Talk:Adolf Schiffer

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Birth place?

Hungarian Wikipedia has Adolf Schiffer born in Apatin, today's Serbia. as son of Samuel Schiffer and Theresa Fischer. He allegedly went straight to the Budapest Music academy to study with Popper. No mention of Prague. David Popper, his teacher, who was from Prague, got a teaching position in Budapest. The Hungarian site has a source I do not find on the English site: A Hungarian Jewish lexicon from 1929, where Schiffer is mentioned with otherwise correct information as to his teacher and birth years: Magyar zsidó lexikon. Szerk. Ujvári Péter. Budapest: Magyar Zsidó Lexikon. 1929. Schiffer. o. Could Schiffer's alleged Praguean descent have been confused with Popper's?

Yes, even the Czech's treat them as Apatin-born, corrected.(KIENGIR (talk) 06:24, 7 June 2020 (UTC))[reply]

- Shouldn't we investigate the notion that he was Czech? It doesn't make sense. The Jewish Hungarian lexicon, whose information about Schiffer's parents is confirmed in official state documents of 1920 and 1950, has him move from his home town in South Hungary, now Serbia, to Budapest, to study with Popper, and becoming a teacher there himself in 1900. When should he have gone to Prague? He married in Budapest in 1920, died in 1950, with addresses clearly given. His younger brother was born in 1885 in Osijek, and returned there since WW1, according to the same lexicon. Osijek is now in Croatia, but in the same region as Apatin. Since I found nothing that links Schiffer to Prague except an alleged mention by Ognjen Kraus (1998, p. 244), which entry I could not check, but which seems to be about Jewish life in Croatia and Zagreb (which is the region where Osijek and Apatin are), I strongly suspect that some author mistakenly attributed the Czech descent of the teacher (Popper) to the student (Schiffer).