Talk:COVID-19 pandemic in India

Proposed merge of 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Karnataka into 2020 coronavirus pandemic in India

Articles being discussed 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Karnataka and 2020 coronavirus pandemic in India

Not too many cases still in the state that requires a separate article. Can be covered in the India article. Titodutta (talk) 23:05, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

I don't see any issues having separate articles by states. Kerala already has one. Rather, Maharashtra also needs one has confirmed cases are 31 and counting. Shyam ^(T/C) 02:31, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

• Don't Merge : (At least until the epidemic in the state has shown significant signs of subsiding) Karnataka and Bangalore in particular are high risk zones (given the number of returning expats). There are many people who can benefit from a focused article. Helps to know the spread, latest state of responses and vigility to be observed. While the entire country is doing best to contain community level spread, let's ensure that in the right spirit of wiki (that is, disseminate critical information to right audience in timely manner), we continue to have focused articles where required. And by the way, Karnataka reported 8th case today and could well have double digit very soon. Don't also forget the first victim was from this state.

• Don't Merge : Cases can't be a criteria to decide , as they can increase in a few days as it is still a current disease. We can't have article for one state and not for other just because this disease have less cases their. So, i don't think it should be merged here.- Mayankj429 (talk) 04:54, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

• Mayankj429, yes, cases can't be a clear criteria. but it shows it has less content to present, which can be well-covered in a paragraph in the India article as of now. --Titodutta (talk) 11:46, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
• Titodutta, Mayankj429 We can get a lot of content as the first victim is from this state as someone said here. Not to highlight it but it is 4th in highest number of cases as per MoHFW. SaiP (talk) 13:38, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

• Don't merge Can keep even if it is short atm. Individual timeline can be established which is valuable, events specific to the state can be expanded on. Shanze1 (talk) 05:22, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
• Speedy merge And make sure we don't get more redundant WP:CFORKs anymore. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 07:43, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge Other States have more cases. Page didn't had much significance now. Brown Chocolate (talk) 08:12, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
• Don't merge this page is specific to karnataka state, Similarly in USA cases are tracked state wise also (Ex. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_United_States --> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Oregon) and also there is separate page for Kerala state also (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_Kerala) -Prasanna —Preceding undated comment added 08:20, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
• Don't merge this article about India wide pandemic is very long to read and there now is a separate article about it in certain Indian state. I rather support split the article about pandemic in Maharashtra into own article instead. 36.77.92.39 (talk) 10:04, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
• Don't Merge : in short I want to say keep both Articles separate, thanks(Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 10:11, 15 March 2020 (UTC))
• Notified WT:INB about this discussion. --Titodutta (talk) 11:50, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
• Speedy merge There does not appear to be enough statistical information for a new page in Karnataka state at this time. Krazytea(talk) 18:32, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
• Don't Merge : as per Shanze1's comment. Panda619 (talk) 20:43, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
• Don't merge : The article about India wide pandemic is very lengthy Now we can think that we can cover this info in main Indian article. But as time moves on, the data related to Karnataka will be removed citing Corona virus outbreak took place in many states and we cannot add timeline and pin to pin info on each state. So the data related to Karnataka will be lost. Kerala already has a related article. Even if anyone is interested in creating an article related to Maharashtra, they should go ahead. Number of cases should not be the criteria. Vijeth N Bharadwaj 05:55, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
• Don't Merge : More cases are being reported in India and the article about India would no longer be able to hold state-wise information. Separate articles for Indian states will help inclusion of information that are not relevant in the larger Indian context, such as of the governmental actions taken by the State governments. --Netha (talk) 08:34, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge Not necessary to have a separate coronavirus pandemic related article in a particular state. The references are unclear. Abishe (talk) 09:00, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

• Merge. It is unnecessary to have seperate articles by state. One article for India is sufficient. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an indiscriminate collection of information. --Engineering Guy (talk)

Merge it is a part of India's covid-19 outbreak. Don't Merge If you can make separate articles for all the states of India. AyanabhaBanerjee (talk) 11:41, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

