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In one of my recently created articles, I discovered that it was the same as a existing article. If I use speedy deletion what template do I use?BigRed606 (talk • contribs) 1:57, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Update, I found a template. BigRed606 (talk • contribs) 2:18, 5 September 2019 (UTC) BTW, have you Twinkle? Maccore Henni _{Mii! Pictochat Mii!} 19:54, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Redirects

I’ve created a draft redirect, and I want it to be a redirect that is not a draft. How can I move it? I’ve followed the instructions on W:Redirects, but I can’t move it like it says on WP:MV. Can you help me with this? Presidential Vault (talk) 13:23, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Presidential Vault. You only joined one day ago. You need to be autoconfirmed to move pages. A user becomes autoconfirmed when they have made 10 edits and been around for 4 days.LPS and MLP Fan (Littlest Pet Shop) (My Little Pony) 14:43, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

@LPS and MLP Fan: Thank you for your help. After I am autoconfirmed, how can I move the page? Presidential Vault (talk) 00:55, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

@Presidential Vault: A "more" button will appear next to the other editing buttons, if you hover over it the option to move a page should appear. TheAwesomeHwyh 00:57, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

@TheAwesomeHwyh: So is there an option for you to choose to move it to a redirect page? And what is the moving reason I should write? Presidential Vault (talk) 01:01, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

@Presidential Vault: Not sure what you mean. All you do is type in the new title you want to be at, it doesn't matter what kind of page it is. For moving reason, you could use something generic like "publish redirect" or "moving page to mainspace", or you could be more specific if you wanted to. TheAwesomeHwyh 01:07, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

@TheAwesomeHwyh:@LPS and MLP Fan: Thank you so much for your help. Presidential Vault (talk) 02:21, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

@TheAwesomeHwyh:@LPS and MLP Fan: Actually, I have a second question. Do I have to remove the template that says the article is still in the draft namespace before moving the page, or will it be removed automatically? There is an invisible comment, that says it is important, and I should remove it. Presidential Vault (talk) 13:54, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

@Presidential Vault:I'm not quite sure, actually. I've never had to move a draft. TheAwesomeHwyh 18:55, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

@LPS and MLP Fan: I would like to ask you for help. I actually wanted to rename the page. Can I do both moving the page to main namespace and renaming it at the same time? Is there a reason for renaming the page, if both actions should be done individually? Presidential Vault (talk) 08:05, 9 September 2019 (UTC) @TheAwesomeHwyh: Replying to your answer for my question about the moving reason: Can I type in “Moving draft article to main namespace”, as it is said in the Wikipedia Moving guideline? Presidential Vault (talk) 08:09, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@Presidential Vault: When you move a page, you are changing the title, aka the page name. So, you are doing what you said at the same time. LPS and MLP Fan (Littlest Pet Shop) (My Little Pony) 19:39, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@LPS and MLP Fan: Should I remove the draft template that is a button for submitting the draft for review? There is a comment, which says"Important, do not remove". Presidential Vault, from the “Minimum Security Bank” (talk page) 01:41, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@LPS and MLP Fan: Please reply me. Are you busy or something? Anyways, back to the question. I’ve moved the draft now, should I place the histmerge template, or will somebody else place it? Presidential Vault, from the “Minimum Security Bank” (talk page) 10:20, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

I am new?

I am new and I want to know if there's a general forum? I want to get started with editing articles but I don't know where to begin. ````MissBlanketBurrito — Preceding unsigned comment added by MissBlanketBurrito (talk • contribs) 23:51, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

There are some very helpful links recently posted to your Talk page. They will help you to begin editing articles.--Quisqualis (talk) 01:06, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi MissBlanketBurrito. If you would like to start editing, you can try doing small changes to the entries listed in this page. Doing minor corrections will help you get a feel of how things are done. Darwin Naz (talk) 23:52, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Japanese stubs

I read Japanese and I would like to work on Japanese stubs (translating from the corresponding Japanese article).

Is there a list of Japanese stubs or shall I just go out and look for them?

Thanks for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wait57 (talk • contribs) 03:26, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Wait57, you can start here from this category and subsequent list of articles: and please read this page as well for guidelines how to translate and give credit: Wikipedia:Translation, thanks. Sir Joseph ^(talk) 03:47, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Wait57. Please look into Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan and there is a lot of useful information at the Wikipedia:Community portal as well. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:02, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

@Wait57: do check out Category:Stub-Class Japan-related articles where you'll see all 36,000 stub articles have be subdivided into priorities. There are just two 'Top' priority stubs, and 160 'Mid' priority ones, which should make your task less far daunting. Good luck! Nick Moyes (talk) 08:21, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

You can also take a look at these newly translated articles from Japanese and these Japanese history stubs. Good luck! Darwin Naz (talk) 00:13, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Faulty Link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swanee_(song)#cite_ref-pdrmusic_1-0

The first link goes to a dodgy website. Not sure how to fix without just removing it all. 194.207.86.26 (talk) 12:17, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi 194.207.86.26 Not sure it's particularly dodgy, just a dead link pointing to a parked domain. I've marked it as dead for now - the next thing to do is to see if you can find an archived version of the page in the internet archive. If you want to do that, that would be great. If not, either I'll do it when I have a chance, or someone else may pick up on it. Hug^syrup 12:25, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

connected to https://web.archive.org/web/20161107162801/http://www.pubdomain.com/pdrmusic.htm 194.207.86.26 (talk) 09:51, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Using self-published sources

Hi, I wonder if you can clarify Wikipedia policy about using self-published sources to support statements in biographies of living people (or maybe even non-living, it probably does not matter) in Views/Opinions sections of articles about those people. I am trying to use the actual published materials of a person as proof/support that that is indeed the person's viewpoint. I have found many examples of such use (quotes from books, articles etc) written by the people who said those things in other articles on Wikipedia. I would happily appreciate your answer. The article of concern is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Murray_(author) Thanks,FairlyFlatFoot (talk) 13:04, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@FairlyFlatFoot: The usual Wikipedia definition of self-published sources are those that anyone can publish with no quality control (e.g. Amazon reviews, blogs, etc.), and those are almost never considered reliable. You can see this guideline here: WP:RS/SPS. However, if I understand you correctly, when you say self-published sources, you mean 'sources written by the subject of the article' and want to know if those can be used as a source that the subject holds a particular view? This is a tricky area, because using a source in this way makes it a primary source, and therefore only to be used with care (see WP:PRIMARY). You also run the risk of original research if you are using someone's writings to make a claim as to what their viewpoint is on a subject. It is much better if an independent, reliable, secondary source has commented on the person's views, and you use that as the source. However, I do believe that where an individual very clearly states their belief or viewpoint in a published article or book, it is not unreasonable to either include a short direct quote from that publication, or add something to the effect of 'S/he said in ABC article that s/he believed XYZ'. Hug^syrup 13:21, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@Hugsyrup: Thanks for your quick response. I would like to take your advice and add it to the article I am trying to edit, but I am afraid I am on the verge of an edit war, and wonder how to avoid that?FairlyFlatFoot (talk) 13:37, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@FairlyFlatFoot: You're welcome. Just to be clear, I'm not necessarily advising you to add content to the article. I'm just giving my opinion on how to interpret policy - I don't know enough about what exactly you are trying to add, or the context of the article. The best/only way to avoid an edit war is to discuss your change on the talk page of the article in question and get consensus from other editors. This should definitely be your next step as there have already been a couple of bold edits and reversions. Hug^syrup 13:45, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@Hugsyrup: OOPS. I was a little too eager and already made my edits back. But if the editor reverts me again, (which I have a feeling he/she will do) I will start appealing to other editors for their opinions and help, and try and get consensus. Thanks again.FairlyFlatFoot (talk) 13:55, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@Hugsyrup:I was called out for edit warring. Of course I will not make any more reverts, but I dont understand why the editor I was "warring" with did not get a similar warning, especially since he started, and I went to the Talk page first. How can I get other editors involved without looking like I am a trouble maker, which I am not. I am just trying to learn my way around editing on Wikipedia. Thanks again.FairlyFlatFoot (talk) 14:22, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@FairlyFlatFoot: - yes, on a purely numerical basis (i.e. who reverted whom first, and how many times) they look equally as guilty of edit warring, so it's a bit cheeky of them to template you. However, the fact remains, you are (both) edit-warring and in danger of breaking WP:3RR. Don't make any further changes or reversions, and continue discussing it on the Talk page. You may find that other editors who watch that page get involved at some point (not everyone is online all the time!) and if not you can try posting at WP:3O or on a relevant wikiproject to get more eyes on the discussion. Several suitable wikiprojects are listed on the talk page. Hug^syrup 14:32, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Not uncommon for a person who calls edit-warring to get warned for same. But not for you to do. As Hugsyrup advised, best course for you is the Talk page of the article in question, and so on. David notMD (talk) 14:54, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@Hugsyrup and David notMD: Thanks, this has been quite helpful.FairlyFlatFoot (talk) 07:39, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Changing the title of company website

Hello there,

I work for a young start-up called BibliU.

