Talk:Cognitive distortion

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emphasis on cognitive distortion and depression is wrong.

Cognitive distortion is the psychological basis for spin, distortions can be positive or negative and are associated with people with personality disorders. It is not just to do with anxiety and depression. In narcissistic defences, cognitive distortion is identified as a narcissistic defence.--Penbat (talk) 18:15, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bias of Optimism.

As an article dealing with fallacy and distortions in judgment, I disagree with the prevalent presupposition of "negative=wrong/positive=correct" in the descriptions.

i.e. The "Fortune Telling" section outlines fortune telling as the prediction of negative future events, and gives for an example a student foreseeing failure even though the student has prepared well.

The student's worldview distorts in the same way having not prepared at all yet foreseeing success. I insist we keep in mind that while logically sound thought doesn't support irrational negativity, it also doesn't support mania.

P.s. The article reads well, and I believe whomever wrote this did a wonderful job. I do not aim to undermine the article, only to point out that irrational positivity is just as delusional as irrational negativity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 20.132.64.141 (talk) 11:49, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fallacy of Change and Always Being Right

The last two sections, "Fallacy of Change" and "Always Being Right" may have validity in another context, but the descriptions betray the classification.

"Fallacy of Change-Relying on social control to obtain cooperative actions from another person." Distorted judgment of many types may lead someone to rely on social control to obtain cooperation from others, but relying on social control does not prove distorted judgment. I.e. "Most X's rely on Z" does not imply "If it relies on Z it must be X"

"Always being right - Prioritizing self-interest over the feelings of another person." While a distorted worldview could cause one to prioritize self-interest over the feelings of another, so could sound logic; thus it cannot be classified as a distortion or fallacy in the current context. I.e. Distortion: Regardless of X's feelings, Z reasons that it is correct because X is inferior. This is much like a mother's "because I'm your mother and I said so" fallacy, which assumes that the child cannot be right due to it's inherent inferiority to it's mother.

Sound-Logic: X disagrees strongly with Z's choice, but Z goes forward with the choice anyway because the benefit of the decision outweighs the benefit of X's agreement. X may wish to stay with Z, but Z may break up with X after carefully considering the situation and finding it more beneficial to do so. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 20.132.64.141 (talk) 12:40, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]