Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 March 24

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March 24

Template:Cite doi family

Template:Cite doi family (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused and now useless. Historically used in the documentation of defunct templates. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:09, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. —Мандичка^YO 😜 14:04, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 16:26, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox tram network

Template:Infobox tram network (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox rail network (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox tram network with Template:Infobox rail network.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 22:45, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Both templates seem appropriately scoped as designed, not seeing a strong rationale for merging. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:01, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge – My own rationale for merging the two is because tram network is a type of rail network. --Soumyabrata ^{wash your hands} _{to protect from coronavirus} 09:00, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Tram networks and mainline railway networks have very different characteristics, as reflected by the very different parameter set. Force-fitting them together helps nothing. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 16:45, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Not all rail networks are mainline rail networks. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:14, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. There are many hyrbid light rail systems to which either of these could apply, and a number of parameters in each template that could sensibly be added to the other. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:14, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox monster truck

Template:Infobox monster truck (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox automobile (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox monster truck with Template:Infobox automobile.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 22:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Both templates seem appropriately scoped as designed, not seeing a strong rationale for merging. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:02, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge – My own rationale for merging the two is because monster truck is a type of automobile. --Soumyabrata ^{wash your hands} _{to protect from coronavirus} 09:01, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Monster trucks are a specialized piece of Motorsports equipment, not a general commercially available automobile. Plus monster truck articles are really about the racing team that operates them. Most monster truck teams have multiple trucks across their life, and in the case of more popular teams multiple trucks at once. It's incorrect to treat them as merely a motor vehicle. oknazevad (talk) 20:07, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. These infoboxes should be kept separate. "automobile" refers to series production vehicles which are street-legal. Monster truck may have some ties to production vehicles but are essentially custom made individual vehicles for a single purpose. -- Ralf König (talk) 16:49, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom - the documentation for the automobile template clearly and prominently says (emboldening added) "This template is used in articles about motor vehicles including, but not necessarily limited to, cars, buses and trucks.". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:17, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Referring to production vehicles. If there's an actual appropriate merge target it's {{infobox racing car}}, but that's still a poor fit. oknazevad (talk) 20:35, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox motorcycle club

Template:Infobox motorcycle club (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox organization (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox motorcycle club with Template:Infobox organization.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 22:34, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge – My own rationale for merging the two is because motorcycle club is a type of organization. --Soumyabrata ^{wash your hands} _{to protect from coronavirus} 09:03, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:18, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox treaty

Template:Infobox treaty (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox document (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox treaty with Template:Infobox document.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 22:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Both templates seem appropriately scoped as designed, not seeing a strong rationale for merging. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:03, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Nikkimaria. --Soumyabrata ^{wash your hands} _{to protect from coronavirus} 09:04, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per others. Absurd nomination. A treaty is not the actual piece of paper it's written on. —Мандичка^YO 😜 14:06, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Do not merge' - incompatble. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:21, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Not the same thing.--Auric talk 20:31, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:New South Wales Police Force

Template:New South Wales Police Force (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox law enforcement agency (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:New South Wales Police Force with Template:Infobox law enforcement agency.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 22:23, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support merging {{New South Wales Police Force}} into {{Infobox law enforcement agency}}. Reh man 04:11, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge or Delete {{New South Wales Police Force}} as that template has {{Infobox law enforcement agency}} on it (template on template). Ckfasdf (talk) 17:06, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Subst and delete the NSW template - it is a single-use wrapper of the other. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:20, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox U.S. national banks

Template:Infobox U.S. national banks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox company (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox U.S. national banks with Template:Infobox company.
WP:INFOCOL. Since Template:Infobox bank redirects to Template:Infobox company. PPEMES (talk) 22:16, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge – My own rationale for merging the two is because US national bank is a type of bank. --Soumyabrata ^{wash your hands} _{to protect from coronavirus} 09:04, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge — doesn't appear to merit a necessary unique template. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^talk 18:21, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. While national and state banks are incorporated under different laws than regular corporation, this could covered via the type field. Also, there are financial company fields in co. Inbox. Spshu (talk) 22:23, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge—As Spshu said banks are companies. Additionally, I say we include "Template:Infobox bank" in the merger and add a character numbers for banks. Michealin (talk) 21:29, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Some banks may be companies, but companies are not all banks.--Auric talk 20:33, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - There are major parameters here that would be lost if merged. Charter numbers and dates are included in banking history and are unique to each bank (very useful when looking up references). I also agree that not all companies are banks as per ones owned by governments. I want to point out that Template:Infobox bank was never used as an Infobox, it was always a redirect created by Pigsonthewing [1]. If anything "Template:Infobox U.S. national banks" should be merged and redirected to "Template:Infobox bank". - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:41, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox sporting event organization

