Talk:Al-Malikiyah

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Aramaen-Syriac?

Once again, is there any sources which talks about the large Aramaen/Syriac population of Al-Malikiyah? If not then change it

Majority of Syriacs in Syria call themselves Assyrian, this is seen with the assyrian political parties, festivals etc. Just look at the Assyrian New Years festivals and witness how many assyrian flag are there and how many people attend!!

please without a source i want it to be changed from Syriac to Assyrian (which is an actual ethnicity - not a religious denomination) —Preceding -- Malik Danno (talk) 20:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Issue is aready discussed. Most common name should be used. Syriacs or Aramean-Syriacs should be used in Syria and Turkey, and Assyrians or Chaldean Assyrians should be used in Iraq and Iran. And no, majority of the Syriacs call them selves for Syriacs. THose you are talking about is eastern Syriacs (Assyrians) and are a minority. AramaeanSyriac (talk) 21:55, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So called rojava

Adding the so-called rojava template and categories in towns and villages under military occupation by YPG militias militia does not change that official status. This is an on-going military conflict and any interim control (YPG, ISIS, FSA) does not mean a change in the political status of the village/town. I am moving to remove these categories (rojava, cantons, IS, etc). Comments are welcome. Thanks. Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 01:04, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rojava denotes a de facto existing distinct framework of civil governance in distinct parts of Northern Syria, there are 5 Million Google hits for it including all major English language media, and this is what the entire Rojava article on the Wikipedia is about. You may personally dislike anything about this sentence, or the well-sourced elaboration of facts in the Rojava article and in other articles, but your dislike is no valid reason to delete related material from the Wikipedia. -- 2A1ZA (talk) 21:10, 11 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed move

I propose moving this article to Derîk. This is the Kurdish name of this Kurdish-majority town, and as Kurdish has equal standing with Arabic in the AANES, it doesn't make sense to use the Arabic name for a settlement where Arabs are a minority. This is the policy we follow for the article on Kobanî, where the official name under the regime was the Arabic Ayn al-Arab. Konli17 (talk) 05:15, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Ottoman name for Ayn al-Arab was Arab pinar. The change to Kobani was purely political. Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 18:55, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support move.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 17:48, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OPPOSE. The official name and common name is Al-Malikiyah. Having a Kurdish majority now does not justify changing the name. This is like a Mexican relative majority in California today deciding to change the name of the state to something else. Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 18:35, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Cengizsogutlu: You have shown interest in this article. Please see this discussion here! Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 18:38, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

well, nice you enter the discussion Amr Ibn Al Kulthoum. Al Malikya was an Arab army officer and is therefore remembered with the name. Do you support the Arabization policies denying the Kurdish/Assyrian past and presence? I don't. And in California (Los Angeles, San Francisco), nor Nevada (Las Vegas) and Florida (all Spanish words and names), they don't deny the Spanish/Mexican past. So your argument seems a little weak. But let's discuss.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:00, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Whether you like it or not, it's not up to WP (or yourself) in this case, to decide which name to use! There is an official name and we have to stick with it. If a future government of Syria decides to revert back to the Syriac name (Derik), then I am all for it. You may want to read this French article about how Kurds came to this area from Turkey during the French occupation of Syria. Amr ibn Kulthoumعمرو بن كلثوم (talk) 19:07, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The city is part of the republic of Syria, the only entity internationally recognized, not the AANES. The kurdish name should be mentioned, but its the official name that should be the main title.--Attar-Aram syria (talk) 20:43, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]