Talk:2010s/Archive 2
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Music Prediction
"vaily simular"? What the heck does that mean? Don't want to take it out in case I'm just dumb but that makes no sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.32.241 (talk • contribs) 20:36, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- No, it doesn't make sense to me either; the author should explain or delete. In fact, the entire "Music" section needs redoing -- it sounds like someone just putting forward their personal view without any references or sources. I'd change it, but I have no information to replace it at the moment, and don't want to leave it blank — Preceding unsigned comment added by RobertLovesPi (talk • contribs) 01:57, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
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No mention of YouTube?
YouTube is only a footnote in this article, which I'd be willing to disagree with as it has proven a massive part of popular culture in the 2010s. Bold and Brash (talk) 10:17, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
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Broken gallery
@Bold and Brash: The table of images of North American political events was broken. I tried to reformat it, but there seems no reason to include it at all. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:30, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- Felt the images conveyed the most notable political events concerning that region, if the gallery was broken its probably best to leave it out. Bold and Brash (talk) 17:20, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- It was broken in the sense that it forced its way past the right margin, even on my desktop. On my mobile (in desktop mode), it doubled the width of the article. If it could be redone allowing line breaks ... it probably would have gone vertical. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 07:56, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
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So how can we able to condense the size of this article to suitability?
Anyone have any ideas? How much is too much? —AppleWormBoy (talk) 22:52, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
- By splitting oversized sections into logically separate articles, as per WP:SPINOUT. 77.126.74.132 (talk) 18:56, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- Say no more :) —AppleWormBoy (talk) 18:41, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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A prototype of the 2010s decade collage
Since there was already a previous discussion on what to include in the collage of this decade, I figured I'd share mine. (From left, clockwise: Rise of ISIS from the Syrian Civil War/Arab Spring, Obama and Biden waiting on updates on the death of Osama Bin Laden, Bitcoin gaining popularity, smartphones and tablets also gained prominence, the 2010 Haiti earthquake, Brexit, DPRK-USA summit, Wedding of Kate and Prince William, and the Chile Mine accident.) —AppleWormBoy (talk) 14:03, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
- I personally don't find Bitcoin representative of the decade, it's more of a hype that quickly fizzled out. I will probably pick something like the Harlem Shake to represent the rise of internet culture, meme culture and the ubiquity of video-sharing sites instead. But it's probably more considered to wait for this kind of stuff until we really reach around the end. A major event can still happen in the next 12 months.
- --213.49.227.46 (talk) 12:34, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, very true. —AppleWormBoy (talk) 13:25, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- The appearance of smartphones and tablets were definitely a massive, global, cultural shift. Smartphones should 100% be in the collage. However, Bitcoin was a minor trend, and should not be in the collage. Likewise, the British Royal family was relatively insignificant wrt pop culture outside of the UK, and should not be added either... -Harhar88
- I would suggest an image of one of the early protests of the Arab Spring, which changed the Arab world in many ways and one of Occupy Wall Street, representative of the rise of anti-economic inequality sentiment/populism. RiverCastle (talk) 13:13, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- Okay, so no go on the Royal Family, but one on the Occupy Wall Street protest and Arab Spring. Interesting. What else? —AppleWormBoy (talk) 19:03, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- Ok I suppose I will share my thoughts. I too say that the royal wedding is not needed. If they had ascended to the throne maybe, but they haven't. I am more fine with bit coin but I do agree there are better events. The Arab Spring is pretty important, but in some way I guess the ISIS picture. Could represent both. I would be fine with 2 separate pictures though, one or ISIS and one for the Spring. I would say something about the progress of LGBT rights is important, as many countries have legalized homosexuals and other have legalized gay marriage. Personally I think it's important enough to be included. I like the discussion and I think we should keep it going, but I still say no montage should be posted to the original page tell the end of the decade. Only 1 year away though, so we're not far. Khscarymovie4 (talk) 01:49, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Ah, okay. -AppleWormBoy (talk) 03:24, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
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- My two cents -> Yes: ISIS, Brexit, the rise of smartphones, diffusion of same sex marriage, Arab Spring. Maybe: Occupy Movement, Bitcoin, Haiti earthquake, meme culture. No: Royal family (low impact events), mining accident (too small and local), death of Osama bin Laden (highly mediatised low impact event), Trump- Kim Jong Un summit (highly mediatised as well, in this regard I would only feature a possible reunification of Korea when/if that happens). I think we have already enough political developments, I would fill the rest with additional social (what about #MeToo?) or technological developments (not an expert on this). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dadoso90 (talk • contribs) 16:55, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- Well, let's see what I have so far: Brexit, Arab Spring, ISIS, smartphones, same-sex marriage being more tolerant amongst people, Haiti earthquake, finding water on Mars (science-related) and the Occupy movement. All righty, then. —AppleWormBoy (talk) 03:10, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- Isn't there a less generic looking picture for smartphones/tablets? The almost-entirely white image clashes with the rest and is very attention grabbing.