We have a wikipedia page Bibliotech_(textbooks)

But it is out-of-date and could do with an update.

The most pressing change is that our company is now called 'BibliU' not 'Bibliotech'. I can't seem to change this as I don't have a registered account with the necessary edit history etc.

I wonder if someone in the wikipedia community can help change the title of the page?

Thanks James — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.207.170.234 (talk) 13:07, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

I've changed it. Please be cautious of editing the newly retitled article, though, because you have what is known as a conflict of interest - typically editing with a COI is highly discouraged, so if you must, then either coming here or to the talk page of the article would be a good idea. Minor things like typos don't need approval. Best of luck! -A lad insane (Channel 2) 14:16, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

There is now 2 identical articles, BibliU and Bibliotech (textbooks). This is not optimal, perhaps an admin should take a look. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:20, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Bibliotech (textbooks) redirects to BibliU which is very optimal and entirely appropriate. @James (92.207.170.234) - you count as a paid editor, so if you wish to make any more edits to this article, you should create an account and place the appropriate paid editing disclosure on your userpage - you can find the template and more info here: WP:PAID. Hug^syrup 14:35, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Now there's a redirect, that's better. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:56, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Please note, James, that you do not have a Wikipedia page: nobody has one of those. Wikipedia has an article about your company, but is in no sense your article (or page). The content of the article is determined by a consensus of uninvolved editors, and should be based almost entirely on what commentators wholly unconnected with the company have chosen to publish about it. --ColinFine (talk) 15:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks guys - this is really helpful. One further thing is could one of you possible help me add a company information side box? I can provide the details and our logo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.207.170.234 (talk) 13:17, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

I don't have 10 edits on wikipedia but would like to submit an article

I live in NYC where I photograph a lot of street art and painted murals in all five boroughs. I wanted to add articles about some of the artists working in the area and in the various mural parks. Is this allowed? I don't have 10 edits on wikipedia so I assume I'd have to submit what I've written and wait and see if it passes muster? If I submit the article in this way would that count as one edit on wikipedia and once Ive added 10 would I then be able to add articles without going thru the submission process? Thanks so much for any help on this — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajrsuper8 (talk • contribs) 17:15, 9 September 2019 (UTC) Ajrsuper8 (talk) 17:24, 9 September 2019 (UTC)AJ Russo

@Ajrsuper8: Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for wanting to improve it. You should look at WP:YFA for guidance on how to create an article, including what subjects are appropriate for articles. Then, there is a wizard there you can use to create a draft article for review. Creating a new article is usually not an easy task for new editors. Consider working to improve existing articles instead, to get some Wikipedia experience. RudolfRed (talk) 17:50, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Ajrsuper8, and welcome to the Teahouse. Thank you for wanting to contribute to Wikipedia. I would warn you, though, that creating a new article is one of the harder tasks in Wikipedia, and people who try to do so before they have spent time understanding how Wikipedia works often have a very frustrating time.

You're right that new editors can't create new articles directly; but I would advise anybody wanting to create an article to use the articles for creation process anyway: any editor can create a draft in this way. When you think it is ready you submit it for review.

A couple more cautions: A Wikipedia article starts with reliable published sources. Especially in articles about living people, every single statement should be cited to a source: if you start out by writing from what you know, you're doing it wrong.

Another issue about what you are wanting to do is that Wikipedia is much stricter about copyright than most sites on the web. With rare exceptions, every image used in Wikipedia must be licensed so that anybody may reuse it for any purpose, commercial or not, as long as they attribute it. In general, if you take a photo, you own the copyright, so you have the power to license it in a way that Wikipedia could use it (though you may or may not want to do so). But if it is a photo of an existing artwork, then the original artist holds that copyright, and you do not have the power to license it.

For more general information, please read your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 17:48, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much RudolfRed and ColinFine for the great info...thats good to know that if I include any photos they then become eligible for use w attribution by anyone -- that will likely factor into what photos I am willing to include. I will go ahead and write/submit an article as suggested and see if it get accepted but I will also look around to see if there are any wikipedia articles that I know enough about to try to contribute to to get the hang of things...THANK YOU both so much for the great info Ajrsuper8 —Preceding undated comment added 18:25, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Moving image

I was trying to move the map to the right of the municipality names for Oppland. can someone show me how to do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redriv (talk • contribs) 17:24, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Redriv, I think doing so would make it worse in this particular case. Having said that, the way to do so anyway would be to click on "Edit" at the top of the page, and when the edit window loads, to click on the map image, then click "edit", then click "Advanced", and then to finally click "Right". Usedtobecool ^TALK ✨ 19:23, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Curious to Know about this

i have been reading the rules and regulation on wikipedia , and one question arises in my mind is " What if an article is deleted after discussion and later the same article's subject passes all the criteria of having enough coverage on reliable resources to pass an article so can that article which now passes Notablity be recreated ? Jhummu (talk) 17:28, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Jhummu, that's a great question. The simple answer is "yes", such an article can indeed be recreated when circumstances change, and new sources become available. A new actress can fail to meet our notability criteria today, but later there may be multiple sources which write about her in depth after her next major film comes out and she receives an Oscar. I think another such example which was recently deleted was the iPhone 11 which has not yet been launched (due next month, I believe), and whose new page was recently deleted per WP:CRYSTAL. Hope this helps. Nick Moyes (talk) 17:52, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Update: I was wrong. It was launched a day after this post was made. What was a redlink to iPhone 11 is now a functionsl blue wikilink, as the article has been recreated, based on reliable sources, rather than guesswork. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:08, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Article not approved

Hi,

My recent article was not approved for Wikipedia and he error stated:

"This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia."

Every source that I used inn reference to this article has been referenced on Wikipedia used in other articles similar to the subject matter. Please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marie610 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Please read WP:Other stuff exists. If other articles fail to meet Wikipedia's requirements, they can be nominated for deletion. If you are referring to Draft:Tangeray Major it is possible that the reviewer based his judgement on what he could see by reading the draft, which was almost nothing because you had commented out most of the content. If you remove the comment symbol it appears that the infobox is still malformatted. You may wish to correct the various errors and check (using "Show preview") that it is correct before making any further changes (such as dealing with the same reference used more than once) and resubmitting. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:12, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft disappeared on me, can I find it anywhere? I need your help

Hi - I started a draft for Let It Be Art! page and I had replied earlier that there should not be a Speedy deletion of the draft and worked on it for three hours to add 28 references and then it said to publish the changes, then I did, but then it all disappeared on me, and I was left with a blank page and a turn down telling me I had submitted a blank page. Is there anyway to retrieve all the work I did today??? Please help.2600:1005:B162:F998:6079:EC5B:FAD4:B480 (talk) 19:03, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Your draft Draft:Let It Be Art! is blank I'm afraid. Theroadislong (talk) 19:08, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

A previous version of your draft was deleted as a copyright violation, and cannot be restored. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 19:12, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

working on my first wikipedia article and I was wondering about citing sources...

working on my first wikipedia article and I was wondering about citing sources...the article is based on my observations of an street artist currently working in NYC...Im not sure how I'd cite sources for that? They were recently featured in a graffiti publication but I didnt use that article to write my piece -- do I cite them just because theyre really the only other place this artist has been written about?

