but I'd rather see Eng.-lang. references than Italian, this being the English-language Wiki. There are plenty of sources in English. – Sca (talk) 14:46, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Getting stale. – Sca (talk) 15:01, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Not so at this point, but I'd rather see Eng.-lang. references than Italian, this being the English-language Wiki. There are plenty of sources in English. – Sca (talk) 14:46, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
Oppose– Stale. Suggest close. – Sca (talk) 13:25, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, too late now. But note that today is the day the government should be confirmed in the Parliament, so it could still count as recent. However thanks for your suggestions, I added more English-language sources. --Ritchie92 (talk) 13:30, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- I imagine parliamentary confirmation will be a procedural footnote. Too bad, as politically this coalition was quite significant. – Sca (talk) 15:53, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- It is more recent than Hurricane Dorian and the boat fire.Rockphed (talk) 19:32, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- That doesn't make it fresh. – Sca (talk) 20:22, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, too late now. But note that today is the day the government should be confirmed in the Parliament, so it could still count as recent. However thanks for your suggestions, I added more English-language sources. --Ritchie92 (talk) 13:30, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Comment – But hey, maybe this does: "Italy's Conte pledges new start, wins confidence vote in parliament." Story quotes him promising "a new era of reforms" and to work constructively with the European Union. If we had a good update, I'd support. – Sca (talk) 20:41, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Tomorrow there is the final vote in the Senate (today it won the support of the lower house already), so that might be a good occasion because it will be officially in full power. --Ritchie92 (talk) 23:11, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
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(Posted) RD: Roger Etchegaray
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): La Croix
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by DBigXray (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Bmclaughlin9 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Start Class article with good sourcing DBigXrayᗙ 14:28, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose tagged for more refs. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 06:39, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
- Fixed Bmclaughlin9 has done some great work in sourcing this article. The Rambling Man requesting a fresh review.--DBigXrayᗙ 14:09, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Support. There’s no tag anymore. I’ve added 6 citations from 4 sources. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 13:04, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 00:40, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks User:Stephen can someone post the credits? --DBigXrayᗙ 03:52, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Done by Stephen.--DBigXrayᗙ 05:52, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks User:Stephen can someone post the credits? --DBigXrayᗙ 03:52, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
(Closed) RD: Blanca Fernández Ochoa
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Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
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- Nominated by The Rambling Man (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
- Article has many unsourced claims... starship.paint (talk) 13:32, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
(Closed) RD: Peter Ellis
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Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): "Convicted Civic Creche sex abuser Peter Ellis dies while appealing conviction". Stuff.co.nz. 4 September 2019. Retrieved 4 September 2019.
Credits:
- Nominated by Schwede66 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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- Comment The article needs updating - "This is likely to be his final appeal as he has been diagnosed with terminal cancer and only has a few months left to live."-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:07, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
- Fixed to "had five weeks". InedibleHulk (talk) 20:39, September 5, 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose too much unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 20:31, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
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