- --213.49.64.160 (talk) 01:34, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'll see if I can find a picture of a smartphone and tablet (probably together) and insert it into the new collage. —AppleWormBoy (talk) 13:25, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- Something that absolutely MUST be on there is the new global competition for machine learning and AI systems. A good image could be IBM's Watson defeating the world Jeopardy champion, or Google's AlphaGo defeating the world champion at Go. As of the mid-2010s AIs have been in every aspect of daily life in the developed world, appearing in everything from search engines, to speech recognition, stock trading, real estate transactions, movie suggestions, control systems, etc. This all occurred thanks to renewed interest/research in Artificial Neural Networks in the early 2010s, and the massive increases in computing power that occurred over the decade. You could add a chart showing the exponential increases in computing power that occured over the 2010s. All major corporations (Google, etc), and many governments (USA and China) have stated many times over the decade that they are heavily invested in achieving AI supremacy. -Harhar88
- A few additional suggestions ... 1) An image for shrinking population of developed countries such as Japan (the population of japan started shrinking in the early 2010s and has only accelerated). Every country in the world has seen fertility rates plummet over the 2010s, except for the population explosion occurring exclusively in Africa. 2) The rise of the digital oligopoly, specifically referring to the "big five" (Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, and Amazon), which dominate the majority of the technology industry. 3) An image for the rising global prominence of China, and their slowing economy. 4) Electric car industry appears and gains huge momentum -Harhar88
- Here is another possible prototype that I uploaded to imgur .. https://imgur.com/a/IozzSNr — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harhar88 (talk • contribs) 08:32, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
- I'll see what I can do with those suggestions, but I feel as if the oligarchy/Big Tech part is a bit of a stretch. The collage should be more of a generalization of almost every field of human interest within the 2010s. I don't think we should delve further like that.
—AppleWormBoy (talk) 20:48, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
- I think we should include one of these ones
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Virtual Reality
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Rise of eletric cars
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boston dynamics - AI e Robots
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Army Drone
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Drone
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Mosul - war aganis ISIS
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Kendrick Lamar
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Kim Jong Un and Moon Jae-In
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Smartwatch
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Raqqa - Syrian Civil War
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Arab Spring
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NSA LEAKS
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Edward Snowden
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Fukushima
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Pluto
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Netflix
Mateus Zica (talk) 19:31, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- ^Definitely. :) —AppleWormBoy (talk) 21:40, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
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Adding Croatian EU accession to the "Prominent_political_events#Europe" subsection
I'm not experienced with editing Wikipedia articles, but surely if the Brexit referendum (United Kingdom European Union membership referendum, 2016) has a slot, then the actual accession of Croatia to the EU (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_enlargement_of_the_European_Union) is also worth mentioning.
109.202.107.147 (talk) 12:14, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
New collage mockup
I've put together a revised version of User:AppleWormBoy's proposal for a decade collage based on the preceding discussion. I replaced the war room image (an arguably America-centric image/event to highlight) with a photo of the Tahrir Square protests (as suggested above). Between Tahrir Square and the ISIS flag, I think the situation in the Middle East is reasonably well pictorially represented; while the Syrian War is important, I'm wary of these collages becoming uniform patchworks of rubble and indistinct crowds just because that's what a lot of important events look like. In the middle, then, I substituted a representative image of the European migrant crisis.
