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Buzzards-Watch Me Work

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For archived investigations, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Buzzards-Watch Me Work/Archive.



21 July 2020

– A checkuser has completed a check on relevant users in this case, and it is now awaiting administration and close.

Suspected sockpuppets


Evidence (i) In May 2020, the sockmaster was blocked, along with a sockpuppet. Two weeks later, the editor Philotimo made their first edit. (ii) Philotimo has in a short time already overlapped with the sockmaster and puppets[1]. (iii) The overlap on the page of Daniel Gade is pretty much the smoking gun evidence, as it's a page with few edits and the overwhelming share of them this year have been by either Philotimo or confirmed socks/master[2]. (iv) Edit summaries look similar[3][4][5]. See for example the use of the word "flow"[6][7][8][9], which is not exactly a common edit summary. I believe this evidence warrants a check. If shown to be another sockpuppet, I'm curious what additional actions could be taken: it seems to clearly be the case this is a long-term abusive account. I also strongly suspect WP:PAID editing, given the types of edits undertaken. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 20:37, 21 July 2020 (UTC) Snooganssnoogans (talk) 20:37, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

I personally find this ridiculous as edit behavior, edit overlap, and yes edit descriptions are quite different (besides apparently incorporating flow in different ways lol). I don’t see grounds for this. I’m not the same person, and I’m extremely confident that any check will prove it. I travel for work, but I doubt we've got any location overlap. I've got nothing to hide, and I'm fine privately identifying because the idea of paid editing is repulsive to me; my employment isn't remotely tied to WP:NPOV disputes. Philotimo (talk) 22:40, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ST47: I’m not him. We do know each other though and have talked in the past about Wikipedia, but we live in different places and this account is entirely me (it should be obviously with IP addresses, user agents, etc. I’m not sure how we’re supposedly tied together unless its company commuters but mine’s now got inscription on it. I mean we’re even in different states right now). We’ve got a couple of common interests with regards to topics but that’s it. I’ve not been involved with any other accounts besides this one. Just look at the differences between us, I’ve literally stopped a potential edit war from ensuring, he basically did WP:NPOV and had a heated administrators notice board debate which lead to his blocks. I should also note, he appeared to string someone into a Wikipedia discussion in the past as noted in his first sock investigation. I’ve also done extensive vandalism fighting unlike him. Blocks are supposed to not be punitive and they’re imposed to protect the project. How is blocking me, judged on my 100s of edits, actually making this project stronger? I've followed every rule I know on here. I’m willing to privately identify my information. Would I be blocked even if I got him to privately send in IDs to confirm? Is there anyway I can prove my case? I'm at a loss for even being able to be tied to him directly online. If blocked, I'd be unable to even qualify for getting unblocked after six months unless I claim I'm him and own his actions. I'm not sure what to do. Philotimo (talk) 01:36, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

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