Talk:Europe
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Q1: Are Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia and Cyprus really in Europe?
A: As definitions of Europe vary, this article attempts to follow Wikipedia's Neutral point of view policy. That means covering the view that they are in Europe, as well as the view that they are not.
The issue has been raised repeatedly here, extensively in 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, and briefly mentioned in many other discussions. |
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Economy of Europe
I think this would be in the economy section: Europe has a long history as the world's richest and most productive part of the world. At the time of Christ's birth is estimated western European output per capita was approximately 30% higher than the world average. Year 1500 had this advantage increased to 40%.[1] After the development of science and the Industrial Revolution in Europe grew its lead quickly, in 1700 produced an average European almost 70% more than world's average population, and in 1850 was taken over the entire 150%. Around the year 1900 was Western Europe's leading role as the world's most productive area has been taken over by the former European colony of the United States, but Europe has continued to belong to the world's richest, most productive and knowledge-producing regions.[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.103.205.2 (talk • contribs) 12 January 2011
References
- ^ a b Madisson, Angus (2009). [http://www.ggdc.net/maddison/Historical_Statistics/horizontal-file_09-2008.xls Statistics on World Population, GDP and Per Capita GDP, 1-2006 AD].
Chinese Name Change
I deleted the following sentence from this page:
- which is an abbreviation of the transliterated name Ōuluóbā zhōu (歐羅巴洲)
I did this because, I have never heard this term though I am a speaker of Chinese. I asked some native Chinese speakers, and they also had never heard this term. I have found any research indicating that the term 欧洲 is an abbreviation of 欧罗巴州, as the deleted sentence suggests, though 欧罗巴 is direct transliteration of the word Europe into Chinese. The word was used on the Chinese Language Wikipedia page refers to 欧罗巴 only as a transliteration for the Greek word "Europa." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Agenbite (talk • contribs) 27 January 2012
Disagreement to the above chage
I do not agree with the deletion of the following sentence from this page.
- which is an abbreviation of the transliterated name Ōuluóbā zhōu (歐羅巴洲)
Although Ōuluóbā zhōu (歐羅巴洲) is rarely used in Chinese speaking context, the more commonly used term Ōuzhōu (歐洲/欧洲) is unarguably an abbreviation of Ōuluóbā zhōu (歐羅巴洲). By deleting the sentence from this article, English readers will not be able to understand the phonetic connection between Ōuzhōu and Europa.
Moreover, the word zhōu (洲) actually means "continent". So Ōuluóbā zhōu literally means "Europa Continent". To put Ōuzhōu and Europa side by side, is an inaccurate comparison, since zhōu has nothing to do with the pronunciation of Europa.
Therefore, I strongly recommend adding the sentence back to this article, so that the content will make more sense to English readers.
--Cough]] [[zh:user talk:cough|Talk (talk) 08:06, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
The image
Isn't that Europe image a bit big?
Change native spelling (transliteration) Ukrajina → Ukrayina
As native, I would like to declare that "Ukrayina" sounds closer to national variation rather than "Ukrajina".
Finland's area
Finland's area is 338 424 km^2 not 336 593 km^2. Kaapo-kissa (talk) 10:44, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2020
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My edit request is referring to 1) changing of the text in one sentence and 2) adding one sentence in the text.
Article "Europe", title: 3 History, sub-title 3.1: Prehistory, second paragraph 1a) Please change the year "4500" into "5500" in the following sentence: "Between 4500 and 3000 BC, these central European neolithic cultures developed further to the west and the north, transmitting newly acquired skills in producing copper artifacts". The reason is that the first evidence of extractive metallurgy (smelting) is dating from the 5th and 6th millennia BC, [1] and has been found at archaeological sites in Majdanpek, Jarmovac near Priboj and Pločnik, in present-day Serbia. To date, the earliest evidence of copper smelting is found at the Belovode site near Plocnik.[2] This site produced a copper axe from 5500 BC, belonging to the Vinča culture. [3]
Article "Europe", title: 3 History, sub-title 3.1: Prehistory, second paragraph 1b) In the same sentence, please change "central European" into "south-east European" because the first metallurgy was developed in the Vinča Culture which was located in the south-east Europe and not in central Europe.
Article "Europe", title: 3 History, sub-title 3.1: Prehistory, second paragraph 2) Please add the following sentence in the place right after the sentence that I already mentioned above: "The first evidence of copper metallurgy in the world was found in present-day Serbia, where a coper axe dating from 5500 BC was found, belonging to the Vinča Culture." Feel free to use sources for this sentence mentioned above in the text.
[1] H.I. Haiko, V.S. Biletskyi. First metals discovery and development the sacral component phenomenon. // Theoretical and Practical Solutions of Mineral [2] Resources Mining // A Balkema Book, London, 2015, р. 227-233.
Radivojević, Miljana; Rehren, Thilo; Pernicka, Ernst; Šljivar, Dušan; Brauns, Michael; Borić, Dušan (2010). "On the origins of extractive metallurgy: New evidence from Europe". Journal of Archaeological Science. 37 (11): 2775. doi:10.1016/j.jas.2010.06.012.
[3] Neolithic Vinca was a metallurgical culture Archived 19 September 2017 at the Wayback Machine Stonepages from news sources November 2007
Please refer to the already existing WIki article about metallurgy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallurgy
Thank you. LovingFacts (talk) 18:40, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
- Not done for now: Of the three references provided, the first is not a peer-reviewed or published paper, for the second and third I can only access the abstracts, but in both cases dates of 7.000 ago (so 5000 BCE) are cited. Regarding the other changes to the article please make precise X to Y changes and include the specific references for the Y change. Please reactivate the request once that is done. Thank you. Goldsztajn (talk) 19:12, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 1000
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2001:7D0:4740:1080:16B:69A5:2479:D4AE (talk) 12:43, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:48, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
World Health Organisation
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please change ((World Health Organisation)) to ((World Health Organization)) 2601:541:4500:1760:C4A5:F15E:B284:E037 (talk) 17:56, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Done! GoingBatty (talk) 19:55, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
Most common languages
Turkish language has at least 15 million native speakers in Europe. It is more than the number of Greek speakers. It should be mentioned in the infobox under Most common first languages:.
Requesting opinion on a page move request.
Hello,
@ Talk:Aurat (disambiguation)#Requested_move_11_May_2020 is taking place about article relating to women of mainly of Asian origin. In Past 2 days only two opinions are received and more opinions will be preferable. Although topic is more related to women and Asia I am making request here as part of neutrality in making such request. Thanks for your participation in discussion.
Bookku (talk) 11:47, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
20th Century, Colonisation map figure
There is an issue with this image as it appears now. Belgium in Europe itself is shown in the color for the Netherlands, not the one for Belgium. BSVulturis (talk) 15:12, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hilarious. I've edited it. CMD (talk) 16:36, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
the first map
Why aren't Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia located inside Europe in the first map of the article? Aminabzz (talk) 20:43, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- That map does not highlight countries, it highlights the usual geographical area. CMD (talk) 03:41, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Review request: Czech republic's coat of arms
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Coat_of_arms_of_the_Czech_Republic.svg) While the lion alone is not incorrect, I think this one is better suiting, since the lion alone is lesser coat of arms. Kr3bm4 (talk) 12:47, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Should part of Kazakhstan be included in Europe?
The general consensus overall is that Kazakhstan is not in Europe, not remotely. I do understand that the part in Kazakhstan highlighted is in between the Ural river, but it seems incorrect regardless. I found it strange.
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