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The Actual Definition of Irony
Person 1 implies A. Person 2 infers B. Observation C contradicts B. Irony is tragic when C also contradicts A.
- Example: Bob says to Jim, "Nice day, huh?". Jim replies, "It's raining, ain't nothing nice about it.". Bob was not talking about the weather, he was talking about the attractive woman who just walked by.
- Example + Tragic: Bob later notices that, because of the bad weather, attractive women rarely walk around outside.
- Irony is dramatic irony when the true audience is privy to the knowledge that person 2 is wrong.
This definition satisfies the need for a double audience, explains the confusion around the contradiction, and shows how sarcasm can be a useful component of irony. It also explains that there is a marked and objectively observable difference between sarcasm, contradiction, coincidence, tragedy, and irony. Epigeios (talk) 14:39, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
I think the actual definition of ironic is a unique relationship between two entirely different events. Lightbodyslady (talk) 20:54, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
Oedipus Rex
I didn't see anything on Oedipus Rex, which was an ironic masterpiece written by the Greek playwright Sophocles. This should be in there somewhere, as it is a perfect example of irony in literature. --Danny Starman (talk) 17:17, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
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A current example of irony is the ideology of preventing free speech and freedom of expression while claiming to be anti-fascist. WritefulChange (talk) 17:10, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 19:03, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
- Also, WP:SOAP. Prinsgezinde (talk) 13:07, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
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ADD to the list of historical irony
First Lady Melania Trump promoting "Be Best," an anti-bullying campaign to combat the harmful effects of social media, while her husband, President Donald Trump, is considered by many to use social media to insult and discredit people who are perceived as his political enemies (references 1 and 2).
References:
- Tillett, Emily (2018-08-20). "Melania Trump warns of "destructive and harmful" impacts of social media at bullying summit".
- Waldman, Katy (2018-05-08). "The Childlike Strangeness of Melania Trump's "Be Best" Campaign".
Canoelover (talk) 18:59, 22 August 2018 (UTC) Canoelover (talk) 18:59, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Not done: The list already has several examples of historical irony. I don't think it is a good idea to add this; it is controversial and may violate Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. Gulumeemee (talk) 03:50, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Self-irony listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Self-irony. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Hildeoc (talk) 22:15, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
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ADD to the external links:
- "Meteorologist drowns swimming in rough surf in spite of weather alert from employer". ABC News. 2019-10-03.