I'm gonna do a test article and submit to see if it is accepted and Im also coming wikipedia to see if there are any articles that I know enough about to possibly update in an effort to generate the requisite 10 edits need to post articles on without needing to submit for approval. Thanks for any help on determining if I must have sources to site Ajrsuper8 (talk) 20:21, 9 September 2019 (UTC)Ajrsuper8

Hey Ajrsuper8. Welcome to Wikipedia. You might want to consider taking our interactive tutorial at The Wikipedia Adventure, which can help you get acquainted with how a lot of things work here.

Unfortunately, if there has only ever been a single article published about this individual, then they likely don't yet meet Wikipedia's standards for notability, which requires sustained in-depth coverage in reliable published sources, often things like newspapers, magazines and books. We're not allowed to really use our own personal observations, because that's considered original research, and everything that we add to Wikipedia needs to be backed up with a source, so that the content can be verified by readers. That's really why, if there isn't sustained in-depth coverage of a subject, there's not much we can do to write an article, because there's not much we can write about that we can cite a source for. GMG^talk 20:25, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy reply User talk:GreenMeansGo#top -- this artist has participated in many group shows in NYC (all publicized art shows) would that count as proof of in-depth coverage? Ajrsuper8 —Preceding undated comment added 20:32, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Well Ajrsuper8, that kindof depends on whether there are sources available talking about their participation. That's kindof the #1 rule about pretty much anything on Wikipedia: it all comes down to what the sources say. GMG^talk 20:35, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Ajrsuper8. Merely being mentioned in an event listing for a group show is not significant coverage. If an art critic reviewed the show and commented on the specific artist's work in detail, that would be useful. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:37, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Georgetown Law School famous alumn Class of 1963. State Constitutional Officer, oldest EVER. Mike Schaefer (J. michael schaefer)

''''J.Michael Schaefer, 1963 L, Born 1938, Member, California State Board of Equalization, 2019-present *

• California's 4 members each represent 10,000,000 residents, and have jurisdiction to set assessed values for tax purposes on

$7 trillion in California real estate, supervisor 58 county assessors. Schaefer at 82 is oldest constitutional officer ever to serve California, and previously was city prosecutor and city councilman of his hometown San Diego.

[with a constituency larger than perhaps half our states, Members are in line to succeed Governor Gavin Newsom, and outrank Senators or Assembly members, each of who represent just 500,000(Assembly) or 1,000,000(Senate)]

---

Can you assist me in becoming part of the Georgetown Law alumni article, will make a donation other than the minimum I have done in past. Thanks.

(redacted) Mike Schaefer — Preceding unsigned comment added by J. michael schaefer (talk • contribs) 22:37, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

@J. michael schaefer: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I have redacted your personal contact information for your own protection; it is not wise to publish it in this public forum. In addition, Wikipedia related business should be conducted on Wikipedia if possible. I would note that while the Wikimedia Foundation appreciates any donations you might make, they or their amount have no bearing on Wikipedia content. Otherwise, our status as a neutral encyclopedia would be compromised if anyone could purchase mentions of themselves in articles. We are all volunteer editors and get no money from the Foundation.

You will need to confirm your identity with Wikipedia by following the instructions at WP:REALNAME, so we can be more confident that you are not an impersonator. Once you do, you can make an edit request on the article talk page of the article you feel your name should be in. While generally one must have an article about themselves first in order to be listed in such an article, I do notice that other members of the California Board of Equalization have articles about them as statewide government officials, so there is no reason that you would not merit one as well. 331dot (talk) 23:04, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

I agree that J.Michael Schaefer is probably notable as a member of the California State Board of Equalization although many people have advocated abolishing that body. Schaefer, a controversial landlord, won that seat in a surprise 2018 upset after many years running as an unsuccessful perennial candidate. Because of the negative content readily available online, any Wikipedia article should be written carefully and conservatively. This newspaper article is indicative of his notability. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:47, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@J. michael schaefer: Just to add to what Cullen328 posted above, you might want to carefully read Wikipedia:Autobiography, Wikipedia:Ownership of content, Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#Law of unintended consequences, Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Dealing with articles about yourself. By posting here and trying to get your name added to a Wikipedia article, you might have unintentionally started down a path that you weren't aware even existed. Many people mistakenly believe that a Wikipedia article will be something they have complete control over and thus be able to ensure that only positive things are written about. If someone does decide you satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (people) and does therefore create an article about you, the content in it will be expected to only reflect what is written about you in reliable sources. This means both positive and negative content can be added about you has long as it's done in a neutral manner, isn't excessively skewed one way or another, and otherwise is in accordance with relevant Wikipedia policies and guidelines, particularly Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. Even though attempts will be made to maintain a balance between the "good" and "bad", it may be hard to do so if most of what reliable sources are saying about you tends to be a bit negative. Since there currently doesn't exist a Wikipedia article written about you and since generally the best way for you to be added as an entry to a Wikipedia list article like List of Georgetown University alumni (assuming that's where you want your name added) is to have a Wikipedia article written about you, you may want to reconsider things and decide whether any possible downside of a Wikipedia article is worth simply having your name added somewhere to Wikipedia. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:29, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Is it necessary to Index?

I have submitted twice and been rejected twice. Each time I have done what was suggested by the editor. 1) using reliable sources 2) using footnotes. Now this has been accomplished is is necessary to Index and if so how is this done? I do not have the computer program footnote program and have done that manually. Is there a manual way to index if this is required? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malta2019 (talk • contribs)

References are required, if that's what you mean. Check out Referencing for Beginners, which should help. RudolfRed (talk) 00:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Your 'footnotes' are not the way Wikipedia does references. As RudolfRed recommended, learn how to do references. Also, look at articles at List of contemporary artists to get an idea of what belongs in an article and what does not. David notMD (talk) 00:59, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Malta2019. We use a system of inline citations and the reference numbers are generated automatically by the wiki software. Editors should not be numbering references because future changes to the article will scramble up the numbering. In addition, your article is not written in the style of an encylopedia article. Wikipedia contains biographical encylopedia articles about many artists. Your draft article is written more in the style of an homage or a tribute, filled with praise in Wikipedia's voice. Your draft will need to be completely rewritten in a neutral biographical style, and the references will need to be overhauled before your draft will have any hope of being accepted into the encylopedia. Please read and study Your first article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:07, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Editing existing Scots articles

I'm learning the Scots language and I have the aspiration of helping the Scots Wikipedia. But since Scots has no formal orthography, there can be some discourse about how to write. If I went to edit an existing page to add information, should/could I rewrite the existing information in the way I write, or should I leave the existing info alone. I ask because I heard about an edit war regarding orthography and I'd like to avoid causing problems. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.144.18.52 (talk) 01:35, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. You should discuss these issues at the Scots Wikipedia, which is a completely independent project. English Wikipedia has no authority or influence there. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Cullen is quite correct, however as a courtesy try these links: Spellin an grammar and Apologetic apostrophe. The latter one is particularly important, orthography has changed since Burn's time and it is border-line offensive to assume Scots is English with some consonants left out. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 07:03, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

How to add a page

I wanted to know How I can add a living person page. What's the criteria of editing of page? What's the criteria of citation etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TopBlogIndia (talk • contribs) 04:37, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi TopBlogIndia. You might want to try the Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure because many of your questions about editing will be answered while you're completing the adventure. You should also take a look at Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything and Wikipedia:Five pillars for some more general information about Wikipedia editing. Finally, you might need to re-assess your choice of user name because Wikipedia doesn't allow usernames which might be interpreted as representing or promoting a particular business or organization (such as website) to be used per Wikipedia:Username policy#Promotional names. You also should understand that most blogs are considered to be user-generated content that isn't considered to be a reliable source for Wikipedia's purposes; moreover, adding citations to a blog to any article, but particularly a biography about a living person, like you did here is pretty much never going to be considered acceptable. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:11, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

can you help me to resolve an issue of syntax errors ("cite%20note") caused by a VisualEditor bug

I can't seem to resolve this issue despite many modifications. Can anyone help? I can't locate the problem to get rid of this message: Warning:

This page contains syntax errors ("cite%20note") caused by a VisualEditor bug. Do not copy/move content from this page until the errors have been repaired. See

for more information.

Here is my draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Alain_Gachet

Thanks in advance!

