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Wikimedia Cloud links for current events

I'd like to suggest Wikimedia Cloud links as an option for certain current events items, when suitable. In particular, I'd like to suggest a supplementary link for Armistice Day commemorations worldwide next week for Wikispore Events, in addition to the BBC or other newssite links: i.e., (Wikispore).--Pharos (talk) 16:59, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Planning to do this again for World AIDS Day observances worldwide.--Pharos (talk) 03:18, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2019 Hong Kong Protests

How come they are no longer in "Ongoing" if they are still going on? ωικιωαrrιorᑫᑫ1ᑫ 13:28, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion: Section for weather events and extreme natural disasters (ongoing and not).

In regards to (CielProfond (talk) 13:21, 4 November 2019 (UTC))'s comment above, is there a valid reason for NOT having these sorts of things documented in current events? At least if they make new records or have resulted in a lot of damage or accidents? Asking. Thanks. - Random User, 02:00, 28 November 2019 (UTC).

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Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Portal:Current events. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. Izno (talk) 14:25, 28 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 5 December 2019

It has been proposed in this section that Portal:Current events be renamed and moved to Wikipedia:Current events.
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Portal:Current events → Wikipedia:Current events – Wikipedia:Contents was just moved. I believe this and Portal:Featured content should be moved as well to be consistent. Interstellarity (talk) 19:08, 5 December 2019 (UTC) —Relisting. — Newslinger talk 17:14, 14 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support move to project space. This was originally in the project space and was unilaterally moved to the Portal space without discussion. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:25, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support this is definitely more of a project page than a portal page.– BrandonXLF (talk) 19:54, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Content pages should never be placed at Wikipedia namespace. --NaBUru38 (talk) 17:22, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