Template:Infobox sporting event organization (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox event (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox sporting event organization with Template:Infobox event.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 22:09, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose-There is a distinction. I happen to be on the Executive Board of an organization that organizes major sporting events. Each event we promote is a separate event with its own organizing committee and history. They are separate. Trackinfo (talk) 22:28, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Template:Infobox recurring event rather than Template:Infobox event. Most of this template's parameters already have a direct equivalent in {{Infobox recurring event}}. @Trackinfo: I recommend you take a look at WP:INFOCOL to understand why this template is considered unnecessary. –IagoQnsi (talk) 04:37, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't mind that as an alternative. PPEMES (talk) 11:00, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would not have an objection for "Recurring event" for the events. The issue I brought up is the organization behind an event could be much larger. The Pasadena Tournament of Roses Association might be responsible for a multifaceted event that builds up to one day a year, including a parade and a football game. The NCAA or even the College Football Playoff Committee govern the game, in fact multiple games. They are organizations that are responsible for multiple recurring events. Trackinfo (talk) 00:29, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose. The 1975 Australian constitutional crisis was an event. The Brussels Airport diamond heist was an event. The Goodwill Games was not an event but an organization of repeating sporting competitions, and the sporting aspect is unique to the infobox. —Мандичка^YO 😜 13:17, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikimandia: Which variable in {{Infobox sporting event organization}} is unique to Goodwill Games that can absolutely not be retrieved from {{Infobox event}} or {{Infobox recurring event}}? PPEMES (talk) 13:29, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

'Merge either with original proposed or Template:Infobox recurring event. Should make sure that event templates can be used as a module with organization template. Spshu (talk) 13:30, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox property development

Template:Infobox property development (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox building (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox property development with Template:Infobox building.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 21:53, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep. A property development is not a building. It could be a golf course or even an entire TOWN. All you had to do was look at the actual transclusions and see most of these do not apply to buildings. See The Waterfront Barrow-in-Furness, Eastwood City, Newport City, Metro Manila etc. —Мандичка^YO 😜 13:06, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, lots of "buildings" are actually rather building complexes but still qualify for Template:Infobox building. In case someone actually owned a town, I guess Template:Infobox settlement would be more appropriate, though? PPEMES (talk)

Merge, there is no need for such specification; no special parameters. Wikisaurus (talk) 15:50, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox shopping mall

Template:Infobox shopping mall (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox building (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox shopping mall with Template:Infobox building.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 21:47, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The former is appropriately scoped and the latter is already huge. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:05, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Nikkimaria. --Soumyabrata ^{wash your hands} _{to protect from coronavirus} 09:05, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. A shopping mall is not usually a single building. —Мандичка^YO 😜 13:01, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox KFC

Template:Infobox KFC (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox company (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox KFC with Template:Infobox company.
Is it really meaningful to create a "template of a template" like that? PPEMES (talk) 21:42, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Of the seven articles listed on the template doc page, this template is only really seeing meaningful use on two of them: KFC and KFC in China. It's been removed from KFC in Japan and KFC Original Recipe already, and it seems rather out of place and unnecessary on History of KFC, KFC advertising, and List of countries with KFC franchises. Overall, it seems like more hassle than help. –IagoQnsi (talk) 04:47, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. As with the McDonald's and Burger King ones below, any tram Luis one outside of the main article are incorrect and inappropriate use of an infobox, which is supposed to summarize key date from the article in which it appears. That is solely the main article. All other trans luscious should be removed as incorrect uses, and the main article substituted and deleted. oknazevad (talk) 20:11, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- As with the others I have removed the incorrect uses of this template. oknazevad (talk) 20:14, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Seconded. Same goes with Template:Infobox McDonald's and Template:Infobox Burger King. --Diriector_Doc┝^{Talk
  Contribs}━━━┥ 21:02, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Subst to main page, remove any other usage and delete template. As has been pointed above, this is an incorrect use of an infobox. This should only appear on the main article of the company and not on any other page. --Gonnym (talk) 16:16, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox McDonald's