@FK049043: - Welcome to the Teahouse. I've not come across this error message before, but it is simply a template that is added to the page by a bot (in this case it was added here) and then needs manually removing once the issue is fixed. Whether the bot would eventually come back and remove it, I don't know, but it looks to me as if the page is now free of the string that was causing the error, so you can simply remove this line {{Warning VisualEditor bug|date=September 2019}} from the very top of your article.

By the way, you should remove the bolding from the header 'Career as an inventor' and the three sub-heads below that. As you can see, it makes them bold in the table of contents, which is wrong. Good luck with your draft. Hug^syrup 09:14, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

How to Add Map on a Place article?

Hello everyone!

Can anyone help me to teach how to add map on articles? For example i created an article Solara (village). Now i want to add map on this article. Kolta99 (talk) 09:11, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Kolta99, Hi greetings, welcome to teahouse. You can add maps in articles related to settlement very easily. Since there is a template named {{Infobox settlement}}, you can specify the map to be displayed in the parameter pushpin_map . Here it is India Bihar#India. Also should add the coordinates in it's parameter. Now I did it for you first time. You can see it. This can easily be done in other articles you edit as well.

Please see parameters..
| pushpin_map = India Bihar#India
| pushpin_label_position = right
| pushpin_map_caption = Location in Bihar, India
| coordinates = 24.8239°N 84.9141°E / 24.8239; 84.9141
Best wishes. Thank you.--PATH SLOPU 10:24, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

My dear friend PATH SLOPU, Thank you for the valuable information. I understood your all points except the coordinates. How can i find the coordinates for a particular place? Kolta99 (talk) 05:21, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank You i got it on Google maps.Kolta99 (talk) 06:06, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Having an article declined at Articles please guide

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakesh77770 (talk • contribs) 10:57, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@Rakesh77770: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. What exactly is your question? If you need help with referencing then it is well worth looking at the help pages and policies linked to in the message you have copy-pasted above. I.e. - a guide to what constitutes a reliable source and referencing for beginners. It is essential that all articles are well referenced.

Out of interest, what is the article that has been declined? Do you have another account that you used to create the draft? Hug^syrup 11:02, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Presumably the OP is referring to User:Rakesh77770/sandbox? --David Biddulph (talk) 11:10, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Yes indeed. I had actually changed my message above to reflect that but you reverted mine to the previous version when posting yours. Never mind. Hug^syrup 11:12, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The words in blue in the feedback message on your user talk page are wikilinks to specific guidance on the various aspects. After reading those pages, do you have particular questions? --David Biddulph (talk) 11:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Wikilink me!

Hi! it's me again, yeah, I don't know how to search in the manual of Wikipedia and need aid. I started 2019 Samoa assassination plot, and I cited the penal code of Samoa to indicate the would-be sentence for the conspirators of the plot, and it's prison for life, but the code is too long for someone wanting to verify, how can I add a note instead of a reference, to say something like "Article 40 indicates High Treason is punishable with prison for life, etc". Thanks many much!. --CoryGlee (talk) 13:47, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi CoryGlee. This goes against Wikipedia:No original research#Synthesis of published material. You need a reliable source which specifically says what the sentence in this case could be. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:27, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi PrimeHunter, perfect then!, I'll wait the prosecution request. Thanks for your help. :) --CoryGlee (talk) 14:31, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Create an Artist page.

Hi ,

I want to create an artist page for myself so that people related to my field can find all my information here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamalscorpian86 (talk • contribs) 15:35, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

The advice at WP:Autobiography tells you why you shouldn't do it. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:43, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Please see the website https://en.everybodywiki.com which you might find more suitable for your purpose.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 16:54, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@Kamalscorpian86: I believe you have mistaken Wikipedia for another "social media" site, where people put up pages about themselves. Please see WP:NOTSOCIAL. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 19:08, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

HTTP 404

I keep trying to work in my sand Box but as of now I keep getting a HTTP 404 what does that mean?Jack90s15 (talk) 15:59, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

User:Jack90s15/sandbox works for me. What url are you trying to access? --David Biddulph (talk) 16:03, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

The Standard URLJack90s15 (talk) 16:23, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Seems like its working nowJack90s15 (talk) 16:31, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@David Biddulph: its still happening I will just wait thenJack90s15 (talk) 16:35, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Another DDOS? It may be that you two are in different geographic locations. Last time it was mostly Europe. GMG^talk 16:38, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

DDOS? I don't know what that means @GreenMeansGo: Jack90s15 (talk) 16:42, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Try reading DDOS. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:46, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) It's an attack where someone uses a large amount of compromised computers to ping the Wikipedia servers a gazillion times, so that it basically shuts them down temporarily. (Denial-of-service attack#Distributed attack) We had one on Friday I believe that shut down access for Europe and the Middle East for a few hours. GMG^talk 16:47, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

that's Horrible @GreenMeansGo:Jack90s15 (talk) 17:14, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@GreenMeansGo: was that why I couldn't get into Wikipedia? That was very annoying, I lost 15 minutes of writing and researching when I couldn't save it. People can sometimes be real annoying, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 17:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

I've gotten into the compulsive habit of smacking ctrl-a ctrl-c before I hit save most of the time. It's mostly useless but every now and then it will save your hide. GMG^talk 17:47, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

I take it a step further, copy/pasting the wikitext to a text editor (I like Textpad or the one in MS Visual Studio if I have it open) and save it as a local text file, which protects you if your browser or machine crashes (Firefox recovers pretty nicely sometimes, including the edit box contents; highly recommended). This is especially necessary in AWB, which, if it has any kind of problem while saving, simply scraps all the changes you've made and moved on to the next article in the list. This seems to happen routinely with long editing sessions, maybe with a machine sleep or two along the way, exactly when it does the most harm :( —[AlanM1(talk)]— 23:22, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Where can I view traffic analytics for Wikipedia?

Where can I view traffic analytics for Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonobellodd (talk • contribs) 17:52, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey Sonobellodd. There is a lot of useful information at Wikipedia:Statistics. Although, the answer probably depends on exactly what kind of information you are trying to find. GMG^talk 19:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft:2b2t

Hello. I've been working on this article for a while in my sandbox. I believe it is well-referenced and formatted, and I would like for it to be reviewed. I tried to directly create the article, although it would not allow me too, as the article has been created and deleted several times before, although I believe this was because it was not referenced and formatted correctly. Could I get it reviewed quickly? Melofors (talk) 18:56, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

As it says on your draft: "Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 8 weeks or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 4,474 pending submissions waiting for review." Please remember that there is no deadline. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:04, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Page's

How to delete a page ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukhozi (talk • contribs) 19:02, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey Lukhozi. That very much depends on what page you would like deleted and why. GMG^talk 19:03, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

I am new In Wikipedia & I created a page about a diary but it seemed like it wasn't a good idea so I want to know how to delete it??— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukhozi (talk • contribs) 19:04, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

You can edit the page and just delete what you wrote.--Quisqualis (talk) 19:23, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Blogs

I want to start a blog can you tell me how to start a blog + I want it to be a personal blog plz help me — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukhozi (talk • contribs) 19:27, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey Lukhozi. This is a place for new users to ask questions about editing Wikipedia. If you have a question about Wikipedia, then I'm sure we're happy to help any way we can. If you are primarily interested in other things, then I'm afraid you will need to seek advise elsewhere. GMG^talk 19:29, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Lukhozi and welcome to the Teahouse. Just in case it is not clear from the advice above, Wikipedia cannot be used for a blog. It is an encyclopaedia, and has articles only on subjects that have been written about elsewhere in WP:Reliable sources. You are probably looking for social media. Dbfirs 20:06, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

What is the essay ...