• • @AyanabhaBanerjee: hi, we will not make separate Articles of all states.(Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 08:38, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

But that is inevitable if you are going to support existence of other content fork. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 11:56, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

But surprised to see that 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Kerala is not proposed for deletion. Why only for Karnataka Vijeth N Bharadwaj 07:02, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

• Don't Merge: We should need separate articles for each state as of now as India is in Level 2 in 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic. I want to understand why article has to be merged because we could detail the pandemic, how it got to Karnataka. SaiP (talk) 13:33, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

• Merge. Though I am guessing that AfD would be right place to decide the outcome because consensus is too inconclusive here. Otinflewer (talk) 15:46, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
• Merge: there isn't enough information specific to Karnataka to suggest the need for a separate article. The information that takes up the most space is all the numerical information and epidemiology stuff. And since Wikipedia is WP:NOTSTATS, this article shouldn't stand on its own.  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 04:32, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Don't Merge We need different Article THAKURAVI (talk) 12:53, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Community transmission testing

Testing for Community transmission started on March 15. A network of 65 laboratories of the Department of Health Research and the Indian Council of Medical Research (DHR-ICMR) will now test 20 samples each week — 10 of influenza-like illnesses and 10 of severe acute respiratory infection — for Covid-19.

Soruces:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/will-know-if-indias-going-through-community-transmission-icmr/articleshow/74663239.cms

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/icmr-to-test-for-community-transmission-of-covid-19-6313521/

shreyas112358 4:25, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thanks. Shanze1 (talk) 05:55, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Archive of talk page

Archive of this talk is done.(Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 06:13, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

Fix 17 March

@Mr.Mani Raj Paul: Noida is repeated multiple times, 'last night's' Karnataka case is not needed here (can move it to 16th if required), mention of the minister too is not needed in a timeline - just say "Karnataka reported 2 new cases" or something. Karnataka cases doesn't have a source. Fix these and please try to keep the timeline entries shorter. It is cluttering the page. Shanze1 (talk) 06:56, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

• @Shanze1: I agree, you can keep it shorter, thanks for discuss (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 07:02, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

New section for India's "lack of preparedness" or lack of facilities xyz

I know that there is already a little bit of criticism in other sections ex - "Although government claimed that the amount of tests were enough, experts thought they were not, saying that community transmission may go undetected without adequate testing." And I don't want to put an undue amount of negativity here, but if there are reliable media reports coming out of bad 'medical facilities etc, it needs to be summarised and a new section should be created. Please note I am not raising the hospitality issue, ONLY the medical and safety aspect.

• Doctors to hand wash: Why India isn't ready for coronavirus crisis (Business Standard)
• India Is the World's Second-Most Populous Country. Can It Handle the Coronavirus Outbreak? (TIME Magazine)
• ‘Only 3 washrooms for 40 people’: Spain-returned woman shares video of COVID-19 quarantine facility in Delhi (TimesNow)
• India not prepared for coronavirus (THE WEEK)
• Alarm Bells Are Ringing, Is Panicky India Prepared To Tackle Coronavirus Outbreak? (Outlook)

Now I don't intend for people to start adding all "crap" here blaming India up and down and everything from the Sun to the Moon. Everyone will have to help maintain the section. But I think a section is needed. If no one has any objections anyone can go ahead and create the section please. There is already a "Discrimination" section. I think what I am proposing here, as far as the virus is concerned, is ranked a little higher in terms of wp:importance than the "Discrimination" section, therefore justifying the inclusion/necessity of the section. DTM (talk) 12:06, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

A "situation" section is what we need, where this information and discrimination, both can be merged. I will be on it anytime soon. Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 12:12, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Removing of paragraph by user

Hello, I want to inform to all there is user @TheRichardPinto: who is removing paragraphs without discussing any issues. Here is some report:-

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We not want to create any vandalism. I simply request to all before removing any such long paragraph , please mention the issue on article talk page. Thanks(Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 13:20, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

