User talk:Erp

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Wedgwoods

Just sortof happened (I started at Charles Darwin originally and just worked my way round. — Dunc|☺ 09:24, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Too many peases

I'm trying to sort out various items called Pease (have created a Pease (disambiguation) page). But have a concern: There seems to be two articles on the same or similar subjects Pease pudding and Pease Porridge Hot. Not sure how to handle that.--Erp 02:07, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see the conflict... On the disambiguation page, just put on one line "Pease pudding, a

sort of Pease pudding,< /br > Pease Porridge Hot, a modified version of the Pease pudding." I actually have no idea what either are, I'll read both articles later and see if there's any problem I can see for myself. GofG _|^|_| Contribs 02:25, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

the main problem is that both refer to the nursery rhyme but with two different forms of the rhyme and I don't think any cross reference. Pease Pudding and Pease Porridge might or might not be different dishes (regional dialects?). I think one article is needed for the nursery rhyme and one for the culinary dish(es) with cross references. Would that be ok? --Erp 02:37, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see why not. Sounds good actually. GofG _|^|_| Contribs 03:05, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for the help. I've now put things in, I think, an appropriate order. --Erp 04:35, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fry Family

I'm glad you managed to get a bit of a hold on the Fry's Chocolate Lords :) After I made my comment about the Chocolate article, I poked around for a while and couldn't find any decent sources.Paul Drye

Scouting

You may want to chime in at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Scouting#Spiral_Scouts, or if you prefer, leave a msg on my talk page. At first I was opposed, but then realized I was just unknoweledgeable about your Spiral Scouts International organization, which you should be able to deduce from the talk. Please provide your side of the story. Rlevse 23:40, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. You make some good comments. I'd only point out there are some youth groups that definitely don't fall under Scouting, most of them were/are in countries ruled by strong dictators, see like Falcons, Hitler Youth, and Young Pioneers.Rlevse 02:55, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

See the article and project talk. Rlevse 11:45, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Scouting Lists in GSUSA

Can you help prosify the lists in GSUSA? I tried, but I struggle. Darthgriz 9 8 02:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey way to go on finding that info and helping with the lists! Where did you find it, a book? Darthgriz 9 8 22:42, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Careful googling. Got much of the info on roundups off a stamp collecting web site. I've heard but could not confirm that the national roundups ended when the Military pulled support from them (military support continued for the BSA jamborees). --Erp 23:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Scouting

Hi Erp. I see you are a regular contributor to Scouting articles, especially Girl Scout related ones. We need more people knowledgeable in that area. Please formally join the Scouting project at: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Scouting#Participants_and_primary_areas_of_interest. Rlevse 01:41, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For someone who never joined the project, you sure are active in it lately--;) grin. Glad you are participating. It still think it's one method, no matter what you call it and focusing on splitting hairs merely perpetuates division. We should focus on unity, not splitting the movement apart more than it is. All colors of a rose are still a rose. Rlevse 22:58, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

scout?

You were a scout? Darthgriz 9 8 19:21, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, Brownies through Seniors back in the 70's. Even did some caving out in Pennsylvania which I believe is your homestate. --Erp 01:12, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ha good old PA, by the way, can you turn the program aims into prose? I'm not quite sure how to word them. After that, I think it might be ready to submit for GA. Darthgriz 9 8 14:42, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

prosified and gave reference. I cut a lot of the text since I couldn't find the source.--Erp 19:22, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Alfred Fox

Thanks for tidying up the children of Alfred and Sarah (born Lloyd) Fox. I must try to acquire a more organised editing method.

I see that you are interested in the Pease and Fry families. Do you have a particular interest in Quaker bankers and industrialist?

=== Vernon White (talk) 08:10, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm distantly related to both families (very distantly in the case of the Darlington Peases and I'm not 100% sure of the Fry connection). Not knowingly related to the Fox family but I visited Glendurgan earlier this year and noted their connection to the Darlington Peases. What is your interest?--Erp 21:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am interested in 19th C Quakers and recently moved to Cornwall, near Glendurgan, Trebah and Penjerrick Garden. I love Barclay and Caroline Fox's journals. I am a member of the Royal Cornwall Polytechnic Society. BTW, Alfred's brother, Charles' daughter, Juliet and Alfred's brother Robert's son, Barclay, both married into the Darlington Backhouse family. I expect you are distantly related to them too.

Best === Vernon White (talk) 22:05, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think most of the Quaker families of the time in England were related by blood or marriage since the Society of Friends up until the late 19th century tended to disapprove of marrying out; though I don't know of any blood connection to the Backhouse family (or the Fox family). So know anything about Friends Provident? Falmouth region is a lovely area, my grandmother use to spend her vacations as a child near Helford and Manaccan starting in the 1920s and continued family vacations even when she married and had children and grandchildren. --Erp 00:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Friends Provident

Do I know anything? Not much.

First line

"Friends Provident plc (LSE: FP.) manages a life assurance business in the United Kingdom"

seems to miss the huge asset-management wings of the company. The distinctive "ethical" flavour of the firm should be in the first para too.

There was a lot of correspondence in The Friend at the time of demutualisation but customers who are Fds must be a very tiny part of the business. I hear there's a bar in the staff club at the Dorking Offices, which probably means the management were a long way away from their Nineteenth Century Quaker Founders by the time the place was built (? in the 1960s). I'm reading Elizabeth Isichei's Victorian Quakers at present and will find out about this background.

BTW the Backhouses intermarried with the Peases and the Director of Barclays who bankrupted several Peases in 1904 was Sir Jonathan Edmund Backhouse, 1st Baronet, (November 15, 1849 - July 27, 1918). === Vernon White (talk) 22:32, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The first non-Quaker general manager of Friends Provident, Henry John Tapscott, took over in 1916; however, he was married to a Friend and was involved in various Friendlike activities such as the anti-slavery movement. He did move Friends Provident to London, but, I suspect the bar showed up post his term. I don't know much beyond that myself--Erp 23:19, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Religion in Scouting

Had "Judeo-Christian" for AHG, since that is how they self-identify. No big deal.