Template:Infobox McDonald's (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox company (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox McDonald's with Template:Infobox company.
Is it really meaningful to create a "template of a template" like that? PPEMES (talk) 21:42, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Incorrect use of a infobox. Only belongs on the main article. Other instances removed. Copy the relevant parts to the actual McDonald's article and delete even the redirect as unneeded. oknazevad (talk) 17:24, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Seconded. Same goes with Template:Infobox KFC and Template:Infobox Burger King. --Diriector_Doc┝^{Talk
  Contribs}━━━┥ 21:02, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Subst to main page, remove any other usage and delete template. As has been pointed above, this is an incorrect use of an infobox. This should only appear on the main article of the company and not on any other page. --Gonnym (talk) 16:15, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Burger King

Template:Infobox Burger King (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox company (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox Burger King with Template:Infobox company.
Is it really meaningful to create a "template of a template" like that? PPEMES (talk) 21:42, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Miscreated WP:FORK. There should just one use of the regular company template in the article on Burger King. Not included in every sub-article on the subject. That is plainly an incorrect use of infoboxes. It shouldn't even be merged, actually, as there is not reason for this to be on any page except the main company article, and so zero reason for the redirect to exist. oknazevad (talk) 17:18, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: I have removed the incorrect uses of this template. It should only be on the main article now. oknazevad (talk) 20:04, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Seconded. Same goes with Template:Infobox KFC and Template:Infobox McDonald's. --Diriector_Doc┝^{Talk
  Contribs}━━━┥ 21:02, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Subst to main page, remove any other usage and delete template. As has been pointed above, this is an incorrect use of an infobox. This should only appear on the main article of the company and not on any other page. --Gonnym (talk) 16:14, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox record label

Template:Infobox record label (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox brand (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox record label with Template:Infobox brand.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 21:32, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Both templates seem appropriately scoped as designed, not seeing a strong rationale for merging. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:06, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: small infoboxes that carry out their separate functions well enough. And how is the parameter for genre going to work inside the brand infobox anyway? Fwiw, the first infobox has not been tfm-tagged. – Uanfala (talk) 23:36, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I tagged this, and about a dozen other template-protected templates PPEMES nominated today, a few minutes ago. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:58, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Per the two posts above. Hansen Sebastian^Talk 00:35, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No merge. Record labels have more in common with book or video game publishers than a generic brand for retail products. oknazevad (talk) 17:09, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. Strictly speaking record labels (and other publishing imprints) are just brands, while some time do correspond to a division, company or subsidiary (thus use loosely as a synonym). The only needed fields to move over are distributor and genre. Spshu (talk) 14:05, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox tea

Template:Infobox tea (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox drink (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox tea with Template:Infobox drink.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 21:25, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Both templates seem appropriately scoped as designed, not seeing a strong rationale for merging. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:06, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge – My own rationale for merging the two is because tea is a type of drink. --Soumyabrata ^{wash your hands} _{to protect from coronavirus} 09:06, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. The tea infobox contains hardly any parameters not found in the drink infobox. Temperature is one, but it can be added because it's also relevant to other beverages. For example, coffee should be drunk hot, fruit juice at room temperature, and vodka ice cold. JIP | Talk 13:47, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Virtually all the parameters are duplicated, just with different names. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:27, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Tea is a drink, but not all drinks are tea.--Auric talk 20:43, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox theological work

Template:Infobox theological work (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox theologian (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox theological work with Template:Infobox theologian.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 21:17, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Which are you proposing would be the target? Nikkimaria (talk) 23:07, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox theologian. PPEMES (talk) 23:10, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Don't see the logic of this. It's like mergeing Infobox novel with Infobox author. All the best: Rich Farmbrough (the apparently calm and reasonable) 23:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC).[reply]

A theologian infobox needs the date of birth, family members etc. and the theological work infobox is completely different. A person has very different attributes to a document. --Mullafacation (talk) 15:26, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Rich says it best. Ones the person, ones the work. oknazevad (talk) 20:28, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Do not merge' - incompatible. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:29, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox medical details

Template:Infobox medical details (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox medical person (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox medical details with Template:Infobox medical person.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 21:11, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Which are you proposing would be the target? Nikkimaria (talk) 23:08, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Given that {{Infobox medical person}} actually transcludes {{Infobox medical details}}, it seems that these are essentially identical templates; the only difference is that the 'details' template can't be used as a standalone template (but they both can be used as a child template).