One big consideration, in my opinion, is visually distinct images which cover multiple features of the decade. So, for example, even though the Trump-Kim summit isn't the decade's most important event, it's an iconic image and it means we don't have to find a way of including a second image with Donald Trump in it; he's covered. Likewise, the image of the Tesla roadster in space is also an iconic picture, and it covers both private space travel and electric vehicles. I think that with the European migrant crisis covered, including a separate image for Brexit (which is hard to represent visually anyway) isn't ideal, so I substituted an image representing the Russian annexation of Crimea, a major geopolitical event.
Since people objected to the provinciality of the Chilean mine collapse, I substituted the lead image for our article on Xi Jinping, arguably the most powerful man in the world and one of the most important leaders of the decade.
If anyone has any better ideas for how to represent smartphones I'd be interested - my ideal would be something like this image, but with Twitter or something on the screen (to represent social media in a visually appealing way). The black outlines aren't the greatest.
I also wasn't sure what to put in the upper right (although I agree with the consensus that Bitcoin was the wrong choice), so I stuck a pride flag there - although frankly, I think a more iconic image, like File:Celebrating a new America -lovewins 58242 (18588276403).jpg, would be preferable if we're going to represent LGBT rights.
This is meant as a conversation starter; a hopefully-more-appealing proposal for how to go forward. ∴ ZX95 [discuss] 23:14, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- Very insightful analysis. I actually agree with most of the pictures on your draft, except for Xi Jinping. Usually, decade montages here on Wikipedia don't have single major figures represented and more to do with all emblematic events. And plus, why shouldn't Brexit be on there? It's a significant catapult to most of Britain being distrustful over the European Union and would (probably) change the course of the UK's political history if the no-deal exit ever becomes engaged. —AppleWormBoy (talk) 23:43, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Nice collage, but I agree, Brexit should be somewhere on the collage as its own separate panel. It was a major disruption to decades of EU agreements (involving a significant number of countries), and may have ramifications wrt the EU's future.
- Seconded - the 'we voted leave' image used elsewhere seemed an ideal representation of not only Brexit but the broader populist movement in the west, which is an absolute **must** for the collage. Drones also seemed a potentially good shout. Also, not too sure about the Tesla in space either, doesn't seem a necessarily momentous event. - Half past formerly SUFCboy 16:20, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
It's certainly an improvement, but I personally don't like how crowded the upper middle image is. It's certainly hard to make up what it supposed to be (Arab Spring?). I also agree that the Xi Jinping picture is pretty cumbersome in how it is supposed to be representative of a whole decade. A Brexit-related picture would probably be preferable. The smartphone/tablet picture is also not ideal. --193.191.131.98 (talk) 11:46, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
- Saw comments regarding Brexit and Xi Jingping and made a draft accordingly, CaptainLeslieHero (talk) 16:49, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Looks good! Now is there a nicer alternative for the smartphone picture?
- --213.49.196.232 (talk) 11:20, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Reason for removing the "too long" tag
I believe that I sufficed the problem of unnecessary text length for this article. I've reduced and/or deleted some sections or portions that I perceive to be useless. So, if there's anything else you would like me to reduce or whatever, then reply. :) -AppleWormBoy (talk) 13:21, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
Image for new collage mockup
Hey guys, I think we should use Black hole - Messier 87 crop max res.jpg, the first image of a black hole in the new collage mock-up as it signifies agruably the greatest scientific achievement of this decade. Thanks.
For the first mockup, below, I praise who mad it for their insight and initiative, but I, personally, generally dislike it, because I feel it is badly layered, with poor choices for images, most of which are very much america-centric and only deal with the latter half of this decade. Also, it boycotts popular culture, which has rapidly transformed in this decade, as well as the needless hyperbole of a man in car "driving" to mars. I will make my own and submit it for opinion.
new mockup
what you guys reckon? I've put all these cultural landmarks that defined this decade, from the rise of far-right extremism and populism (see Jacinda Arden on the day of the mosque shootings and the brexiteer) to the further civil rights movement in this era with the iconic still from "Get Out", and the rainbow flag symbolising further LBGTQ+ culture. I overlkayed with a copy of the mueller report, which i don't think you can notice. This is just a first draft, so give me some tips and I'll let you all know.
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