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libelous content

Saying there is a petition against Tedros is libel. REMOVE content! Tedros predicted a possible pandemic in 2018 so was VERY prepared!... read this speech he gave and correct article otherwise I'll correct it when I finish work tonight https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/2018/pandemic-free-world/en/ Veryscarymary (talk) 13:56, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Before you attempt to "correct" anything, please consider familiarizing yourself with the elements of libel. Or at least the definition of the word. Also, please familiarize yourself with Wikipedia editing rules. You won't be "correcting" anything on this page without consensus. 2601:18F:4101:4830:D142:D6F7:5353:6DB6 (talk) 03:12, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Goodwill ambassador

Should there not be a remark that Adhanom Ghebreyesus proposed just of all Robert Mugabe as a goodwill ambassador for the WHO ?! WTH did he think?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.159.9.27 (talk) 20:52, 15 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read the article? Because that was added on 21 October 2017. Neil S. Walker (talk) 23:49, 15 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

An editor has removed the section about Robert Mugabe, with an edit summary: "The coverage of Mugabe's nomination as good will is unnecessary as the decision was reversed within 24 hours." It was actually 4 days, during which time the appointment attracted global condemnation and news coverage, as well as criticism from multiple government bodies. Clearly a significant issue which should remain. Neil S. Walker (talk) 10:17, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Handling of Coronavirus

What on earth is going on here? This article is starting to look like a political hit piece. The accusation that "Tedros overlooked the Chinese government's attempts to suppress information" is backed up by a citation to an article that doesn't mention the WHO or Tedros at all. Incendiary statements like this surely must qualified, and if stated as bare fact must be backed up by some very good citations. --Tomthepom (talk) 04:10, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can we have some information detailing how he's handling the Coronavirus outbreak? It's become a pandemic now -- as a layman, I don't know if he had any power to stymie its growth, (I do note that there is some controversy about coverups of outbreaks in Ethiopia while he was in charge there..). Is there relevant, qualified commentary that talks about this? 185.125.226.42 (talk) 10:31, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect citation in this sentence "He faced significant criticism for what is seen as inadequate handling of the pandemic, including the late declaration of a public health emergency.". The Hill article cited is talks about criticism for a delayed declaration of a "pandemic". There is no such criticism of a delayed declaration of a "public health emergency". Moreover, the link is an opinion piece. I recommend the whole sentence is removed. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.52.122.98 (talk • contribs)

The authors of the opinion piece in The Hill are given, and they are recognized specialists. Since the opinion is not expressed in Wikipedia voice, it meets our requirements of WP:NPOV. I can name the specialists if you would like, but in the body, not the lead. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 07:37, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Why is it mentioned that Tedros was criticized by "World leaders" but not that the EU came to his defense? He is used as a scapegoat to make people think about something else than that several governments, including those of the US and the UK whose citizens likely form the majority of editors at wikipedia in English, ignored WHO advice to take COVID seriously for weeks. The Guardian has an insightful article about the role of the WHO during the crisis. [1] Supsudelu (talk) 16:06, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Worrying Political Attack

There is a very worrying tone throughout this article which reads like a political attack on the individual. I want to raise alarm that this content, which is inappropriate, misleading and one-sided, is doing a disservice to Wikipedia's reputation as a source of neutral content. SomewhereInLondon (talk) 14:00, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia documents what the reliable sources say about the topic. There is nothing called "one-sided" in Wikipedia policies. If there are other "sides" please present them. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:06, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there are one-sided rules please see WP:NPOV, and WP:BLP. I've rewritten it. I dropped the NY Times referenced that doesn't even mention the WHO or Adhanom, and added the second side of things from the same BBC article that was already linked and was much more balanced than our coverage of it. - SimonP (talk) 15:28, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You mean you have actually read the BBC article, but missed the remark:

Such comments [of "effusive praise"] sit uneasily with the knowledge that China arrested health workers who first raised the alarm about the outbreak.[1]

I am afraid you can't drop the NY Times article, which documents China's suppression of information, which Tedros overlooked. And, what did you make of the Wall Street Journal article, which says among others:

"The WHO's message that no, don't anybody panic, keep travel flowing, keep the borders open, and then saying that we support the Chinese government is a mixed message," said Kelley Lee, a professor at Canada's Simon Fraser University who wrote a book on the WHO and co-established the WHO Collaborating Centre on Global Change and Health.[2]

And, your addition of the NPR source is pointless, because it doesn't establish that the WHO "long [called] on countries to take greater action". It only gives Tedros's claim that he had been calling for action. There is no information about what he had been caling for. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:52, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Imogen Foulkes, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus: The Ethiopian at the heart of the coronavirus fight, BBC News, 4 March 2020.
  2. ^ Jeremy Page, Betsy McKay, The World Health Organization Draws Flak for Coronavirus Response, The Wall Street Journal, 12 February 2020.
Again I think your BBC article is well balanced. It notes that "there are virologists and epidemiologists, some of whom say the WHO's advice to member states to adopt "robust, aggressive" containment measures is too feeble, and others who say the WHO is over-reacting." For the politics it acknowledges that the decision not to criticize member states of the WHO might create as many problems as it solves. For the NY Times piece, the core issue is that while there is much speculation, there isn't yet any proof that China misrepresented what was happening. Early in the epidemic, at the same time the WHO was praising China, so were most western scientists. For example [2] - SimonP (talk) 21:56, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Tedros was widely criticized by the public". What public? You mean only people in the racist West are people, while people in the rest of the world are brainwashed automatons don't count? 2601:644:8100:7930:709E:E3AE:9CB:F446 (talk) 17:53, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's unsurprising that most criticism currently comes from first world countries many of which tend to be majority white, as these countries have far more international travel leading to a more rapid outbreak. The opinion of the public in African countries will change once they experience vast numbers of deaths in the coming weeks.

″Meanwhile, Dr Tedros has warned that the virus is now spreading rapidly in other countries. He highlighted Africa, where he said the virus had reached rural areas. "We are now seeing clusters of cases and community spread in more than 16 countries" on the continent, he said. "We anticipate severe hardship for already overstretched health systems, particularly in rural areas, which normally lack the resources of those in cities."″ [1] 2A02:C7D:7662:BC00:3437:7B65:4B65:D4D (talk) 23:02, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tags

Please advise if the tags can come off this entry after recent edits? At least the one at the top. S T C Jones (talk) 22:41, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, I went ahead and took the tags off as no one responded or objected. I think that the contributions to the page have made the tags unnecessary now, hopefully. Hope that's the consensus. Thanks so much. S T C Jones (talk) 06:22, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Taiwanese

change ((Taiwanese)) to ((Taiwan))ese 2601:541:4500:1760:355E:D1B0:B8B8:D14D (talk) 13:48, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This fix is already done. RudolfRed (talk) 23:53, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 April 2020

The link to Soumya Swaminathan in the table listing the WHO office deputies should actually be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soumya_Swaminathan_(scientist) and not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soumya_Swaminathan 86.96.28.47 (talk) 14:32, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. RudolfRed (talk) 23:52, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-52248516
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