As for which template to merge into, I think that the 'details' template is where the real meat of the template is (and thus, where the more valuable page history is), but the 'person' template has the more logical name. So I think we should delete Template:Infobox medical person, then rename Template:Infobox medical details to "Infobox medical person". –IagoQnsi (talk) 04:59, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That was how it was before. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Infoboxes/embed. These nominations are ill-advised and should be closed. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 17:37, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox engineering career

Template:Infobox engineering career (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox engineer (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox engineering career with Template:Infobox engineer.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 21:01, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand the expected outcome. This is a wrapper template which adds extra fields to {{infobox person}}. It was split precisely due to INFOCOL concerns. What do you want to happen here? If you don't understand this setup then I'd strongly advise a moratorium on similar TfDs. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 21:15, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merge – My own rationale for merging the two is because engineer is a type of engineering career. --Soumyabrata ^{wash your hands} _{to protect from coronavirus} 09:07, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:WikiProject Infoboxes/embed. This distinction is deliberate. This should be closed. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 17:38, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose although clearly the documentation on how this works could use improvement, and an example of how to use it. At present the documentation gives no examples and the header it shows strongly suggests (wrongly) that it should be used by embedding {{infobox person}} with a nested call {{Infobox engineering career}}, when the whole point of {{Infobox engineer}} is to avoid having to do that in an article. Andy Dingley (talk) 14:04, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox YouTube personality

Template:Infobox YouTube personality (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox presenter (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox YouTube personality with Template:Infobox presenter.
Would this be considerable per WP:INFOCOL? And also trying to keep things as commercially neutral as possible? PPEMES (talk) 20:57, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support-These internet celebrities are a major, growing and ongoing phenomenon. The template certainly needs to be kept up to date. Many of them work cross platform so we should have a means to provide directions to their various channels. So in this case a youtube celebrity would be primary but they might also have an instagram, twitch, Facebook etc etc. I also see the great possibility of these being poached with our open editing policy. I will suggest that some editing protection be applied if these get changed and send a notification to someone of a developing problem. Trackinfo (talk) 22:21, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support BUT only changed to Oppose; if the parameters specific to YouTube are kept (channel and link to the channel, channel views, subscribers, date of stats update, genre, awards). Same goes for the Twitch infobox parameters being kept (channel + link, games played, followers, total views, genre). These are vital to the infoboxes for these individuals, in the same way that an NFL player's teams, awards, and stats are vital to be included in those infoboxes. Soulbust (talk) 22:49, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. While I agree with Trackinfo and Soulbust, shouldn't the YouTube and Twitch infoboxes instead be merged into a new Template:Infobox internet personality since they are not "presenters" and share no custom parameters with Template:Infobox presenter? - Brojam (talk) 00:17, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree with Brojam, a new, more specific for internet personality sounds much better. Don't worry about its usage, there will be plenty for this specification, without branding. Trackinfo (talk) 00:04, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Agree completely with Brojam. Twitch and YouTube infoboxes have a lot of shared/similar parameters as they are very similar professions so it would be fairly reasonable to merge those two. Also, although YouTubers can generally be considered as presenters, a lot of actual television presenters don't primarily use social media for broadcasts and therefore this merge would result in unnecessary confusion. heyitsben!! ^talk 08:20, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per others. --Soumyabrata ^{wash your hands} _{to protect from coronavirus} 09:08, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per common sense. A YouTube personality is not necessarily a presenter. Merging into a new one, infobox internet personality, makes ACTUAL sense. —Мандичка^YO 😜 14:03, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I would welcome a discussion on such a solution as well. PPEMES (talk) 14:12, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support merge into a new infobox for internet personalities, oppose merging to infobox presenter. b uidhe 21:29, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per others. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 02:13, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, I agree with the comments above. Merging the Twitch + YouTube infoboxes would be great (with the growth of TikTok, it would be smart to include an option for that too). Would still like an option to have the infobox appear as purple/white for those primarily Twitch personalities and red/white for those primarily YouTube personalities. Soulbust (talk) 02:43, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, agree, it would make much more sense to merge Twitch and Youtube rather than all three together. QueerFilmNerd^talk 20:55, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Twitch streamer

Template:Infobox Twitch streamer (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox presenter (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox Twitch streamer with Template:Infobox presenter.
Would this be considerable per WP:INFOCOL? And also trying to keep things as commercially neutral as possible? PPEMES (talk) 20:57, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per points made at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 March 24#Template:Infobox YouTube personality. - Brojam (talk) 23:15, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Lists of wars by date

Template:Lists of wars by date (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:War navbox (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Lists of wars by date with Template:War navbox.
WP:INFOCOL. PPEMES (talk) 20:31, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. List of wars by date is for LISTS of wars. It connects a specific series of ARTICLES. The war navbox is for the war CATEGORIES. —Мандичка^YO 😜 14:00, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I would consider withdrawing this nomination as the two are clearly different and having a tag on the pages this links to is distracting. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:33, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]