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The reference for numbers of copies sold is wrong

The article says 25 Million copies were sold.

The support is this article which says 20 million copies were sold in 2012:

https://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/16/us/obit-stephen-covey/index.html

We need a better reference for 25M.

Franklin Covey offer one such support, but it's not clear at which date it reached 25M, and what the number is today:

This article says 25M copies were actually sold by 2012:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenkrogue/2012/07/16/stephen-r-covey-7-habits-author-dies-at-79/#7ef03f874f6d

Is it really 30M? Or is it more? How many units have been sold today?

This page suggests it's 30M:

https://www.eduplanet21.com/product/paiu-leadership-institute-7-habits-highly-effective-people/

Lauchlanmack (talk) 23:23, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

FALSE STATEMENT in the "First things first"

The article says: "Priority should be given in the following order:

   1) Important and Urgent
   2) Important and not Urgent
   3) Not Important and Urgent
   4) Not Important and not Urgent"

If I remember correctly, Covey underlines that the best leaders, in fact, put most of their attention to quadrant 2 (Important and not Urgent). This way the important stuff never becomes urgent. I.e. she can truly be a proactive leader instead of just constantly "putting out fires". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.59.206.179 (talk) 13:17, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Another vote for a Criticism section

And it reads like an advert or publisher's blurb. --78.147.28.172 (talk) 11:52, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chase is weird --Thesoupnzi (talk) 00:26, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The opening says the book was first published in 1939, when the author would have been a child. I'm thinking the correct date is 1989, as it is in the information column. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.211.185.217 (talk) 20:34, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How is this article even close to NPOV?! It reads like an advertisement. The guy couldn't even come up with a sensical definition of proactive, for Pete's sake!66.170.219.136 (talk) 00:38, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I also want to vote for a criticism section. I recently was forced to study this in a mandatory work environment. I would like to see criticisms on this training. It makes the claim of life changing results, and a high degree of efficacy yet I have not seen any empirical data to support any of these claims. I would like to see a section regarding this. I would also like to see a section on coveys business model which involves licensing it to large corporations, regardless of its unsubstantiated claims(lack of empirical data on performance improvements). The content has developed a religious following and relies on the same faith based logic.-DH — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.82.120.230 (talk) 18:57, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adamant refusal

Covey adamantly refuses to conflate principles and values ...

This is verging on puff language. In my own notes, I reworded this as "rigidly separates". In my private lexicon, this is at most sadly pejorative, because this brand of instrumental fixity almost invariably comes to a sad end, once systems theory presents the grand tally.

Here on Wikipedia, surely there's a suitably neutral phrase that splits the difference. — MaxEnt 19:57, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fascinating use of language. I have toned it down from "adamantly refuses to conflate" to "deliberately and mindfully separating" (with some other minor tweaks to make it flow better). Davidjcmorris Talk 01:42, 21 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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