All of the Did You Know content pages also reside in the Wikipedia namespace, in the subpages of Wikipedia:Recent additions. UnitedStatesian (talk) 22:58, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Looks more like a web portal that i've seen on the Internet. SMB99thx XD (contribs)
Oppose. Would make it seem the page was for discussion or planning, not content. Hyperbolick (talk) 00:25, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose It wouldn't make sense to have it in the Wikipedia namespace. It should stay where it is. Felicia (talk) 20:25, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Isn't like many other portals; has a link on the left side of the page all times as well. --Bluecrab2 (talk) 21:03, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with moving the page away from its current title (since it clearly isn't a WP:Portal), but not necessarily to the suggested location. But, I can't really think of a better one. So, I guess I support this. ansh.666 22:26, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - This shouldn't be Wikipedia namespace, it is far too open to almost anyone to edit. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:05, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
But many pages in the WP space are open to everyone to edit as well, deletion discussions and noticeboards for example. ansh.666 09:25, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I want to remind others in general that WP:OSE, in this particular case we are talking about a highly viewed page. I do not see any benefit in the rationale other than "x did it, so we should do it too". - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:25, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. There would no be good shortcuts to it because WP:CE is obviously taken unless we debase ourselves and steal WP:CUR. :P
Either way, I notified watchers of WP:CEN of this potential change.^{Before anyone claims I didn't give a real rationale, the distinction between projectspace, helpspace, and portalspace is aesthetic at best.}
–MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 06:35, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose the reasons stated are not relevant bringing old portals into the same namespace because they both used to be portals?, as an entry portal current events is a driver, Wiki:Contents is not, this almost seems as a back door rehash of the remove the portal name space discussion again, and as per, there was no direct benefit associated and that change and was not approved.121.99.108.78 (talk) 07:01, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This has nothing to do with the portal namespace discussions, as Portal:Current events, like the former Portal:Featured content, isn't a traditional WP:Portal in the first place, having basically nothing in common with the pages that were being considered in the namespace discussion besides location. ansh.666 09:24, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Strongly oppose if it ain't broke, don't fix it.Arglebargle79 (talk) 13:03, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – It isn't a typical portal, but it's a portal nonetheless. Wikipedia:Contents really isn't a very portal-like page, and there were other reasons behind that move. I don't see a compelling reason to move it to project namespace. Master of Time (talk) 13:25, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose - Changing from "Portal" to "Wikipedia" will imply that this is a WikiProject. This is the official definition of a WikiProject: "A WikiProject is a group of editors interested in collaborating on a specific topic within Wikipedia. A WikiProject is a group of people, not a set of pages, a subject area, or a category. The pages of a WikiProject serve as a central place for coordination, discussion, and organization of the group's activities related to the specific topic. WikiProject pages may be used to develop criteria, maintain various collaborative processes, keep track of work that needs to be done, and act as a forum where relevant issues may be discussed."
The CE Portal is not a group of people. It is definitely a subject area (current affairs around the world). To debase the CE page to, essentially, a WikiProject is insane as well as inappropriate. Kiteinthewind ^{Leave a message!} 13:50, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Kiteinthewind: Not all project space pages are for WikiProjects. WP:AN/I, WP:RFA, WP:WOOD, WP:V, etc. are not related to WikiProjects. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 17:20, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@MJL: The ones you listed are WP spaces relating to the administrative works needed to maintain this project, so it can be said that these are WikiProjects relating to the administration of Wikipedia. My argument still stands, that by demoting CE to a WikiProject, it not only does not serve a purpose at all, but endangers the CE page and degrades the credibility of Wikipedia as a whole. Kiteinthewind ^{Leave a message!} 17:32, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - I disagree that consistency is a relevant factor here; Wikipedia:Contents and Portal:Current_events serve very different purposes, and I believe the portal space is a more appropriate home for Current_events. ComplexParadigm • Talk 16:24, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - There was no discusssion so u wanted it? Well so now u have. And deal with how it turned out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.11.45.160 (talk) 20:19, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - the fact that current events is one of the most active portals on en Wikipedia was one of the arguments why the discussion last year was closed with the decision to keep the portals instead of deleteing or moving them. There are multiple other issues and precedents this move would make as mentioned in the above !votes. Inter&anthro (talk) 21:16, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Portal:Current events may not be a traditional Wikipedia portal (though it acts like a general Web Portal), but it would be out-of-place in the Wikipedia namespace. Most of the pages in there (except for a few odd ones) are only of interest to Wikipedia editors. Iwilsonp (talk) 04:57, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support - This page is very popular and goes beyond what is just simple a Portal page. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 22:47, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - It acts more as a general portal for current event stuff and I don't see how using the name Wikipedia instead would be helpful. So, I think keeping the name Portal is the best way to go. boldblazer 22:53, 20 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - This page looks like and acts as a portal. It's not intended exclusively for editors which a lot of the WP namespace pages are. User:GKFX^talk 09:23, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Strange and unneeded proposal, accomplishes very little if anything. KingAntenor (talk) 16:19, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cyber attack being notable.

Is a cyber attack on Pensacola Florida notable enough to be a current event? Elijahandskip (talk) 19:57, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What lasting effects did the attack have? Other cities have been paralyzed by cyber attacks, yet I don't see them with stand-alone articles. —C.Fred (talk) 20:00, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Afghanistan Papers

Are The Afghanistan Papers newsworthy? Victor Grigas (talk) 03:20, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just reviewed it is a developing story. Abishe (talk) 05:34, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Methane leak

Is this newsworthy? https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/16/climate/methane-leak-satellite.html Victor Grigas (talk) 19:39, 17 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say yes. May be worth it to create an article, too. Kingsif (talk) 14:56, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Catalan VP article not understandable

The article currently reads, "European Court of Justice sentences that jailed former Vice President of Catalonia Oriol Junqueras had immunity as an elected MEP so he was not unable to acquire the deputy act as Spanish Supreme Court ruled due to his then-provisional prison situation. (The Guardian)"

This is not understandable to me as a native English speaker. Can it be clarified? IAmNitpicking (talk) 18:29, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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