What is the essay (I think it's an essay) which means "Wikipedia has an article on that too". It is kind of a joke. And it is an acronym. Bus stop (talk) 20:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@Bus stop: I think you are looking for Wikipedia:WHAAOE RudolfRed (talk) 20:50, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks—that's it! Bus stop (talk) 21:11, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Subject's Notability and Conflict of Interest

My article is intended to correct historical errors found on the Internet. My question here is two-fold: (1) regarding the sufficient notability of the subject of my intended article, who is long deceased [1943] but who had gained notoriety documented over a span of several years in the records of the University of Cincinnati, in the Cincinnati Enquirer newspaper, and in at least one published book; and (2)the perception of conflict of interest due to the subject of the article being my own father. Your opinion and/or questions will be welcomed. --MWS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1000:B11E:C72:90CE:1B9C:BF33:2739 (talk) 20:57, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello 2600:1000:B11E:C72:90CE:1B9C:BF33:2739. I suggest that you should not make the article. It is strongly discouraged to make an article about anything you have a connection with. If he is notable enough, someone will make an article about him. LPS and MLP Fan (Littlest Pet Shop) (My Little Pony) 21:08, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

A different answer: WP:COI applies. People who wish to write about a person they have a connection to (family, friend) may have a hard time achieving a neutral point of view, and must understand the need for all content to by based on published articles, not their own knowledge. Unpublished information in the records of the University of Cincinnati would not be considered a reliable source. If you intend to go ahead, you should register an account, create a draft, and submit to Articles for Creation. And, you should declare your conflict-of-interest on your User page. Keep in mind that if there is published information available on the internet, other people may chose to add it to the article. No one 'owns' an article. David notMD (talk) 22:36, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

colored names

Hi, I would like to know how to make my username colored.
Predated0 (talk) 22:21, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

@Predated0: Welcome to Wikipedia. Look at Wikipedia:Signatures for how to customize your signature. RudolfRed (talk) 22:40, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Purpose

What do you need me for? — Preceding unsigned comment added by UhZeletics (talk • contribs) 23:55, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

There are many things you can do! You could go read articles and fix any typos you find - that's a great way to learn your way around Wikipedia. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 02:35, 11 September 2019 (UTC) (@UhZeletics: adding ping - -A lad insane (Channel 2) 02:36, 11 September 2019 (UTC))

@UhZeletics:Also you can edit articles and add reliable information with reliable sources. --PATH SLOPU 05:16, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Marines

I am trying to find Marines from Lyndonville,Vt area that either became famous or went to work in government, just need info on them as I have not been able to find anything

Thank you Gayle — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.83.95.22 (talk) 04:19, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

The Lyndonville, Vermont article (click on blue to go to) identifies a few notable people, but none of them appear to be Marines. David notMD (talk) 04:29, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Can someone submit this article I made?

Can someone submit this article I made? If it's not ready to be submitted, pls send a reason why. Thx!

My draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sony_Cyber-shot_DSC-WX500 — Preceding unsigned comment added by EPICGAMER890 (talk • contribs) 04:57, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

@EPICGAMER890: Welcome to teahouse. Your article has already submitted. Also remember to sign after every post with four tildes--~~~~. When adding links to wikipedia pages (wikilinks), please use [[ ]] in both sides of page name rather than adding URLs. Example--[[Draft:Sony_Cyber-shot_DSC-WX500]]. Thank you.PATH SLOPU 05:13, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

thx! :D umm, it's not submitted... does it take time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by EPICGAMER890 (talk • contribs) 06:30, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi EPICGAMER890. The banner at the top of the draft says "Review waiting, please be patient." So, you just have to wait until an AfC reviewer gets to it. You can, however, continue to work on improving the draft while you're waiting for it to be reviewed. One thing I would suggest that you do is to take a look at WP:SEEALSO. A "See also" section is intended for internal links to other existing Wikipedia articles; a "See also" section shouldn't contain embedded external links or WP:REDLINKS per WP:NOTSEEALSO, WP:EL#cite_note-7 and WP:ELLIST. Another thing you might want to look at is WP:REFPUNC since punctuation generally comes before footnote markers in Wikipedia articles. These things are only minor formatting errors I noticed, but if you want some more detailed feedback you can try asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Photography. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Confirmation

I created my account 5 days ago and i have already made 10 edits still my account is not confirmed. I want to upload a new page but i cant because of account confirmation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musab Asif (talk • contribs) 06:18, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Musab Asif, welcome to the Teahouse! Your account is only three days old. You must have miscounted. Let's give it a day more. In the meantime, as it's not easy to create an acceptable article without some experience, I advise using the time to familiarise yourself more with Wikipedia guidelines and policies. Regards! Usedtobecool ^TALK ✨ 06:42, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

You are off to a very bad start. To get to ten edits you repeatedly made minor changes to one article and then changed those back to the original. You missed reversing a few, leaving mess. An editor reverted the article to what was there before you started. If this is your idea of being a useful Wikipedia editor, does not bode well. See note on your Talk page. David notMD (talk) 12:50, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Please review my page

Hi,

I have created a Marathi Wikipedia Page. Can someone please review it? https://mr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%A6%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AF:Lorde1801/sandbox Also, is there a different page where I can ask help for Marathi Wikipedia? Lorde1801 (talk) 07:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

This is the English language Wiki. The individual Wikis are separate, and so you should ask at the appropriate place in the Marathi Wiki. It is unlikely that a Marathi speaking editor will visit this page. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 07:39, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Lorde1801. You might possibly find someone who can read Marathi at Wikipedia:WikiProject India, but Martin of Sheffield is right in that the best place for you to ask about your sandbox draft would be on Marathi Wikipedia. Each Wikipedia project has its own policies and guidelines, and while the various projects may be similar in many ways, there are also sometimes some pretty big differences. I'm not sure whether Marathi Wikipedia has a page like the Teahouse, but it should have a general help page. Try going to Help:Contents and look for Marathi under "Languages" in the left-hand side bar. If there's a Marathi Wikipedia help page, you should find a link to it there. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:04, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi,

Thank You for your help. Lorde1801 (talk) 05:45, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

adding a photograph to a profile

Hello everybody, I would like to ask for help regarding adding photos to people's profiles at the top of the personal information section. I tried to upload some images but there seems to be a problem and I can't solve it. Please be kind to help me with this issue. Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bachana28 (talk • contribs) 09:47, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Bachana28, Try the file upload wizard. Interstellarity (talk) 10:50, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Bachana28, and welcome to the Teahouse. I can't find any evidence that you have tried to upload images, either to Wikipedia or to Wikimedia Commons, so I don't know what kind of problem you are having. But it is important to realise that Wikipedia is very strict on copyright, and most images you find on the Internet cannot be used in it. If you own the rights to a particular picture (which usually means that you took the picture yourself) then you can upload it, and license it as you do so.

A couple of other points: please note that Wikipedia does not contain "profiles": not one. It contains encyclopaedia articles, which should be almost entirely based on information published wholly independently of the subject of the article. The subject of an article has no ownership or control over the article. In fact, I notice that you have been editing Bachana Tskhadadze: are you Tskhadadze? If so, you are strongly discouraged from editing that article yourself: please see autobiography. I also notice that you edited Keşla FK to replace sourced information (though inadequately sourced) with unsourced information relating to Tskhadadze: again, if you are Tskhadadze, this is inappropriate editing with a conflict of interest. I have removed that claim as unsourced. --ColinFine (talk) 16:01, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Reply link script

I would like to use the reply link script when replying to people at the Teahouse. I tried to use it, but sometimes it doesn't work. Why is that? Interstellarity (talk) 10:53, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi there, Interstellarity. You'll be aware this is a user-created script, still being worked on? If you're finding bugs, it would be immensely helpful to the developer if you would report this at User talk:Enterprisey/reply-link, giving as much details of the problem, and of your system. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:25, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Interstellarity, I made it work better by copying its code to the top of the list. It still fails when I try to make long comments but otherwise it works most of the time for me, now. (Aaand... it didn't work for this very short reply) Usedtobecool ^TALK ✨ 18:01, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes and Usedtobecool: I have left a note on the script's talk page explaining the issue with an image. Hopefully someone will respond soon. Interstellarity (talk) 20:41, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Interstellarity, I contemplated doing the same, but the prospect of having to document my site preferences, browser settings and specs, and PC settings and specs, was enough of a deterrent. Glad you're doing the right thing. Hope something comes off it. Regards! Usedtobecool ^TALK ✨ 21:09, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

@Interstellarity: Good move. Thank you very much for doing that. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:26, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Follow-up to How do I responding to an editor threatening to block

I am trying to respond on the talk page to the rubbish reply given by Nishidani below but am being told that Nishidani is no longer active on Wikipedia. How do I proceed without engaging in an edit war? I suspect Nishidani was set up and then deleted by the author to avoid talk.

Thanks ElBeavo.