They don't appear to be vandalism. The edits are removal of prediction, summarizing the timeline which is fine. They're constructive. If the removed citation is indispensable, we can have it. Else, it can be removed. Shanze1 (talk) 13:50, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Mr.Mani Raj Paul, on a quick glance through the edits seems ok. Don't see any orchestrated view pushing. Though I would have kept the line about "Kerala kept 25 Doctors under isolation" with some light copyedits. DTM (talk) 14:13, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Fix Closure of educational institutions and public places

• Shanze1, Mayankj429 Schools and public places have been closed in Telangana. Could you fix it in the map and write about it? . SaiP (talk) 13:54, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thanks. Shanze1 (talk) 14:08, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

References

Thanks Shanze1. Please don't mind me asking as I am not yet a extended confirmed user, so have to ask any one of you guys. SaiP (talk) 14:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

That's okay. Your help here is equally valuable as editing the article. Thanks Shanze1 (talk) 14:20, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

@SaiP: - Thanks for the help throughout, since page is protected you can always ask to make edits with reliable sources. - Mayankj429 (talk) 14:24, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Territories in Infobox

As day by day cases are increasing, no. of states and UTs affected with COVID-19 are increasing. We can just write no. of territories as like - 'X' States, 'Y' UTs same as the 2019-20 coronavirus pandemic do in infobox instead of naming everyone of them . As, Statistics section shows names of all states and UTs affected with all data. - Mayankj429 (talk) 15:46, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

@Mayankj429: Hello, I agree with your views. Just we can display the territories like (Create Sub Section). this thing may very easy to find by visiter:-

(By Create Sub Section of Each States)

Delhi

Punjab

Maharashtra ....etc

To avoid long paragraph of such dates... (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 15:58, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 March 2020

In Rumours and misinformation section, following line can be added:

In a bizarre statement, parliamentarian Ramesh Bidhuri of Bharatiya Janata Party claimed that as per experts using Namaste as a greeting prevents contamination from the Covid-19, but using Arabic greetings like Adab or As-salamu alaykum does not as it directs the air into the mouth.

References

Copied this line from Misinformation related to the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic page. Jasksingh (talk) 16:56, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thanks to @Jasksingh:, (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 17:31, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

Content to be added in Preventive Measures

1. Add Social distancing as a second point after SAARC conference, which is recently advised by Government of India. SaiP (talk) 21:16, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

References

 Done Thanks to @SaiP:, (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 02:06, 18 March 2020 (UTC))

Thanks Mr.Mani Raj Paul SaiP (talk) 07:07, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 March 2020

Since this number of cases per day is more helpful to analyse pandemic status, it would be better to create a table in which cases in each Indian State vs for Individual date will be better. Many countries has similar table: Iran, Germany, Italy. This kind of table is very useful to understand how infection is spreading, in which region and at which rate. Over time, it will be useful to see state wise breakdown of cases over time, as each state is brings different rules and guidelines. It could start from today, and then it could be updated with new date entry from tomorrow onwards. Can we use table template from here Coronavirus pandemic in Iran. XGammaRay (talk) 20:23, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Cases in Telangana rising

Mr.Mani Raj Paul, Mayankj429, Shanze1 : Please keep this section as-is. I will be tracking cases and adding it here. You guys can change. SaiP (talk) 08:02, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

1. Active cases raised to 5 as of now totaling to 6 which includes 1 recovery. SaiP (talk) 08:02, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

References

 Done:@SaiP: Thanks - Mayankj429 (talk) 08:30, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@Mayankj429: Mayank, I don't see the edit. The table still shows active cases as 4. I do not see any writing either. Have I overlooked? Could you show it here? SaiP (talk) 08:43, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@Mayankj429: Mayank, my bad, I see the writing. I think it is just the table which has to be updated. SaiP (talk) 08:46, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@SaiP: - It is updated in the Timeline section. Table in Statistics section is updated when Mohfw.gov.in updates there data otherwise we have to cite each case we update in table through other sources which is difficult. Don't worry as soon as mohfw updates it will be updated there too. - Mayankj429 (talk) 08:47, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@Mayankj429: Okay

@SaiP: - And by the way table in stats section is a template which is not protected so you can also edit it with source cited.Thanks - Mayankj429 (talk) 08:54, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Mayankj429 SaiP (talk) 10:23, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Community transmission testing update

As of march 18, there was no evidence of community tranmission (results of 500 random samples tested for community transmission were negative).

