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Duplicate articles
There should be a guideline for what should happen to draftspace articles if they are either copy/paste moved to mainspace, or are independently created whilst the draft exists in parallel. This has happened to Liam Stocker (Draft:Liam Stocker). When the draft article was declines, the player was not notable by WP:NAFL being a drafted player who hadn't yet played professionally. He now has, and the draft article creator did a copy/paste move, not a move. Should I CSD the draftspace article under G6, or manually delete the page and replace it with a redirect to the mainspace article? This scenario can't be that unusual, and whatever the preferred solution is, it should be listed in the Wikipedia:Drafts#Deleting a draft section. The-Pope (talk) 13:44, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
- @The-Pope: WP:HISTMERGE. wumbolo ^^^ 15:29, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
- OK, that works for copy paste moves, but what about articles that exist in draftspace, but have an independently developed mainspace article created in parallel? Either way, this advice should be on the Wikipedia:Drafts#Deleting a draft section. The-Pope (talk) 08:46, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
What to do?
Hyehwa Station Protest was recently moved into main space from user space, but the article doesn't look anything like ready to me. Not sure that covering it with cleanup templates would be constructive, and AfD might be too heavy handed. Looks like it was created as part of some external course. Would moving it to draft space be appropriate in this case? PC78 (talk) 23:11, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
- Moving to draft space is only useful if it has hope of being an article, or someone will benefit by editing it. If you can find two references to add then that might be as much effort as trying to make an AFD argument, and more useful. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:15, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
- I manually re-userfied, with an explanation at User talk:Ypark025#Hyehwa Station Protest. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:21, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. I had a quick look for sources since I'm not familiar with the subject, it appears that there have been at least five related protests outside this station over the past year so the article may have merit. It was woefully under developed though. PC78 (talk) 10:53, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
- Crikey, now there's Domestic violence among Korean-American immigrants which is quite substantial but completely lacking in references and therefore suspect with regard to WP:OR. PC78 (talk) 22:58, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
- I left a note at User_talk:NicoleNourian#Domestic_violence_among_Korean-American_immigrants. I is part of Wikipedia:Wiki Ed/UCLA/FemiKorea (Spring 2019). --SmokeyJoe (talk) 00:35, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
- Crikey, now there's Domestic violence among Korean-American immigrants which is quite substantial but completely lacking in references and therefore suspect with regard to WP:OR. PC78 (talk) 22:58, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. I had a quick look for sources since I'm not familiar with the subject, it appears that there have been at least five related protests outside this station over the past year so the article may have merit. It was woefully under developed though. PC78 (talk) 10:53, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
- I manually re-userfied, with an explanation at User talk:Ypark025#Hyehwa Station Protest. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:21, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
What to do with a draft when the article has been created separately?
Urbit has been created and is cited to pretty okay RSes. I just found Draft:Urbit, which is an entirely separate effort to create an article, and was rejected at AFC. What should be done with the draft? (Apart from mining it for RSes.) - David Gerard (talk) 12:46, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
- David Gerard, WP:HISTMERGE to preserve WP:ATTRIBUTION for the rescued RSs & REDIR the draft to the article? Cabayi (talk) 17:05, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Draft moved prematurely to article space multiple times - what to do?
Draft:Kurt Iswarienko. RS, BLP, POV, NOT vios. I'm very tired of this, and unsure on how to proceed. Suggestions appreciated. --Ronz (talk) 16:27, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Caution the editor moving it live with problems & without review? Cabayi (talk) 17:02, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Tried that, and offered to help.
- Draft is now protected and has an AfC template. Thanks! --Ronz (talk) 20:10, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Drafts with possibilities?
Is there something like a 'Drafts with possibilities' category or holding cell somewhere?... (If there is, it's not well advertised!) Such a thing might be a good idea – to be able to tag drafts that probably are notable, so that they are put in a cat or holding cell so other interested editors can take a look at them. Because I sometimes come across Drafts that I don't necessarily intend to "finish", but which other editors probably could quickly work on and promote to Mainspace... Just a thought. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:34, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- There is. Template:Promising draft adds a draft to Category:Promising draft articles. --Worldbruce (talk) 16:36, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- OK, it's good to know this – but I would say this has been under advertised, and needs to be promoted more to the wider editorship. Right now, there aren't that many drafts in Category:Promising draft articles, which leads me to think that most people don't know about it... But I'll go ahead and tag the draft I'm thinking of thusly. It would also be nice if Template:Promising draft had, like, a
reason
parameter so that a specific rationale could be added to the text of 'Promising draft' tag. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:40, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- OK, it's good to know this – but I would say this has been under advertised, and needs to be promoted more to the wider editorship. Right now, there aren't that many drafts in Category:Promising draft articles, which leads me to think that most people don't know about it... But I'll go ahead and tag the draft I'm thinking of thusly. It would also be nice if Template:Promising draft had, like, a
Problem with Drafts - loss of important history
I used to create articles without any problem - a stub with a single reference would be sufficient for an article to be seen and worked on by other editors. Now I find that my articles go to draftspace, and it seems that I alone am required to prove the notability etc. What happened to cooperation? In particular, I feel that there are many notable firms from Britain's past that it is hard or impossible to find good secondary sources for. An Example is my recent page draft:Erie Resistor Company. Erie resistors abound in early radios, as every radio man knows, the name was very well known, and as I have written, Erie employed ten percent of the Great Yarmouth working age population, yet refs. are hard to find. Surely the notability is obvious in the fact given which the reader can readily prove. Original research? Maybe, but do we really want our history to be lost when Wikipedia has no data limitation problem. Surely just having a 'needs more citation' template is enough for an article to remain permanently unless there are other good reasons to take it down, and the best chance of improving it comes from having it visible to all? Another problem firm was Repanco - known to every man who made radios in his youth. Collaro, I succeeded with, though sources are sparse. Good, because they made most of the record player mechanisms in our past - surely notable! Lindosland (talk) 12:24, 25 September 2019 (UTC)