'Your edits at Eran Elhaik, are (a) a WP:OR violation, since it is original search to write up what you regard as co nclusive in a secondary source. Such a comment can only be used if it comes from independent sources. (b) It violates WP:NPOV, since you are asserting as a 'truth' one opinion in a scientific debate, (c) an opinion by Flegontov et al to which the criticized authors have responded. For these reasons, you abuse of wiki procedures on a WP:BLP article will be automatically reverted at sight, and if you persist you will be reported.Nishidani (talk) 14:47, 20 August 2019 (UTC)' — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elbeavo (talk • contribs)

Nishidani was around for a long time, recently retired. However, after your last insertion of the text you want in the Eran Elhaik article, a different editor reverted it. The caution about being temporarily blocked for edit warring is valid. The proper place to continue is at the Talk page of the article, where there is an ongoing discussion on exactly this topic. Your wording "The paper by Das et al employs his so called 'Geographic Population Structure' (GPS) algorithm which, like much of the quantitative methodology used by Elhaik, has now been statistically refuted and transparently shown to be completely flawed by Flegontov et al." is phrased as an opinion. After seeking consensus at the Talk page there should be a way to address the dispute in encyclopaedic wording. David notMD (talk) 13:02, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Bioelectronic medicine

Hi, is anyone else working on the topic Bioelectronic medicine or devices" or related topics such as "neuromodulation" or "electroceuticals"? Just wondering and maybe we could help each other. Also, I've made another round of edits to my submission but it's been almost 2 months and no one has reviewed it. What do I do?

Cameronwillis (talk) 13:03, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

I see that in Draft:Bioelectronic Medicine you use the term "vagus nerve", but instead of wikilinking to the article vagus nerve you give your own description of it, disagreeing with what is stated in that article. Maproom (talk) 14:25, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Multiple Accounts Question

Message to administrators/editors. I am a bit clumsy with accounts, passwords etc. (I have been known to pay the same utility bill multiple times). A fair amount of time elapsed between my first entry into the Wiki community and my second (more than 4 years, I think). On that second occasion, I mistakenly opened a second account and never again intentionally used the first one. Recently, I visited the Teahouse and asked to have the first account removed. Kevin informed me that I could not do so but that it was not a problem if I only use one account. I now notice that there is a message on my talk page that says I am "a user of multiple accounts". It is far more accurate to state that I opened a second account by mistake and cannot close it. Is there any way to remove or qualify the message --user of multiple accounts -- as it is potentially misleading and may imply something negative to the community. I am currently being paid to write a page for my company, Virage Simulation, and I do not want my early inexperience and clumsy entry into the Wiki community to reflect poorly on my current efforts to demonstrate transparency. Any advice will be appreciated, thanksDriverSafety (talk) 15:17, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

DriverSafety, using multiple accounts isn't prohibited. Abusing them is. As the admin that contacted you noted, there is no problem. They were only telling you that they had redirected your old account userpage to your new one. If that doesn't settle your mind, you can add the fact that you have an old account that you no longer use in your new userpage as well. If you are uncomfortable about the section header in your talkpage remaining there for everyone to see, you can either delete it, or archive it. That is your talk page, so you are allowed to delete messages there; any message so deleted is assumed read and understood. Cheers! Usedtobecool ^TALK ✨ 17:20, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. If every editor/reviewer understands the section header the same way, I will let it stand for now.DriverSafety (talk) 17:26, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

adding "Creating Auma, Hedmark"

The link to Auma on the wikipedia "List of Villages in Hedmark" mistakenly points to Germany. It should link to a page that says "Creating Auma, Hedmark" and the template that says a Wikipedia article needs to be created.

I can change the link, but how do I create that page?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Redriv (talk • contribs) 15:42, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing this, Redriv. I have changed the link to Auma, Hedmark which shows up as a redlink, meaning that the article doesn't yet exist. (I also used the pipe trick to make it appear in the table as just "Auma", even though the article it points to would be called "Auma, Hedmark".)

Creating an article is one of the hardest tasks in Wikipedia, and I strongly advise new editors against doing so until they have got some weeks or months of experience. When ready to do so, follow the advice in your first article, and use the articles for creation process to creat a draft. When an article about that Auma has been accepted, it should also be added to Auma (disambiguation); but we don't put redlinks in disambiguation pages.

I note that many of the places in List of villages in Hedmark are redlinks, and it would be useful if somebody did create articles about them. --ColinFine (talk) 16:13, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Redriv (talk) 20:10, 11 September 2019 (UTC)I have noticed other links that should have the same redlink. I can change the link to go to the redlink, but I don't know how to create the redlink. Coud you direct me to a place that shows me how, (or tell me how)

As I said above, Redriv, you can find the information you need in your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 20:27, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks and I'll look there. I didn't realize I was creating an article and just thought I was adding a template link. Thanks again.Redriv (talk) 20:42, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Article uploading

Why can't I upload my article?!Persist-Resistant (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:14, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

New accounts can't create articles directly; you'd have to wait until you are autoconfirmed. Even then, it would be unwise for you to create an article directly, as it would be liable to deletion if unsuitable. Read the advice at WP:Your first article, and use the Articles for creation process to get your draft reviewed. Meanwhile you can edit existing articles to build up your experience of Wikipedia processes. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:33, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Becoming a great Editor

Hello,

Do you have a video session or archives available to review for training? I'm new to Wikipedia, really happy to be a user and wants learn to become a great editor one day.

Thanks TVincent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tvincent88 (talk • contribs) 17:35, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

@Tvincent88: Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for wanting to learn how to edit. I'm not aware of any video training. I suggest starting with the interactive learning game at WP:ADVENTURE and also the tutorial at WP:TUTORIAL. This will give you a good start. Come back if you have questions. RudolfRed (talk) 17:51, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

@Tvincent88: There are a number of video resources you might like to check out, which RudolfRed might also like to be aware of. See here and here and here. Some were made some time back, so the interface will now be different (especialy any mention to 'Save changes' or 'Save edit' which is now renamed in the big blue button as 'Publish changes', which often confuses people, especially when editing a draft or a userpage. (Everything online - even userpages-is actually published, even if it isn't actually in the main encyclopaedia). I must admit that I've not looked at some of these for ages, if at all. So perhaps you might like to pop back and tell us which ones you think were most helpful? If you do, I'll make a special note to check them out and refer other editors to them, if needs be. I also think User:Pine was working on some new training videos - maybe they might like to add further suggestions? Hope this helps a bit - and don't forget to try out our interactive tour at The Wikipedia Adventure. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 01:18, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Table syntax?

I need help converting my user boxes to a table format. Any help/assistance with this can help. Ideally, someone else can do it for me. Maccore Henni _{Mii! Pictochat Mii!} 18:33, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

 Done. At least, I've done the first six as a demo for you. You can do the rest, I'm sure with this guidance. BTW: Your signature display is very misleading - please consider changing it, and removing the unlinked blue text at the beginning which most people would assume is a link to your user page, but which, after multiple clicks, they find that it isn't. See WP:SIGNATURE for help on this. Be aware that our purpose here is to help build an encyclopaedia. It seems that in your two years and 164 edits here, you have only made two mainspace edits - most of the rest are to your userpage. It's best to balance the fiddling around with actual helpful editing, or some might thing that you're WP:NOTHERE to help out (see last line of that section). I offer this advice in a positive manner, whilst appreciating it probably comes over rather too harshly in written form. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 02:16, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

wikilove templates

Is anyone allowed to use the wikilove templates?Predated0 (talk) 20:01, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Predated0, welcome to the Teahouse. Yes, WikiLove templates don't require special permissions—they are just an informal way to express appreciation of another user. Eman235/talk 20:31, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Help Editing my wiki page Manuello Paganelli

For more than six months or so I'd been informed via email from several people close to me or strangers that my wiki page needs more links and I dont know how to fix it or who could help me. I did a couple editing in 2016 ago and is still showing this on my wiki page and I dont know how to fix that too so is not showing at all, "This article may rely excessively on sources too closely associated with the subject, potentially preventing the article from being verifiable and neutral. (November 2016)" I havent created an acct, as far as I can remember, so if I do so can I then make the right changes without hurting my credibility on wiki?

Per instance below is telling me that it needs a source but if you click where it says Weston Gallery it will take you straight into their website and anybody an find me under their artists.

