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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Notwally (talk | contribs) at 23:53, 3 March 2020 (→MACE pepper spray are Federally Registered Trademarks: r). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Immunity

Is it really possible to develop immunity to mace, like in Family Guy or the SNL skit, The Continetal? The Republican 03:14, 1 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite

This page may need a complete rewrite, not a simple expansion. The concept of "mace" is very confused and unclear to say the least... Anne 30-June-2006 —Preceding undated comment added 15:40, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Real mace

So is there any information on where "real" mace (i.e., not pepper spray) is found, or is legal, etc.? 67.175.75.186 04:50, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The number one selling product from Mace Security International, Inc. is Triple Action™. It includes CN, a tear gas, and OC, or Oleoresin Capsicum, and Ultraviolet (UV) marking dye.

It is legal in most of the states, except Michigan and Wisconsin. In Wisconsin, the dye has to be removed. In Michigan, the levels of OC and Tear Gas are regulated and the 2 substances can’t be mixed in the civilian models. In Massachusetts, it requires a Firearms Identification Card.

It is possible to increase your tolerance of Mace®, but I doubt you could ever be “immune” to it. Most police officers get sprayed with pepper spray, or Mace® in training and learn how to function while being exposed to it. It is similar in some respects to tear gas training in the military. I am new to this, but I can provide additional information on Mace® if requested. --24.38.59.194 20:48, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sentence

I think this sentence in the article is a bit suggestive: "easy overpowering e.g. by law enforcement officials over a criminal." I think it shouldn't say 'criminal' but 'suspect' or even 'person', because it is not the case that police officers only use mace on criminals. They would use it on anyone they think is a criminal. I'll change this if no objections come within a few days Squishycube 09:48, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

legality

What is the basis for the statement that it's not legal most places? Where is it legal? Why was it made illegal? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.88.123.57 (talk) 11:04, August 21, 2007 (UTC)

i would also like to know the basis of this. \ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.119.185.104 (talk) 02:50, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's illegal in the UK and also much of Europe. In the UK it's illegal to carry knives, sprays or any kind of weapon, and rightly so.Gymnophoria (talk) 12:32, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Terminology

“Mace” has always referred to CS/CN (chemical mace), not OC (pepperspray).75.211.247.198 (talk)A REDDSON —Preceding undated comment added 06:51, 29 January 2009 UTC)

Media Mentions

Are all the random mentions from television shows adding anything to the article? There's little value in saying that it was "Mentioned by the "waitress" in It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" if that's the extent of the reference. Ditto the other one offs. Not necessary to replicate every time mace is used in popular media, only notable examples with more context. 63.146.91.66 (talk) 16:52, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]


9/11 Commission

There is no reason, whatsoever, for this article to link to the NCTAUS page. I'm removing it. Zenblend (talk) 08:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Pepper Spray

I'd suggest merging this stub with the Pepper spray article. The terms mace and pepper spray seem to be used interchangeably, but both are used the same and have the same legal issues.Gymnophoria (talk) 12:35, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

>> Chemical Mace is not interchangeable with Pepper Spray. They are two entirely different chemicals that only share a common purpose. If you want to merge pepper spray, chemical mace, tear gas and others into a common defensive aerosol spray article then by all means, but they are not in anyway the same products. In fact, many countries which allow pepper spray, ban Chemical Mace, because of its phenacyl chloride component. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.18.124.10 (talk) 03:28, 27 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mace is An Active Trademark

Why do we need to continue reverting the Mace page? It's not a generacized trademark, but an active one. This is direct from corporate itself. Even with references added it has been reverted.

I'm unsure why it continues to be reverted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrHead790 (talk • contribs) 22:23, 9 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First?

At the beginning of the article it says that "...aerosol self defense spray invented by Allan Lee Litman in 1965. The first commercial product of its type..."

But in Germany, self defense aerosol sprays have been on the market with the brand "TW1000" since 1962. (http://www.tw1000.com/production.html)

This should be corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.91.10.135 (talk) 11:46, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

MACE pepper spray are Federally Registered Trademarks

Mace Security International, Inc. has the brand name for MACE pepper spray federally registered with the United States Patent and Trademark Office under various registrations including Registration Numbers 0888911 [1] and 1909927 [2].

Proper trademark use includes policing use by others and educating others on how to properly use a trademark so when they see a trademark brand they know they are buying an authentic product. It is important to reverse the false information on the Wikipedia page to correctly reflect that MACE brand is a registered brand name. MACE brand pepper spray indicates that the pepper spray is made by Mace Security International, Inc. Since trademarks are source identifiers, the MACE brand communicates to consumers that those MACE brand pepper sprays originate from Mace Security International, Inc. and are not a counterfeit product. Since the MACE trademark is federally registered, which is not reflected on the Wikipedia Page, I wanted to correctly reflect the MACE brand so people are not misinformed about the federal trademark status of the MACE brand and that consumers understand that a MACE brand pepper sprays are only authentic when the products use the MACE trademark.

Smith01010 (talk) 23:07, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=4810:hildp9.2.65
  2. ^ http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=4810:hildp9.2.46
This page already says that the term refers to a brand name, and it also is widely used to generically refer to pepper spray. I have added a source for the information, and so please stop removing it, as Wikipedia is based on what reliable sources say, not company marketing.
Further, if you are editing under IP as well as named accounts, you need to stop that as that could be viewed as sockpuppetry per WP:SOCK. If you have a conflict of interest or have an employment relationship with any involved entity, then you need to disclose that per WP:COI and follow the steps there. 23:52, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
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