Soruces:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/india-still-in-phase-2-of-coronavirus-outbreak-confirms-icmr/articleshow/74673951.cms

shreyas112358 8:17, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thanks - Mayankj429 (talk) 08:43, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Adding another See-Also article to Impact-->Economy

Mr.Mani Raj Paul, Mayankj429, Shanze1

1. I think it is informative to add another See-Also article to section Economy under Impact --> 2020 stock market crash. There is a separate article on the ongoing stock market crash as it is considered a significant event. SaiP (talk) 08:35, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done Thanks to @SaiP: (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 09:06, 18 March 2020 (UTC))

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 March 2020

The no of cases confirmed by the Ministry of health and family welfare has been increased to 151. Please change it as soon as possible. Prabhnoor151205 (talk) 12:29, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done Shanze1 (talk) 12:56, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

The graph table count still shows 140. Newbie.I don't want to risk editing myself.....yet — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.94.221 (talk) 14:33, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

 Already done : Already updated. - Mayankj429 (talk) 16:08, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 March 2020

CHANGE

"West Bengal reported its first case in a person who had returned from England."

TO

"West Bengal reported its first case when the son of Sonali Chakravarti Banerjee returned from England and ignored official advice to be admitted to the hospital." 103.77.137.137 (talk) 16:25, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

References

 Not done: Failed verification and violates the BLP Policy. The first sentence of the linked article makes it clear that Alapan Bandyopadhyay and Sonali Chakravarti Banerjee are not the parents of the patient. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:46, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 March 2020

The World Health Organisation (WHO) on Tuesday hailed the efforts taken by Narendra Modi-led government in combatting the novel coronavirus pandemic which began in the Chinese city of Wuhan, killing more than 7,177 people worldwide so far.

Speaking to reporters after holding a meeting with the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR), Henk Bekedam, the WHO Representative to India, said that the commitment of the Indian government has been very impressive. He also appreciated the Indian Council of Medical Research (IMCR) for managing to isolate the strains of Sars-Cov-2.

"I think the commitment of the Indian government from the top level -- the Prime Minister's office himself -- has been enormous, very impressive. This is one of the reasons why India is doing very well. I am very impressed that everyone has been mobilised," Bekedam said.

"We have very good research capacity in India and especially at the ICMR and the Department of Health Research. They have been able to isolate the virus, (and) now India will continue to be part of the research community," he added.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-india-far-seems-staved-152540644.html

https://covidout.in/

https://twitter.com/ANI/status/1239779904134066177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1239790566256160768&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.freepressjournal.in%2Findia%2Fvery-impressed-with-indian-govt-and-pmo-whos-henk-bekedam-hails-modi-govts-fight-against-coronavirus

https://www.freepressjournal.in/india/very-impressed-with-indian-govt-and-pmo-whos-henk-bekedam-hails-modi-govts-fight-against-coronavirus 71.66.4.26 (talk) 19:21, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:47, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Sec 144 Imposed in Rajasthan

Chief Minister of Rajasthan imposed section 144 in the state till 31 March 2020 to combat with cornoavirus Jainvaibhav1307 (talk) 23:02, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

@Mayankj429: @Shanze1:@Jainvaibhav1307: We should add different section of section 144 in Response header ,Not only Rajasthan even Mumbai,Nashik & some other states already issued (Mr.Mani Raj Paul (talk) 01:50, 19 March 2020 (UTC))

@User:Mr.Mani Raj Paul; Thanks for your suggestions; Maharashtra has seperate oage for COVID on which it is already mentioned. Rajasthan still doesnot have sepearate page Jainvaibhav1307 (talk) 01:55, 19 March 2020 (UTC)