"Gallery Representation This section does not cite any sources. Please help improve this section by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (July 2018) (Learn how and when to remove this template message)"

So should all of those links be also be shown below where is says: External links?

Also under gallery representation i would love to include a new gallery which started representing me a couple months ago: www.ObscuraGallery.Net in Santa Fe, NM.

So who could help me each time I need to add or edit something right away?

I also dont know how to include my photo ( a portrait of me) at the right top side of the page like many other artist have on their on pages.

THanks so much for any help!

Manuello Paganelli— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:642:c301:71f:411:a06:b270:d63c (talk) 20:42, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Please sign your posts, like this one. Also, since you claim to be the subject of the article, please read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY, since you seem to have a WP:COI regarding the article. You are discouraged from editing your page, but are welcome to propose changes on the talk page. --LPS and MLP Fan (Littlest Pet Shop) (My Little Pony) 21:21, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

If you will post suggestions for changes on the talk page, I will try to help. I have added "the article" to my watch list, so if you post to its talk page, I will be informed. Will also have a look at the referencing problems noted above. For ease of communication, I suggest you register a user name (but not your own full name, for privacy). This will provide you with a user page AND most importantly, a talk page, so people can talk to you directly. Then you can sign your "user name" as noted above, on the article's talk page, and I can get back to you with questions. Whatever you do, do not refer to the article (here at the Teahouse) as "your page" or "your article" because some editors get quite huffy about this! Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 21:36, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Manuello Paganelli (IP 2601:642:c301:71f:411:a06:b270:d63). I just want to add a few things to what was posted above.

1. If you decide to create an account (it's not mandatory), you can use your real name as your username if you like. Sometimes, however, doing this can lead to some unexpected problems; so, you should read WP:REALNAME and WP:REALWORLD first and decide whether it's something you really want to do. If you do use your real name, you may be asked to verify your identity by sending an email to Wikimedia OTRS. Since there's no way from anyone to know who you really are regardless on your choice of username (see On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog), sometimes accounts which have the same username as a specific identifiable person (e.g. someone with a Wikipedia article written about them) are soft-blocked as a precaution by an administrator against damaging impersonation until the account holder's identity can be verified. For reference, administrators do have some discretion when it comes to blocking accounts and can block an account (even without issuing a warning first) if they feel the account is causing some serious problems or otherwise disrupting Wikipedia.
2. Regardless of your choice of username or whether you even create an account, you will be considered to have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest with respect to anything written about you on Wikipedia. Wikipedia doesn't expressly prohibit conflict-of-interest editing, but it does highly discourage it because it can lead to some serious problems. For this reason, the Wikipedia community has established some guidelines to help such editors navigate Wikipedia and avoid running into problems. Compliance with these is optional, but once again they are established to help you avoid problems. You can find out some more about this in Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide.
3. You should try to understand that there is a Wikipedia article written about you, but it's not written for you; in other words, it's not "your" article so to speak. Neither the users who create/edit articles nor the subjects of articles have any ownership claim over article content as explained in Wikipedia:Ownership of content. So, you don't have a final editorial control over the content of the article just because it's written about you. Articles can be edited by anyone at anytime and as long as their edits are in accordance with relevant policies and guidelines there should be no problems. Disagreements over article content are expected to be resolved by following Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. This doesn't necessarily mean that you're helpless to the whims of other editors, but you will be expected to resolve any issues you have with the article just like everyone else. Basically, you (and your representatives) should refrain from directly editing the article except perhaps in some of the cases listed in Wikipedia:Conflict of interest#Making uncontroversial edits; instead, you should follow the suggestions given in Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide#Steps for engagement and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Dealing with articles about yourself.
4. If you'd like a photo added to the article and are willing to provide one yourself, please taking a look at Wikipedia:Copyrights#Guidelines for images and other media files and Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. As long as you're the copyright holder of the photo (this can sometimes be tricky since the subject of a photo is generally not considered to be the copyright holder) and are willing to release a version of it under a free license that Wikipedia accepts (see also c:Commons:Licensing, then it should be OK to upload.

If you've got any questions about any of this, feel free to ask them below. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:09, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Updated Music Chart Information

I was just looking at the Wikipedia page for the recent single "Higher Love" by Whitney Houston and the peak chart position on the French charts is listed as #122 but I just looked and it's at #83. Just thought I'd let you know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.92.238.250 (talk) 20:43, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello IP editor. Welcome to the Teahouse. It's kind of you to think about posting a suggestion for a correction. However, the best place is to ask you to post it at the talk page for the article, and perhaps link to a page which allows another editor to check. Assuming you're not editing in mobile view, just click the tab labelled 'Talk' next to the Article's own tab and leave your suggestions there, if you will. Many thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 01:52, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

In-line referencing

New to Wikipedia and looking for some examples of In Line References - Please advise.Rwdepalma (talk) 20:48, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Note to hosts: This refers to Draft:Lofton Butler, which I declined for insufficient in-line citations. Jalen D. Folf (talk) 22:30, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for that note, JalenFolf -it was also fully of copyvios too. BTW: do you know how hard your signature is to read with dark font against a dark blue background? I wonder if you might consider lightening it a bit for users without 20:20 vision?

@Rwdepalma: welcome to the Teahouse. First off, as I've just alluded to above, you are not permitted to copy/paste copyrighted text (as you did from https://www.rwdepalma.com/coffee_butler and https://www.thekeywesttheater.com/about/.)It matters not that you might have written that text - you have it displayed under a copyright notice and you may not use it here. Please remove the copypasted elements and rewrite the text.

Secondly, creating well-referenced new articles from scratch is one of the hardest tasks anyone can perform here. We are an encyclopaedia on notable people and things, not a collection of random poorly-formatted essays. So we have structure, style and layout rules which need to be followed. I'm going to give you a bit of homework, now, starting off with asking you to read Wikipedia:Your First Article and Help:Referencing for beginners. Unfortunately the latter is a bit complex, so you might wish to undertake our tutorial, called The Wikipedia Adventure which introduces you to the basics. Inline citations are present in virtually every article here, and requires you to use the 'Cite' button on our editing tool right after some statement of fact that you wish to support. Click that Cite button to select a template to fill in with details of your sources title, date, author, publisher, url etc. Providing you have a properly formatted 'References' section, your citation will appear with a superscript number after your statement, plus the full reference within the References section itself.

Thirdly, our notability criteria for musicians can be found at Wikipedia:Notability (music), so you will have to provide references which clearly demonstrate how Lofton Butler meets those. UNless they can be met, there can be no article about him on Wikipedia, I'm afaid. If you are his promoter or agent (and it seems likely that you may be a professional photographer selling pictures of him) you are advised to declare any  Conflict of Interest or Paid work by following the guidance you can find via those links. If you are successful in creating that page, you might then wish to make one of your currently copyrighted images available for use on his page under a free for commercial/non-commercial Creative Common so that it can illustrate that new article. Come back and seek advice on that later, if you need it.

I'm sorry this sounds like an awful lot of instructions - but only by ensuring everyone follows our policies, guidelines and manual of style can we hope to keep the nearly 6 million articles already on Wikipedia into some sort of unified appearance, and ensure that new pages are similarly structured. Hoping this helps. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:33, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Update: I've twice managed to remove a rapidly-placed speedy deletion notice by cutting out all the copyright violation content in two consecutive edits. The draft is still a mess, but can now be carefully worked on by this editor at their leisure, per my guidance above. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:13, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Teahouse!

My client and I have been struggling to get their Wikipedia page included. Each time we believe we are compliant in all aspects of Wikipedia's guidelines, we find out we are the exact opposite! I was directed here to inquire with any questions as they arise. Please take a look at our (third revised) draft and let me know if the language and citations follow the guidelines. Thank you! Sccros (talk) 21:01, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Sccros and welcome to the Teahouse. The message you received actually advised you to post questions about why your page was deleted to WP:WPAFC/HD, and that "If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself!" We certainly try to be friendly here, and it seems that you've actually had quite a bit of advice from editors on your talk page already. As you are editing for pay, you should know you are best to follow the advice you have been given, and to post there if needs be. We'd be happy to help with other practicalities if you need advice on how to edit, but please remember that nobody has 'a right' to create pages - the community determines by consensus if notability has been met, and removes content that fails. The key thing we say to everyone is to find independent, reliable sources that clearly demonstrate the subject has been talked about in detail. Things like business journals and regurgitated press releases don't count, and often I find that "less is more", and that cutting out trivial and promotional stuff, as I believe one of our other friendly Teahouse hosts has already done is itself likely to aid you in your mission to promote your employer/client. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:30, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

• @Sccros: Add {{subst:review}} at the top of the draft when you feel it's ready to go live, and a reviewer will take a look at it. The text itself is OK and inline referencing is good (if one really wants to nitpick, the last paragraph might be undue detail - for instance, which organization does not [hold] several members-only events around the world every year?). However, I am not sure the refs demonstrate notability (see WP:ORGCRIT) - the only sources that deal at length with AFIRE are bisnow and cooperator, whose reliability I am not sure of. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 08:59, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Tim G Wilson

I was left a message by Hugsyrup when I was mistakenly editing material when working on another Users sandbox page. Didn't understand the single Editor per user space. THAT user name was Barbra Gayle. I have since set up my own user spaceTimgwilson and had wanted to continue conversation with Hugsyrup.Timgwilson (talk) 21:08, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Timgwilson, and welcome to the Teahouse. Although Hugsyrup is very active as a host here at the Teahouse, you would be best advised to leave him a message on his/her talkpage at User talk:Hugsyrup. Note that because I've included their username in my signed post, they, like you, will also receive a notification message of my reply here. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:33, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi Timgwilson. The previous discussion about this can be found at Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 1007#Biographic Articles - citation structure, but switching to another account doesn't mean you are no longer subject to Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure or that you're no longer considered to have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest; Wikipedia's policies and guidelines for these things apply to the person actually doing the editing, not to the account they happen to be using. Assuming that you've decided to abandon the other account, you shouldn't really be using it to edit anymore; this includes edits to pages in your new userspace. As long as the other account stays inactive it should be fine to just leave it alone; if, however, you or someone else starts using it again, then you might have problems. You might want to take a look at Wikipedia:Clean start for more information about this kind of thing. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:26, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Many thanks Nick Moyes for the ping and for replying to Tim. Just to say they have now messaged me on my talk page and I've replied there with information about paid editing guidelines and disclosures. Hug^syrup 08:08, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

List of Verifiable/Reliable Sources accepted on Wikipedia

I remember finding a list on Wikipedia of what online sources were accepted on Wikipedia. Like The Daily Mail is not accepted as a verifiable or reliable source but The Guardian is. Unfortunately, after searching I cannot seem to find the page again. Could someone please link the page to me? Thanks. Spy-cicle (talk) 22:24, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

@Spy-cicle: Check out WP:RSP, which may be what you are looking for. There is a nice table under Sources. Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 22:36, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

• • Exactly what I was looking for, thank you very much @Tribe of Tiger:. Spy-cicle (talk) 22:39, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

@Spy-cicle: You are very welcome! Tribe of Tiger ^{Let's Purrfect!} 22:47, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

@Spy-cicle: Great advice there from Tribe of Tiger to go to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. A little trick, next time, for finding stuff you know is there, but you just can't quite place, is to go to the standard 'Search' box at the top of every page and first type "WP:" (albeit without the quote marks.) Then, with no space after the colon, type one of more keywords that you think could possibly be a likely title of a help page. e.g. WP:Verifiable - you'll likely get three or four suggestions of possible page titles, like "WP:Verifiable sources" which then leads you to "Wikipedia:Reliable sources" where a quick scroll through leads to the link to the page given above. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:59, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

@Spy-cicle:, If a source is not named in the list mentioned above, you can often find comments about it in the archives of Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Scroll down until you see "Search the noticeboard archives", then enter the source's name in the search box. If the source has been discussed on the RS Noticeboard, a link to that discussion should appear in the search results. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:14, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Two questions

Hi, I wanted to ask two things, first is if adding links to the reflist is enough to have them as references. Second, is there anyone or any way for someone to review my article before it gets review by Wikipedia to make sure i make the necessary changes for my article to get approved and posted.

Thank you, JuntasCambianos. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JuntasCambiamos (talk • contribs) 02:52, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

• Welcome, JuntasCambiamos. I assume you are asking about User:JuntasCambiamos/sandbox/Goleadoras.

To answer your first question, yes, the "reflist" just means the "list of references". I see in your draft that you managed to make some inline citations, which is exactly what you should do.

To answer the second question, there is no real distinction between "review by Wikipedia" and review by "anyone" - you submitted your article via the WP:AFC process and it will bring some review by a Wikipedia editor; AfC reviewers do not have anything special compared to the rest of us volunteer editors.

That being said, your draft is very unlikely to be accepted as-is. The most obvious problem is that it is not written in a neutral point of view: sentences such as harnessing the power (...) to transform the self-confidence, sense of solidarity, ambition, perseverance, and well-being, took action, as the circumstances in her country worsened, world-class singer, actor, and author, and so on are not acceptable in an encyclopedia article - an article should be written in a boring way and avoid eliciting emotions from the reader.

That problem could be fixed; however, there is a bigger one. On Wikipedia, we only have articles on "notable" topics, meaning those that have been dealt at length in independent reliable sources. You should include references in the article that show this - typically, for NGOs, you would look for newspaper articles describing the organization's activities. Of the current references, the first three are not independent (Goleadoras' website and websites for projects it launched), and the fourth one does not deal about the NGO. (Note also that simply having famous footballers, singers etc. as "ambassadors" does not automatically make an organization notable.) I do not see much from a quick web search that could show notability. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 08:35, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Need help with 'This article relies too much on references to primary sources.'

Hello, I've been working on a film festival article that had lots of problems. It was missing all of its original links... They were all dead links because the individual links were compiled into one large pdf. These links were mostly all from the festival's website. I modified plus removed some of the content and located multiple newspaper articles to support the remaining content. There had been several tags added. They were removed but one was added back again,'This article relies too much on references to primary sources.' I've worked considerably more on the article to resolve the issue but am not experienced enough to fully understand if the only issue is the use of the festival's website. Could someone please kindly take a look? Yorkton Film Festival Thank you!LorriBrown (talk) 02:59, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

There's a lot of low-quality sources cited in that article. There's probably some good ones as well, though my quick search failed to find any. I suggest you remove most or all of those that are based on interviews or press releases, and those that don't discuss the subject. A few good sources will give a better impression than 60 mostly poor ones. Maproom (talk) 07:45, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

@LorriBrown: Courtesy link to what Maproom just described: WP:BOMBARD, in particular the last paragraph. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 08:37, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Preposition question re article title

The article is Historiographic issues about the American Civil War, which I retitled from Issues of the American Civil War, that seemed confusingly close to Causes of the American Civil War, which takes you to Origins of the American Civil War.

My question is, "is 'about' the right preposition?" Should it be "of"? "regarding"? deisenbe (talk) 06:54, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Personally, I prefer "about". Maproom (talk) 06:57, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

@Deisenbe: I prefer "of", as a re-cast of "The American Civil War's Historiographic Issues". This should probably be asked on the talk page or, since it is not watched much, an appropriate Wikiproject. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 07:13, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

It isn't an appropriate question for a Wikiproject or the talk page either, it's a question about English. It's not, or shouldn't be, subjective. I don't know how to contact experts on English prepositions. deisenbe (talk) 07:17, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

You can try asking at Wikipedia:Reference desk. As for questions about English not being subjective, that might depend upon the nature of the question. While it might be nice to think that there should only be one clear-cut answer to every question, things tend to actually be a little more complicated. English is used by so many people around the world and there are so many different national varieties of English (see MOS:ENGVAR) that the answers you get may vary depending upon who you ask. Moreover, there's nothing wrong with asking for opinions on the article's talk page since it is a discussion about the title of the article. It's OK to be BOLD and move a page, but you'd be expected to discuss it on the article's talk page if someone disagrees and challenges the move; so, the same could be said regarding whether to use "about" or "of". Determining which to use may ultimately come down to WP:CONSENSUS established on the article's talk page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:26, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Like MJ, my answer (a preference) was also based on my belief that it is subjective. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 10:16, 12 September 2019 (UTC)